I love how it is a twist on other robot zombies Other robots look like animals but are actually robots inside The Clockwork Zombie looks like a robot but is actually an animal inside
I think it's more of a "reverse clickbait warranty." The negativity is qualified and reasoned, and you need to actually watch the video and hear the reasoning, which reduces the likelihood it will be taken out of context. Creeps has recognized that they have an significant audience, and is taking care to ensure nobody gets overly influenced to dislike something by just the thumbnail.
Its curious because so far (20 minutes in) is one of the first Creeps videos im starting to disagree with. I may make an edit once I watch it all , maybe. So, edit; one thing I specially disagree IS on the take that overall is a bad thing to make the world overwhelming and/or too niche. Now, I may imagine why they this, and its because power creep, funnily enough; As this is probably the last world you may gonna play for Reflourished, making It on a diferent take as other worlds is actually a good thing for me. Adding that this world It make me to use plants that otherwise I wouldn't think I would use It. Power Creep also explains tanky zombies. Lets be completely honest here; PvZ2 always had these trait integranted on It design maybe to incentivice some actions -microtransactions- or maybe to always use the newer plants. So having an strong treat isn't as weird as It may sounds. Personally, I enjoy strong treats mini Boss like zombies that acts diferent as Gargantuars, and mechanic zombie seems a good idea on general. Most plants does a very good job as well if you know how to use them. I Saw here peanut as a very reliable early game plant and combined with Pumpkin It was a very powerful defense. Same I could say about other plants (this world clearly incentivices Pumpkin imo) Otherwise, I actually agree with this video, I could imagine where Creeps came from, is a very mechanical person on that regard for what I often see from his videos, but I actually would put SA much higher and why not, HM as well on that funni tier list. Maybe because I also give credit on other things such as style and music, and most of players as well (NMT being a main favorite makes me think so) so its no wonder why so many people enjoyed as much as me. Maybe because I overall enjoy more Reflourished, but opinions are good to differ to not make world monotone, eh?
@@JoseViktor4099 Hey, that's good! In the end, what people find fun is objective. Game Design isn't an exact science. Disagreement is totally valid, people with followings just have to be a little more careful with how they express their opinions.
@@jacksongreen4107 Indeed. As always , I think that is good for a person to express a sincere opinion that, while careful, doesn't need to appeal the masses,while the people who hear It to consider that opinion, instead of straight Up disagreeing or worshiping It, to think about It and make their own conclusions.
Whaaaat? I love the sound effects of gentleman zombie. He’s hilarious. It’s not like this hasn’t been done before. The pirate zombie makes exclusive words that no other zombie makes.
I agree! I really enjoy the Gentlemen Zombie’s lines. They are very fun and give the zombie a whole lot of personality. I don’t care what Creeps thinks of it, it brings me a lot of joy
I dont think people realize that during the production of Steam Ages in Reflourished, the actual steam ages boss in the Chinese version hasn't realeased yet, and by the time that the steam ages pt. 2 update was realeased in reflourished, the boss that the mod team made was almost completely identical to what the chinese version had, which is insane because it goes to show that the mod team could literally run their own game at this point
The devs said on Discord that the first concepts of the Chinese Steam Ages boss were already revealed during RFL Steam Ages’ development. The Steam Ages boss in RFL is their own take based on that first concept, while 2C also develops another Zombot design over time. Admittedly the Chinese version did way better on the latest Steam Ages Zombot’s visual design, but the gameplay experience in RFL is still way better than 2C nonetheless.
@@pora5000I wonder, will the Reflourished team update the Steam Ages boss so that it's closer to the Chinese version? I don't like how it just has 2 attacks and one of them is a barely different version of the Zombot Plank Walker's Imp attack.
It's interesting to see you think Holiday Mashup is a bad world, I thought it was fine at worst and pretty fun at best. It feels like you're an extremely hardcore tower defense fan that knows the strengths and weaknesses of the genre in and out, which is great in isolation, but maybe not a great fit for analysing a game mod that's mostly very casual. Nevertheless I really love your videos and how insightful they are and this is no exception.
2:14 I do remember that modern day 49 of reflourished is the only level where i lagged when i was choosing the plants due to the sheer number of zombies present on the preview screen and it took me ages to choose my setup 😂
felt bad for stealing the first comment so here's an actual tidbit that Creeps forgot: Mechanic is doubly dangerous because of how he is coded. the game will spawn a new wave of zombies if the previous wave is damaged enough, usually. with Mechanic it is different: his HP DOES NOT count for this process. so you can kill Mechanic first and the next wave won't be triggered. however, because Mechanic has so much HP, it's far more common that you will hit other zombies first, and now the next wave is triggered while you have a 3k HP zombie spawner to deal with. and if said next wave has another Mechanic... you can be combo'd to death easily. out of all the traits Mechanic has, this is what makes him such a pain to deal with.
@@DTMP Ah, I see, so I suppose It shares Code with the LC Imp. Pd: Btw hats off for your mod, I haven't played the new release yet, but It looks amazing Indeed.
I love the atmosphere of this world. I just find it so cool to have a time period about innovative, steam-based inventions. The sounds of metal clangs and train whistles, along with the flying air balloon zombie and the clockwork zombie give off this air that the world has been mechanized in a completely unique way. Also, the gentlemen zombies are really funny saying stuff like "blimey" and wanting their tea.
my only major criticism for this world is that the clockwork machines and clockwork zombies are too strong (imo) but other than that i think it's an amazing world.
@emilydavidson8844 yes but it's really difficult to keep magnet shroom alive at the front and manholes at the back and can only take one at a time which can be way too long considering how much a level can use them
@emilydavidson8844 pumpkin its quite expensive (for a wall) and has a long recharge, it also takes 2 seed slots to use magnet and pumpkin which isnt worth it and specials like barrel zombies and coal zombies completely nullify pumpkin as well
I thought the tanky zombies were what made pt2 steam ages great to be honest. When every zombie doesn't die in 3 seconds, you actually have to strategise your defence against them. Strong specials are fun to deal with. Plus you can actually make tough levels that don't rely on ridiculous amounts of rush since this is vanilla pacing we're talking about.
It helps that there is a relatively less tanky special that exploits this tankiness but when you add that tankiness and gargs which can take 2 instas and live ish it becomes a bit of a slog especially when you are just reusing similar builds over and over again.
transparent text transcript at 29:45 (text is messy, but is the onscreen text) " i was always bad with probability but i'm pretty sure it would be more accurately be some nonsense like 9s because of nonsense i do not remember maths. get good at it. "
Reflourished as a whole is one of my favorite mods. They already did an excelent job with Holiday Mashup (the one who decided to have mini-bosses along some levels deserve a -raise- kiss) so it wouldn't surprise me that they took it to make this controversial world , which fun fact one of the developers made a famous video about it and made it so much... Better? Damn and its impresive because it this world was released by Popcap this would be one of the best worlds in the game, no question. Really talks wonders about the skill of PvZ modding community.
I think the reason inventor zombie can be healed by repair imp is that the balloon is mechanical and they want the balloon to be healed however since inventor is the same zombie balloon or not the game also heals inventor without the balloon
he explained what happened in the video: Inventor zombie is considered a mechanical zombie (because of the balloon, obviously), but the Balloon itself counts as armor, which the repair imp CAN'T heal. That means the balloon isn't getting healed, just the inventor
Yeah The problem is that, internally, the only way to do it properly would be to turn Inventor from Balloon into Jetpack As in, she can't fall to the ground But that would just make her even more useless But I don't know why she was included in the first place if they knew that this was a problem
I love how on the gargantuar note next to the paper that talks about requiring the zombies to take an extra turn at the factory (or something like that) theres a paper looking for an aerodinamic engineer (the inventor) and skilled mechanic (steam mechanic) before they appear on the adventure
Do you think that the gimmick would've been less of an issue if you unlocked pumpkin instead of peanut, and pumpkin worked like a lily pad where it would let you plant non-wall plants onto sewers if they're plugged up by pumpkin?
Imo maybe, i dont agree with the issue of unlocking pumpkin naturally. Gems are easy to get and you can buy lots of gemium plant without the time limited events. But i agree that pumpkin should act like a lily pad for manholes.
A bit late to this party, but in the video the Reflourished Devs made reacting to this video, they mention that this was actually an idea they considered in development, but scrapped because of hardcoding limitations. It wasn't possible to make Pumpkin plantable on every plant and have him change the properties of sewers at the same time. Something to do with how all vine plants are coded.
Don't let children viewers' stupidity control the integrity and genuineness of your content. If you think there is a problem in something that you wanna talk about, talk about it.
Design-wise, the mechanic is one of the best zombies ever made for pvz, mod or otherwise. I like to think that his model is what Nigel Blimpbottom would look like if he was in the games.
I love this world, but I have some big problems with it still. You can't plant non-instants on the tiles that the mechanic takes up, which is annoying if you want to plant a spike weed and a lot of the right most tiles are already being occupied by the manholes. Basically, when the mechanic shows up, the two rightmost lanes are basically all dead tiles aside for instants. The fact that the mechanic can't be defeated with a lawnmower is really, really dumb in my opinion because being one of the most threatening zombies that can't be destroyed by the lawnmower makes him overpowered to the point where he is probably the most overpowered zombie in the game. This is more a recurring problem with the game in general, but I wish that if a zombie carries something, that it isn't countered by burning and electric plants. That just feels like an awkward counter because it makes no logical sense that a fossil from Jurastic Marsh or a metal machine can get burned up, especially when no animation shows the object getting burned. It just makes the counter of magnet shroom less optimal than something that makes less sense like a fire pea.
This is a really nice summary on your thoughts on Steam Ages (and sometimes of Reflourished in general), it's paced very well and goes into depth on the nice pros and admittedly pretty big cons of the new part of Steam Ages. Seeing this video has definitely made me have some hope for the future of this mod, and I might actually decide to pick it up again if it continues to trend to a good direction. I do still think that your Power Creep video is the best video you've done so far but this video was no slouch either, since the upload schedule has slowed down, I can only hope to see better and better content on its way. (also i may start subtitling videos for you again bc damn that intro was hard to understand at points)
Although I don't agree with Creeps on everything, he should be the lead level designer of PvZ3. He clearly has way more passion about PvZ level design that probably everyone else working on that game and would definitely make better choices than them.
Im glad they added plenty more special zombies to this world, as the ACTUAL steam ages onlu had 3 special zombies. (Gentleman, furnace, and coal miner)
I've been playing Reflourished for a few days now, and I haven't had this much fun with a PvZ tower defense in years. It's genuinely an amazing mod in my opinion.
this was a really awesome video and it’s rlly cool that you can see how much effort you put into this! i would love to see more comprehensive reviews of mods like this video! that would be awesome if you wanna pursue this stuff more. (but i get if you wouldn’t bc it’s time consuming)
I wonder if a reverse version of Mechanic would be possible to create, where something absorbs other zombies until it reaches capacity and makes one big one
I would love a second Alterverze x Reflourished crossover just so I can experience Steam Ages part 2 in Alterverze. Also, this video didn't spoil my childhood innocence. You absolute scammer, Creeps.
Plant idea: Napalm Tree Sun: 175 Usage: Single-use, instant When planted, it blows up, dealing 1 insta-kill of damage in a 3x3 area and coating said area in fire -the fire lasts 30 seconds and deals 1.25x pea damage every 1.15 seconds -you can plant plants on the affected area while the fire is there, but unless they are fire-based (like snapdragon or fire pea), they will also take damage -if affected area includes water, the affected water tiles will boil instead of having fire on them -explorers and their varients will be reignited upon entering the area -all damage dealt via this plant (by it's explosion or otherwise) is fire damage -fire will warm plants nearby and set tumbleweeds on fire Probably needs balance, what do you think?
To be fair, your video didn't sour that mod's reputation. That dev who shall not be named was already doing a good job with that before they got exposed for all the vile stuff they did. :v
@@purple_the_guy_who_makes_g8633Be racist, narcissist and defend a ped* at one point. I'm sure there are many videos on RUclips about it that you can look up
@@purple_the_guy_who_makes_g8633Did a lot of things. In one sentence, it did the things you might expect when someone becomes blind of influence. And hate for Vietnamese people as well.
@@purple_the_guy_who_makes_g8633 This is a quote for a RUclips comment of his responding for some accusations "... and am I racist? yes, I f**king h*te v**tnamese. take that as whatever you think ..." I tried to see if this was out of context, but seems that is not. Erm.. I dont know what to say about It honestly. I have to censor this multiples times now...
@@purple_the_guy_who_makes_g8633 This is a quote for a RUclips comment of his responding for some accusations "... and am I r*cist? yes, I f**king h*te v**tnamese. take that as whatever you think ..." I tried to see if this was out of context, but seems that is not. Erm.. I dont know what to say about It honestly. I have to censor this multiples times now...
Part 2 was underwhelming for me. While all the plant and zombie designs are good, and Maypop Mechanic is easily my favourite new plant in the mod (it's basically Bowling Bulb done right), a lot of the levels just consisted of Mechanic spam, which I'm pretty sure goes against the mod's desire not to spam tanky zombies, and their health is way too high. I did enjoy some levels (notably the Locked & Loaded levels, the 'Don't lose more than X' and the boss was decent too), but found the two Reverse Engineering levels to be ludicrously hard to the point they took the fun out of an interesting Brain Buster. Edit: BRUH no way are you slandering Maypop when you defend Bowling Bulb who is probably one of the top 3 worst plants in the mod
mate bowling bulb is really good, just use 4 or more instant and stalling plants and you will see how busted he is, personally i use guac, squash, cherry/grape, and stunion
@@primalpeashooter literally anything is good when using that many instants and stallers. BB is only decent for Plant Food or when first planted, his aqua bulb is pathetically weak
Magnet is very difficult to keep alive in the frontlines of this world. I still use it, but I get not using it cuz it can be annoying. Also he used it several times, one of which at 28:55
I know creeps is saying steam ages, but all I'm hearing is "c mages" (sometimes "c majers") think it's because I the "t" in ste isn't being said really good video disregarding that
Hey Creeps, can you make your next plant specific "Here's Why" video on Spore Shroom? I don't care in what way, I just think it is a super interesting plant
I bet nobody will see this comment, but full grown ultomato hard counters mechanic. Although if you're only able to get 1 max one due to having a bad economy you can micro it with escape roots, saved me a lot of pain on the later levels
Question about 38:30, what makes Sling Pea wrong here? Is it the gems? Because I feel like by the time you get to steam ages you can afford most gem plants, so I might be missing something.
IDK if it's true, but a long time ago 2016-2019 IDK I saw extra levels after level 25 in Ancient Egypt etc. I beat Ancient Egypt's bonus levels (maybe even Seven Seas's), but years later (When I came back and beat the game in 2021), I never saw them again. I'm sure it was vanilla, because I was a kid who didn't even understand English back then, and I played on a tablet. Interestingly, when I came back at the end of 2023, I saw some bonus levels for each world in the quests/challenges place (I don't remember) for like 80 extra diamonds, and I remembered, that those were the bonus levels. So was that in vanilla too? And if yes, why they removed those bonus levels?
The bonus levels (also known as expansion levels) were extremelly hard, were planned to be a post-game for players that completed all worlds. However, since those levels were unlocked like normal levels, plenty of newcomers to the game thought they should beat them before moving on to the next worlds. Obiously, they couldn't and some quited the game. To avoid that, the levels were turned into temporal epic quests that appear from time to time to get gems. By the way, not all the worlds had expansion levels. Only Ancient Egypt, Pirate Seas, Wild West, Far Future, Jurasic Marsh and Modern Day had expansions.
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I love how clockwork zombie has a pufferfish in his head. No reason, it’s just there
Swimmy swimmy
As someone who knows why, my hint to you is "use the commadore"
sounds like an attempt to make a heart
I love how it is a twist on other robot zombies
Other robots look like animals but are actually robots inside
The Clockwork Zombie looks like a robot but is actually an animal inside
It might be a reference to how pufferfish toxins would create "zombies", essentially comatose people who'd wake back up in their grave
"I will not be as negative with mods anymore" Creeps when second half of the video walks in
Yeah; I lied.
I think it's more of a "reverse clickbait warranty." The negativity is qualified and reasoned, and you need to actually watch the video and hear the reasoning, which reduces the likelihood it will be taken out of context. Creeps has recognized that they have an significant audience, and is taking care to ensure nobody gets overly influenced to dislike something by just the thumbnail.
Its curious because so far (20 minutes in) is one of the first Creeps videos im starting to disagree with.
I may make an edit once I watch it all , maybe.
So, edit; one thing I specially disagree IS on the take that overall is a bad thing to make the world overwhelming and/or too niche.
Now, I may imagine why they this, and its because power creep, funnily enough;
As this is probably the last world you may gonna play for Reflourished, making It on a diferent take as other worlds is actually a good thing for me. Adding that this world It make me to use plants that otherwise I wouldn't think I would use It.
Power Creep also explains tanky zombies. Lets be completely honest here; PvZ2 always had these trait integranted on It design maybe to incentivice some actions -microtransactions- or maybe to always use the newer plants.
So having an strong treat isn't as weird as It may sounds. Personally, I enjoy strong treats mini Boss like zombies that acts diferent as Gargantuars, and mechanic zombie seems a good idea on general. Most plants does a very good job as well if you know how to use them. I Saw here peanut as a very reliable early game plant and combined with Pumpkin It was a very powerful defense. Same I could say about other plants (this world clearly incentivices Pumpkin imo)
Otherwise, I actually agree with this video, I could imagine where Creeps came from, is a very mechanical person on that regard for what I often see from his videos, but I actually would put SA much higher and why not, HM as well on that funni tier list.
Maybe because I also give credit on other things such as style and music, and most of players as well (NMT being a main favorite makes me think so) so its no wonder why so many people enjoyed as much as me.
Maybe because I overall enjoy more Reflourished, but opinions are good to differ to not make world monotone, eh?
@@JoseViktor4099 Hey, that's good! In the end, what people find fun is objective. Game Design isn't an exact science. Disagreement is totally valid, people with followings just have to be a little more careful with how they express their opinions.
@@jacksongreen4107 Indeed. As always , I think that is good for a person to express a sincere opinion that, while careful, doesn't need to appeal the masses,while the people who hear It to consider that opinion, instead of straight Up disagreeing or worshiping It, to think about It and make their own conclusions.
Whaaaat? I love the sound effects of gentleman zombie. He’s hilarious. It’s not like this hasn’t been done before. The pirate zombie makes exclusive words that no other zombie makes.
I fancy a cuppa
"brains on toast" nearly killed me
"braaaaaains ahoyyyyy"
"braaaainssssss, guvnaaa"
I agree! I really enjoy the Gentlemen Zombie’s lines. They are very fun and give the zombie a whole lot of personality. I don’t care what Creeps thinks of it, it brings me a lot of joy
SCURVY BRAINS
I dont think people realize that during the production of Steam Ages in Reflourished, the actual steam ages boss in the Chinese version hasn't realeased yet, and by the time that the steam ages pt. 2 update was realeased in reflourished, the boss that the mod team made was almost completely identical to what the chinese version had, which is insane because it goes to show that the mod team could literally run their own game at this point
The devs said on Discord that the first concepts of the Chinese Steam Ages boss were already revealed during RFL Steam Ages’ development. The Steam Ages boss in RFL is their own take based on that first concept, while 2C also develops another Zombot design over time. Admittedly the Chinese version did way better on the latest Steam Ages Zombot’s visual design, but the gameplay experience in RFL is still way better than 2C nonetheless.
@@pora5000I wonder, will the Reflourished team update the Steam Ages boss so that it's closer to the Chinese version? I don't like how it just has 2 attacks and one of them is a barely different version of the Zombot Plank Walker's Imp attack.
it’d be cool if the buckethead’s candle went out when it’s been chilled
it wouldn’t have any practical impact, but it’d be a neat detail
Hardcode
@@agentmanface6255 newspaper
@@hothdog Doesn’t work like that
@@agentmanface6255Porter Gargantuar
@@BearyQueNub that doesn’t go out when it’s chilled
It's interesting to see you think Holiday Mashup is a bad world, I thought it was fine at worst and pretty fun at best.
It feels like you're an extremely hardcore tower defense fan that knows the strengths and weaknesses of the genre in and out, which is great in isolation, but maybe not a great fit for analysing a game mod that's mostly very casual.
Nevertheless I really love your videos and how insightful they are and this is no exception.
Wait didn't Timmy die? Clearly, the only way for this to make sense is if Timmy is actually canonically Jesus reincarnate.
Mo killed him
Yes.
Or hes secretly a zombie
MO NOT AGAIN
Intensive Carrot Carl used his favorite plant to revive him, duh.
Steam Ages if it was actually polished:
It is
@@porgnotfound3170They're referring to the Chinese version which is buggy and laggy
@@porgnotfound3170if you say that if someone plays chinese steam ages at 3am their phone will break people will believe
@iaminsideyourwalls2021 its not actually really buggy
the exploding furnace zombie:@@Idk_what_to_put_here
Gentleman: "Bloody plants."
Creeps: "time to turn off sound effects"
2:14 I do remember that modern day 49 of reflourished is the only level where i lagged when i was choosing the plants due to the sheer number of zombies present on the preview screen and it took me ages to choose my setup 😂
I genuinely have no idea what creeps is saying here 0:12
me neither
This is what PVZ 2 does to a man
he says : " fun and exciting exercise "
felt bad for stealing the first comment so here's an actual tidbit that Creeps forgot:
Mechanic is doubly dangerous because of how he is coded. the game will spawn a new wave of zombies if the previous wave is damaged enough, usually. with Mechanic it is different: his HP DOES NOT count for this process. so you can kill Mechanic first and the next wave won't be triggered. however, because Mechanic has so much HP, it's far more common that you will hit other zombies first, and now the next wave is triggered while you have a 3k HP zombie spawner to deal with. and if said next wave has another Mechanic... you can be combo'd to death easily. out of all the traits Mechanic has, this is what makes him such a pain to deal with.
Huh, and Clockwork Zombies work diferent? Rather is a similar thing?
@@JoseViktor4099since Clockwork is spawned from Mechanic, they don't count towards wave progression either.
@@DTMP Ah, I see, so I suppose It shares Code with the LC Imp.
Pd: Btw hats off for your mod, I haven't played the new release yet, but It looks amazing Indeed.
I love the atmosphere of this world. I just find it so cool to have a time period about innovative, steam-based inventions. The sounds of metal clangs and train whistles, along with the flying air balloon zombie and the clockwork zombie give off this air that the world has been mechanized in a completely unique way. Also, the gentlemen zombies are really funny saying stuff like "blimey" and wanting their tea.
MD-49 is my favorite level in RFL. This level IS the Ultimate Battle. Everyone is after you!
Same, Modern Day-Day 49 is just pure chaos and I love it.
I love that penultimate level (before zomboss 2.0 fight) of each world is pure chaos
No strategy, just go full gun blazing
@@diputsnoob3815 The finale before the boss fights in PVZ2 Reflourished are good because it's the calm before the storm.
You forgot to mention how mechanic is impervious to lawnmowers
He's WHAT?
never had to google a word from a youtube comment before
my only major criticism for this world is that the clockwork machines and clockwork zombies are too strong (imo) but other than that i think it's an amazing world.
Magnet can remove the headgear
@emilydavidson8844 yes but it's really difficult to keep magnet shroom alive at the front and manholes at the back and can only take one at a time which can be way too long considering how much a level can use them
@@primalpeashooter pumpkin
@emilydavidson8844 pumpkin its quite expensive (for a wall) and has a long recharge, it also takes 2 seed slots to use magnet and pumpkin which isnt worth it and specials like barrel zombies and coal zombies completely nullify pumpkin as well
@@primalpeashooter Pumpkin underrated. Carried me for all Steam Ages.
I thought the tanky zombies were what made pt2 steam ages great to be honest.
When every zombie doesn't die in 3 seconds, you actually have to strategise your defence against them. Strong specials are fun to deal with. Plus you can actually make tough levels that don't rely on ridiculous amounts of rush since this is vanilla pacing we're talking about.
The problem is that some High HP zombies is sometimes spam spam spam, or just have annoying abilities on top of their bulk
It helps that there is a relatively less tanky special that exploits this tankiness but when you add that tankiness and gargs which can take 2 instas and live ish it becomes a bit of a slog especially when you are just reusing similar builds over and over again.
@@victory8928cough cough far future having 3 tanky zombies and a shield cough
transparent text transcript at 29:45 (text is messy, but is the onscreen text)
"
i was always bad with probability but
i'm pretty sure it would be more
accurately be some nonsense like 9s
because of nonsense i do not
remember maths. get good at it.
"
Reflourished as a whole is one of my favorite mods. They already did an excelent job with Holiday Mashup (the one who decided to have mini-bosses along some levels deserve a -raise- kiss) so it wouldn't surprise me that they took it to make this controversial world , which fun fact one of the developers made a famous video about it and made it so much... Better?
Damn and its impresive because it this world was released by Popcap this would be one of the best worlds in the game, no question.
Really talks wonders about the skill of PvZ modding community.
I think the reason inventor zombie can be healed by repair imp is that the balloon is mechanical and they want the balloon to be healed however since inventor is the same zombie balloon or not the game also heals inventor without the balloon
he explained what happened in the video: Inventor zombie is considered a mechanical zombie (because of the balloon, obviously), but the Balloon itself counts as armor, which the repair imp CAN'T heal. That means the balloon isn't getting healed, just the inventor
@@eldritch_whispers1654insert joke about objectifying women
@@eldritch_whispers1654 thanks, I missed that while watching the video
Yeah
The problem is that, internally, the only way to do it properly would be to turn Inventor from Balloon into Jetpack
As in, she can't fall to the ground
But that would just make her even more useless
But I don't know why she was included in the first place if they knew that this was a problem
@@eldritch_whispers1654the mod developers knew this when they andded her to the healing list.
WTF??? but didn't Little Timmy died already??? The creepsish lore is messed up....
intensive carrot revived him its fine
Little Timmy revived himself to watch his favorite RUclipsr that he has a very parasocial relationship with
Maybe this a prequel to his death
little timmy multiplied years ago and creeps never mentioned it
I love how on the gargantuar note next to the paper that talks about requiring the zombies to take an extra turn at the factory (or something like that) theres a paper looking for an aerodinamic engineer (the inventor) and skilled mechanic (steam mechanic) before they appear on the adventure
Do you think that the gimmick would've been less of an issue if you unlocked pumpkin instead of peanut, and pumpkin worked like a lily pad where it would let you plant non-wall plants onto sewers if they're plugged up by pumpkin?
Imo maybe, i dont agree with the issue of unlocking pumpkin naturally. Gems are easy to get and you can buy lots of gemium plant without the time limited events.
But i agree that pumpkin should act like a lily pad for manholes.
Used pumpkin religiously in this world and I wish he was a world plant
It is understandable he'd counter the mechanics if given for free
Flat Shroom
A bit late to this party, but in the video the Reflourished Devs made reacting to this video, they mention that this was actually an idea they considered in development, but scrapped because of hardcoding limitations. It wasn't possible to make Pumpkin plantable on every plant and have him change the properties of sewers at the same time. Something to do with how all vine plants are coded.
so what we can all agree on for mechanic is simple: He's HIM
or in other notes. hes the face for rfl. and so doesn't get punishments for they action. they are the favorite child. in which was not reserved.
Don't let children viewers' stupidity control the integrity and genuineness of your content.
If you think there is a problem in something that you wanna talk about, talk about it.
47:05 *Hmmm, where else have I seen a level that has every special and "Don't lose X plants" that was bad? I almost can't remember*
the curse of the bwb day 28
petition for the next world in reflourished to also have the "don't lose x plants" objective and every special on day 28
Design-wise, the mechanic is one of the best zombies ever made for pvz, mod or otherwise. I like to think that his model is what Nigel Blimpbottom would look like if he was in the games.
My brain...hurts...trying to comprehend what you were saying in the intro...Good video though
I love this world, but I have some big problems with it still. You can't plant non-instants on the tiles that the mechanic takes up, which is annoying if you want to plant a spike weed and a lot of the right most tiles are already being occupied by the manholes. Basically, when the mechanic shows up, the two rightmost lanes are basically all dead tiles aside for instants. The fact that the mechanic can't be defeated with a lawnmower is really, really dumb in my opinion because being one of the most threatening zombies that can't be destroyed by the lawnmower makes him overpowered to the point where he is probably the most overpowered zombie in the game. This is more a recurring problem with the game in general, but I wish that if a zombie carries something, that it isn't countered by burning and electric plants. That just feels like an awkward counter because it makes no logical sense that a fossil from Jurastic Marsh or a metal machine can get burned up, especially when no animation shows the object getting burned. It just makes the counter of magnet shroom less optimal than something that makes less sense like a fire pea.
Mechanic is using the code of general zombies and it's hard coded
@@jdg6192 Yeah. I asked the Discord and they told me that. Makes sense.
This is a really nice summary on your thoughts on Steam Ages (and sometimes of Reflourished in general), it's paced very well and goes into depth on the nice pros and admittedly pretty big cons of the new part of Steam Ages. Seeing this video has definitely made me have some hope for the future of this mod, and I might actually decide to pick it up again if it continues to trend to a good direction. I do still think that your Power Creep video is the best video you've done so far but this video was no slouch either, since the upload schedule has slowed down, I can only hope to see better and better content on its way.
(also i may start subtitling videos for you again bc damn that intro was hard to understand at points)
Although I don't agree with Creeps on everything, he should be the lead level designer of PvZ3. He clearly has way more passion about PvZ level design that probably everyone else working on that game and would definitely make better choices than them.
Indeed, although Creeps has potential to do rather a masterpiece or Good Timing (dont let him touch Vasebreaker ever again)
@@JoseViktor4099 still better than PvZ3 vasebreaker
the reflourished team put so much effort into Mechanic Zombie and the Clockworks that they made sure you see it in Steamworks, even if it kills you
Im glad they added plenty more special zombies to this world, as the ACTUAL steam ages onlu had 3 special zombies. (Gentleman, furnace, and coal miner)
I've been playing Reflourished for a few days now, and I haven't had this much fun with a PvZ tower defense in years. It's genuinely an amazing mod in my opinion.
40:32 got a smooth bowling bulb to sun transition. You're welcome.
this was a really awesome video and it’s rlly cool that you can see how much effort you put into this! i would love to see more comprehensive reviews of mods like this video! that would be awesome if you wanna pursue this stuff more. (but i get if you wouldn’t bc it’s time consuming)
Let's hope future modders will learn from reflourished.
This aged good.. they did. abscension looks better then this shit.
@@imafailure Abscension lolllll
Please subtitles! I cant understand any of the intro
bowling bulb really pops off in this world and holiday mashup
I wonder if a reverse version of Mechanic would be possible to create, where something absorbs other zombies until it reaches capacity and makes one big one
So like, a mad scientist type zombie?
7:07 Song: Showdown! from the Undertale Yellow OST
Rare footage of Peanut being useful in PVZ
Especially due to it helping out the front from the back
Certainly an intro of all time lmao 👏
Aint nothin' good like a Creeps20 video with that OMORI OST
Let me just tell you something. A mod that continues the story of its predecessor and tries the proper mechanics is the best kind.
An hour long yapping session 🥱
This video is the definition of "I like this thing, here's why it sucks!"
This mod is f*cking awesome. It takes me back man
Pvz2 reflerished is one of my favorite mods alongside altverz and the new worlds can be fun and I am excited to see what's next.
9:11 female balloon zombie jumpscare
Bowling Bulb is actually insane in this world; would recommend if you struggle against Mechanics
Maypop is a flat out upgrade over BB
@@GNVS300If Bowling Bulb did not had a plamt food effect
I just completed Steam Ages, and I enjoyed it a lot. mainly the music, it's so good! also Citron is my beloved.
Could you do a video on lava guava? its honestly my favorite plant for some reason
"I don't want to paint mods in a negative light anymore, that's why I haven't made any videos about them since"
subtle roast
lol
He said like that
It`s not GREAT , its GEARt
4:48 "repair imp! Could you fix my dishwasher please?"
9:28 Primal sunflowers in a staircase
“It’s not enough, because it’s not supposed to be enough!”
2:02 what did he say here?
I would love a second Alterverze x Reflourished crossover just so I can experience Steam Ages part 2 in Alterverze.
Also, this video didn't spoil my childhood innocence. You absolute scammer, Creeps.
Plant idea: Napalm Tree
Sun: 175
Usage: Single-use, instant
When planted, it blows up, dealing 1 insta-kill of damage in a 3x3 area and coating said area in fire
-the fire lasts 30 seconds and deals 1.25x pea damage every 1.15 seconds
-you can plant plants on the affected area while the fire is there, but unless they are fire-based (like snapdragon or fire pea), they will also take damage
-if affected area includes water, the affected water tiles will boil instead of having fire on them
-explorers and their varients will be reignited upon entering the area
-all damage dealt via this plant (by it's explosion or otherwise) is fire damage
-fire will warm plants nearby and set tumbleweeds on fire
Probably needs balance, what do you think?
sounds just like cherry bomb 2: boogaloo edition
I think it would be better to make it light an entire row (not lane like jalapeno) instead of being a strictly better cherry bomb.
@@nightrider7036 do you mean column?
@@Johnny10-man yeah I knew, I just wanted to be clear about it. (Also haha responded to a month old comment)
No way Undertale Yellow music in the background I knew clicking on this video wasn't a mistake.
imagine if this world gets extra levels ,furnace zombie could spam from man holes
To be fair, your video didn't sour that mod's reputation.
That dev who shall not be named was already doing a good job with that before they got exposed for all the vile stuff they did. :v
@@purple_the_guy_who_makes_g8633Be racist, narcissist and defend a ped* at one point. I'm sure there are many videos on RUclips about it that you can look up
@purple_the_guy_who_makes_g8633 best thing I can tell you is look it up for yourself because it is not suitable for this comment section.
@@purple_the_guy_who_makes_g8633Did a lot of things. In one sentence, it did the things you might expect when someone becomes blind of influence. And hate for Vietnamese people as well.
@@purple_the_guy_who_makes_g8633 This is a quote for a RUclips comment of his responding for some accusations
"...
and am I racist? yes, I f**king h*te v**tnamese. take that as whatever you think
..."
I tried to see if this was out of context, but seems that is not.
Erm.. I dont know what to say about It honestly.
I have to censor this multiples times now...
@@purple_the_guy_who_makes_g8633 This is a quote for a RUclips comment of his responding for some accusations
"...
and am I r*cist? yes, I f**king h*te v**tnamese. take that as whatever you think
..."
I tried to see if this was out of context, but seems that is not.
Erm.. I dont know what to say about It honestly.
I have to censor this multiples times now...
8:58 Sunshrooms are E
Steam ages made by PVZ2C as most of the steam age plants this is just high quality
I heard Showdown theme in this video
Now i cant stop panicking about undertale yellow
Part 2 was underwhelming for me. While all the plant and zombie designs are good, and Maypop Mechanic is easily my favourite new plant in the mod (it's basically Bowling Bulb done right), a lot of the levels just consisted of Mechanic spam, which I'm pretty sure goes against the mod's desire not to spam tanky zombies, and their health is way too high. I did enjoy some levels (notably the Locked & Loaded levels, the 'Don't lose more than X' and the boss was decent too), but found the two Reverse Engineering levels to be ludicrously hard to the point they took the fun out of an interesting Brain Buster.
Edit: BRUH no way are you slandering Maypop when you defend Bowling Bulb who is probably one of the top 3 worst plants in the mod
Oh shit, just looked through newest comments and found the king!
@@RufioTheThird haha thanks!
skill issue
mate bowling bulb is really good, just use 4 or more instant and stalling plants and you will see how busted he is, personally i use guac, squash, cherry/grape, and stunion
@@primalpeashooter literally anything is good when using that many instants and stallers. BB is only decent for Plant Food or when first planted, his aqua bulb is pathetically weak
The fact he points out how many zombies are destroyed by Magnet Shroom and then he shows he never used any in the b-role
Magnet is very difficult to keep alive in the frontlines of this world. I still use it, but I get not using it cuz it can be annoying. Also he used it several times, one of which at 28:55
Mechanic took about 5 people to animate, including me
yeah that sounds about right
I've never heard of this mod! This world also seems really cool!
It really is! basically free to play PvZ2
@@chickenpotbiebro202oh the irony
I know creeps is saying steam ages, but all I'm hearing is "c mages" (sometimes "c majers")
think it's because I the "t" in ste isn't being said
really good video disregarding that
So is reflourished a “what if” of pvz2 or is there something new or exciting to existing worlds?
Yeah more levels in them it’s pretty cool mod
7:00 Undertale Yellow music, awesome!
This is the song "Undertale Yellow OST: 070 - Showdown!"
YOOO There are 3 more after this! But I just found out, he did write the names of them in the description already lol
here we are 6 months later and i call nonsense
Hey Creeps, can you make your next plant specific "Here's Why" video on Spore Shroom? I don't care in what way, I just think it is a super interesting plant
Esteemed colleagues it is the entirety of my pleasure to commemorate this video's long awaited release.
Every time you said "Steam Ages" I heard it as "C majors"
Just watching your video wondering if you upload, definitely didn't expect this!
I bet nobody will see this comment, but full grown ultomato hard counters mechanic. Although if you're only able to get 1 max one due to having a bad economy you can micro it with escape roots, saved me a lot of pain on the later levels
Please talk about the animations in pvz2 for some of the new elements or plants are severely cut down and choppy asf
That isnt smoke, its steam, steam from the steamed ages were having!mmmm steamed ages!
Is anyone else who hasnt played reflourished yet absolutely terrified of this world
Please more of these intros i think they are kinda funny
Question about 38:30, what makes Sling Pea wrong here? Is it the gems? Because I feel like by the time you get to steam ages you can afford most gem plants, so I might be missing something.
7:02 *Starlo intensifies*
C o w b o y n e r d
@@Fallen_Melon_Stardie
@@ThatBirdCreature no you
@@Fallen_Melon_Star dies
If Octo-Zombie or Wizard Zombie were in the same level of a mechanic than it would just be impossible.
52:37 Creeps turns into Pops from Regular Show
whats the ost sound like is it from another world?
14:15 is that an actual sound effect from the gentleman zombie or are you doing a joke i can't tell
It’s an actual sound effect.
bro is speaking xqc
who else keeps hearing "C majors"?
Casual song keys for hardcore PVZ fans
Who knew that The Mechanic is still one of the strongest and popular zombie in both PvZ 2 Reflourished and PvZ GW1-2…
I use shadow plant alot and the sewage doesn't affect me that much. Just a powered up chestnut can take cone head forever.
Babe wake up, creeps20 just uploaded a 1 hour video
14:14
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BLOODY PLANTS
🤣
15:37 is no one going to mention that he said repair imp twice when he could have said it once, I wonder why
IDK if it's true, but a long time ago 2016-2019 IDK I saw extra levels after level 25 in Ancient Egypt etc. I beat Ancient Egypt's bonus levels (maybe even Seven Seas's), but years later (When I came back and beat the game in 2021), I never saw them again. I'm sure it was vanilla, because I was a kid who didn't even understand English back then, and I played on a tablet. Interestingly, when I came back at the end of 2023, I saw some bonus levels for each world in the quests/challenges place (I don't remember) for like 80 extra diamonds, and I remembered, that those were the bonus levels. So was that in vanilla too? And if yes, why they removed those bonus levels?
The bonus levels (also known as expansion levels) were extremelly hard, were planned to be a post-game for players that completed all worlds. However, since those levels were unlocked like normal levels, plenty of newcomers to the game thought they should beat them before moving on to the next worlds. Obiously, they couldn't and some quited the game. To avoid that, the levels were turned into temporal epic quests that appear from time to time to get gems.
By the way, not all the worlds had expansion levels. Only Ancient Egypt, Pirate Seas, Wild West, Far Future, Jurasic Marsh and Modern Day had expansions.
Babe wake up creeps just uploaded a new video
That's me. He's talking about me