Theresa vs. Theresa

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  • Опубликовано: 30 апр 2024
  • 14-21 Adverse with free operators only
    It's been a long time since the last time i played free operators niche. Actually, its because apparently Theresa/Civilight Eterna isn't considered welfare because she is from the main story.
    I already discussed changing the rule with them, something like making her an exception or just adding all main story operators, but I failed.
    It's because the welfare definitions for Global and CN are different, so I can't save her for this niche.
    Sorry, Theresa...
    (I'll occasionally use her for fun, though.)
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Комментарии • 48

  • @Notreallysureactually
    @Notreallysureactually 2 месяца назад +62

    I have just as much authority as whoever arbitrarily decided that Theresa doesn’t count as welfare, so I declare Theresa is a Welfare unit. Go now with my blessing and use her to your heart’s content.

  • @TheBattleMarine249
    @TheBattleMarine249 2 месяца назад +82

    The way I see it, if clearing an event like Stultifera Navis to get Lumen or something counts as "Welfare," then clearing a story stage should also constitute "Welfare" since it's like the same thing

    • @sundoll3710
      @sundoll3710 2 месяца назад +15

      frfr
      not to mention, there is quite literally an event for this story....

    • @LetMeFLY649
      @LetMeFLY649 2 месяца назад +5

      i mean, it counts no? everyone can get them, and well, it's quite literally impossible not to be able to get them at some point

  • @goatofshadows
    @goatofshadows 2 месяца назад +24

    There is no justification at all. Main story freebies are very much welfares.

  • @kyarumomochi5146
    @kyarumomochi5146 2 месяца назад +22

    She is litterally labeled as the welfare operator in the livestream

  • @user-mg4rc1qw6w
    @user-mg4rc1qw6w 2 месяца назад +106

    those community "rules" for operators are weird. like seriously, why not allowing her in this niche? they ruin all the fun

  • @okboi5723
    @okboi5723 2 месяца назад +41

    This mean amiya also not wellfare then kekw
    Considering you got her from processing tutorial not limited time event

    • @-Seaheart-
      @-Seaheart- 2 месяца назад +9

      As absurd as it may sound that’s exactly what it is. The one 5 star you start off with from the moment you touch the game, the one that the game will give you pots just from progressing through the main story and the one you are even forced to promote to even progress the story (kinda) does not count as welfare. I have no idea why the community thought this kind of criteria made sense…

    • @-120Sanity
      @-120Sanity 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@-Seaheart- Truly dented moment

  • @hikaruzatara630
    @hikaruzatara630 2 месяца назад +56

    I think it is ridiculous not to include it since although they give it in the story it is still free since they give it to you for completing certain missions (I don't know how their method of obtaining it works in chapter 14) since if it were for that then they wouldn't be able to be included either. use shalem, dagga and the others since they appear in the story, whether main or in the IS. By definition, a free operator is supposed to be one that they give away or that you don't have to pay to get, teresa meets those conditions since you don't have to pay for it

    • @oomfie_rhine
      @oomfie_rhine 2 месяца назад +11

      Not exactly
      Cn’s definition initially only allowed time-limited operators, aka “welfares” since events back then were time-limited so it counts
      Going into the future however you had permanent events(i.e cc or is) so the welfares that came along with it are permanent as well, but they included them since they are still free event operators
      However same logic didn’t apply to story welfares since they aren’t time-limited at all despite debuting with a story chapter release, which is commonly considered an event
      Iirc, Theresa’s obtainment window is limited and won’t be available when ch14 release event ends, so she technically counts as a time-limited operator, but not an operator tied to a time-limited event
      In the end it all boils down to mindset difference that prevents us from getting story welfares into the niche

    • @Area_GnC
      @Area_GnC 2 месяца назад +4

      @@oomfie_rhine Wait, she can only be obtained when the Chapter 14 event is up? That's weird. Will she not come back?

    • @dragostorm5947
      @dragostorm5947 2 месяца назад +13

      ​@@Area_GnC no, chapter 14 is special in the sense that it has its own event page instead, to allow incoming/new players early access into the chapter and allow them to obtain Theresa. After the event, anyone who missed the time limited event would have to work their way up to chapter 14 instead to obtain her.
      Edit: I previously stated that she would be obtainable upon completing the first stage; this is incorrect. She will only be obtainable upon clearing the last stage (14-23) of the main story chapter. However, difficulty does not matter as long as the main unlock objective (watch 14-23) is achieved, so new players can complete the chapter in the story environment instead.

    • @charginginprogresss
      @charginginprogresss 2 месяца назад +2

      @@oomfie_rhine nonsense

    • @oomfie_rhine
      @oomfie_rhine 2 месяца назад

      @@charginginprogresss please, do elaborate on why then.

  • @sundoll3710
    @sundoll3710 2 месяца назад +13

    what I expected: welfareknights losing (they made another dogshit welfare 6*)
    what actually happened: welfareknights losing (there is no welfare 6*)

  • @hendrihendri3939
    @hendrihendri3939 2 месяца назад +16

    We have been given a redemption
    A chance to make amends to our past
    And yet, its denied. For reasons beyond our understanding.
    And now he shall live on knowing that for future Welfare clear.. she is nothing but a ghost. You can use her, but the truth wont accept her.
    Looks like Amiya is the one true Welfare Queen.

  • @adamvegas5951
    @adamvegas5951 2 месяца назад +19

    27/91 “mission complete” wait what?
    Also breeze returned from hibernation. Oh yeah koko I heard the coop mode is coming back hope it isn’t too laggy

    • @dragostorm5947
      @dragostorm5947 2 месяца назад +13

      Yes, the stage is unique that upon defeating Theresa's phase 2, the mission will automatically be cleared after 10 seconds without having to deal with the rest of the mobs.

  • @-120Sanity
    @-120Sanity 2 месяца назад +2

    Set your own rules on welfareknights and use any "characters who are given for free" because as far as I can read, the current rules are most likely created by a dented person.
    You own the acc, you own your niche, you own your rules.
    To enjoy the game is the goal of nicheknights anyways(at least for me)

  • @CallMeImouto
    @CallMeImouto 2 месяца назад +9

    I kinda disagree with free operators from story arent considered welfare.
    If you think about it, every operator that is free to get either from event or story (not from reqruitment) IS a Welfare.
    If not a welfare, then what are they ?

  • @hartoramasenju4012
    @hartoramasenju4012 2 месяца назад +21

    After seeing how fun 14-18 is, Theresa looks kinda underwhelming ngl

    • @ImranLokman
      @ImranLokman 2 месяца назад

      seriously, it's like sui dragon from ling event but way more scarier and more simple too.

    • @sofyanwidiyanto2859
      @sofyanwidiyanto2859 2 месяца назад

      It is. I expect nezc king to be a boss in this chapter, but hey at least we got Yuka Kitamura composed the boss music

    • @Gspoink
      @Gspoink 2 месяца назад +1

      ​​@@sofyanwidiyanto2859With the sprite ready, I think Nachzehrer King will be a boss in IS5. We're not ready.

    • @anhdotram5947
      @anhdotram5947 2 месяца назад

      Yeah honestly, i felt the final boss of chap 14 is not that cinematic compared to chap 8

  • @voltrixgames4375
    @voltrixgames4375 2 месяца назад

    it’s crazy how many people think the civilight eterna operator is theresa (I know some people know it’s the crown manifesting its consciousness in the form of theresa), but some people think the operator is really theresa and it’s wild because I know one of her voicelines proves she knows she isn’t theresa

  • @andreap5420
    @andreap5420 2 месяца назад

    If it doesn't cost orundum, it's welfare

  • @Jack-wl5wt
    @Jack-wl5wt 2 месяца назад

    Kyaa Breeze💖 (sorry that we can't save Theresa...)

  • @Jardrin
    @Jardrin 2 месяца назад +3

    Wait, if "Main story" characters is not allowed.. Then doesn't that also ban most 3*s, Amiya and Jessica, since they are given in the prologue?... That make no sense, said rule completely contradict itself.

    • @Kokokbeluk
      @Kokokbeluk  2 месяца назад

      Yes they are banned, and I'm no longer use them since a few years ago

  • @-Seaheart-
    @-Seaheart- 2 месяца назад +2

    If I may ask, why don’t you just set the criteria for free operators on your channel if the only thing keeping you from using her is the fact that other players want to go for a different convention for what is welfare. I mean I understand the issue with calling it welfare only and using a different criteria from an arbitrary one that already exists but you could simply call it “freeknights” or something of the kind whenever you want to use some operators that by all means should count as welfare. Obviously I can’t speak for everyone but I really doubt your viewers would take issue with that.

  • @ShinodaChan
    @ShinodaChan 2 месяца назад +1

    I feel your pain. She should technically be allowed in Sarkaz Only as well (along with the robot), but the rule is fixed at zero ambiguity. Do I agree with it? Absolutely not, but I don't have the authority to change it and never will.

  • @josephkim9974
    @josephkim9974 2 месяца назад

    fuck yeah tachanka.

  • @ChaYoon2511
    @ChaYoon2511 2 месяца назад +3

    So amiya all form are not allowed too?

    • @Kokokbeluk
      @Kokokbeluk  2 месяца назад

      Yea no, I just used her now for fun

    • @AxCevone
      @AxCevone 2 месяца назад

      ​@@Kokokbelukahh back again to free operators only from welfare only, i see

  • @ZenHorakti
    @ZenHorakti 2 месяца назад +4

    Soo... Is Civilight Eterna join Welfare gengs?
    And Breeze?

    • @Kokokbeluk
      @Kokokbeluk  2 месяца назад

      No

    • @juxnlatell_juxnhuy
      @juxnlatell_juxnhuy 2 месяца назад

      ​@@Kokokbelukblud said no💀

    • @ZenHorakti
      @ZenHorakti 2 месяца назад

      ​@@Kokokbeluk
      I am happy you make content for them tho. Do that sometime.