Amongst others (mostly Laverdas) I used to have a Moto Guzzi Le Mans II. At 6'2" tall, it was always a bit small for me. Wind the clock forward 45+ years, and I, too, now have low mileage, second-hand CE-04. No problems on the CE-04 with my long legs and somewhat bulkier frame now. I agree with you that it's possibly much closer to a motorcycle than a scooter, and the handling is excellent. For my use case (local errands and a bit of two-wheeled fun in the countryside) it's superb, and every ride so far has put a smile on my face. Charging and top-ups when out and about have been easy - and even a short top-up adds 20 miles. We, too, have solar PV and run two BMW i3s (as well as a Ford Maverick pickup). I think the CE-04 is a very complete and well-executed two-wheeler that's just different. It'll never replace the thrill of a decent motorcycle ridden well, but it is close. Much closer than many will admit! I really enjoyed your video. It had lovely, clear, high-resolution footage and sensible commentary with a good sense of what it's actually like to ride the bike. Who thought that 31kW could be so much fun? 😀
Glad you enjoyed it and validating my points. I have been using it just as much as my gas bikes and like you said it’s just different but sill a ton of fun. Cheers from Texas
I appreciated your reviews; I decided to buy the Mandelo v100S, getting it in 3 weeks. Will use the V100 for weekend rides and the BMW in the city to go to work. I currently have the bmw c650gt. Have it since 2017 and love it. Im thinking of selling it for the ce04. Since I will use the v100 for longer rides.
Because it was last years model and here in the USA, these kind of bikes are very slow sellers. From what I understand the CE-04 sells much better in Europe.
@@user-oe4gl6xq2d That is basically what I did, I waited out the dealer until they were really motivated to sell ... =). They sell well in Europe but not in the US or Canada from what i heard.
I have an electric car and part of the appreciation is the absolute silence. I simply cannot hear the electric motors. But in an exposed 2 wheeled electric scooter/motorcycle the electric motor sound is just too annoying. Range, charging are of course known shortcomings. Technology needs to dramatically improve before electric motorcycles become mainstream. Having said that I do have a SurRon electric bike but thats just for running around my farm.
@@ThatGermanFella I don't think my SurRon has regen. Maybe it's too old and the newer generations have that. My Tesla dual motor Model 3 is great with one pedal driving. Maybe motorcycles will soon get there. 🤞
Amongst others (mostly Laverdas) I used to have a Moto Guzzi Le Mans II.
At 6'2" tall, it was always a bit small for me.
Wind the clock forward 45+ years, and I, too, now have low mileage, second-hand CE-04.
No problems on the CE-04 with my long legs and somewhat bulkier frame now.
I agree with you that it's possibly much closer to a motorcycle than a scooter, and the handling is excellent.
For my use case (local errands and a bit of two-wheeled fun in the countryside) it's superb, and every ride so far has put a smile on my face.
Charging and top-ups when out and about have been easy - and even a short top-up adds 20 miles.
We, too, have solar PV and run two BMW i3s (as well as a Ford Maverick pickup).
I think the CE-04 is a very complete and well-executed two-wheeler that's just different. It'll never replace the thrill of a decent motorcycle ridden well, but it is close.
Much closer than many will admit!
I really enjoyed your video.
It had lovely, clear, high-resolution footage and sensible commentary with a good sense of what it's actually like to ride the bike.
Who thought that 31kW could be so much fun? 😀
Glad you enjoyed it and validating my points. I have been using it just as much as my gas bikes and like you said it’s just different but sill a ton of fun. Cheers from Texas
I appreciated your reviews; I decided to buy the Mandelo v100S, getting it in 3 weeks. Will use the V100 for weekend rides and the BMW in the city to go to work. I currently have the bmw c650gt. Have it since 2017 and love it. Im thinking of selling it for the ce04. Since I will use the v100 for longer rides.
That sounds like a great combo! You will love the V100 it is an amazing bike.
Plenty of torque on these bikes & seems far ahead of the competition.
The biggie is the charging, the 30 amp on board charger enables the quick 1 hr re charge time, it’s a game changer.
You got 6500 off the cost of the ce04; that was because of your trade in or because of dealers manufacturer rebate?
Because it was last years model and here in the USA, these kind of bikes are very slow sellers. From what I understand the CE-04 sells much better in Europe.
I'm in Canada and there are a few at the dealerships. They don't sell well. I will try to get a lower price. There are some discounts currently.
@@user-oe4gl6xq2d That is basically what I did, I waited out the dealer until they were really motivated to sell ... =). They sell well in Europe but not in the US or Canada from what i heard.
I have an electric car and part of the appreciation is the absolute silence. I simply cannot hear the electric motors. But in an exposed 2 wheeled electric scooter/motorcycle the electric motor sound is just too annoying. Range, charging are of course known shortcomings. Technology needs to dramatically improve before electric motorcycles become mainstream. Having said that I do have a SurRon electric bike but thats just for running around my farm.
I have the Talaria and its great for what it is. Personally, I actually like the initial spool up whine and decel regen, but to each his own ... =)
@@ThatGermanFella Yep, the "spool up" does give an additional sense of acceleration. I do enjoy my little SurRon. Fun little things aren't they! 👍😁
@@ThatGermanFella I don't think my SurRon has regen. Maybe it's too old and the newer generations have that. My Tesla dual motor Model 3 is great with one pedal driving. Maybe motorcycles will soon get there. 🤞
@@sunrisejak2709 yes they are! ... =)
@@sunrisejak2709 the bmw is already there, in ECO or Dynamic mode it's 1 throttle riding only ... lol, you don't need the conventional brakes at all!