"It was me, Barry! I pretended to be a woman and married your father so I could give birth do you and then raised you for years, JUST so I could reveal myself now! MUA HA Haha ha ha ha!" "Wait... what?"
In his classic origin, the reason Thawne had no one because he used time travel to get rid of them all, viewing them as distractions to become who he is.
Not just distraction, outright obstacles. His brother was a problem so he got rid of him. His friend was a problem so he got rid of em too. This piled up and up.
Me: "Reverse Flash relentlessly torments Flash worse even than Joker does to Batman. Surely his reason for loathing Flash must be something truly terrifying!" Thawne: "You said something nice to me, but then you said it to someone else!" Me: "... What?!"
My thoughts exactly like he has to be completely mental for that to actually affect him that deeply. I understand his morality is messed up but this is full on obsessive behavior. He wore yellow cause he knew all his partners wore yellow yet he is upset that Barry used a quote that inspired him to inspire them both?? I dunno this feels very contrived to just give Zoom a reason to hate him and that completely wrecks Zoom for me.
@@cameronbooker7741Honestly, hot take, I think Mr. Incredible could've handled that situation better when Syndrome was a kid.......but Syndrome DEFINITELY could've handled that situation better, almost no question. Not condoning Syndrome here, but I wish Mr. I would've let him down easier. It probably would've helped. 😞
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@@Six3rdy Yeah. Always handle your fans who are geniuses with kid gloves or they might one day become your worse nemesis. Treat your other fans who have no potential of being geniuses or gaining any power as anybody else.
I'm with you mostly. Though I'd personally treat everyone sincerely (I don't quite view it as kid gloves particularly, because I believe we ALL need compassion at many walks of life, even in correction; makes the correction easier to digest).
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@@Six3rdy Some people demand more like they want to be treated as if they're your girlfriend /wife or best friend because they spent a fortune and effort just to please you. They think they deserve the abundance of sentimental value because they know everything about you like your favorite food or pets and your personal time.
So he’s always been crazy. He caused himself to get the speed force and was tired of constant peace. He then blamed Barry for putting him in jail and even tried rehabilitation…makes sense in terms of the story but idk why he’s actually evil. He then gets upset because Barry actually loves kid flash as family? What a werid story
that the thing Eobard is meant to be a message of a toxic fan and how they act he tries to copy his hero than stopping to realize his mistakes like most toxic fans who try to do stuff to get well known or famous than realizing how it might make others feel plus they feel betrayed when the person they look up to feels like own them giving the fact Eobard refused to stop and think why Barry was talking with Wally and the fact Eobard ruined his own life than admitting any fault in his actions much like toxic fans who blame their idol for ruinning their loved series or movie despite the fact reboots and remakes have to happen to keep things fresh
the thing is, he is a narcissist, a true, deep narcissist and he cant be all alone, later on the story he admits he did it because all of it was the only time barry would ever spend with thawne
The moral of the story is that in spite of massive future technology, literally EVERYONE in the future is stupid and can't tell whether someone is reformed or not but is happy to put him in charge of ludicrously powerful weaponry.
@@aldobanuelos6614 No some people are just too dangerous to be allowed to live. Like I remember reading about a serial killer years ago, he tried to have witnesses killed from inside prison and actually partially suceeded. He was found guilty and the judge sentenced him to death partly on the grounds that nobody who had crossed him would ever be truly safe as long as he remained alive even if he was locked up (well that and he killed like 10 people already)
Zoom can't do whatever he wants, truth is, He can never kill Barry Allen. If he did, then even though Eobard would still be alive, The Reverse Flash would never come into existence.
8:15 Honestly at this point I’m thinking Reverse Flash was in love with him romantically. “What we had wasn’t real?!” Nah man… Friendship isn’t that kinky.
I'm less and less sure of this every second, but aren't reverse flash and professor zoom different people? Reverse flash being eobard thawne for barry allen, and professor zoom being hunter zolomon for wally west?
On a different note: I would like to have been a fly on the wall during the brainstorming session that resulted in a supervillain who calls himself the 'reverse' of the superhero he hates. If I despised some dude named Alexander, I'm sure as heck not going to call myself, 'reverse' Alexander.
Reverse flash said fuck bearing the crap out if him I’m just going to mess up your love life 💀the levels this guy has gone through to hate on Barry needs to be studied.💀💀
I like time travel stories, but I think I am learning to hate time travel retcon stories. Didn't we already have reasons for Flash and Reverse Flash to despise each other?
The New 52 I remember when Crisis killed Flash I was heartbroken. They bring him back and it’s new different. DC really change I’m glad The Watchmen are now in fold to with DCU .
Reverse flash activates his power! The people and things became blurs. He shut down his powers and the sun was a giant red wall that filled the sky! Shortly Reverse flash's suit burst into flames as he asphyxiated in the atmosphere of a long dead planet!
This entire thing is premised upon Thawne being so monumentally stupid that he interprets Barry’s statement as a unique thing shared between them, as opposed to the principle by which his life is governed? The guy who knows everything about the flash comes to the conclusion that his hero stating the same thing multiple times is somehow him being disingenuous, as opposed to him having enshrined it as a core tenet of his life? I don’t know whether this is painting Thawne as an idiot or a writing flaw.
To be fair... if we take the things the Professor says here to be true, he's right. Flash NEVER prioritizes his loved ones. He produces children who hate him. He has subsumed his regular identity so much that in one comic even when Lex Luthor found out who he was, Barry Allen was so anonymous that it was meaningless to him. Yes, he's saving the world, but presumably the world was in danger before him and it will be after him. If he gives up his entire life to that pursuit then he will, in the end, have given up his entire life. And yes, Barry doesn't tell Iris to 'protect' her, but isn't that infantilizing her? Isn't there some point where she gets to be treated as an adult and make the decision herself? Maybe she would surprise Barry and be an ally instead of a dependent... but he never gives her the chance. There is a lesson that Flash could learn and be a better person thereby.
Reverse flash was aways the weakest of the enemies in terms of writing for me, the dumbest reason to turn evil as well, almost kinda shoved down fans' throats just because someone wanted to make hin flash enemy at all costs, the tv show was never really good because of that. Reverse Flash needs to be remade from zero starting with hes back story.
"It's too late" You know what's never late? The end. What's never to early? Change. It's never too late until it ends. And it's never too early to change.
Meet the Robinson is the best story about the future... Just a simple solution... "I will never created you" poof turn back to normal.. 😂..... Just a simple as that..
It was me Barry, I spoiled the milk in your refrigerator.
It was me Barry I ate all the cereal and put the empty box back in the cabinet
It was me Barry. I put the toilet paper roll on the wall, backwards!
"It was me, Barry! I pretended to be a woman and married your father so I could give birth do you and then raised you for years, JUST so I could reveal myself now! MUA HA Haha ha ha ha!"
"Wait... what?"
I mean, if he took the milk from a week earlier, wouldn't have not actually expired yet?
@@Femaiden But its date would look expired causing Barry to discard perfectly good milk.
In his classic origin, the reason Thawne had no one because he used time travel to get rid of them all, viewing them as distractions to become who he is.
Not just distraction, outright obstacles.
His brother was a problem so he got rid of him.
His friend was a problem so he got rid of em too.
This piled up and up.
Not originally
Go read his first appearance
Me: "Reverse Flash relentlessly torments Flash worse even than Joker does to Batman. Surely his reason for loathing Flash must be something truly terrifying!"
Thawne: "You said something nice to me, but then you said it to someone else!"
Me: "... What?!"
me?
@@Mr.bigheadRetro As in, these are my thoughts when I first read this comic. "Me" means me!
Nice name💕☺️
@ You mean Daxyl? Thank you. I came up with it randomly one day.
My thoughts exactly like he has to be completely mental for that to actually affect him that deeply. I understand his morality is messed up but this is full on obsessive behavior.
He wore yellow cause he knew all his partners wore yellow yet he is upset that Barry used a quote that inspired him to inspire them both?? I dunno this feels very contrived to just give Zoom a reason to hate him and that completely wrecks Zoom for me.
So Thawne is literally Buddy from Mr Incredible, a Scorned Fan Boy.
Yep. The Syndrome (hope the spelling is correct) of the DC Universe.
@@cameronbooker7741Honestly, hot take, I think Mr. Incredible could've handled that situation better when Syndrome was a kid.......but Syndrome DEFINITELY could've handled that situation better, almost no question.
Not condoning Syndrome here, but I wish Mr. I would've let him down easier. It probably would've helped. 😞
@@Six3rdy Yeah. Always handle your fans who are geniuses with kid gloves or they might one day become your worse nemesis. Treat your other fans who have no potential of being geniuses or gaining any power as anybody else.
I'm with you mostly. Though I'd personally treat everyone sincerely (I don't quite view it as kid gloves particularly, because I believe we ALL need compassion at many walks of life, even in correction; makes the correction easier to digest).
@@Six3rdy Some people demand more like they want to be treated as if they're your girlfriend /wife or best friend because they spent a fortune and effort just to please you. They think they deserve the abundance of sentimental value because they know everything about you like your favorite food or pets and your personal time.
Eobard Thawne is literally the worst celebrity stalker of all time. Nothing more, nothing less.
You could also say he's like a Yandere. At first he was like "Senpai noticed me!" and then later "If I can't have senpai no one will!"
Reverse flash pettiness put every single dc villains in shame.
So he’s always been crazy. He caused himself to get the speed force and was tired of constant peace. He then blamed Barry for putting him in jail and even tried rehabilitation…makes sense in terms of the story but idk why he’s actually evil. He then gets upset because Barry actually loves kid flash as family? What a werid story
that the thing Eobard is meant to be a message of a toxic fan and how they act he tries to copy his hero than stopping to realize his mistakes like most toxic fans who try to do stuff to get well known or famous than realizing how it might make others feel plus they feel betrayed when the person they look up to feels like own them giving the fact Eobard refused to stop and think why Barry was talking with Wally and the fact Eobard ruined his own life than admitting any fault in his actions much like toxic fans who blame their idol for ruinning their loved series or movie despite the fact reboots and remakes have to happen to keep things fresh
the thing is, he is a narcissist, a true, deep narcissist and he cant be all alone, later on the story he admits he did it because all of it was the only time barry would ever spend with thawne
The moral of the story is that in spite of massive future technology, literally EVERYONE in the future is stupid and can't tell whether someone is reformed or not but is happy to put him in charge of ludicrously powerful weaponry.
He won't kill Zoom because Iris won't let him, and Zoom will be free to do whatever he wants forever... These stories are too cliché and boring!
Punisher is probably right up your alley buddy
@@aldobanuelos6614 No some people are just too dangerous to be allowed to live. Like I remember reading about a serial killer years ago, he tried to have witnesses killed from inside prison and actually partially suceeded. He was found guilty and the judge sentenced him to death partly on the grounds that nobody who had crossed him would ever be truly safe as long as he remained alive even if he was locked up (well that and he killed like 10 people already)
Too be fair has killing Zoom or Thawne (I can’t keep track) ever stopped him before? The guy just keeps coming back no matter what.
Zoom can't do whatever he wants, truth is, He can never kill Barry Allen. If he did, then even though Eobard would still be alive, The Reverse Flash would never come into existence.
Even if he killed Zoom, he just come back because he’s a living paradox
8:15 Honestly at this point I’m thinking Reverse Flash was in love with him romantically.
“What we had wasn’t real?!”
Nah man… Friendship isn’t that kinky.
So... Eobard is just insane, how about we just accept that and get rid of him?
One problem with that. He's now a paradox.
the "villain's reason". something people shouldn't worry, but nowadays everyone seens like to be fascinated with this question.
I'm less and less sure of this every second, but aren't reverse flash and professor zoom different people? Reverse flash being eobard thawne for barry allen, and professor zoom being hunter zolomon for wally west?
It would be interesting if because of time travel he said it to Eobard first and then Wally
Sorry but reverse flash’s back story sounds like it was written by an author an hour before it was due
It could be true.
so the reason he hates the flash is petty stupid bullshit
It's hilariously pathetic. If I was Barry I'm gone and he's not existing.
On a different note:
I would like to have been a fly on the wall during the brainstorming session that resulted in a supervillain who calls himself the 'reverse' of the superhero he hates.
If I despised some dude named Alexander, I'm sure as heck not going to call myself, 'reverse' Alexander.
Indeed…
*_Red Naxela!_*
Reverse flash said fuck bearing the crap out if him I’m just going to mess up your love life 💀the levels this guy has gone through to hate on Barry needs to be studied.💀💀
Thawne has done... *many* things to barry to fuck with him, that some would consider... *unnatural*
wait....he was upset because of that!!!? seriously!?
All that power, and he uses it to act like like a jilted lover. Pathetic.
All Thawne had to do was approach Barry when he first came to the present instead of stalking and watching himself get """"replaced""""
bro what Thawne even expects when they are not even living in the same time
so when did dc start hiring spidermans writers?
Eboard Thawne was the first "Stan" before Eminem had a "Stan".
I like time travel stories, but I think I am learning to hate time travel retcon stories. Didn't we already have reasons for Flash and Reverse Flash to despise each other?
It would be cool if they did this in the flash show in one of the previous seasons but with matt letscher as eobard instead of Tom cavanagh
Awesome as always thanks ❤️
The New 52 I remember when Crisis killed Flash I was heartbroken. They bring him back and it’s new different. DC really change I’m glad The Watchmen are now in fold to with DCU .
I thought that Barry and iris kids names were Bart and nora
Reverse flash activates his power! The people and things became blurs. He shut down his powers and the sun was a giant red wall that filled the sky! Shortly Reverse flash's suit burst into flames as he asphyxiated in the atmosphere of a long dead planet!
I bet he stepped on the bee.
*Good video!*
How many times was his perspective about to change?
IT WAS YOU BARRY ALL ALONG!!!!
Wow, thnx! This explains exactly a lot of not anything at all.
Just a question, with tryna give any future spoilers, but are you gonnna cover the Flash "Forgiveness Arc"?
Hi, of course I'm going to upload it, I just don't know when, I do my best to upload as many videos as time allows me with my real job.
Why do they all look bald when they put their cowls on?
For the same reason he can fit his entire suit inside a teeny cavity in his ring.
soo this is y thawne thought nora was dawn
I think reverse flash has the biggest hate Boner for his counterpart of any superhero/super villain duo.
This is the weakest reason to be a bad guy ever. Bro just wanted to be evil and needed a reason 😂
This entire thing is premised upon Thawne being so monumentally stupid that he interprets Barry’s statement as a unique thing shared between them, as opposed to the principle by which his life is governed? The guy who knows everything about the flash comes to the conclusion that his hero stating the same thing multiple times is somehow him being disingenuous, as opposed to him having enshrined it as a core tenet of his life? I don’t know whether this is painting Thawne as an idiot or a writing flaw.
To be fair... if we take the things the Professor says here to be true, he's right. Flash NEVER prioritizes his loved ones. He produces children who hate him. He has subsumed his regular identity so much that in one comic even when Lex Luthor found out who he was, Barry Allen was so anonymous that it was meaningless to him. Yes, he's saving the world, but presumably the world was in danger before him and it will be after him. If he gives up his entire life to that pursuit then he will, in the end, have given up his entire life. And yes, Barry doesn't tell Iris to 'protect' her, but isn't that infantilizing her? Isn't there some point where she gets to be treated as an adult and make the decision herself? Maybe she would surprise Barry and be an ally instead of a dependent... but he never gives her the chance.
There is a lesson that Flash could learn and be a better person thereby.
Confused so eboard thawne: professor zoom: the reverse flash all together?
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@ took a full minute to process what I just saw 🤣 why would they make it so complicated!! Thanks for sharing tho it helped clarified it
@sengheyik9183 one word retcons
Reverse flash was aways the weakest of the enemies in terms of writing for me, the dumbest reason to turn evil as well, almost kinda shoved down fans' throats just because someone wanted to make hin flash enemy at all costs, the tv show was never really good because of that. Reverse Flash needs to be remade from zero starting with hes back story.
You want a mind screw- try mapping the Thawne/Allen family tree across a millennium or so. Almost as bad as the Summers/Grey family. 😅
Reverse flash is the trouble maker
why are you a villain my favorite hero said the same thing to someone else lmao
Eobard.... is that even a real british /american name ?
no, the whole point is that it's a name from the future
Do part two.?
Never meet your hero
part two please...?
What a loser the fact that every second is a gift every time you reflect on that its a gift.
one of reason why thawne is evil because of negetive speed force
No its just because he is naturally evil and weird
Proofread more, I guess?
I tried but the plot is too irritating
"It's too late"
You know what's never late? The end. What's never to early? Change.
It's never too late until it ends. And it's never too early to change.
If Eobard thought that but nooooooo, he had to jerk barry off at super speed.
So he is just a parasocial fan and psychopath...
Meet the Robinson is the best story about the future...
Just a simple solution... "I will never created you" poof turn back to normal.. 😂.....
Just a simple as that..
Complacent heroes kill just as many as the villains they let live.
Reverse Flash always comes back. But Barry is his fixed point, all Barry needs to do is die so that Eobard dies.
These comics are so dumb.
This story sucks. Sorry