What is the Millennium in Scripture?

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  • @medzuslovjansky3075
    @medzuslovjansky3075 4 года назад +12

    Thank you pastor.
    This is actually super encouraging for me. I used to get too caught up in this eschatology stuff and was spending way too much time theorizing about how the end might happen within my lifetime and worrying about geopolitics. This is a real breath of fresh air

    • @danielfinn9460
      @danielfinn9460 4 года назад

      I'm hoping that Jesus does come again during my lifetime. I know that I am a sinner, and so I am not worthy to stand on the Day of Judgment. But I also know that I am prepared because my faith is in Jesus and the salvation He won for us. All who believe in Him will be declared innocent in the judgment.
      And theorizing about geopolitics won't worry you once you realize that the millenialists are teaching many false doctrines. For example, they teach a pre-tribulation rapture and a seven year tribulation. This teaching of the seven year tribulation packs all of the Biblical prophesies of woe and destruction into one seven-year time period. If that were true, then it would be very worrying. But this doctrine of seven years is found nowhere in Scripture. The simple truth is that things have been getting more difficult for Christians throughout history. The Biblical prophesies of woe have been coming true throughout the centuries. But Christ will come to put an end to the tribulation that believers will experience in the last days.
      Are we in those last days now? I don't know, but I hope so. If we aren't, then things will continue to get worse. I can see how things *could* get worse, but my hope is in the Word of Christ, who said that the days will be cut short for the sake of the elect (Matthew 24:22). But, whenever He comes, He will put an end to the Tribulation. As it says, "Immediately *after* the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory" (Matthew 24:29-30). He will put an end to the suffering being caused by the rulers of this dark world.
      And, if you read what He says after the passage I cited, you'll see that He is going to send His angels to gather the elect. That is the "rapture" that Paul is referring to in 1 Thessalonians 4:17. There will be no pre-tribulation rapture. The millenialists just made that teaching up out of whole cloth. Scripture teaches one rapture, not two.
      I hope this comment helps. The millenialist doctrines have spread lots of false fears about Judgment Day. If you read Scripture, you'll see that the Day of the Lord is always good news for believers. It's only bad news for unbelievers.

    • @gerard1954
      @gerard1954 3 года назад +1

      @@danielfinn9460 John 14 Jesus said “I” will come and receive you to myself that is the rapture the 2 Nd coming he sends his angles to gather up. Also the rapture is for believers only the dead in Christ rise first there will be no need to separate sheep from goats because they are all believers who go in the rapture the 2 Nd coming is when he separates sheep from goats.

    • @danielfinn9460
      @danielfinn9460 3 года назад

      @@gerard1954
      There will be no pre-tribulation rapture. That doctrine is not found in God's Word. It was invented by Charles Darby in the mid-to-late-1800s. It was popularized (and brought to the United States) by Cyrus Scoffield in the early 1900s. Again, it is not found in Scripture.
      On the Last Day, the dead will be raised and the elect will be gathered from the earth.

    • @michaelsinger2921
      @michaelsinger2921 2 года назад

      @@danielfinn9460 You ignore Dan. 9.

    • @danielfinn9460
      @danielfinn9460 2 года назад

      @@michaelsinger2921
      Hi Michael,
      In response to your comment, I read Daniel chapter 9 again.
      Passages I noted were Daniel 9:9 "To the Lord our God belong mercy and forgiveness, though we have rebelled against Him." What Daniel meant is that the guilt of sin belongs to mankind alone. In other words, you, me and Daniel are sinful. God alone is merciful. I also noticed Daniel 9:19 "O Lord, hear! O Lord, forgive! O Lord, listen and act! Do not delay for Your own sake, my God, for Your city and Your people are called by Your name." As all Christians do, Daniel prayed for the Lord's forgiveness and mercy. The basis of Daniel's request was God's own inherent goodness and mercy. And thanks be to God, He has shown mercy by sending His Son to die for our sins and to rise from the dead. That's the point of Daniel chapter 9. Indeed, the Gospel is the whole point of the whole Scripture.
      Now, please explain to me how I have ignored Daniel chapter 9. You made an assertion in your comment. Prove that your assertion is true. Please do it even if it is the last thing you ever do.
      Daniel

  • @87Clippers
    @87Clippers 4 года назад +4

    Thank you, Pastor!
    I've been reading The Bible and the future by Anthony Hoekema. It's been a light to me while I'm gradually getting rid of postmillennialism. Love my postmillennial brothers and sisters, but I can't cope with the idea of a Theonomy.
    Cheers from a Confessional Presbyterian.

  • @sled_dog
    @sled_dog 5 лет назад +8

    Just letting you know how much I'm enjoying your videos. They're answering many of my questions. Thank you!

    • @DrJordanBCooper
      @DrJordanBCooper  5 лет назад +4

      Thanks!

    • @prayunceasingly2029
      @prayunceasingly2029 5 лет назад

      I'm really enjoying it too, people often make the rapture and millenium into such a big issue that can be so complicated.

  • @philipmattern4699
    @philipmattern4699 Год назад +2

    How do you explain the many passages of Scripture that describe a time when Christ is more "hands on" in governing the earth than He is now, and yet sin still exists? Zechariah, especially Chapter 14; Isaiah chapters 2, 11, 14, 16, 18, 19, 23, 25, 27, 56, 61, 62, 65, and 66; Psalm 2; and many, many more.

  • @93556108
    @93556108 3 года назад +2

    Certainly you have just given a spectacular exposition on the millennium. Than you.

  • @timothycarne3151
    @timothycarne3151 11 месяцев назад

    I would love to see a full length video of the book of revelations. I have watched John MacArthurs several times and it seems to be much clearer than anything I have ever been taught in my WELS church. When I ask my pastors/teachers about it all I’m told is that it’s all picture language that’s hard to understand…

    • @janettelewis6681
      @janettelewis6681 11 месяцев назад +1

      Look for Voddie Baucham’s Revelation series. It’s amazing

    • @timothycarne3151
      @timothycarne3151 11 месяцев назад

      @@janettelewis6681 I love Voddie and I will definitely watch his, but he is not Lutheran and I want to hear from a Lutheran scholar.

    • @janettelewis6681
      @janettelewis6681 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@timothycarne3151 I’d be interested in hearing one, too.

  • @gamerjj777
    @gamerjj777 3 года назад +3

    So papias,polycarp, justin matyr, ireaneus,and tertullian all early church fathers were wrong that Apostle John taught them.
    😑

  • @YNikolich
    @YNikolich 6 лет назад +3

    Can you do a video on two resurrections and what that means? There seems to be a certain distinction made also in the Gospels between a resurrection of the just and a resurrection of the wicked which is also clearly stated in the Didache.

  • @KevernEllis
    @KevernEllis Год назад

    As a Protestant i myself disagree with secret rapture. However the 1000 years will be in heaven not on earth as believed by vast majority. Rev 20:4,5, rest of dead live not again till thousand years is expired. Satan is bound by circumstances. 2 Pet 3:10, at coming of Christ wicked will be slain by His brightness Isaiah 66:15,16. The righteous taken to heaven for thousand years to view the records. Satan has no 1 to tempt, after the 1000 years he will be permitted to continue his temptation and deception on the wicked in 2nd resurrection Rev 20:8-10.

  • @aioniansage6081
    @aioniansage6081 2 года назад +1

    Lutheran George N.H. Peters in his massive 3 volume work, "The Theocratic Kingdom" lays out every aspect of a literal 1000 reign of Jesus Christ on earth.

  • @davidjohnson3095
    @davidjohnson3095 4 года назад +1

    If the Bible clearly says 1000 years why would anyone think that it is not 1000 years? Why would the Bible give a specific number if we are not to follow it?

    • @BuildingApologetics
      @BuildingApologetics 3 года назад +1

      Because God has permission to use figurative language if He wants to

    • @dw8134
      @dw8134 Год назад +1

      @@BuildingApologetics You mean God just tells us about a figurative 1000 year period, even though it has the definite article before it in the greek text which in other places always describes a literal number in conjunction with a literal meaning?
      You mean a precise number as in the SEVEN lamps that literally represent SEVEN churches also in the Book of Revelation?
      And even If it were symbolic (which hermeneutically evidently it's not, the Millenium still would take place AFTER the second coming of Jesus.

    • @candyclews4047
      @candyclews4047 Год назад

      Because elsewhere in the Bible the number 1000 is always symbolic. A “thousand years,” signifies a long but indefinite period. Just as the assertion that God owns “the cattle on a thousand hills” means he owns the cattle on all the hills-not exactly a thousand hills (Psalm 50:10-12). Equally, "A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by" (Psalm 90:4, 2 Peter 3:8). Biblically, 1000 has always meant a large but indeterminate number.

  • @villarrealmarta6103
    @villarrealmarta6103 4 года назад

    One of the key issues with people not understanding that the devil is bound revolves around their misconception of God throughout all of scripture. They say that Satan seems to be active so he can’t be bound. However, God is also a God of wrath and judgement, not merely a God of only love and mercy and grace. So the judgments we see today and equate being Satan‘s work, is really the judgements of God being poured out upon the earth. People have a problem essentially with God’s work in the world.

    • @BuildingApologetics
      @BuildingApologetics 3 года назад

      You could also add that human beings are evil without Satan. So a lot of "satanic" acts are just depraved humans doing what they do.

  • @mikefrady7965
    @mikefrady7965 3 года назад

    The word in GREEK for millennium means two thousand after careful study
    Because in Greek they don’t use one in this “millennium”word it has to be at least TWO

  • @jeffryan5302
    @jeffryan5302 Месяц назад

    There’s also ( if you’ve heard ) the PanMill view: which ever way it pans out…!🤔

  • @izamota4761
    @izamota4761 4 года назад +1

    Excellent video, please return to talk about eschatology it´s a amazing subject :)

  • @ChristopherAlsruhe-si9ff
    @ChristopherAlsruhe-si9ff 3 месяца назад

    If the millennium be the new Testament age, we would have to explain how Satan was still working in the book of Acts. If we say that Satan was bound but the enumerable demons were not, then what benefit have we gained? The demonic has been working for 2000 years. If we say that Satan and the demons are bound in the sense of not being able to restrict the gospel, then that binding has failed. Saying that the gospel has reached the whole world is not a victory in itself. The vast majority of people in every generation, including our own, reject Jesus as savior, including many within the 2.4 billion professing Christians of today. While we can say that it is the corrupted heart that ultimately is at fault for not coming to Jesus James 1, 4), we can see that the demonic is working in many places with relatively few victories of the gospel in comparison, particularly where the demonic is alive and well. If this is the binding of Satan, what is the losing of Satan?
    Another thing to note is that Revelation 21:1-22:5 speaks of an age subsequent to Revelation 20. I don't think anyone denies that. Contrary to saying this is the eternal earth with heaven on earth because God is enthroned there, Salvation is occurring in this section. That is, we don't see the consummation of all things even here. In fact, I have only seen a couple verses in the New Testament, and none in the Old Testament, that speak of the final eternal consummation of all things. Maybe this is because it's so far in the future that we need not know anymore about it. As I noted in a comment on your video about the rapture, I am historical Pre-mil, believing that the thousand years is much longer than 1000 years, that believers do not leave the earth but are transformed on the earth, that there is another age after the millennium that fits better with the post millennial view of the restored but not yet consummated earth, and then there is a consummation far far in the future, who knows when. There are passages, such as in Ephesians that speak of multiple ages of the New Testament age. This is where I stand now.

  • @christian.comedy.channel.2
    @christian.comedy.channel.2 2 года назад

    Possibly Jordon you could have added the question: "Where is Christ ruling from right now?" The options are on the earth or in heaven. When that question is asked then the "A" Mill position makes logical sense, and for somebody to answer that Jesus is not ruling yet, he has to wait 2,000+ years to begin his earthly reign ... well that just sounds silly.

    • @geordiewishart1683
      @geordiewishart1683 Год назад

      Why is it silly?
      If we are now circa six thousand years from Adam, it makes sense that Christ would return to earth and rule the Sabbath seventh millennium

  • @jeromeperry1160
    @jeromeperry1160 10 месяцев назад

    It also says that Jesus will rule with an iron fist. So have a look at the world we live in. Jesus is obviously not ruling with an iron fist now, and satan is obviously not bound. How hard is it to believe that Jesus Christ will rule for a thousand years.

  • @anthonybutto1925
    @anthonybutto1925 3 года назад

    It is still a difficult book to understand for now and I am still wondering if people are going to fulfill the earth in the new earth to come; just like it was in the time of his creation of Adam and Eve when God said, "be fruitful, fulfill the earth and multiply." There is a reason why I say this: after the millennium, Satan will be released to deceive the nations. He will gather them as the grains of sand on the sea shore to do battle against the holy city Jerusalem. For him to gather them, who will they be? People born in the new millennium as the natural birth but not the spiritual birth? For the millennium does God want the new earth to be like the way it was in the time of Adam and Eve and his creation for only one thousand years? After all, Adam lived up to almost one thousand years. But perhaps they had not disobeyed God, they would live for eternity bringing children into the world after knowing they were obedient to God- but it was not bound to be that way. After the millennium maybe the ones to be deceived will be a lot of the angels with them. Or they may be a combination of both angels and some people who use to be saints but wont be anymore. None of us defenitely don't wanna have any of our relatives ending up that way. Satan who use to be called Lucifer sinned in heaven and he deceived a third of the angels and took a third of them into hell, God was defenetaly not gonna have that. Speaking of this, I may have just given out this part of the answer without me even knowing it.

  • @augsburgbiblechannel9246
    @augsburgbiblechannel9246 3 года назад +1

    Good stuff, but the Spirit is in the details (not the devil since this is the Bible). Getting into via exegesis this is not easy. If Rev 20 is recapitulation then it is ammillenial. If Rev 20 is consecutive -- follows in time upon Rev 19, then the premillenial view is correct.

    • @ZachFish-
      @ZachFish- Год назад

      What view do you hold to?

  • @danielandteresabowlin3406
    @danielandteresabowlin3406 4 года назад +5

    The Millennium occurs at the end of the Tribulation. It's Christ's thousand year reign on earth. Then Satan is loosed for one final battle which he loses and is cast into the Lake of Fire for eternity.

    • @artifacthunter1472
      @artifacthunter1472 4 года назад +1

      Do you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about when Jesus returns he defeats Satan. And time is no more!

    • @danielandteresabowlin3406
      @danielandteresabowlin3406 4 года назад +3

      @@artifacthunter1472 you are definitely entitled to your opinion.

    • @ChristianAuditore14
      @ChristianAuditore14 2 года назад

      @@danielandteresabowlin3406 that isn't biblical

    • @danielandteresabowlin3406
      @danielandteresabowlin3406 2 года назад

      @@ChristianAuditore14 it sure is

    • @ChristianAuditore14
      @ChristianAuditore14 2 года назад

      @@danielandteresabowlin3406 it was supposed to be to that guy

  • @AdamSmith-ec5nv
    @AdamSmith-ec5nv 4 года назад +1

    Any thoughts on partial preterism?

    • @Mr.Truxton
      @Mr.Truxton 4 года назад +4

      In my opinion it is the only way to explain passages like where Jesus says that he will come back in that generation.

    • @BuildingApologetics
      @BuildingApologetics 3 года назад +1

      @@Mr.Truxton I know this is a late reply. But I think the Olivet discourse could also be understood in a simple 4 part understanding.
      1) Signs of the Parousia described
      2) The Parousia described
      3) Timing of the signs explained
      4) Timing of the Parousia explained
      Parts one and two seem pretty evident from the text. Jesus Clearly describes all that is a sign of his coming, including the things that mean "the end is not yet". Yet later on, he actually describes His coming.
      Then he goes into the timing, he says all of these things (the signs) will come upon this generation. But of that day or hour (the coming itself) no one knows. This second statement is not a negation of the first but simply an explanation of a different thing.

  • @anantguru8244
    @anantguru8244 2 года назад

    There is another one "Parallel Millennium ".

  • @hawkeyelifeguy
    @hawkeyelifeguy 3 года назад

    Excellent, thank you.

  • @daviovann
    @daviovann 6 месяцев назад

    Interesting.

  • @russwhite3952
    @russwhite3952 2 года назад

    you need to ask more questions

  • @Michael-jf7np
    @Michael-jf7np 4 года назад +2

    The Millennium would be the *only* place in scripture where 1000 is literal (should you hold that view)... But- grace in all things! :) It's interesting to me that if amil is true, when Satan is released they will see it as such and the premil will see it as a ramp up to the great tribulation. The postmil will be reminding us all that "the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church" and then He will return. We (individually AND corporately) truly will not know the day or the hour!

  • @mitchellc4
    @mitchellc4 3 года назад +1

    The gospel is the gospel of the kingdom!
    Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah died for his people! God resurrected the Messiah! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
    Matt 24
    14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
    Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
    John 17
    3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.

  • @mikefrady7965
    @mikefrady7965 3 года назад

    Other than my comment that I had and I agree with this study but I don’t know in your Lutheran doctrine Or I have not studied it enough to equate it with the gospel of Jesus Christ Paul speaks about in Galatians any other gospel is a cursed like the LDS and the Catholic version and many others that have strayed from the truth

  • @danielpickering4070
    @danielpickering4070 6 лет назад

    Hi bro. How do fit the 7 year trib in or is there not one.

    • @DrJordanBCooper
      @DrJordanBCooper  6 лет назад +7

      I don't believe in a seven year tribulation. Rather the great tribulation is the entire church age, though things will get worse just prior to the end.

  • @artifacthunter1472
    @artifacthunter1472 4 года назад

    Look the words up in the Greek the thousand year reign actually means 2000 yeas or more, it’s the reign of God‘s elect from Acts 2 to when Jesus returns, don’t you know that the kingdom of heaven is inside of you and ye are temples of God! When Jesus returns everything happens on that day and nothing after!

  • @sutdhinanchaowonglert9312
    @sutdhinanchaowonglert9312 3 года назад

    The real question: is your church open during COVID ?

  • @michaeltomas3987
    @michaeltomas3987 11 месяцев назад

    With the love of Jesus. Please your assumptions and discussions are not based on scriptural. Your deduction arises from a theological and doctrinal summary of your church. Nothing you have stated was on any biblical basis. Context, please.

  • @frankmeintjes5012
    @frankmeintjes5012 4 года назад

    Man, I just love it when you guys just can't give a straight answer. You don't believe in the Rapture. Then we are in the Tribulation and Milinieun reign of Christ at the same time. You say that we should not divine the time in the word of prophecy. But the word it self declare that we should rightly divide the Word of truth.
    2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
    The word also teaches that when we study a subject we should use all scripture concerning that subject.
    2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
    For :
    1) doctrine
    2) reproof
    3) correction
    4) instruction in righteousness.
    The reason you cannot get your doctrine right is that you are not using all scripture and you don't know how to divide the word of truth.

    • @70AD-user45
      @70AD-user45 4 года назад

      The rapture was invented by John Nelson Darby in 1830. It's a Zionist doctrine that should have no place in Christianity. The Millennium was in between the 1st physical coming and the 2nd spiritual second coming in 70 AD. It was a 40 year period of time which started at the cross in 30 AD, and was consummated in 70 AD at the end of the Old Covenant world and the birth of the New Covenant age. The Parousia and judgement of apostate Jerusalem were also in 70 AD. All things written in the Old Covenant law and prophets was fulfilled in 70 AD.

  • @haroldhart2688
    @haroldhart2688 4 года назад +2

    THIS GUY DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE BELIEVES . READ REV 12

  • @redmangreen5752
    @redmangreen5752 5 лет назад

    Could it be the 1000 years is merely another word for eternal? It is a period where the followers move onto their eternal home, then the "Devil" comes back, and it all starts again. The reason is that until all are saved it will continue finally ending when all knees have bowed. It is the end of one cycle and the beginning of another. I call it Cyclesationist (what?)

    • @70AD-user45
      @70AD-user45 4 года назад

      It's not eternal. The Millennium is a SYMBOLIC number when the righteous remnant were in a 40 year process of coming out of the Old Covenant age of "sin and death" and into the New Covenant age of "grace and life". The 40 year process started at the cross in 30 AD and ended in 70 AD at the fall of the Old Covenantal world, when the temple was demolished and Jerusalem went up in flames. 70 AD symbolised the end of the Old Covenantal age and the consummation of the New Covenant kingdom age of the church. The Parousia (second coming) was also in 70 AD when the Son of Man came spiritually, "on the clouds of heaven", in judgement against apostate Jerusalem. The resurrection of the dead was in 70 AD as well as the fulfillment of all things written in the Old Covenant law and prophets. The Millennium was fulfilled in the first century and is a symbolic number of greatness. Notice the 1st verse of Revelation which speaks of things that will "shortly come to pass". This 40 years (30 AD to 70 AD) is also an important number in Hebraic numerology. It's a number that comes up again and again. The Millennium is sometimes called the 2nd Exodus (out of the Old and into the New). The righteous remnant inherited the New Covenant kingdom in 70 AD, which is WITHOUT END, with no end-times. The eternality is the New Covenant age (the church or the body of Christ) or sometimes called the New Heavens and Earth. The temple in Jerusalem was called the (Old) Heavens and Earth, because this is where heaven and earth overlapped with each other. The Old Covenant Jews used to say, "this age, and the age to come". This is covenantal language and has been fulfilled.

    • @BuildingApologetics
      @BuildingApologetics 3 года назад +1

      Well, I don't think that it could mean eternal for a couple of reasons. Verse 5 says "he rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection." So clearly there must be an end to the period. Also a great battle occurs at the end of the thousand years, yet in the eternal state there will be no death or sin.
      As for the cycle idea that the devil comes back over and over again, this seems to be ruled out by verse 10: "and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever" So once Satan is defeated here, he cannot show up again to cause trouble.

    • @redmangreen5752
      @redmangreen5752 3 года назад

      @@BuildingApologetics I am honestly not saying I buy into it. It's more forethought, I think. I did read where some do believe it cycles until Jesus gets all that are His. What their point is that yes, the devil does get his, but everything such as verse 10 would be the finality at the very end (if it were, in fact, a cycle). I know we have to be careful how we picture how a verse players out because the outcome would be subject to personal perspective. I appreciate your input on the subject!

  • @flamingrobin5957
    @flamingrobin5957 4 года назад

    every mystery is not plain and in view it must be researched Those who alegorize away prophecy or look for everything to be plainly handed to them in obvious fashion are clearly going to miss what God has intentionally concealed in a MYSTERY

  • @artifacthunter1472
    @artifacthunter1472 4 года назад

    The millennium is now it’s the reign of the church until the return of Christ, The word used for 1000 years is really defined 2000 it ends in 2035! When Jesus returns everything is over and time is no more! It’s obvious when you spent years studying old testament Hebrew and New Testament Greek!

  • @Richard-wb6hk
    @Richard-wb6hk 3 года назад +2

    You are too vague...sorry...you make it sound like the book of Revelations is purely symbolic with no literalism...yes, it is symbolic indeed, but there are several things happening in Revelations...you can not just say, well, its all symbolic...no big deal.... Christ wins in the end and thats it...Yes, Christ does win...we all know that...but when specific numbers are given, its there for a reason...144,000 from the tribes of Isreal...is a HUGE part of Revelation...the bible says 144,000 will be witnessing, preaching the gospel...it is what its saying...and yes it does speak of a 1000 year Kingdom reign...you seem to allude that its just symbolic...no, it is a real 1000 year kingdom...God would not have stated that if it was not a literal kingdom. And you seem to assume that when it speaks of Isreal, its the church...NO...much of revelations is for the Jews and their salvation during the tribulation. Yes, the church is involved during the 7 year tribulation, but its a major time for the Isrealites who have been scattered across the globe. They will be persecuted and slaughtered for their faith....And you miss the anti Christ...the mark...these are not symbols but real literal things and events. ...Please...do not just base your beliefs on the organized Lutheran church...study and pray...we all need to do our own part with researching and study...not just follow a path of a particular church or denomination. I did that for years until I researched...prayed...learned the Hebrew and Greek meanings of the scriptures...God opened up and the knowledge and inspiration started to flood my mind and spirit.....May God bless you...😊👍

    • @BuildingApologetics
      @BuildingApologetics 3 года назад

      I would argue that very few things in Revelation are intended to be literal. Revelation is symbolic literature, and John's first century audience would have taken it as such. In fact, neither the 144000, the 7 years, nor the millennium should be taken literally.
      Revelation uses 144,000 to describe all kinds of believers from every tribe and tongue. It says this to flip upside down the idea that it is about Jew only. John is making the point that Christians are now symbolically Jews compared to those who claim to be Jews but are not.
      Regarding the 7 years, 7 is a number of completeness. So much like the 7 churches represent all churches, so also the 7 years represents all of the church age until Christ's return.
      "no, it is a real 1000 year kingdom...God would not have stated that if it was not a literal kingdom"
      So you are arguing that God cannot use symbols if He wants to? Who are you to say God must always be literal?
      The antichrist may be real, but the mark of the beast is also a symbol. It simply refers to anyone who worships the state over God.
      I do not just listen to what the Lutheran church says, since I am not a Lutheran. I just follow the Bible where it leads, and Revelation is not a literal book. If we take it as such we are missing the point.

    • @Richard-wb6hk
      @Richard-wb6hk 3 года назад

      @@BuildingApologetics ... Christians love to spiritualize everything instead of reading the scriptures as God intended. Study the Hebrew...the Greek...look up what the real translations are. Christians have been following mis translations for centuries. Example, hell is a pagan belief which was added to the scriptures..Hades is not "hell" ...it basically is the grave of the dead. We need to research...we need to seek the original Greek for the New Testament, and Hebrew for the Old Testament. Gehenna is a real place where trash and bodies of criminals burned. It is a literal valley where the fire and stench from the burning trash never ceases. But christians made assumptions that Jesus was talking about "hell." Another example of spiritualizing the scriptures. The early fathers did not believe in a forever hell and damnation. The Catholic church has a lot to do with the mistranslation of the scriptures. One major tragic mistranslation is the "forever" suffering of unbelievers. Read the entire bible. Forever is not translatable because there was no greek word for forever. Aion or the eons are the correct Greek terms. They mean an age or ages, not "forever". God always speaks in ages...not forevers. All over the scriptures, God speaks of His restoring all creation and how all men will be drawn to Him. His mercy triumphs over judgement...His anger is for a season. In Adam, all die...In Christ, all will be vivified. The judgement of sinners and unbelievers will be for an age (not forever)...after judgement, repentance follows....Christ died for all mankind....in the end, all will be saved....thats the good news...the gospel....when Christ said it is finished, its finished....for all mankind....I said a lot here, but it was important to say. I have said what I needed to say. I will stop here. God bless you...We must all keep seeking His truths.

    • @BuildingApologetics
      @BuildingApologetics 2 года назад

      @Altar and Incense Well I wouldn't call it a rush to spiritualize everything. That is a bit of an exaggeration. I myself believe in an antichrist, final battle, final catastrophes and Chaos, the return of Christ, the the literal resurrection from the dead. That being said, the book of Revelation is apocalyptic literature and must be treated as such. Therefore, it would not be read in the same way as narrative or historical passages such as exodus.
      I am glad that we both agree that there is metaphor in the book. However, we must be very careful not to be minimalistic when considering things symbolism. Many people only resort to a figurative interpretation when all literal interpretations are absolutely impossible. We should not be narrow in seeing symbolism since John was not so narrow in writing that symbolism. John expects us to do a little more than see symbolism only when he explicitly tells us it is symbolism. Just because he explains metaphors sometimes, doesn't mean he must always do so.
      In fact, there are clear places where he does not explain the metaphors. The Two witnesses are called lampstands. Nowhere in that section is this metaphors explained. Nor is the metaphor of measuring the temple explained a few verses prior. The marks on the heads of the 144,000 is taken to be figurative by almost all, yet there is nothing explicit to say it is a metaphor. Few indeed take the sword in Jesus' mouth, the demon locusts, the bloody lamb, or the dimensions of heavenly Jerusalem to be literal. Yet, John never explicitly tells us that these are metaphors. No. He expects us to use our reason to figure it out.
      John made a choice to write figuratively most of the time. So where literalism makes us more comfortable or not, it will make us misunderstand what he says

  • @bigmac3006
    @bigmac3006 4 года назад +1

    The 1,000 yr reign of Christ even shows up in the Bible. Hmmmm Revelation 20 ring a bell?

    • @JLLawrencethe3rd
      @JLLawrencethe3rd 4 года назад +2

      Did we watch the same video?
      He covers that for pretty much the whole video...

    • @bigmac3006
      @bigmac3006 4 года назад

      @@JLLawrencethe3rd you must not have.

    • @JLLawrencethe3rd
      @JLLawrencethe3rd 4 года назад +2

      @@bigmac3006 Fair enough. I thought I heard him bring up Revelation 20 a good bit and explain his view pretty well. Must've misheard all that

    • @bigmac3006
      @bigmac3006 4 года назад +1

      @@JLLawrencethe3rd no problem my friend. I hope you are doing well considering the difficult times we live in.

    • @JLLawrencethe3rd
      @JLLawrencethe3rd 4 года назад +1

      @@bigmac3006 I am doing well and I pray the same is true for you.

  • @flamingrobin5957
    @flamingrobin5957 4 года назад

    BEHOLD I TELL YOU A MYSTERY WE WILL NOT ALL SLEEP, CAUGHT UP TO MEET THE LORD IN THE AIR

    • @artifacthunter1472
      @artifacthunter1472 4 года назад

      That happens after the seventh Trump the last day the end of time!

    • @BuildingApologetics
      @BuildingApologetics 3 года назад

      @@artifacthunter1472 Do you think the last day is a literal 24 hour day or just a symbolic period of time?

  • @appelakkount1631
    @appelakkount1631 4 года назад

    Thx for this you-tube.
    I was also thinking about this subject.
    We know, that Jesus comes at the last and 7th trumpetblast/sjofar.
    But if the millennium will be after that last trumpent sound.
    It means that when Satan is still alive ,and in the future wil make the last temptation on earth after the 1000 years, that the last trumpent already had blown.
    But... i think that when Jesus will come, at the 7th and last trumpetblast, that Satan will be put in the lake of fire and the second death
    That is also a reason i am also a a-milinium 😉.
    If you understand what i am saying 😉. Englisch is not mine mother language.

  • @shawnmiller9763
    @shawnmiller9763 5 лет назад +2

    Yeah we can’t take the Bible literally.. I mean God isn’t big enough to do these miraculous things in the end. We have to “read” things differently so that we can understand them, right, isn’t that what you said.
    Revelation or the revealing wasn’t written until what, 90 ad, so if the other books were written earlier, none of this had been revealed yet for you to even compare.
    You think you are too smart for your own good.
    You are adding to the book man, you will be cursed for your false teaching. The book says so

    • @jabbers2126
      @jabbers2126 5 лет назад +3

      This may be true but try not to be so negative towards the man, he is just teaching what he thinks is right and has been taught himself. That approach will not produce positive outcome even if you are correct.

    • @jabbers2126
      @jabbers2126 5 лет назад

      I do agree however, we should read the Bible literally first.

    • @candyclews4047
      @candyclews4047 5 лет назад +2

      @@jabbers2126- We can't take the Bible literally. 2 Peter 3:8 warns us - "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day"

    • @jabbers2126
      @jabbers2126 5 лет назад +1

      @@candyclews4047 That's your opinion. Dispensational views would disagree however. I think you should read it and study it but try not stress over it either. Many have their opinions and use verses to "prove" their opinions right but the truth is many people just interpret how they were taught to do so. Either way, studying it and doing your best to understand it is important no matter what.

    • @frankmeintjes5012
      @frankmeintjes5012 4 года назад

      Well, put. that is the god they serve like you said their god cannot say what he means and mean what he says. their god is forever speaking to them in riddles that is why they don't understand their god.

  • @vybzs8869
    @vybzs8869 4 года назад

    This is borring