EV Factory Jobs Are Worse Than You Think

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  • Опубликовано: 21 фев 2024
  • Amazon's EV company, Rivian, started 5 years ago when they bought a Mitsubishi factory in Illinois. At the old factory workers were union, made $30/hr, and had great benefits. Now, Rivian workers start at $20/hr, have no union, and injuries ran rampant.
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  • @d.p.9567
    @d.p.9567 3 месяца назад +648

    Any company saying they are your “family;” RUN! 😂

    • @Yourmission9
      @Yourmission9 3 месяца назад +46

      I came here for this comment! “We’re a family that’s why we pay you garbage, expect the world, and will replace you minutes after you’re dead, you know, family stuff!”

    • @jon9103
      @jon9103 3 месяца назад +23

      Exactly we expect our employees to bend over backwards for us, like we're their family. But when it's what they can do for their employees? Just business, nothing personal.

    • @d.p.9567
      @d.p.9567 3 месяца назад +20

      @@jon9103 Absolutely. Always 1 sided. For example the “2 week notice thing.” They just walk you out almost immediately.

    • @-fuk57
      @-fuk57 3 месяца назад +9

      U-Haul does that.
      Terrible company with the lowest prices.

    • @AndiAndrea
      @AndiAndrea 3 месяца назад +8

      Yep. I have learned that the hard way.

  • @grumpycat9065
    @grumpycat9065 3 месяца назад +620

    When Amazon is involved you know workers are not going to be treated well. There's a reason Jeff is the one of the richest persons in the world.

    • @thomaspeng6805
      @thomaspeng6805 3 месяца назад +8

      Rivian is not owned or operated by Amazon

    • @velvetypotato711
      @velvetypotato711 3 месяца назад

      Amazon workers get paid more and got covid bonuses. Regular warehouse workers have to deal with the same conditions but less pay and many got federal minimum during covid. If you want to slave and make a load of money Amazon is the place to be. If you want to slave and make peanuts work in a random warehouse.

    • @michaeld4861
      @michaeld4861 3 месяца назад

      @@thomaspeng6805 Yes, it literally is part owned by Amazon.

    • @christopherkidwell9817
      @christopherkidwell9817 3 месяца назад

      @@thomaspeng6805Not WHOLLY owned by Amazon. They do own 20% and going up of the company which means that they have a big say in things.

    • @richardbixler
      @richardbixler 3 месяца назад +5

      @@thomaspeng6805You two fight like cats and dogs 😂

  • @gothducks
    @gothducks 3 месяца назад +106

    One correction, Rivian is not even in the top ten of most valuable automakers. They have yet to make a profit.

    • @mattjozwiak1797
      @mattjozwiak1797 3 месяца назад +10

      That’s exactly what I said when they made that claim…

    • @keithbellair9508
      @keithbellair9508 3 месяца назад +15

      He is referring to the stocks market cap.. which is way way down this year., but they also have bozo’s amacon money

    • @lawncaretoamillion
      @lawncaretoamillion 3 месяца назад +5

      Value and probability are two completely different things.

    • @n4lgaming772
      @n4lgaming772 3 месяца назад +4

      Say you don’t understand valuation without actually saying it.

    • @Vesta_the_Lesser
      @Vesta_the_Lesser 3 месяца назад +1

      @@n4lgaming772 "Say you don’t understand valuation without actually saying it."
      Say something in a pointlessly condescending and unproductive way. Then do the right thing.

  • @sylvainmichaud2262
    @sylvainmichaud2262 3 месяца назад +222

    _A big family_ with a physically and mentally abusive father.

    • @jon9103
      @jon9103 3 месяца назад +14

      Also financially abusive.

    • @ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr
      @ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr 3 месяца назад +5

      unfortunately, that's not uncommon in america either

    • @user-lk7zr5hm9y
      @user-lk7zr5hm9y 3 месяца назад

      @@ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr Thats why yoUwilLonlyHavEcatS (KAREN/

    • @EricTD1995
      @EricTD1995 3 месяца назад +4

      And mother.

  • @onemanmob6756
    @onemanmob6756 3 месяца назад +91

    According to early 2024 figures Rivian is losing about $40k per each vehicle they sell (down from $140k last year). Every cent that can be saved screwing over the employees matters - achieving the break even is the utmost goal now. Then it will be the profit for the shareholders. Don't expect any improvements for the peasants.

    • @homieinthesky8919
      @homieinthesky8919 3 месяца назад +4

      So you rather them sell an expansive car which prices out the vast majority of the population (loosing more money) thus bankrupting the business (ppl loose their jobs) instead of shareholders barely making money (their stock price has plummeted thus shareholders LOOSE money) and production continues so workers can get paid and the company can stay afloat longer to possible continue for the current staff.
      You seem to barely know how shareholders make money. In addition many rivian employees in the factory are shareholders due to their stock compensation. But hey not many ppl would research what they say b4 blabering bs

    • @onemanmob6756
      @onemanmob6756 3 месяца назад

      @@homieinthesky8919 you have drawn many conclusions from my comment that suggest you have a big imagination, because the logic fails to explain how such conclusions/connections could be made...
      Ps. look up in the dictionary 'loose' vs 'lose'

    • @johnw3772
      @johnw3772 3 месяца назад +13

      @@homieinthesky8919 their comment wasn't saying how it should be or that they would like it to work this way. It's saying it's how it's going to go & is working currently. You're not offended at what they said. You're offended that they're right about the state of the business & the pursuit of constant growth in profits.

    • @homieinthesky8919
      @homieinthesky8919 3 месяца назад +3

      @@johnw3772 dude. The company is a complete shit show and should be gone. Im just saying stating how cursing shareholders alao curses regular employees. I also am showingthat financially for most of the workers its better for this to happen instead of all of them being out of the job. The shareholders (executives, investors and employees) have all lost money and continue to do so. Im just stating the overal facts. You apparently couldnt understand that. Filing for bankrupcy gives the ceos and institutional inveators a gigantic paypout while employees get actual scraps. It quite litterally would still benifit the rich immensly in the company if they fall apart.

    • @tylerhunt7552
      @tylerhunt7552 3 месяца назад +1

      Those shares are barely worth anything. I've been there over two years and it's not even worth over $2k. That's laughable. And I have to wait another 3 years for those shares to vest so I can actually sell them. Do I think my shares are magically going to 20x what they are worth now in three years? No, not at all. Lmao

  • @johnniefauvergue6723
    @johnniefauvergue6723 3 месяца назад +246

    One thing I notice is how the price of a new vehicle has gone up since 2017.

    • @JakeobE
      @JakeobE 3 месяца назад +16

      They went up 2020 a lot and stayed there, mainly due to the pandemic.

    • @curedham2963
      @curedham2963 3 месяца назад +16

      its all the tech they put even in the most basic “budget” vehicles
      Examples
      Toyota corolla, camry
      Nissan versa, altima
      Chevy trax, malibu
      etc

    • @christopherbasham1551
      @christopherbasham1551 3 месяца назад +11

      @@curedham2963Our Versa has roll down windows, old fashioned door locks and a 5 speed manual transmission.

    • @KBergs
      @KBergs 3 месяца назад +17

      ​​​@@JakeobE Not just pandemic, a 40% increase in money supply during the Trump administration is a huge factor.

    • @gmllz
      @gmllz 3 месяца назад +1

      Good starting point for prices is 2019, pre-pandemic. Money supply increase thanks to our government's lack of a modern system to evaluate which citizens and businesses actually needed funds during the pandemic. No system in place, so almost everyone gets a few checks!
      Lax auto loan lending during the pandemic. Greedflation throughout the economy, but specific to autos, we had dealer markups with buyers willing to pay 10s of thousands over MSRP. Now the rubberband isn't stretched to the demand extreme anymore. Prices are and will continue to correct and many dealers will go out of business. I saw Rivian had a 10% layoff announced yesterday and Stellantis laid off all north american workers (hat tip to the UAW).
      Meanwhile electric cars have caused insurance prices to skyrocket. Banks have tightened lending standards and now require A1 credit and/or a significant down payment or have stopped auto lending altogether. The pendulum is swinging the other way now, but rank-and-file workers will bear the brunt while business cuts costs (layoffs) and looks for ways to be more efficient with remaining workforce, while investing in A.I.. It's a story as old as time itself. Workers always get the shaft...especially in America. It is by design.

  • @Kate-hh8yi
    @Kate-hh8yi 3 месяца назад +154

    It isn't a learning curve - it's blatant disregard for human life.
    Profits over people

    • @taylorc2542
      @taylorc2542 3 месяца назад +4

      Yeah, but union people will endlessly find things to complain about until it becomes ridiculous.

    • @diemight7591
      @diemight7591 3 месяца назад

      hows that boot taste?@@taylorc2542

    • @thomaslong8448
      @thomaslong8448 3 месяца назад

      The company is constantly in the reds...I am surprised that more of them are not fired...the company is trying to survive. Quit if you don't want to be part to make it survive.

    • @goblinzl1
      @goblinzl1 3 месяца назад +5

      @@taylorc2542 so not wanting to get killed or injured and be paid fairly is complaining?

    • @goblinzl1
      @goblinzl1 3 месяца назад

      @@thomaslong8448 without workers no co. can survive. have a heart why dont you.

  • @philrabe910
    @philrabe910 3 месяца назад +239

    In the early 80's American manufacturers were scrambling to catch up with Japanese manufacturing, particularly in auto making. The Japanese system allowed the lowliest floor sweeper to make suggestions to speed up or streamline operations.

    • @BeavisBomer-vo9yx
      @BeavisBomer-vo9yx 3 месяца назад +4

      @@boyblue3270I strongly agree

    • @matthewgagnon9426
      @matthewgagnon9426 3 месяца назад +22

      @@boyblue3270 The main advantage the US had was that after WWII most of Europe was utterly ravaged by two wars. The disadvantage now is that the US has severely stagnated while Europe and the rest of the world have had time to rebuild with lessons learned through the intervening decades.

    • @TomyPesantes
      @TomyPesantes 3 месяца назад +15

      Yup, Jidoka is literally the most simple system to implement into the production chain, legit let your workers understand the production process and their role and then if they see an issue shut their side of the production down to save on wasted material.

    • @lv1543
      @lv1543 3 месяца назад

      @@boyblue3270 stay mad redcoat

    • @lv1543
      @lv1543 3 месяца назад +4

      @@boyblue3270 salty redcoat

  • @yossarian6799
    @yossarian6799 3 месяца назад +154

    The Union brothers and sisters at Mack's plant in Macungie PA went on a 39-day strike and it got them a 55% pay increase over 5 years and no increase in insurance premiums. If such a scheme weren't viable, Mack wouldn't have agreed to it. Without unions, workers have ZERO power to negotiate for themselves. Stop being bullied. Stand up for yourselves and demand what you deserve.

    • @artsmith103
      @artsmith103 3 месяца назад

      When it wasn't viable, the union bankrupted GM. Then the Obamanation stole the bond holders' money to pay the bankrupt union.

    • @wt9653
      @wt9653 3 месяца назад +15

      Mack only did that for near terms.
      Their future is all about AI, robots, and automation. Mexico could be in their sights.

    • @artsmith103
      @artsmith103 3 месяца назад +8

      My comment on history of union failure agreed by GM was deleted

    • @yossarian6799
      @yossarian6799 3 месяца назад +6

      @@artsmith103 YT has been sketchy the past few days. I've had a dozen comments just vanish into thin air.

    • @artsmith103
      @artsmith103 3 месяца назад +5

      @@yossarian6799 When the Tucker/Putin interview landed, YT was deleting dozens of comments.

  • @4AMO4
    @4AMO4 3 месяца назад +46

    Sad that they can sell the Rivian tree ornament and it would be a considerable "bonus" for them.

  • @JimmyJoeBob
    @JimmyJoeBob 3 месяца назад +10

    That first man looked like he just came back from war.

  • @Dysiode
    @Dysiode 3 месяца назад +55

    2:49 You made this mistake in the previous video's description, but Rivian is not the third most valuable automaker in the world. It's the third most valuable EV ONLY automaker in the world. Pretty disappointed this made it into a video

    • @MrHammer2088
      @MrHammer2088 3 месяца назад +3

      Isn't Teslla the 1st valuable EV.....?🤔

    • @johnsutherland7561
      @johnsutherland7561 3 месяца назад +1

      Wrong Tesla is worth more than 50 times Rivian

    • @Dysiode
      @Dysiode 3 месяца назад

      Well, and you see, this is the beauty of not baking an incorrect statement into a video, because you're correct and I made a typo I can fix :D@er2088

    • @shawnlocker5691
      @shawnlocker5691 3 месяца назад +1

      Typical modern day reporting

    • @valis992000
      @valis992000 3 месяца назад

      It's not "reporting" it's an opinion piece to promote the UAW. @@shawnlocker5691

  • @albeit1
    @albeit1 3 месяца назад +10

    Rivian is NOT the third most valuable automaker in the world. Or even in the US.
    Maybe they wrote the script a long time ago.

  • @nostalgic_pokemon_memories
    @nostalgic_pokemon_memories 3 месяца назад +70

    how is rivian the 3rd most valuable automaker in the world when they just make 1 thing..... wtf how does that even add up

    • @daveh2612
      @daveh2612 3 месяца назад +2

      They make at least 3 different vehicles.

    • @johnsutherland7561
      @johnsutherland7561 3 месяца назад +22

      They aren't the 3rd most valuable auto company serious misreporting. Unless they are talking about that city

    • @brianalleyne8978
      @brianalleyne8978 3 месяца назад +5

      An electric delivery vehicle which is only sold to one company

    • @Xonikz
      @Xonikz 3 месяца назад +3

      This is not a "units sold" evaluation, this is an "investment made in" reference.

    • @wt9653
      @wt9653 3 месяца назад +5

      Even though Rivian loses 40,000 dollars for every vehicle they sell.
      Wall Street sees them as a multibillion dollar company in the distant future.
      Tesla doesn't have the funds to be the most wealthy auto maker in the world. The investors made them the wealthiest and they will be in the next few years.

  • @danpress7745
    @danpress7745 3 месяца назад +5

    Solution: employee/union ownership. Buy the company, start a company.

  • @phatmeow7764
    @phatmeow7764 3 месяца назад +3

    from my personal experience every time a company/org or management team says "you are like family" its a red flag...

  • @AnB15
    @AnB15 3 месяца назад +24

    I worked there from April of '22 till Oct of '23.
    Rivian fired me for taking Patenity leave. By state law I should have had a job 6 weeks after my boy was born. Instead they canceled my contract and fired me 3 days before my boy was born.
    I worked as a welder on the skateboard line, the frames they make are full of porosity and are just trash. The welds they "repair" are just gone over the top and covered up with another crappy weld. The frames will fall apart in just a couple years.

    • @tylerhunt7552
      @tylerhunt7552 3 месяца назад +2

      Unfortunately I believe you. Lol

    • @traybern
      @traybern 2 месяца назад +2

      FEDERAL LAW REQUIRES 12 WEEKS of FMLA!!! GET a LAWYER!!!

  • @MMuraseofSandvich
    @MMuraseofSandvich 3 месяца назад +46

    Rivian has a horrible Indeed review average (about 2), so I'm avoiding them like the plague.

    • @deplorablelibertarian
      @deplorablelibertarian 3 месяца назад +4

      You ever seen that video floating around youtube about a dude with a dent on the number of his rivian? The dealership wanted to charge 40 flippin grand to ‘fix’ the bumper….so he was left to his own devices in order to fix his truck. He got some dude with a heat gun to fix it.

  • @miguelito5602
    @miguelito5602 3 месяца назад +13

    I used to work there about 1 year when I first moved to normal, paid pretty good for my first ‘real’ job. There was this one part we Called the knuckle that the wheel and brakes gets attached onto, people would get bruised all the time trying to fit it in and even when we complained about they said they were fixing it and never did

    • @indiecore-2022
      @indiecore-2022 3 месяца назад

      I worked at ppg for 6 months and witnessed so many Osha violations. They just hire anybody at rivian, ex cons, addicts anybody. That's why so many damn accidents happen, half the fork drivers are high or on harder drugs because rivian doesn't test

  • @Slide61
    @Slide61 Месяц назад +2

    Well, unfortunately, manufacturers go to countries where workers think this is normal and are afraid to lose their jobs.

  • @seanmolloy6188
    @seanmolloy6188 3 месяца назад +8

    Everything they're saying sounds just like it did when I worked at Terex Corporation building the Genie lifts before they packed up most of their production and moved it to Mexico, and got rid of all their employees. They talk about family, but they don't care.

  • @Snarkbar
    @Snarkbar 3 месяца назад +23

    I work on the non-union side at a union factory, and I am thankful every day for the protections the union gives their members that also trickle down to the rest of us below the C-suite. Maybe that's what they mean by trickle-down economics??

  • @Knucklehead4400
    @Knucklehead4400 3 месяца назад +2

    I was a Daimler Chrysler tech, if you bruised your arm jamming in a headlight you are an knucklehead

    • @kiwidiesel
      @kiwidiesel 3 месяца назад +1

      Lol was thinking the same thing. I'm a heavy diesel tech and work exclusively in the field, if I hurt myself in any way in the course of my work day it's because I am being a moron and not using my brain correctly. I have one black finger nail because I was being a moron that day. Stupid is as stupid does.

  • @PamelaTurner-vu8ve
    @PamelaTurner-vu8ve 3 месяца назад +25

    This mindset has been occurring across many industries & work spaces. Blessings to all of you. Thank you Perfect Union for posting. I have learned when a company states "family" to walk away. Also have received useless gifts for "appreciation". Only needed them to correct the workflow. The productivity & numbers proceeded over simple & honorable solutions. And, this was in the Medical field. I'm happy things are being shaken up & out. Good will prevail. 🕊

  • @aroihkin
    @aroihkin 3 месяца назад +25

    Sounds like the tesla factory in fremont CA, I was hired, put through orientation, and then I walked. Building vehicles without a union is always especially bad news.

    • @brianalleyne8978
      @brianalleyne8978 3 месяца назад +1

      True. I don't know how the government allows these

    • @deplorablelibertarian
      @deplorablelibertarian 3 месяца назад

      My brother works in a unionized Honda plant in Ohio…he loves it for whatever reason. LOVES IT.

    • @katout75
      @katout75 3 месяца назад +1

      Vast majority of Japanese automakers in the US are not unionized and while using TPS and other quality systems maker superior quality cars and trucks to unionized workers at unionized factories. Toyota and Honda do not have unionized workers .

    • @waynemanning3262
      @waynemanning3262 3 месяца назад +3

      UAW is great! Except for the fact that most auto plants in the US are going broke!

  • @ronl2463
    @ronl2463 3 месяца назад +5

    And of course the totally unbiased UAW will tell you what’s wrong and then come to the rescue! Not, this is not a scripted presentation written and produced by the union bosses (the ones making the real money) is it? Have you ever noticed their buzzword every time without exception is “health and safety”.

    • @generator6946
      @generator6946 Месяц назад

      Tell me straight up you want the slaves back.
      Whatever it is you do for a living, if you’re making more than minimum wage and have any benefits you are getting too much!
      And when you are old and sore don’t you dare collect a dime of Social Security or Medicare!
      One more thing. The Bosses are who we work for. They most definitely don’t manage The Union!

  • @Warweazel
    @Warweazel 3 месяца назад +12

    Not to downplay what's happening in Rivian, but this is what it's like to work in any factory in America. The whole industry is fucked.

  • @alfaalex101
    @alfaalex101 3 месяца назад +7

    Bro. 20-30y ago you were making more than I was with a degree in nursing TODAY. Last time I worked in a car factory was 11y ago and it was $9/hr. Yep, car parts so hot they burned through your gloves and the bottom line was only production numbers (not QC).

    • @idiotsavant7276
      @idiotsavant7276 3 месяца назад

      Yeah.
      Adjusted for inflation using the cpi calculator, he was making $72.63 an hour 30 years ago.
      These UAW guys are a joke. They want primo money for low skill work. It’s literally color by numbers and you only have one number to color all day. It’s no wonder you often see UAW guys slamming beers and smoking weed in the parking lots on lunch. It’s a mindless job.

  • @donaldales7739
    @donaldales7739 3 месяца назад +7

    They are the 3rd largest employer in McLean county Illinois, not the 3rd largest auto manufacturer.....

  • @davidmeermans1579
    @davidmeermans1579 3 месяца назад +9

    Note to Rivian management: You invite the union by your actions. If you don't want the union, don't hand labor reasons to seek one. It's just that simple.

  • @DougGrinbergs
    @DougGrinbergs 3 месяца назад +13

    AFAIK Rivian makes Amazon delivery vans in Normal factory

    • @ADAPTATION7
      @ADAPTATION7 3 месяца назад

      Oddly, there's nothing normal about that factory.

  • @waterbuck
    @waterbuck 3 месяца назад +16

    Calling an Illinois plant a plant in the south is a bit misleading. Rivian isn't' long for this world. It's sales are tanking as few people are interested in a subpar unibody pickup truck that costs $100k.

    • @charlesjenkins8506
      @charlesjenkins8506 3 месяца назад +3

      I was going to say the same thing, I didn't think that central Illinois was now a part of the south. Even though a surprisingly high proportion of the people who live there speak with a drawl

    • @waterbuck
      @waterbuck 3 месяца назад

      @@charlesjenkins8506 Also it's about one of the most union friendly states in the country.

    • @ISureDont
      @ISureDont 3 месяца назад

      Not even close. Literally as high north as a state can get

    • @Imskyhighy
      @Imskyhighy 3 месяца назад

      As a black person who works here I agree. They make me do the same job every single day but anytime anybody else does they whine and complain that the job is tough. The hardest job on the line. And they slave me at it everyday. My group lead got fired so now I’m sure things will change

    • @indiecore-2022
      @indiecore-2022 3 месяца назад

      Were in central illinois, its about 120 miles south from downtown ​chiraq. 90 percent of the employees come from other states or chicago or theyre illegals. @ISureDont

  • @ismokemid
    @ismokemid 3 месяца назад +5

    I think ill just keep fixing my s10.
    Why pay almost 100k for a rolling battery that will be trash in 10 years.

  • @chihchang1139
    @chihchang1139 3 месяца назад +12

    All tech bros think "disruption" and "right now" because they have no experience to actually think deeply about their decisions, and the worst tech bros are the ones who actually drank their own koolaid and think that's a good thing. If you don't have experience except business ventures, you won't be able to think about how to actually build things and just focus on business venture metrics. Steven Jobs said that once your company is led by business marketing, and not the engineers, it's the beginning of the end for you.

  • @samuelbutterworth4303
    @samuelbutterworth4303 3 месяца назад +5

    By market capitalization and brand value, Rivian doesn't even show up in the top 25 in the world according to US News and Statistica. Putting a nut on a bolt or guiding a mechanized arm to put a dash in a car isn't worth the $80/hr+ total compensation UAW workers make. Remember, most auto assembly jobs can be replaced by robots and machines. With the most recent UAW contract, Ford and GM are saying that any more factories will be built in Mexico. Tesla is already building their next one there. So be glad you have any job.

    • @lightfox11
      @lightfox11 3 месяца назад

      Lol 80 an hr wtf

    • @vicpetrishak7705
      @vicpetrishak7705 3 месяца назад

      Robots will not buy automobiles ! Henry Ford learned this concept many years ago .

  • @michaelpolicella2588
    @michaelpolicella2588 3 месяца назад +28

    If a worker on the line complains about a part of the process the engineer for that section of the line should do the job first at least 2 hours. They don’t have line section engineers , then they are screwed.

    • @visby2548
      @visby2548 3 месяца назад

      I agree. One problem is there are always more problems than people available to fix them.

    • @indiecore-2022
      @indiecore-2022 3 месяца назад +1

      Bro, I saw the process when line calls would happen, they send the parts to PPG and have crackheads rework them. The engineers don't give a shit about the parts or how they work. There was 0 communication between the two companies, and they lost 1 billion dollars in 4th quarter and laid off 10 percent of management positions

  • @mind_of_a_darkhorse
    @mind_of_a_darkhorse 3 месяца назад +21

    In a perfect world, companies would collaborate with employees to ensure that everyone profits from the entire process. Nowadays, Companies are only concerned with the shareholders and the executives! They couldn't give two shits about the people actually building the stuff and creating the profits they so love!

    • @ISureDont
      @ISureDont 3 месяца назад

      The only way we’ll get anywhere close to that is by striking and unionizing. People are getting fed up. We’re all starting to crack. What would happen to those profits if every worker went on strike for a week? They can afford to pay us all a decent wage but refuse to unless they’re forced. We don’t even have capitalism anymore. We’re moving towards a techofuedalistic society. Where technology will be used to bind us into wage slavery. We have to refuse. We all have to say no more. It’s the only way

  • @bunyipdragon9499
    @bunyipdragon9499 3 месяца назад +21

    Gee what a suprise that Amazon is involved 😮

  • @gordonwardhaugh8266
    @gordonwardhaugh8266 3 месяца назад +2

    I've never seen such an unhealthy looking Workforce in my life

  • @crowonthepowerlines
    @crowonthepowerlines 3 месяца назад +4

    Engineers who don't listen to feedback from the people implementing their process are not real engineers.

    • @edthelazyboy
      @edthelazyboy 3 месяца назад

      The engineers might not have much say in how things are implemented. Often times, it is the management that have the final say in how things are to be done. Just look at Boeing and their 737 MAX fiasco.

  • @bera0014
    @bera0014 3 месяца назад +20

    Here's a list of modern western countries that don't offer worker safety nets, a decent minimum wage, no mandated annual leave and no sick leave....The USA. Best place in the world?

    • @SgtJoeSmith
      @SgtJoeSmith 3 месяца назад +5

      worker safety nets? like the ones china has between buildings for iphone slaves trying to jump off the roof? you have an iphone right?

    • @Moses_VII
      @Moses_VII 3 месяца назад +5

      ​@@SgtJoeSmith
      Where is Apple from? Who let Apple make phones in China?
      USA, USA, USA

    • @dudeonbike800
      @dudeonbike800 3 месяца назад +5

      @@Moses_VII
      FIFY:
      "Where is (insert name of US company here) from? Who let (company name here) make (product) in China?"
      Global capitalism and unregulated private enterprise brought us this reward, mostly started by Saint Reagan.

    • @deplorablelibertarian
      @deplorablelibertarian 3 месяца назад +3

      @@SgtJoeSmith…ask yourself who let apple make their products in china. Go look up the answer.

    • @deplorablelibertarian
      @deplorablelibertarian 3 месяца назад

      ⁠@@dudeonbike800…it’s saint reagans fault? Oh man, then why didn’t democrats fix everything when they had the house and senate for 2 years? Why didn’t your liberal uni-party make everything ALLLLL better?

  • @gregcook7900
    @gregcook7900 3 месяца назад +7

    We are in a World environment. BYD a Chinese company is the largest EV producer in the world. Our tariffs are keeping them out, but they will eventual come with lower priced vehicles. Tuff nut to crack. Can Unions lower the costs?

    • @ISureDont
      @ISureDont 3 месяца назад +4

      Happy workers produce more so it’s feasible. Electronic vehicles are currently unsustainable anyway. They keep pushing it but the grid can’t handle it. It would lead to more fossil fuel emissions anyway from increased electricity requirements. Lithium mining is super destructive as well. All the chemicals they’re dumping are terrible. It’s not a solution to our current problems yet it’s being treated as one because the ones that created the problems have a vested interest in selling the solutions as well. The only ones benefiting from all of this are the ones that hold the keys to production. We need cars to get to work but no one ever asks why we have to work. The whole system is broken and they tell us it’s our fault.

    • @wadewilson6628
      @wadewilson6628 3 месяца назад

      Oh good, more Chinese plastic crap in the US.

  • @infinitedonuts
    @infinitedonuts 3 месяца назад +3

    What’s crazy is they’re not even net income profitable right now and they’re giving management more stock options whilst screwing over workers

  • @SgtJoeSmith
    @SgtJoeSmith 3 месяца назад +4

    Do a story on how Cedar Valley has been buying all of its workers a new truck for 20 years

  • @JakeobE
    @JakeobE 3 месяца назад +16

    The bots are out in full force this week.

  • @MarlosCartinez
    @MarlosCartinez 3 месяца назад +5

    I worked at Rivian as a Sr. Vehicle Test Driver at the Toyota proving grounds in arizona. I traveled to the plant in normal twice. Ask me anything you want to know.

    • @amandahartter6023
      @amandahartter6023 3 месяца назад +4

      How do you think the condition are at the normal plant for their employees? I worked 10 hours shifts on edv line for 8 months. Unfortunately had to file my first work comp claim because I had to have restrictions to not be placed on the seat pedestal install. I'm 5 foot 127 lbs. The part weighs almost 40lbs. Lifting from a cart that for me is almost chest high. For 20/25 vans roughly before break. Needless to say my lower back is shot now. Oh and they fired me 30 days after another incident. I could go on and on. It sad because it could of been an amazing employer

    • @MarlosCartinez
      @MarlosCartinez 3 месяца назад +1

      I think the condition of the was plant hectic. It felt like a bomb just dropped and everyone was just scrambling around. I feel for you, it sucks that they made you do that and without any mechanical assistance to lift the parts to prevent you from being injured.

    • @TheoPhilpot
      @TheoPhilpot 3 месяца назад +1

      @@MarlosCartinez this constant scrambling was/is company wide imho

    • @MarlosCartinez
      @MarlosCartinez 3 месяца назад +1

      @@TheoPhilpot you are very correct. Its half informed, half baked ideas throughout the whole company

    • @TheoPhilpot
      @TheoPhilpot 3 месяца назад +1

      @@MarlosCartinez and from experience when people have good ideas that need to move swiftly, they’re delayed in perpetuity by layers of middle management

  • @exmotech
    @exmotech 3 месяца назад +2

    But on the other side: if you don't like your current job, just leave and get a new one. Look at it from another perspective... You have an idea, you raise funds to make it come true and suddenly some workers tell you how to run your own project? This is the problem with unions that they want to run the businesses they don't own. Fortunately it's a thing of the past.

  • @onelife3345
    @onelife3345 3 месяца назад +2

    This is the condition in every factory iv ever worked in.

  • @jeffreycheng5984
    @jeffreycheng5984 3 месяца назад +6

    "The Federal Reserve System is not Federal; it has no reserves, and is not even a system at all. But rather an international criminal syndicate."- Eustace Mullins.

    • @TheAmericanAmerican
      @TheAmericanAmerican 3 месяца назад

      Allow me to speed run ur journey to the truth: Capitalism. That's it. The Federal Reserve is just one of MANY banking institutions that are beholden to the global economic system we call Capitalism. Ya wanna find the root of 99% of the problems we have on this planet? Just follow the trail to where the profit is being made. That's it. No shadowy figures in a smokey backroom pulling the strings. It's just the maximization of profit by ANY means necessary motive.

  • @patrickthurs5342
    @patrickthurs5342 3 месяца назад +4

    You know where the door is.

  • @juanmariaiglesias8079
    @juanmariaiglesias8079 3 месяца назад +2

    I was thinking of buying a Rivian. NO WAY!

  • @thatguy7085
    @thatguy7085 2 месяца назад +1

    He thought $30 hr was good money… and Rivon is paying less… wow.

  • @TheTamaleWhisperer
    @TheTamaleWhisperer 3 месяца назад +4

    I am glad I am self employeed and have great pay and benefits.

  • @beastfromtheeast9318
    @beastfromtheeast9318 3 месяца назад +3

    Reminds me of when I was a machine operator for PepsiCo. Crash course training and dangerous equipment

  • @chrisgoetsch1964
    @chrisgoetsch1964 Месяц назад +1

    I would like to see a piece on why there is so much push by power companies to destroy off grid living

  • @markadler8968
    @markadler8968 3 месяца назад +1

    Moral of the story. Don't allow yourself to be in a situation where you have to rely on one of these companies for employment.

  • @suddeneye9836
    @suddeneye9836 3 месяца назад +6

    Dammit. Rivian had years before production to study the mistakes of Tesla. The fact that they shot themselves in the foot right out of the gate is sad. But that workers are getting this kind of treatment breaks my heart.

    • @magicslots6405
      @magicslots6405 3 месяца назад

      Tesla safety is pretty horrible too

  • @lwells3937
    @lwells3937 3 месяца назад +20

    This company sounds like One big abusive family that Dr. Phil couldn't fix

  • @TheTamaleWhisperer
    @TheTamaleWhisperer 3 месяца назад +2

    Learning at the expense of someone's health? Said a guy with a double chin.

  • @dustin612
    @dustin612 2 месяца назад +1

    The only place left that has great benefits and a pension is the federal government

  • @terrancewilson6349
    @terrancewilson6349 3 месяца назад +5

    Please do a story on Florida State Bill 256 (The Union Busting Bill.)

  • @Just1nHale
    @Just1nHale 3 месяца назад +6

    I simply cannot understand how these people can't grasp how unions have DECIMATED the auto industry! Now, of course, they're all union or ex-union workers so it's in their best interests.

  • @blazingnoscopes548
    @blazingnoscopes548 3 месяца назад +1

    I was a forklift driver in a normal warehouse for rivian. Everyone is smoking blunts on there breaks, hitting dab pins while driving, blasting music, using there phone.. all while driving a forklift. It’s fun

    • @dancarlton7973
      @dancarlton7973 3 месяца назад +1

      I wouldn't want to use a phone while using a forklift. It's dangerous and too distracting.

    • @b_wellyn
      @b_wellyn 3 месяца назад

      @@dancarlton7973 nah it's fun

  • @quantumphaser
    @quantumphaser Месяц назад +1

    When I worked for Lockheed Martin, back in the 90s, one Christmas our bonus check was $11.08 each, it was a VERY GOOD year for profits.
    The managers and uppers all got new BMW 3, 5 and 7 series depending on how big of a douchebag they were.

  • @wcjerky
    @wcjerky 3 месяца назад +35

    TL;DW: Rivian makes awful products. Worse than their products is their care towards their skilled staff.
    Good working people of Normal, though.

    • @wisdomcoffee
      @wisdomcoffee 3 месяца назад +3

      What’s wrong with their products? My neighbor just bought their truck and first I’d heard of them

    • @DriveElectricWithDomenick
      @DriveElectricWithDomenick 3 месяца назад +4

      They make some of the best vehicles in the US today and have the highest owner satisfaction rating of any automaker.

    • @ButtTrumpet100
      @ButtTrumpet100 3 месяца назад +3

      I'm a very happy owner. The truck is great

    • @tylerhunt7552
      @tylerhunt7552 3 месяца назад

      Decent design. Quality materials and parts. How those parts are installed is a completely different story. All manual processes that aren't set up like a factory is supposed to be, equals parts constantly being banged around and very rough installs. I can't imagine it's great for electronics to get banged around like that and I suspect that will lead to quite the increase in warranty repairs being done on "defective" parts.

    • @indiecore-2022
      @indiecore-2022 3 месяца назад

      Bro their staff is a mix of ex cons, addicts, out of state and illegals. It's not the 'good working people of normal'. There are some people from normal but 90 percent of the staff is not from this area and they do not give 2 fucks about their jobs

  • @99sentcoins
    @99sentcoins 3 месяца назад +4

    When one takes a job and later finds out its unsafe / unhealthy, its on them if they stay.
    If they leave and talk about it, I'll listen.
    If they stay and talk about it, I dont want to hear a word of it.

  • @Aspiired
    @Aspiired 3 месяца назад +4

    Sad to say this is becoming the norm with a lot of companies

    • @gordonwardhaugh8266
      @gordonwardhaugh8266 3 месяца назад

      Where are the young just out of high school youthful workers ? Did rivian hire old fat and sickly workers cuz that's all I see in this video

  • @knowledgeispower6192
    @knowledgeispower6192 2 месяца назад +1

    If you think the exact same things aren't happening in factories making internal combustion engine vehicles, you're only fooling yourself.

  • @lightfox11
    @lightfox11 3 месяца назад +5

    The union lost them all their jobs at Mitsubishi and they still haven't learned their lesson

  • @mysterium364
    @mysterium364 3 месяца назад +4

    5:28 in what world is northern Illinois the south?

    • @dingbop963
      @dingbop963 3 месяца назад

      The factory is not in northern Illinois

  • @NotsoGreat36
    @NotsoGreat36 3 месяца назад

    Calling employees family is how they make workers feel guilty for asking for a livable wage.

  • @frankgrabasse4642
    @frankgrabasse4642 3 месяца назад +8

    You might have to pay more, but you can actually find people that know what they are doing in the manufacturing engineering field.

  • @Victic005
    @Victic005 3 месяца назад +4

    Union won't help.

    • @travisolander4749
      @travisolander4749 Месяц назад

      Yes it will.

    • @Victic005
      @Victic005 Месяц назад

      @@travisolander4749 right, and they are doing so well now. 😆

  • @chucky187
    @chucky187 3 месяца назад +11

    Don't work for non-Union shops. These "start ups" are the worst because, they know jack shit about manufacturing cars.

    • @adam33555
      @adam33555 3 месяца назад

      Yeah tell that to tesla who sells 2 million cars a year now and never unionized

    • @chucky187
      @chucky187 2 месяца назад +1

      @@adam33555 Also, the worst reliablity of any vehicle on the road. Tesla is a piece of shit, hell they can't even get the paint to match.

  • @shelbynamels7948
    @shelbynamels7948 3 месяца назад

    The flip side is that executives like the Rivian CEO wouldn't dream of working without a contract.

  • @reynaldodizon6563
    @reynaldodizon6563 3 месяца назад +5

    Once you unionize, the company will go bankcrupt.

  • @0ooDT
    @0ooDT 3 месяца назад +19

    We shouldn't be moving to EVs (slave labor to produce lithium and then what happens to the batteries after the cars die or get tossed?). I'm also not saying we should keep making gas guzzling cars. What we NEED is pedestrian first architecture, 15min cities, SHRINK PEOPLE"S DAILY ECOSYSTEMS. From this we no longer need to depend on cars, we'll have world class public transportation and services for those who cannot use said transportation. Hell, bike and walk if you can!

    • @ZentaBon
      @ZentaBon 3 месяца назад +4

      HELL YES LET'S MAKE CARS OPTIONAL!!!!!! Drivers win too because the only people who are on the road are people who need or really want to be on the road!

    • @KingJon513
      @KingJon513 3 месяца назад +7

      Not everyone wants to live on top of each other in dense cities. I like my yard space. I also like the freedom and comfort that comes with car ownership. It's also difficult to walk or bike in freezing Temps and snow on the ground.

    • @EpicGamer-hn5cy
      @EpicGamer-hn5cy 3 месяца назад +1

      @@KingJon513 Cars won't disappear, you just won't be forced to buy one to access basic necessities like groceries, education, etc. Walkable cities aren't a ploy to turn the world into a globalist dictatorship, lay off whatever you're snorting.

    • @nicklang7670
      @nicklang7670 3 месяца назад

      Suburbia is subsidized. Car-centrism costs America more than 4 trillion a year.@@KingJon513

    • @ZentaBon
      @ZentaBon 3 месяца назад +2

      @@KingJon513 thats the best part! We both get the freedom to choose. You would never be forced to live anywhere you didn't want to. Driving on roads for you when visiting the city would be less congested and traffic less dense and annoying because people like myself would prefer to not own a car if I don't need to because of the cost. That means someone like me won't be on the road for you to deal with in terms of traffic. I have bus stops close by but no buses service them. I want the actual option available to have viable and reliable transportation without requiring a car like in Japan.

  • @nigelcarren
    @nigelcarren 3 месяца назад +1

    Genuine question: Can you buy one of these outright or is it more like you lease the vehicle but rent the battery?
    Thank you 🇬🇧👍🇺🇲

  • @Maebbie
    @Maebbie 3 месяца назад +1

    I hope the factory workers see this and they make a union in one quick go. They cant just replace everyone at once, the power is with the people.

  • @jaimebaca9439
    @jaimebaca9439 3 месяца назад +7

    I got an idea. Start your own car company and pay the wages you think are fair. I’ll wait here.

  • @pascalbruyere7108
    @pascalbruyere7108 3 месяца назад +5

    Nothing to do with EV, it’s just new brands starting something new without unions. Could be bicycles or washing machines…

  • @scorproy123
    @scorproy123 3 месяца назад +2

    Bezos can lose 90billion worth of shares inly because he liked a different set of holes.

  • @rogerbec5766
    @rogerbec5766 3 месяца назад +3

    Rivian is still in business? I thought they had declared bankruptcy.

    • @paraglidingprospector
      @paraglidingprospector 3 месяца назад +2

      I think you’re referring to Nikola Motors.
      Rivians are all over the place here in Arizona and they’re thriving too. This video is likely propaganda, sponsored by “the other guy”.
      Proud to have an electric truck manufacturer here in Arizona and my goodness they’re great looking too!
      This video had me uncheck that little bell… this channel should try to focus on the positive and ground-breaking achievements accomplished by Rivian rather than hyper-focusing on their trials and tribulations…
      Let’s not forget the great bail-out of the petroleum-powered vehicle industry not too long ago. Remember when ALL of the major auto manufacturers in the USA needed a hand-out???
      Folks… try to name one other electric truck and SUV manufacturer who is this far ahead of the competition.
      This is some poor journalism if you ask me.
      They outa look into the electric vehicle company pushed by Heavy D Sparks and why they’ve failed to bring a vehicle to market. What’s up with Nikola’s CEO???
      There are plenty of bad electric vehicle manufacturers out there, but Rivian isn’t one of them.
      Something is amiss with this “reporting”.

    • @rogerbec5766
      @rogerbec5766 3 месяца назад +3

      @@paraglidingprospector - I sincerely wish Rivian a great success. Thanks.

    • @paraglidingprospector
      @paraglidingprospector 3 месяца назад +2

      @@rogerbec5766 Same here! Hope to be able to buy one someday too. I like @JerryRigsEverything on RUclips. He compares the electric Hummer to a Rivian, with a fully-loaded trailer, and in the snow too. He uses the Rivian to haul the Hummer and the other way around too. 🤣 Spoiler alert: he likes the Rivian a LOT.

  • @possiblycurryddork
    @possiblycurryddork 3 месяца назад +3

    I will be surprised if Rivian does not go bankrupt. Their loses per vehicle grew from 30k to 40k per vehicle delivered in just one quarter.

  • @ethxo6734
    @ethxo6734 3 месяца назад +3

    OSHA isn’t respected and certainly doesn’t have any authority if they have visited 20+ times and nothing has changed.
    OSHA just collects a fine and turns the other cheek.

  • @BearKat9
    @BearKat9 3 месяца назад +1

    As a Rivian owner, Im very disappointed in Rivian

  • @TerreHauteRemoteGoat
    @TerreHauteRemoteGoat 3 месяца назад +2

    Another vote for investgating Southern California Edison. They manipulate customer usage data for their benefit and have done so for years.

  • @1176hambone
    @1176hambone 3 месяца назад +1

    "Amazon" is all i needed to hear.

  • @Shteven
    @Shteven 3 месяца назад

    $30/hr in the 90's would be like $70/hr today. The minimum wage equivalent of the 70's would be $127/hr.

  • @timmosley3331
    @timmosley3331 24 дня назад

    That guy is right, we earned more 25 years ago and not only that but the dollar had more value back then

  • @user-yc6co9vo8r
    @user-yc6co9vo8r 3 месяца назад

    I hope this video foe completely viral so people can understand the horrors in an ev factory.

  • @TheKnifed
    @TheKnifed 3 месяца назад

    I repair commercial cooking equipment for $30 an hour, I couldn't tell you how many times I've had to argue with various people that "the way it should be" isn't "the way it is." It's especially funny when I get to send pictures and videos to a manufacturer proving what I'm telling them, video calls are pretty fun.

  • @misspatvandriverlady7555
    @misspatvandriverlady7555 3 месяца назад +1

    I recently switched from being a school van driver to being a paratransit driver. We had a couple days of safety training where we watched videos speaking derisively of “risk-takers”; the people not driving safely. I thought to myself, “Anyone who drives for a living is a risk-taker! Have you SEEN how some people out there DRIVE?!?!”. Of course we aren’t unionized. We do apparently get a couple benefits after a year, though. We’ll see. 🤔

  • @user-nu8in3ey8c
    @user-nu8in3ey8c 3 месяца назад

    A lot of states de-unionized their police and corrections as well, and now they have extreme difficulties in attracting people to work in these fields because there are fewer training opportunities, fewer benefits, and lower pay. Another thing to be wary of is weak unions: when a company diversifies its income enough, the union has a lot less bargaining power.

  • @travisolander4749
    @travisolander4749 Месяц назад

    Blame our corrupt congress and judicial system.
    This won’t stop until politicians who take corporate profits are scared.

  • @brettharman8921
    @brettharman8921 3 месяца назад +1

    what we have heard has been said by workers since day one of the USA-

  • @GreyRock100
    @GreyRock100 3 месяца назад +4

    Normal stuff. Just make as much money as possible, no matter what it takes.

    • @johnsutherland7561
      @johnsutherland7561 3 месяца назад

      Rivian is loosing boat loads. Titanic size boats

    • @GreyRock100
      @GreyRock100 3 месяца назад

      @@johnsutherland7561 Good

    • @Bob-bs9ok
      @Bob-bs9ok 3 месяца назад

      Then the same applies to the workers, yes? They should also try to make as much money as possible and use whatever tactics possible, from walk outs to factory takeovers, to make as much as possible.

    • @GreyRock100
      @GreyRock100 3 месяца назад

      @@Bob-bs9ok I agree. Now, I'd like to see a job market where these things were not necessary because people were negotiating and working together. But that is not how it is, so I am totally in favor of employees doing whatever to leverage more pay and better working conditions.

  • @magikindian
    @magikindian 3 месяца назад +1

    These people want money but they not willing to risk their life to get it. So entitled.

  • @Prosecute-fauci
    @Prosecute-fauci 3 месяца назад +1

    You can say goodbye to that rivian factory and all of the jobs that they provided.

  • @SuperKillroy1
    @SuperKillroy1 12 дней назад

    UAW has pulled so many shenanigans that it's hard to trust them.