It's heartbreaking that he just tells everyone else "bye", except for his mother... She hugs him and he turns to look at her. For some reason I think it's because he wants to memorize his mother, in case he won't come back. And when you know he dies... It's just... I can't. Shows the love between a son and a mother.
he was one my favorite characters outside of Antti/Rokka. this scene by the way, was not in my English version of movie. koskela has that quiet humility and self-sacrificing integrity which I admire so much in a man.
@@mr.c6324 The series also didn't have some scenes shown in the original extended cut of the movie, which was a bit weird and also disappointing considering the total runtime of the series way outlasts the original Finnish cut.
Disappointing to see the way they portrayed Vilhos father here. Like the writers never opened Väinö Linnas books. Akseli Koskela was immensely proud of his sons in the front and even toyed with the idea of going with them. That was an important point of his character arc. Here he is just rendered as a spiteful old man…
Pelkkänä TV-elokuvana tuo on ihan hyvä kuvaus Koskelan lähdöstä sotaan, sitoo hänen hahmonsa vaikka siihen juppottelu kohtaukseen ja muutenkin hänen läheiseen suhteeseen miehistöön.
@@psynque Kyllä, mutta ois pitäny paremmin kuvata perhettä jos oot kahtonu täällä pohjantähden alla niin koskelan isä on ihan eri persoona ja täysin eri näköinenkin muuten kyllä 5/5 lehva
@@DayOfTheRope Juu mutta valtaosa tämän elokuvan katsoneista ei ole lukenut Pohjatähteä. Jos tässä olisi kuvattu Akseli vanhat vihat unohtaneena ei Vilhon käytös olisi osunut ollenkaan. Tietysti kirjojen kokonaisuudessa se nivoutuu yhteen mutta ei 90 minuutin elokuvassa.
It’s so nice that they included these characters from Koskela’s family. The father shown here is actually the main character in a separate trilogy of books.
It isn’t 😀. As half tavastian, half Karelian I can tell you that Karelians are very talkative but tavastians are not quiet either. Karelians show more feelings, tavastians rather not, and that’s why they are quiet in this scene. Too many feelings.
It's heartbreaking that he just tells everyone else "bye", except for his mother... She hugs him and he turns to look at her. For some reason I think it's because he wants to memorize his mother, in case he won't come back. And when you know he dies... It's just... I can't. Shows the love between a son and a mother.
he was one my favorite characters outside of Antti/Rokka. this scene by the way, was not in my English version of movie.
koskela has that quiet humility and self-sacrificing integrity which I admire so much in a man.
Yeah this scene was only on the series made of tuntematon sotilas. I highly recommend! Manu scenes which arent included in movie are there
This scene was in the longer 5 part series.
@@mr.c6324 The series also didn't have some scenes shown in the original extended cut of the movie, which was a bit weird and also disappointing considering the total runtime of the series way outlasts the original Finnish cut.
Disappointing to see the way they portrayed Vilhos father here. Like the writers never opened Väinö Linnas books. Akseli Koskela was immensely proud of his sons in the front and even toyed with the idea of going with them. That was an important point of his character arc. Here he is just rendered as a spiteful old man…
Yep and he wasnt as red anymore back then.
Pelkkänä TV-elokuvana tuo on ihan hyvä kuvaus Koskelan lähdöstä sotaan, sitoo hänen hahmonsa vaikka siihen juppottelu kohtaukseen ja muutenkin hänen läheiseen suhteeseen miehistöön.
@@psynque Kyllä, mutta ois pitäny paremmin kuvata perhettä jos oot kahtonu täällä pohjantähden alla niin koskelan isä on ihan eri persoona ja täysin eri näköinenkin muuten kyllä 5/5 lehva
@@DayOfTheRope Juu mutta valtaosa tämän elokuvan katsoneista ei ole lukenut Pohjatähteä. Jos tässä olisi kuvattu Akseli vanhat vihat unohtaneena ei Vilhon käytös olisi osunut ollenkaan. Tietysti kirjojen kokonaisuudessa se nivoutuu yhteen mutta ei 90 minuutin elokuvassa.
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It’s so nice that they included these characters from Koskela’s family. The father shown here is actually the main character in a separate trilogy of books.
Yeah. This scene got Akselis character so wrong tho.
But its not even close to actually being his father lol way different from the book
That dinner he is having is so finnish
It isn’t 😀. As half tavastian, half Karelian I can tell you that Karelians are very talkative but tavastians are not quiet either. Karelians show more feelings, tavastians rather not, and that’s why they are quiet in this scene. Too many feelings.
Mää lähren ny sitte.
This was not in the English version of the film. Is this the Director's Cut?
probably from the 5x50min miniseries
Extended series which is way better than the too short film.
@@nordicchad9669 no he was in the movie too
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He meant this scene. In the theatrical release we only see the scene of Koskela eating bread.
@@Pikkabuu I understood that, but no, this scene was in the og movie, i would know as i saw it in the movies, and i have the movie on dvd
Too talkative to be an average Finnish male, otherwise ok.
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Tfw tavastian. We live in a tavastia
Tavastian grindset is being a Kirmukarmu in a Matti Kurki society...
Onpa outo kohtaus, ei tuollaista ole kummassakaan Tuntemattomassa sotilaassa eikä Täällä pohjantähden alla.
siinä sarjassa tästä elokuvasta näkyy tämäkin kohtaus, itsekkin myöhemmin näin paljon uutta
eli jos sarjana tämän elokuvan katsoo
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