My mother had severe endometriosis and went to her doctor to finally get a hysterectomy, she was told that she couldn't have one because miraculously she was pregnant! Her doctor told her (after tests) that the baby would be severely disabled and 'look like a monster'. She refused to have an abortion. The doctor was so concerned about the trauma seeing the baby would cause my mother that he convinced her to have a c-section under general anaesthetic. My brother is now 44 years old, he has no disability in any way, physically or mentally and in fact has his own 8 year old son. Doctors make mistakes all the time.
I've had 4 sections. I was told my 4th child tested positive for down syndrome. I refused further testing and denied termination. She is 5 months now and is NOT down syndrome. My husband and I agreed on loving and taking care of her how ever God send her to us. Glad we trusted the most High God and surrender his will for us. P.s I've had an abortion 11 years ago and it was the biggest regret of my life.
Praise Jesus! He is so good 🥹 I also had an abortion 😞 the deep repentance I feel for that will always be with me. I regretted it the second I did it. But our God used that to wake me up from my darkness. He really does make all things for our good… even if it’s hard. Sending you love and prayers for your baby girl 💞✝️
Sometimes I fear that some doctors want women to tie their tubes and get abortions because they fear the myth of overpopulation. I think many parents who fear having children with special needs are pressured into aborting them by their doctor’s. The doctor will insist that they are just doing their job and showing you your options. If you are looking for a Catholic Pro-life NaPro certified OBGYN or any type of pro-life doctor, you can find lists online. I am thankful that I found mine. She will never perform abortions, offer sterilization nor birth control. She was the one who discovered and treated my stage three endometriosis, celiac disease and Hashimoto. God bless all of the Christian doctors!
God Bless you and your family! Thank you for sharing your story. You are a wonderful mother. There is forgiveness for abortion, ask the Lord, confess, repent, and you will be forgiven! Take care 🙂 ❤
My husbands aunt lost a baby six months along because of congenital defects. She got pregnant again and the tests told her this baby had the same condition and she was offered an abortion. She declined the abortion and went through her pregnant prepared for heartbreak. Graham was born 26 years ago perfectly healthy and is now a lab tech at a major hospital.
@@ultravioletpisces3666she never viewed it as HER choice, she left it to nature because no human has the right to take away the life of another, and turns out the doctors were wrong. She is forever grateful for her convictions.
I’m 39 years old. I will be giving birth to my 4 child at age 40. Due to health reasons all of my children have been born by C-section and number 4 will be also. My 3rd child a girl was born on November 10, 2021 and has full trisomy 18. She’s now two years old. There are certainly challenges but many joys. There are many other children like my daughter who are older and thriving.
Thank you for sharing! There are so many beautiful stories of Trisomy 18 children on RUclips alone - and you know there are even more out there just living private lives. I can’t imagine they made national headlines over the utter necessity of terminating these special blessings - that has to hit families like yours hard 😞
@@Me-hf4ii it’s heartbreaking for sure. There’s a lot of discrimination in the medical industry against children born with the various trisomies. Many doctors really don’t like treating children with special needs. Sadly Ms Cox’s physicians have vastly overstated the risks to her health in carrying her precious baby. I pray God open her eyes.
My aunt was given the diagnosis of Down syndrome for my cousin.. he didn’t end up having Down syndrome! He’s in his 20’s now. And this is why I declined testing both my children while they were in the womb. It didn’t matter anyway.
U dont know what they are actually doing either and yes this has happened and dr will push for aborting a ds baby. I refused to have the test. Had to sign that i refused it
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Children do belong to all of us in the sense that they are raised not just by the parents but also by the rest of society: family, teachers, peers, coaches, strangers. You aren't doing all of the guidance that raises your child into adulthood. In the first years you do a lot if not most of it but once the kids are approaching ten and getting into their teens, peers and social groups and teachers start having a huge impact too. Can't claim full credit for raising your kids.
I had a similar diagnosis over 20 years ago before I was a born again christian. I had a DandE and have deeply regretted that painful decision. I was also ill informed about what would take place but now I know the horror of it. I pray that the Holy spirit would convict this woman and that she will choose to trust in the Lord and continue with this pregnancy. I also pray that Texas would stand firm for Life in all circumstances. I'm thankful for the Lord's forgiveness and redemption in my life. He blessed me with 3 beautiful children even after I took the life of my first child. I am unworthy but Jesus. The devil loves to tempt women to murder their children. In my opinion there is no greater assault against the Lord. Let us pray against the spirit of fear that is gripping this woman to cause her to make this choice. Allie I appreciate you talking about these hard topics and standing firm. I agree with everything you said. Empathy for the sad situation but standing strong that all life is valuable at every stage and every situation. Mothers were made to protect and sacrifice. Many blessings.
As a pediatric nurse who cares for these kids and being 20 weeks pregnant this makes me physically ill. This poor baby. I can’t even deal with people who won’t hold their dog during their last breaths I definitely can’t understand a mother not wanting to care and love for their child until the Lord takes them.
So what’s the different of any parents that want children? Isn’t having a family a “selfish” desire as well? You can make it part of gods desire if you want, but it’s still putting what you want as well as your desire.
@@TheClimateChannelwe are commanded by God to be fruitful and multiply. It’s in our nature to want to reproduce because God made it good. God also commanded us to not have innocent blood on our hands and not to murder. Having an abortion is selfish because it puts our needs first instead of Gods. You’re taking away something God created because you think you know more than Him.
@@TheClimateChannel Well, isn't there a reason why human children are birthed by women and not men? Us women should bond with our children and lovingly care for them. Isn't the whole point that there's a difference between conceiving children the way humans naturally reproduce versus buying the eggs and renting the wombs of women who are kinda desperate for money, and then taking the baby away from its mother, all just because two men aren't willing to participate in the natural way humans are capable of reproduction but want children anyways? In the case of a lesbian couple, one of them can still be pregnant with the baby but men would rather make the baby go through all of that because of what they want?
What came to my mind is how will this mother explain to her older children what has "happened" to the baby they no doubt have begun to look forward to joining their family? Would she rather tell them their baby sibling died at natural birth or that she chose to end their baby sibling's life? Just picturing their little faces should be enough to make the right decision an easy one. I had a brother diagnosed with a form of spina bifida that would TODAY be eligible for termination. My parents were told he would not likely live beyond five years old. I am so glad he was born as my older brother. His life was hard. His life made my parent's lives hard. It was not easy, but he blessed us to the age of 49! My mother later had to birth a stillborn baby, but would never have elected abortion as a way out of a tough situation. I am so grateful!!
So true. Also, she says a main reason she wants to kill the baby is so they can have more children in the future and they don't want to use one of their C-sections on this baby since this baby will "die anyway". That is such a huge weight to put on those childrens' shoulders! Imagine knowing the only reason you are alive is beacuse your parents decided to kill your sibling so they could have you. This will be traumatic for all of their children indeed, born and unborn.
This is why i didnt do any of the genetic testing early in my pregnancy. ( currently 29 weeks with my first baby). I didnt need the stress of whatever the doctors would tell me, what would be the point of it. I dont believe in abortion and my child is my child no matter what. Cant wait to meet her in 10 weeks!!
Prior to being pregnant, I thought it was harsh to criminalize women who do this. Now I’m 31 weeks pregnant with my first and I believe there is something seriously wrong with women who seek to do this to their children. Criminal charges doesn’t sound so crazy to me.
Yes girl! I can somewhat understand women who aren’t mothers or have never been pregnant being for abortion but for mothers to agree with that?! I can not wrap my head around that. Abortion always felt wrong to me on a gut level but before I had a baby I always kinda thought well I don’t know what’s it’s like so I didn’t feel comfortable to speak on it. But now as a mother! I will always protect life. I will lay down my life for my baby. Can’t relate to mothers who wouldn’t
Plus this diagnosis is often wrong. I can't believe she doesn't want to at least meet this baby and see. I saw Joel Berry say that people with trisomy 18 often live long lives but abortion is included in the overall statistics so people think it's near fatal. Congratulations on your first pregnancy!
@@user-uz2vc1gc6vforced birth is not a thing like you’re making it out to be. The only “forced birth” is abortion, and it’s forcing the birth of a dead and dismembered baby.
@@user-uz2vc1gc6v Suffering, then death, that’s life in a nutshell for ALL of us. Not one of us will make it through a lifetime on this planet without going through a lot of suffering. When I think about how much suffering my Grand mother had to go through before she died I’m reminded of the reality of life in this world. Please go watch a video by a former abortionist doctor explaining in detail how a abortion is done to a 20 week old baby. Then tell me if allowing your own child in the womb to go through that so that YOU don’t have to suffer from loving a baby with special needs is a life well lived? It’s simple. We either spend our lives loving God and loving other people or we don’t. Allowing your child to be cut to pieces in the womb is not love, it is pure evil. You need to make up your mind, do you want to live the life of love (which will always include lots of suffering) or do you want to become evil. It will always be a thousand times easier to become evil and live only for your own pleasure and ease. It’s so easy to think evil is wrong when others commit it, but when I do it it’s totally fine.
As awful and painful as it would be, I would still want to hold my baby and let them feel loved even if only for a short time 😢she doesn’t want to have a baby with a fatal disease, but is ok with having it dismembered inside her!? This is so awful 😢
An ultrasound around this time of gestation showed what the doctor said was a strong indicator that our baby had Trisomy 18 and that it was “incompatible with life”, she was just giving her facts and in no way pressuring to end his life, and she also told me that in many cases this indicator will go away on its own. His did. Even WITH a diagnosis the babies should never be murdered and it does make me wonder how many are flippantly given a diagnosis and aborted before the even reach term. Never to have truly had this “Incompatible with life” problem. Our son is 12 today and does not have trisomy 18.
We buried our son earlier this year at 4 days old. He was given a lethal diagnosis in utero at my 20-week anatomy scan. Allie is spot on. We empathize with the sadness of the situation but not her desire to terminate. It’s aggravating how hypocritical people can be in these situations. If a 5-year-old suffered an accident and became disabled or was given a lethal diagnosis from injuries, do we then kill the 5-year-old child? Obviously not. But for some reason those same mothers won’t fight for their babies while they are still growing in the womb. It’s pure selfishness. When we were given the option to terminate our baby at 20 weeks, the only reason to do so would have been purely selfish…. because it was hard to carry our son to term… because he may have severe disabilities if he lived, and we'd have to bear that.... because I’d have the pain of childbirth only to walk away empty handed from the hospital…. Yep. And I did it. And I don’t regret a thing because I loved the child in my womb in the same way I love my children outside the womb. It’s not about ‘my feelings’, it’s about their life. End of story.
Gosh your story has tugged at my heart. I am so sorry for your loss! So sorry. But you are an amazing mama and showed undeniable love to your son. You did everything you should do as a mother for him.
I think people don't want to handle allllll of the money, time, and responsibility you need to handle a disabled (from the start) child. It's really hard and some people just can't handle it and who knows if they'd abuse or neglect the child because they never wanted it.
Especially with his past I can’t believe he was allowed to “purchase “a child. No background check nothing just handing them off like they aren’t people.
A friend of mine donated eggs for money and I considered it. I was so young and had no idea. I decided against it because “my” children would be out there. I’m so thankful I did.
I was so tempted to do this when I was young and broke. So glad I didnt. I would be going crazy knowing I had kids out in the world, not knowing if they were okay...
There is no morality in separating life from its loving natural way that it has been planned to be brought by ❤ As a 27yo woman I am proud you share your decision to withdraw from that transaction. Because the question is, once people start meddling with natural and loving conception, where can that take us, what is too much? Probably any meddling with artificial fertility is too much, imo ❤ God knows best. We can not go around trying to create and force life in a way that it simply is not meant to be. On the other hand, I would stick to my view if I ever encountered infertility problems. I would try my best with the help of natural methods, but if still my body couldn’t bring about a life, then it’s my place to understand and accept that. I don’t think humans can take over and make decisions that go against physics and nature like that, aka, God. We can do that, but to our deteriment. And that of our environment. What’s meant to be is meant to be, in God’s measure.
I will never understand how anyone can want to rip their babies apart!!!!! I lost a baby at 36 it was a tubal pregnancy and I had a 19 year old daughter at that time losing that baby destroyed me!!! Then my daughter was in a motorcycle accident at 32 and lived in a vegetative state for 5 1/2 years until she passed at 37 years old leaving my 2 grandchildren without a Mom!
My parents were told my brother would have down syndrome and that they should abort. They were appalled. My brother didn't have down syndrome but would have been loved and cared for either way. He's now a husband and father. I'm so glad they weren't persued by the doctor and his ignorance in suggesting someone with down syndrome wasn't worthy of life.
My daughter was diagnosed with trisomy 13 mosaicism , hydrocephalus and heart defects . The only prognosis was death upon delivery or living life in a possible vegetive state . She’s 5 now and even though the trisomy (less than 4% of cells are abnormal praise Jesus ) and hydrocephalus remain she is a thriving , bubbly , talkative and fierce blessing ! Doctors don’t know everything and I’m so grateful to God that his ways are higher than mine ❤
I was told the same thing. I knew God had bigger plans. I stopped going to the specialist bc I felt like she was pushing for an abortion and kept going to my normal OB. My daughter is perfect. They said she had other things upon birth and so far she has passed all testings. We currently are just waiting on one more thing. My friend also was told the same thing this year, despite them wanting for her to go out of state. Ps we live in Texas. She denied and went to have her baby this year too. She sadly passed upon delivery. However, she said that everything was worth it seeing her little girls smile. That is a mother. Willing to do do anything for their child. Sad to see some women lacking strength and courage.
I have a daughter with a chromosomal abnormality and she is the biggest blessing to our family. I wouldn't change her for all the money in the world. She is made in the image of God just like everyone else.
I had a baby boy with Trisomy 18 in October last year. He was 20 weeks. Breaks my heart to think people would abort him just because of his diagnosis. I would have loved him just as much as I love my living children and think about him often. I do thank the Lord that he is healthy and in the Father's hands now though! He wasn't diagnosed until we found out he was gone, but my living son was a false negative for down syndrome and he is very much not
There are MANY women who would gladly be prepared to adopt that baby immediately after birth regardless of the baby's medical status. I would be one of those women. I am licensed to foster/adopt through the state of Texas and I have told my agency that I am fully willing to take a child who is terminal. Because they deserve the best life possible for however long they are on earth. They deserve the unconditional love of a mother even if it's for a few hours. Not being dismembered in the womb. Disgusting.
@@SpamAccount-ri7px this is a really unkind comment. She said she's trying to adopt in Texas. Do you know what it's like to long for a child and not have one? Have you ever tried to adopt? The process is long, hard, broken, and very expensive. There are many more parents who want to adopt than there are children. She's likely waiting to get a child and you're just being a troll on the internet.
The woman wanting a 20 week abortion HAS to be a psychopath. Especially after having children already. She is already a mother… and she can imagine ripping her baby apart and is FIGHTING for that??? Does she not feel any connection at all?? At 20 weeks you can usually feel your child moving!! Again, she’s gotta be a psychopath
To think that my aunt and uncle for years and years had to wade through the adoption system till they were able to adopt and these clowns can just rent a womb is insane. He is one of the last people that should be able to do this.
God used me to talk a coworker out of a baby who tested positive for Down syndrome. That baby is now 13 years old and was not born with any syndromes of any kind.
I have nothing but empathy towards this woman having had 2 and a miscarriage myself. I wasn’t a Christian then but I believe God turns these things around for his benefit. We are nobody to cast judgement.
I have a severely disabled child, and this story sickens me to my core. In our special needs community, I know 2 T18 sweet girls that are 2 and 4!!!!! (Different families) and we know a family that lost their T18 baby girl at 47 days old on the NICU. The family that lost their sweet baby girl at 47 days are absolutely devastated, and I know they would do anything to hold their child for even just 1 more day. The grounds at which Cox is making this argument is so ridiculous, and I pray that this continues to expose the need of further protection for children with special needs.
No you don’t understand. Not until it’s you. question: how is adoption in your mind not traumatic and a broken bond from the bio parent. Because my trauma that my bio mom has inflicted on me by giving zero F**ks about giving me away the second I was born. She’s also denied me the right to meet my siblings and has sent me a letter saying I should never have been born. So no, adoption can be just as damaging as surrogacy when the bio mother rejects her child.
31:26- STOP putting all ivf users in the same category. I do not have any excess embryos. I used limited insemination. I had to pay more to do this because clinics don’t want to limit their numbers. I don’t free any. All were implanted. I didn’t test my embryos. They are biologically mine and my husbands. One podcast explained it can be done morally. Please don’t lump all ivf together as the same.
I know a family that had a baby with trisomy 18 and I followed her journey on social media and it was a beautiful journey unfortunately, sweet girl did pass away when she was I believe one year old. Of course she had all the health problems that you stated and they took her home on lots of medical equipment, but they were able to enjoy her still the time they had with her and it was just beautiful and I think about that family a lot
@@SpamAccount-ri7pxThe baby was birthed alive and was loved at home. The same can be said for older people who are in pain and suffering. Many don’t just kill their elderly loved ones.
All of my babies had to be delivered via c section. My first baby was a miscarriage unfortunately. My first born child was born via emergency csection because I had severe preeclampsia. He was fortunately born to term. And then my daughter was born 10 weeks early because I had severe preeclampsia again that turned into HELLPs. I had pushed myself to the brink of almost dying because I didn't want her born too early and I was trying to protect her as long as possible. They wanted to deliver her at 27/28 weeks, and we made it work another 2.5 weeks. Or I should say - GOD made it possible to be born at 30 weeks. But my husband and I knew that she was my priority and I would have died to save her life. But I remember even around 24 weeks, the doctors said it was a shame I couldn't have made the decision to abort her because of low birth weight (this was literally after only one scan). And I told them what they could do with their attitudes toward my child. Funny how the next scan showed she was just fine on weight and they were full of it. But regardless, she was still born early and we spent 57 days in the NICU. But, God was there the whole time. He saved both us and helped us both through one of the hardest times in our lives. But csections are not dirty words nor are they something to be afraid of. I am grateful for Csections because they saved us both. I hate that this woman has used political ideology to push the abortion agenda. I have a hard time calling her a mother when she cared so little about her baby that she would rather dismember her baby instead of hold her. I can't relate to that kind of thinking. I can relate to be scared and I can relate to worry and fear. But I can't relate to the thoughts of "I don't want to deal with it, so I will just kill my child." Because that's all this is. She doesn't want to deal with it. Her daughter could be born just fine, or her daughter could live just a few short minutes, or not all. But, her daughter's life was worth doing anything and everything to protect her and love her. I didn't want to deal with the possibility of my daughter dying, or being in the NICU much longer than we were, or dealing with possible disabilities. We didn't know what would happen either. But, you don't quit on your child. You don't say "I can't deal, so your life should be taken away." This is a culture of death that preys on these vulnerable women going through heartbreaking situations like this.
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Thank you for being a champion for children. God bless you Allie Beth. You are a real Christian. This work you do is VERY IMPORTANT. People need to learn from you.
My sister also had a Trisomy 18 baby. From her first ultrasound she was given the diagnosis. The doctors gave her the option of having an abortion, but she wouldn’t. Gods will would be done. She carried her baby girl to term and gave birth knowing that her daughter probably wasn’t going to live. My sister’s sweet baby girl lived 12 precious hours and we all got the chance to hold her and say goodbye. It was heartbreaking but also such a beautiful memory we were able to be apart of because she didn’t abort.
My cousin was born with trisomy 18 and lived 5 beautiful months. Can you imagine having the opportunity to have a daughter for 5 months or even longer and instead choosing to murder her? Literally rip her body apart? I fail to see how how anyone in the pro choice movement has the hubris to believe that they get to decide when an innocent baby's life can end. Hell will be full of people like this.
I lost my son at 21 wks his heart stopped beating and I had a VBAC after 2 C-section . The doc did bring up alternative deliveries but it sound to horrible to perform for baby boy who had passed I can’t imagine performing that to a live baby. It was also some what healing to hold him and say good bye after he was born
Jesus Christ died for our Sins according to the scriptures and that he was Buried and that he rose again the third day praise God praying for everyone everyday God bless you all
He and Ryland are going to be great parents. Don’t condemn someone over a bad joke that was obviously a mistake and not at all funny. People on the internet say dumb things sometimes just to get a reaction.
It is not a crime. He was not convicted of anything. We have free speech. There have been actual straight parents molest their own children and not get them taken away.
@@sugarspiceandlottarice8877 well find something illegal and turn the evidence over to the authorities if it bothers you so much....or get a hobby besides following two fathers that you hate.
My mom had 5 c sections(I was her first and I was an emergency c section)and she’s fine. Crazy “reasoning” on her end. Wow. I hope that she comes to her senses and embraces her little one before she gets called home
This just goes to show how desperate we are as humans for control, I pray that mother takes this opportunity to rely fully on the Lord through such painful circumstances - to know that the peace she’s looking for is in Christ alone 🙏🏼
Ryland lying there in that photo infuriates me. He has absolutely not a single iota of what a woman’s body sacrifices when bringing a soul into the world. As a mother of 4, both Ryland and Shane are a disgrace and I pray Jesus has mercy on their souls. Those poor babies, they miss their mother.
I feel the woman in TX needs to go through intensive therapy to talk about humanity and her feelings towards birth. To me, this has nothing to do with Christianity or any religious stance. I feel there is a severe possibility that the woman is terrified to meet her child, the love of her life, only to meet them dead or lose them any day. People grieve differently. Some who lose a loved one will go all in and do everything to lay them to rest, whereas their sibling can barely attend the funeral. We do need to have compassion for the mother! Also, taking into account hormones affect her decisions.
I feel for the mother. Yet the doc diagnosis isn’t always correct. A church family was told their daughter was going to have down syndrome by their doctor and told to abort. They said no. They of course prayed and the baby girls is now 5 years old and normal. The mother must be scared but she’s honing to regret the abortion
Good point on the egg “donation “. Using this logic of the law means a person can buy heroin but not be convicted because they are not buying the heroin, they are paying them for their time and trouble.
Well a lot of people do agree with that because going to jail doesn’t help people stop being addicted to heroin, so this isn’t really an accurate analogy
Your words speak biblical truth about love. One more thought...what mother wouldn't want to love and hold her child to comfort it in its last moments if this is the outcome from this pregnancy? Caring for an unhealthy child would be the other scenario...what mother wouldn't do that? Being a mother is never easy...being a godly mother makes it easier to never contemplate taking the 'easy' road and simply allow your child to be 'medically killed' to spare you from doing the most difficult thing a mother could ever be called to do.
I don't believe there's honor in sacrificing needlessly. We have enough empathy to put animals down when they are in pain yet want a child to choke to death...
@katieholmes8661 Nobody wants a child to choke to death. We just don't have the right to decide who lives or dies, and when. It's a terrible situation and a very dangerous precedent.
I’ve had 2 c-sections. Pregnant now… want to TOLAC but will do whatever is best for baby… even if that results in me losing my uterus (cuz that is *always* an increased risk once you have even had ONE c-section - that is where Cox’s risk comes from… not from the baby.) With my firstborn, I was told he had a severe heart defect, something wrong with the placenta, and Down’s syndrome. I was told he had a 60% chance of dying in the womb, and a 90% chance of never making it home. That IF he made it home, he would have no quality of life and would be a burden to us for the rest of his life and “how are you going to take care of him?” I was also told that the longer I stayed pregnant the more likely I would die. And that I was just prolonging the inevitable by not terminating. My son is about to turn 10 now. He’s perfectly healthy. Doesn’t have DS, the “heart defect” cleared up at 33 weeks, and the placenta issue cleared up at 28 weeks. I had a scary horrible first 2 trimesters and a totally normal 3rd trimester. He is the light of my life. I wouldn’t be who I am today without him. My husband wouldn’t be who he is without our son. We are both better people because of him. I knew when I was pregnant with him, that his life was not mine to take. His life was mine to protect and care for for as LONG as I could. I do not understand women who would voluntarily allow a butcher to rip apart their child under any circumstances… let alone over prophecies of doom and fetal diagnoses - diagnoses that you CANNOT confirm until birth. Cox is killing her baby girl in the most barbaric way imaginable over “what ifs” 😞
My close friend was told her baby had this ... The test was wrong. Praise the Lord. No matter what, however. They were going to have her, love her and care for her.
I just can't even imagine turning my back on my child before she's even been born. 😢 Luckily for her first two children, they were born "normal" bc her love is absolutely conditional.
No offense Allie, but you were very harsh and you really don’t understand her position. Yes, she is being used as a prop and being further traumatized by the abortion industry. But, here is a woman who is panicking about the possible thought of raising a severely disabled child. She is showing through this decision she has no one truly standing alongside of her to help her through the grieving process that this type of diagnosis comes with. And no one possibly offering to help raise this child if they live. And no one offering to help her grieve if they die at birth. She most likely googled trisomy 18 and was given a huge shock of what could happen if this child lived. I would always counsel anyone in this position to choose life and have done so in the past. I have an adult child with severe disabilities due to a different chromosomal disorder. Hearing his diagnosis was one of those PTSD moments. Very very traumatizing. But I had faith in God and some degree of support. She may have neither. It doesn’t justify at all what she wants to do, and I don’t agree with her decision at all, but I know that panic and devastation she is feeling right now.
I don't think her response was harsh at all. Allie has compassion for what this woman is going through. Truth can actually hurt sometimes, even when given in love. It's what one chooses to do after being convicted that speaks of their character.
When I was pregnant with my son who just turned one I spent most of it on bed rest in and out of the hospital. During one of my week long stays one of the nurses congratulated me for keeping my pregnancy because another woman was aborting her 24 week pregnancy because her doctor was putting her on bed rest, and she didn't want to deal with that.
That's sad. I just started to volunteer at our local pregnancy center because I feel like it's time to be part of the solution now. Too much abortion, not enough life giving pregnancy centers. The more support women have, the more encouraged they will be to keep their babies. I'm convinced!
The issue with "life of the mother" exceptions is that just being pregnant is an increased risk of death. Esp when some states maternal mortality risk is 60x higher than some european countries.
Yeah. And in Cox’s case, her increased risk comes from her surgical history. So she will have the exact same risk if she becomes pregnant again. Maybe that child will have polydactyly, or minor spina bifida, or be a boy when she wants a girl - will her “increased risk of rupture or hysterectomy” be used again to justify termination?
I happen to be gay and conservative. I'm engaged to my partner. He wants to have a child and I'm so torn... because, yeah, I feel like being a parent is such a gift and a (beyond) special part of the human experience. Why shouldn't I experience that? And yet, I firmly believe that it's a child's birthright to have both sexes for parents. The fact people deny the distinct benefits of both a mother and a father is a testament to unclear thinking. My partner wants to go the surrogacy route. However, while it would be magical to have my DNA (we agree that it would be mine), something in my heart feels that we should adopt. And I like what Allie said about adoption being redeeming VS surrogacy being creating. I have talked about this endlessly with family/friends and nobody seems to get it. I think, for selfish reasons, people lean toward blood above all... while I, personally, think that love is the most important for raising a child. Especially a child that can't find a home.
Thank you for sharing. I understand how strong the longing for a child is and I'm sure you'd love a child well. My question is: Why, if you know a mother and father are important, would you adopt and a deny a child that opportunity to have a mother? There are soooo many heterosexual couples that want to adopt but aren't chosen by birth mothers. What if the child you adopt would have been chosen by a mother and a father wanting to adopt?
@@hannahthehomesteader Thanks for the thoughtful response. To answer your question, I honestly haven't begun the process of adoption or looking into it so deeply yet... but, as Allie mentioned in this video (and I above)... adopting, for me, would be more of a redeeming thing. That is, with the knowing that a child was having a hard time being placed in a home and somehow my family could provide the nurture a child needed. I don't know if it's always true that heterosexual couples are being turned away for same-sex parents, but I understand your perspective.
I think you are very mature and show great character to be thinking the way you are. Most people only think about their own needs and wants and not about children’s rights. You are right that it is every child’s right to grow up with both his/her father and mother. The book “Being There” by Erica Komisar is a good read that explains why both mothers and fathers are so important for a baby. It’s quite fascinating, our differences in hormones etc. make mothers and fathers very different in how we treat a baby and both are important. If you are interested in adoption it shows you truly care about children and probably already have a father’s heart for children. My husband and I did both foster parenting and started the process to adopt before we became pregnant. We were passionate about potentially adopting older children since so many couples only want babies and toddlers (again mostly because of selfish reasons). There are so many older children in foster care waiting for a loving home and nobody wants them because most couples want a baby or toddler without any special needs. There is definitely a child out there who’s greatest dream is for someone like you to choose him/her. Surrogacy is such a bad idea because it hurts the children in many ways. I understand that it’s a tempting route for many couples but few have educated themselves on how surrogacy hurts the child. Did you watch the interview on this channel where Allie interviewed an adult woman who was conceived via surrogacy, it’s also an informative interview.
I wonder if you have considered how incredibly difficult it is for men to care for infants? For pretty much the first year, most babies only want mom. There's been many times when my husband is comforting a screaming baby and the minute I take over, the baby calms down. And I know instinctively how to deal with situations that my husband does not. We downplay gender roles in modern culture but if ever there was an appropriate context for them, it's infant care. Considering this factor, it may be more beneficial to all involved to consider adopting children in the foster system rather than an infant.
I just don’t understand how people bash this example with Shane & Ryland but support straight couples going through IVF or fertility treatments. I shuts support anyone that wants to be a loving parent, no matter their route, blood or not.
When I was pregnant with my first child I got told she had down syndrome and I didn’t want to continue with the testing, I just prayed to God for His will to be done and not mine or what the doctors said, I’m so glad I did, she is now 6 years old. Praise God!!
I am not sure admittedly I haven’t researched this but I do know some mothers of babies with anecephaly will carry to term and make a donation to Gift of Hope. They derive comfort that their babies will help another baby. Whether that is possible in this circumstance as I said I do not know. I am sad for this mother. I think she will regret the action she is taking and I hope she is not being unduly influenced by those that hold her up as an example of choice.
I know of a women who had 9 c sections and another women who had placenta acreta and had a healthy baby but had to have a hysterectomy during the delivery due to it attaching to uterus and surrounding tissue. Also have a friend who had a c section ectopic pregnancy where the baby implants into the scar from previous c section and as baby grows it rips the scar open she had to terminate the pregnancy due too internal bleeding and was deeply saddened by it and it was truly a life or death case
"They deserve"? You know what... babies DESERVE to be raised with their mother and father. They DON'T DESERVE to be purchased like some lifeless commodity - being stripped of any assemblance of normalcy - just for the happiness of gay men.
@@Antnj81Let me rephrase that for the op…they deserve the chance to be good parents like everyone else. If having both a mother and father is more important, what if the mother was abusive, but Shane and Ryland are fully ready to be good parents? Then the baby should go with the abusive mom/dad just because they could conceive naturally? Because I’m not sure if you’re aware, being able to conceive naturally doesn’t always guarantee good parents and a happy life. And give me a break about the “purchasing babies”, you’re acting like there’s some black market baby shop that they bought from, instead of researching and going through this whole process with the surrogate, using their own dna, in a completely legal process.
Doctors told me that my daughter was measuring to have a smaller head than normal when I was pregnant with her. my husband was extremely worried about it but after praying, God spoke to me and said, "she is perfecly well " and I continued to believe and declare that. Never once did ee consider an abortion. And my daughter was still born perfectly healthy just like Jesus had told me.❤ Doctors definitely do not have the last word.
I'm sure shane and ryland are superior parents and the boys are going to see them as their fathers and are gong to be so loved. Have you talked to the donor or the surrogate? Do they feel like they are being victims of prostitution and human trafficking? You are talking a bunch of bullshit, do you have any scientific evidence that these children are gong to be permanently wounded because of egg donation and a surrogate mother? I can tell you one thing though, I AM permanently wounded after growing up in a dysfunctional family with drug and alcohol abuse and THAT my friend is why every person is not suitable to become a parent, WHERE were god in that situation huh? I would rather grow up with Shane and Ryland or any other gay couple than what I grew up in.
It is terrible to hear how an abortion is performed, but so many people have no idea that this happens. Please keep educating people. As a mom of a child who knew my child would be born with spina bifida , i would make the same choice every time. She is now 17 and the love of my life.
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I'm a mom who had a baby girl, stillbirth at 37 weeks and 3 days. A week before her due date and at a checkup, we hear no heartbeat. unknown cause to her death. She is not right. This woman is not right. She wants popularity. I have never regretted holding my Lily. this breaks my heart. Even if I knew she would pass, I would still carry her again. To hold her again. Why not carry her baby and hold her baby. Oh, this is so terrible. I know that Jesus is holding my baby now.
It’s not easy seeing these babies going to these people who are LOST and perverted mentally. Truly saddening.. We gotta keep all the kids in our prayers and even pray for these LOST & broken individuals. 🙏🏽✝️❤️
I can have empathy for the understanding of what she will go through when she delivers a baby that could die a week later. And experiencing that would be so difficult. But we have to go through hard things sometimes and we can’t always avoid them. Having an abortion for the sake of avoiding a difficult emotional battle is a pathetic excuse.
Even state schools push these crazy ideologies. My university had a mandatory American history class and the professor of that class told us that his main goal in teaching was to start a radical communist revolution to end capitalism in the US. This was a state university in Missouri. As a college student I didn't think much about what he was saying or how he was influencing students, but looking back I can't believe he was allowed to teach.
What are your thoughts on leftover embryos being donated or adopted by an infertile couple? The biological parents are not going to have more children and not going to use the leftover remaining embryos.What’s to be done with those frozen unwanted embryos? Just curious.
Going the surrogate route is absolutely not 'human trafficking.' So if a woman is incapable of carrying her own child she should be condemned to never having children? If two gay men want to bring a beautiful life into this world they shouldn't be shamed in doing so. I had a mother and father who abandoned me and were abusive but because they were straight and I grew up with my biological parents its okay. You're saying the babies have given 'no contest' to be put through this process but isn't that the case for all? I don't remember my 5 month old son contest to be his mother. If I had a c-section does that make me a horrible mother because I didn't ask my baby if he was okay with it. It's absurd. Children are beautiful creations and as long as Shane and Ryland are able to meet the needs of those two boys there is no issue with it. Spend your time focusing on all the kids in abusive homes, foster care and who are actually being neglected. No human should be shamed in wanting to create a beautiful life whether its from there own bodies or someone else's.
You wouldn’t be mad if there was a picture of a straight dad laying exhausted next to his baby, which happens all the time. I do feel like children need their mother but that was a cherry-pick that you wouldn’t say if they were straight and their wife had just given birth and someone snapped a pic of a tired dad
I pray that when the moment arrives and she does meet her daughter she will be grateful it happened the way it did. Her pain is clouding her judgement in this moment but God is in control of this story. True love will prevail in this bittersweet situation...
Last I heard she fled the state to have her baby dismembered. If that’s true, she will never see her. Her tiny, broken body will be tossed in an incinerator. She will never be held. She will never be comforted. She will never even be named. We are now living in Rome before the fall.
I am a very pro life person even in cases of rape I would hope the woman would give the baby up for adoption. I disagree with the pro life community on this. Trisomy 18 is almost a certain death why would you expect a mom to go through a pregnancy that’s going to end in almost certain death. That seems like torture for a woman to go through the rest of her pregnancy knowing the baby is going to die. The Pro life community needs to have some common sense on these matters. She didn’t want an abortion she wanted the child up until the time she found out her baby had Trisomy 18. Still births are extremely devastating my mom had one and the baby came out in the toilet and haunted her for years this was also a very real possibility for this mother. Even in the state of Florida Ron Desantis hearbeat bill has Trisomy 18 under Circumstances to have an abortion and I agree with this whole heartily.
Soo true! The most eco friendly people I know r the homesteading mamas of 4 plus kids 🤣 they know how to grow what they eat, make what they use, don’t have single use anything in their homes, raise chickens and live off their land. Not like those LA vegans who have no clue how many animals died to sustain their “vegan” lifestyle 😒
Allie, thank you so much for your clear minded view as you share each story! You have such a great gift of communication, and we are blessed that you share it with us. God bless you and your family as you continue to fight the good fight of faith and truth!!!❤❤❤
My mother had severe endometriosis and went to her doctor to finally get a hysterectomy, she was told that she couldn't have one because miraculously she was pregnant! Her doctor told her (after tests) that the baby would be severely disabled and 'look like a monster'. She refused to have an abortion. The doctor was so concerned about the trauma seeing the baby would cause my mother that he convinced her to have a c-section under general anaesthetic. My brother is now 44 years old, he has no disability in any way, physically or mentally and in fact has his own 8 year old son. Doctors make mistakes all the time.
This ⬆️
Some drs have no bedside manners a monster really how rude even if he was different he is still a baby wonderfully made by God.
@@valjo15 absolutely! Imagine the trauma caused by such insensitivity! 😥
I’m assuming that hysterectomy wasn’t a full one cause you can not carry a pareancy without a functioning uterus.
She said she was going in for one but didn’t when she found out she was already pregnant.
I've had 4 sections. I was told my 4th child tested positive for down syndrome. I refused further testing and denied termination. She is 5 months now and is NOT down syndrome. My husband and I agreed on loving and taking care of her how ever God send her to us. Glad we trusted the most High God and surrender his will for us. P.s I've had an abortion 11 years ago and it was the biggest regret of my life.
Praise Jesus! He is so good 🥹
I also had an abortion 😞 the deep repentance I feel for that will always be with me. I regretted it the second I did it. But our God used that to wake me up from my darkness. He really does make all things for our good… even if it’s hard. Sending you love and prayers for your baby girl 💞✝️
Wow! This is why I do not trust doctors!! God is good ❤️
Sometimes I fear that some doctors want women to tie their tubes and get abortions because they fear the myth of overpopulation. I think many parents who fear having children with special needs are pressured into aborting them by their doctor’s. The doctor will insist that they are just doing their job and showing you your options. If you are looking for a Catholic Pro-life NaPro certified OBGYN or any type of pro-life doctor, you can find lists online. I am thankful that I found mine. She will never perform abortions, offer sterilization nor birth control. She was the one who discovered and treated my stage three endometriosis, celiac disease and Hashimoto. God bless all of the Christian doctors!
It’s always baffling to me how many of women have stories like this! Thank god for your bravery 💖
God Bless you and your family! Thank you for sharing your story. You are a wonderful mother. There is forgiveness for abortion, ask the Lord, confess, repent, and you will be forgiven! Take care 🙂 ❤
My husbands aunt lost a baby six months along because of congenital defects. She got pregnant again and the tests told her this baby had the same condition and she was offered an abortion. She declined the abortion and went through her pregnant prepared for heartbreak. Graham was born 26 years ago perfectly healthy and is now a lab tech at a major hospital.
Wonderful! I keep hearing so many stories about the doctors being wrong!
Amen 🥰🙏🏽
Wonderful that she had a CHOICE
@@ultravioletpisces3666she never viewed it as HER choice, she left it to nature because no human has the right to take away the life of another, and turns out the doctors were wrong. She is forever grateful for her convictions.
I’m 39 years old. I will be giving birth to my 4 child at age 40. Due to health reasons all of my children have been born by C-section and number 4 will be also. My 3rd child a girl was born on November 10, 2021 and has full trisomy 18. She’s now two years old. There are certainly challenges but many joys. There are many other children like my daughter who are older and thriving.
Thank you for sharing! ❤️ May God bless you and your family greatly!
Thank you for sharing! There are so many beautiful stories of Trisomy 18 children on RUclips alone - and you know there are even more out there just living private lives.
I can’t imagine they made national headlines over the utter necessity of terminating these special blessings - that has to hit families like yours hard 😞
Thank you for giving your daughter the gift of life despite having trisomy 18!!
@@Me-hf4ii it’s heartbreaking for sure. There’s a lot of discrimination in the medical industry against children born with the various trisomies. Many doctors really don’t like treating children with special needs. Sadly Ms Cox’s physicians have vastly overstated the risks to her health in carrying her precious baby. I pray God open her eyes.
Amazing, congratulations! Same, due to health issues I had six kids via c-section.
My aunt was given the diagnosis of Down syndrome for my cousin.. he didn’t end up having Down syndrome! He’s in his 20’s now. And this is why I declined testing both my children while they were in the womb. It didn’t matter anyway.
U dont know what they are actually doing either and yes this has happened and dr will push for aborting a ds baby. I refused to have the test. Had to sign that i refused it
There is another testament of Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ visited an ancient civilization soon after his resurrection. 3 Nephi 11! Seek out Jesus Christ!
They have much better tests now, less invasive and more accurate.
Children do belong to all of us in the sense that they are raised not just by the parents but also by the rest of society: family, teachers, peers, coaches, strangers. You aren't doing all of the guidance that raises your child into adulthood. In the first years you do a lot if not most of it but once the kids are approaching ten and getting into their teens, peers and social groups and teachers start having a huge impact too. Can't claim full credit for raising your kids.
@@billiemunchen the test is the same…. What are you talking about??
I had a similar diagnosis over 20 years ago before I was a born again christian. I had a DandE and have deeply regretted that painful decision. I was also ill informed about what would take place but now I know the horror of it. I pray that the Holy spirit would convict this woman and that she will choose to trust in the Lord and continue with this pregnancy. I also pray that Texas would stand firm for Life in all circumstances. I'm thankful for the Lord's forgiveness and redemption in my life. He blessed me with 3 beautiful children even after I took the life of my first child. I am unworthy but Jesus. The devil loves to tempt women to murder their children. In my opinion there is no greater assault against the Lord. Let us pray against the spirit of fear that is gripping this woman to cause her to make this choice. Allie I appreciate you talking about these hard topics and standing firm. I agree with everything you said. Empathy for the sad situation but standing strong that all life is valuable at every stage and every situation. Mothers were made to protect and sacrifice. Many blessings.
As a pediatric nurse who cares for these kids and being 20 weeks pregnant this makes me physically ill. This poor baby. I can’t even deal with people who won’t hold their dog during their last breaths I definitely can’t understand a mother not wanting to care and love for their child until the Lord takes them.
Agree, so so sad!!!!!
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My niece was diagnosed with Trisomy-18 when she was in the womb. She was born perfectly healthy with no chromosomal errors.
Praying the same happens with this baby. What a miracle!!!
I’m so sick of us prioritizing the wants and desires of the ADULTS over what is best and loving for innocent babies
So what’s the different of any parents that want children? Isn’t having a family a “selfish” desire as well? You can make it part of gods desire if you want, but it’s still putting what you want as well as your desire.
Yep! Well said! It needs to stop
Agree!
@@TheClimateChannelwe are commanded by God to be fruitful and multiply. It’s in our nature to want to reproduce because God made it good. God also commanded us to not have innocent blood on our hands and not to murder. Having an abortion is selfish because it puts our needs first instead of Gods. You’re taking away something God created because you think you know more than Him.
@@TheClimateChannel Well, isn't there a reason why human children are birthed by women and not men? Us women should bond with our children and lovingly care for them. Isn't the whole point that there's a difference between conceiving children the way humans naturally reproduce versus buying the eggs and renting the wombs of women who are kinda desperate for money, and then taking the baby away from its mother, all just because two men aren't willing to participate in the natural way humans are capable of reproduction but want children anyways? In the case of a lesbian couple, one of them can still be pregnant with the baby but men would rather make the baby go through all of that because of what they want?
What came to my mind is how will this mother explain to her older children what has "happened" to the baby they no doubt have begun to look forward to joining their family? Would she rather tell them their baby sibling died at natural birth or that she chose to end their baby sibling's life? Just picturing their little faces should be enough to make the right decision an easy one. I had a brother diagnosed with a form of spina bifida that would TODAY be eligible for termination. My parents were told he would not likely live beyond five years old. I am so glad he was born as my older brother. His life was hard. His life made my parent's lives hard. It was not easy, but he blessed us to the age of 49! My mother later had to birth a stillborn baby, but would never have elected abortion as a way out of a tough situation. I am so grateful!!
So true. Also, she says a main reason she wants to kill the baby is so they can have more children in the future and they don't want to use one of their C-sections on this baby since this baby will "die anyway". That is such a huge weight to put on those childrens' shoulders! Imagine knowing the only reason you are alive is beacuse your parents decided to kill your sibling so they could have you. This will be traumatic for all of their children indeed, born and unborn.
This is why i didnt do any of the genetic testing early in my pregnancy. ( currently 29 weeks with my first baby). I didnt need the stress of whatever the doctors would tell me, what would be the point of it. I dont believe in abortion and my child is my child no matter what. Cant wait to meet her in 10 weeks!!
Amen! Congratulations 🥰🙏🏽
I thought the same thing. The GP and OB asked about it three times each. I guess it's rare in my city to decline. 22 weeks now 😊
Prior to being pregnant, I thought it was harsh to criminalize women who do this. Now I’m 31 weeks pregnant with my first and I believe there is something seriously wrong with women who seek to do this to their children. Criminal charges doesn’t sound so crazy to me.
Yes girl! I can somewhat understand women who aren’t mothers or have never been pregnant being for abortion but for mothers to agree with that?! I can not wrap my head around that. Abortion always felt wrong to me on a gut level but before I had a baby I always kinda thought well I don’t know what’s it’s like so I didn’t feel comfortable to speak on it. But now as a mother! I will always protect life. I will lay down my life for my baby. Can’t relate to mothers who wouldn’t
I couldn’t agree more.
Plus this diagnosis is often wrong. I can't believe she doesn't want to at least meet this baby and see. I saw Joel Berry say that people with trisomy 18 often live long lives but abortion is included in the overall statistics so people think it's near fatal. Congratulations on your first pregnancy!
@@user-uz2vc1gc6vforced birth is not a thing like you’re making it out to be. The only “forced birth” is abortion, and it’s forcing the birth of a dead and dismembered baby.
@@user-uz2vc1gc6v Suffering, then death, that’s life in a nutshell for ALL of us.
Not one of us will make it through a lifetime on this planet without going through a lot of suffering. When I think about how much suffering my Grand mother had to go through before she died I’m reminded of the reality of life in this world.
Please go watch a video by a former abortionist doctor explaining in detail how a abortion is done to a 20 week old baby. Then tell me if allowing your own child in the womb to go through that so that YOU don’t have to suffer from loving a baby with special needs is a life well lived?
It’s simple. We either spend our lives loving God and loving other people or we don’t. Allowing your child to be cut to pieces in the womb is not love, it is pure evil.
You need to make up your mind, do you want to live the life of love (which will always include lots of suffering) or do you want to become evil.
It will always be a thousand times easier to become evil and live only for your own pleasure and ease.
It’s so easy to think evil is wrong when others commit it, but when I do it it’s totally fine.
As awful and painful as it would be, I would still want to hold my baby and let them feel loved even if only for a short time 😢she doesn’t want to have a baby with a fatal disease, but is ok with having it dismembered inside her!? This is so awful 😢
Agree, just terrible!!!!
Your comment isn’t fair.
An ultrasound around this time of gestation showed what the doctor said was a strong indicator that our baby had Trisomy 18 and that it was “incompatible with life”, she was just giving her facts and in no way pressuring to end his life, and she also told me that in many cases this indicator will go away on its own. His did. Even WITH a diagnosis the babies should never be murdered and it does make me wonder how many are flippantly given a diagnosis and aborted before the even reach term. Never to have truly had this “Incompatible with life” problem. Our son is 12 today and does not have trisomy 18.
We buried our son earlier this year at 4 days old. He was given a lethal diagnosis in utero at my 20-week anatomy scan. Allie is spot on. We empathize with the sadness of the situation but not her desire to terminate. It’s aggravating how hypocritical people can be in these situations. If a 5-year-old suffered an accident and became disabled or was given a lethal diagnosis from injuries, do we then kill the 5-year-old child? Obviously not. But for some reason those same mothers won’t fight for their babies while they are still growing in the womb. It’s pure selfishness. When we were given the option to terminate our baby at 20 weeks, the only reason to do so would have been purely selfish…. because it was hard to carry our son to term… because he may have severe disabilities if he lived, and we'd have to bear that.... because I’d have the pain of childbirth only to walk away empty handed from the hospital…. Yep. And I did it. And I don’t regret a thing because I loved the child in my womb in the same way I love my children outside the womb. It’s not about ‘my feelings’, it’s about their life. End of story.
Amen. And I’m so so sorry for your loss.
Gosh your story has tugged at my heart. I am so sorry for your loss! So sorry. But you are an amazing mama and showed undeniable love to your son. You did everything you should do as a mother for him.
So sorry for your loss 🙏🏽
I think people don't want to handle allllll of the money, time, and responsibility you need to handle a disabled (from the start) child. It's really hard and some people just can't handle it and who knows if they'd abuse or neglect the child because they never wanted it.
Video hasn’t dropped yet and I’m already sickened by seeing Shane Dawson in the thumbnail. I don’t like that guy. What a creep.
There's something definitely not right about him
Especially with his past I can’t believe he was allowed to “purchase “a child. No background check nothing just handing them off like they aren’t people.
You are right, there was no need at all to make this video. Don't like them, don't make videos about them.
u just another one hopping on the hate train
A friend of mine donated eggs for money and I considered it. I was so young and had no idea. I decided against it because “my” children would be out there. I’m so thankful I did.
I was so tempted to do this when I was young and broke. So glad I didnt. I would be going crazy knowing I had kids out in the world, not knowing if they were okay...
There is no morality in separating life from its loving natural way that it has been planned to be brought by ❤ As a 27yo woman I am proud you share your decision to withdraw from that transaction. Because the question is, once people start meddling with natural and loving conception, where can that take us, what is too much? Probably any meddling with artificial fertility is too much, imo ❤
God knows best. We can not go around trying to create and force life in a way that it simply is not meant to be.
On the other hand, I would stick to my view if I ever encountered infertility problems. I would try my best with the help of natural methods, but if still my body couldn’t bring about a life, then it’s my place to understand and accept that. I don’t think humans can take over and make decisions that go against physics and nature like that, aka, God. We can do that, but to our deteriment. And that of our environment. What’s meant to be is meant to be, in God’s measure.
I will never understand how anyone can want to rip their babies apart!!!!! I lost a baby at 36 it was a tubal pregnancy and I had a 19 year old daughter at that time losing that baby destroyed me!!! Then my daughter was in a motorcycle accident at 32 and lived in a vegetative state for 5 1/2 years until she passed at 37 years old leaving my 2 grandchildren without a Mom!
I’m so sorry. I can’t imagine your pain.
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This broke my heart. I’m so sorry.
Oh Shelly I’m so so sorry this breaks my heart for you and your grand babies 🙏🏻
I’m so so sorry. 🙏🏻
My parents were told my brother would have down syndrome and that they should abort. They were appalled. My brother didn't have down syndrome but would have been loved and cared for either way. He's now a husband and father. I'm so glad they weren't persued by the doctor and his ignorance in suggesting someone with down syndrome wasn't worthy of life.
My daughter was diagnosed with trisomy 13 mosaicism , hydrocephalus and heart defects . The only prognosis was death upon delivery or living life in a possible vegetive state . She’s 5 now and even though the trisomy (less than 4% of cells are abnormal praise Jesus ) and hydrocephalus remain she is a thriving , bubbly , talkative and fierce blessing ! Doctors don’t know everything and I’m so grateful to God that his ways are higher than mine ❤
Beautiful! Bless you, your family, and your beautiful little girl 🥰
Thank you for choosing to give your daughter life!!
WOW!!! God is sooo amazing! Praying for your daughter and your whole family! God truly has blessed you for your obedience and love for her!
Amen 🙏🏽
I was told the same thing. I knew God had bigger plans. I stopped going to the specialist bc I felt like she was pushing for an abortion and kept going to my normal OB. My daughter is perfect. They said she had other things upon birth and so far she has passed all testings. We currently are just waiting on one more thing. My friend also was told the same thing this year, despite them wanting for her to go out of state. Ps we live in Texas. She denied and went to have her baby this year too. She sadly passed upon delivery. However, she said that everything was worth it seeing her little girls smile. That is a mother. Willing to do do anything for their child. Sad to see some women lacking strength and courage.
I have a daughter with a chromosomal abnormality and she is the biggest blessing to our family. I wouldn't change her for all the money in the world. She is made in the image of God just like everyone else.
GOd has a sick sense of humor then
I had a baby boy with Trisomy 18 in October last year. He was 20 weeks. Breaks my heart to think people would abort him just because of his diagnosis. I would have loved him just as much as I love my living children and think about him often. I do thank the Lord that he is healthy and in the Father's hands now though! He wasn't diagnosed until we found out he was gone, but my living son was a false negative for down syndrome and he is very much not
Thank you for sharing. I’m so sorry for your loss.
I'm so sorry for your loss. God bless you and your family. Your sweet baby is in the arms of our Lord now.
So sorry for your loss 🙏🏽
There are MANY women who would gladly be prepared to adopt that baby immediately after birth regardless of the baby's medical status. I would be one of those women. I am licensed to foster/adopt through the state of Texas and I have told my agency that I am fully willing to take a child who is terminal. Because they deserve the best life possible for however long they are on earth. They deserve the unconditional love of a mother even if it's for a few hours. Not being dismembered in the womb. Disgusting.
Amen 💗🙏🏻
@@SpamAccount-ri7px this is a really unkind comment. She said she's trying to adopt in Texas. Do you know what it's like to long for a child and not have one? Have you ever tried to adopt? The process is long, hard, broken, and very expensive. There are many more parents who want to adopt than there are children. She's likely waiting to get a child and you're just being a troll on the internet.
God Bless you, you are a special soul for willing to do that 🙏 ❤️ I pray that the mother changes her mind!
The woman wanting a 20 week abortion HAS to be a psychopath. Especially after having children already. She is already a mother… and she can imagine ripping her baby apart and is FIGHTING for that??? Does she not feel any connection at all?? At 20 weeks you can usually feel your child moving!! Again, she’s gotta be a psychopath
To think that my aunt and uncle for years and years had to wade through the adoption system till they were able to adopt and these clowns can just rent a womb is insane. He is one of the last people that should be able to do this.
According to JAMA, Trisomy 18 babies have a 68.3% chance of survival if they get heart surgery and other appropriate care for their case.
God used me to talk a coworker out of a baby who tested positive for Down syndrome. That baby is now 13 years old and was not born with any syndromes of any kind.
I have nothing but empathy towards this woman having had 2 and a miscarriage myself. I wasn’t a Christian then but I believe God turns these things around for his benefit. We are nobody to cast judgement.
The comments he made about children were not that long ago either. Anyone capable of sexualizing children does NOT deserve their own. Sick
It is a crime to kill animals and baby animals but human babies don't get the same protections.
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I have a severely disabled child, and this story sickens me to my core. In our special needs community, I know 2 T18 sweet girls that are 2 and 4!!!!! (Different families) and we know a family that lost their T18 baby girl at 47 days old on the NICU.
The family that lost their sweet baby girl at 47 days are absolutely devastated, and I know they would do anything to hold their child for even just 1 more day.
The grounds at which Cox is making this argument is so ridiculous, and I pray that this continues to expose the need of further protection for children with special needs.
Yes!!! Protections!
No you don’t understand. Not until it’s you. question: how is adoption in your mind not traumatic and a broken bond from the bio parent. Because my trauma that my bio mom has inflicted on me by giving zero F**ks about giving me away the second I was born. She’s also denied me the right to meet my siblings and has sent me a letter saying I should never have been born. So no, adoption can be just as damaging as surrogacy when the bio mother rejects her child.
31:26- STOP putting all ivf users in the same category. I do not have any excess embryos.
I used limited insemination. I had to pay more to do this because clinics don’t want to limit their numbers. I don’t free any. All were implanted. I didn’t test my embryos. They are biologically mine and my husbands. One podcast explained it can be done morally. Please don’t lump all ivf together as the same.
I know a family that had a baby with trisomy 18 and I followed her journey on social media and it was a beautiful journey unfortunately, sweet girl did pass away when she was I believe one year old. Of course she had all the health problems that you stated and they took her home on lots of medical equipment, but they were able to enjoy her still the time they had with her and it was just beautiful and I think about that family a lot
@@SpamAccount-ri7pxThe baby was birthed alive and was loved at home. The same can be said for older people who are in pain and suffering. Many don’t just kill their elderly loved ones.
@@SpamAccount-ri7pxso you treat humans like you treat horses? You decide when their life gets to end?
She could be loving on her living baby while she's carrying her, trusting God for the rest. So tragic 💔.
I’m holding my 4 month old daughter while listening, and my heart breaks for the innocent babies in this episode
Congratulations 🥰🙏🏽
@@simple_naildesigns thank you!! 😊
All of my babies had to be delivered via c section. My first baby was a miscarriage unfortunately. My first born child was born via emergency csection because I had severe preeclampsia. He was fortunately born to term. And then my daughter was born 10 weeks early because I had severe preeclampsia again that turned into HELLPs. I had pushed myself to the brink of almost dying because I didn't want her born too early and I was trying to protect her as long as possible. They wanted to deliver her at 27/28 weeks, and we made it work another 2.5 weeks. Or I should say - GOD made it possible to be born at 30 weeks. But my husband and I knew that she was my priority and I would have died to save her life. But I remember even around 24 weeks, the doctors said it was a shame I couldn't have made the decision to abort her because of low birth weight (this was literally after only one scan). And I told them what they could do with their attitudes toward my child. Funny how the next scan showed she was just fine on weight and they were full of it. But regardless, she was still born early and we spent 57 days in the NICU. But, God was there the whole time. He saved both us and helped us both through one of the hardest times in our lives. But csections are not dirty words nor are they something to be afraid of. I am grateful for Csections because they saved us both. I hate that this woman has used political ideology to push the abortion agenda. I have a hard time calling her a mother when she cared so little about her baby that she would rather dismember her baby instead of hold her. I can't relate to that kind of thinking. I can relate to be scared and I can relate to worry and fear. But I can't relate to the thoughts of "I don't want to deal with it, so I will just kill my child." Because that's all this is. She doesn't want to deal with it. Her daughter could be born just fine, or her daughter could live just a few short minutes, or not all. But, her daughter's life was worth doing anything and everything to protect her and love her. I didn't want to deal with the possibility of my daughter dying, or being in the NICU much longer than we were, or dealing with possible disabilities. We didn't know what would happen either. But, you don't quit on your child. You don't say "I can't deal, so your life should be taken away." This is a culture of death that preys on these vulnerable women going through heartbreaking situations like this.
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Thank you for being a champion for children. God bless you Allie Beth. You are a real Christian. This work you do is VERY IMPORTANT. People need to learn from you.
My sister also had a Trisomy 18 baby. From her first ultrasound she was given the diagnosis. The doctors gave her the option of having an abortion, but she wouldn’t. Gods will would be done. She carried her baby girl to term and gave birth knowing that her daughter probably wasn’t going to live. My sister’s sweet baby girl lived 12 precious hours and we all got the chance to hold her and say goodbye.
It was heartbreaking but also such a beautiful memory we were able to be apart of because she didn’t abort.
So sorry for your loss 🙏🏽
My cousin was born with trisomy 18 and lived 5 beautiful months. Can you imagine having the opportunity to have a daughter for 5 months or even longer and instead choosing to murder her? Literally rip her body apart? I fail to see how how anyone in the pro choice movement has the hubris to believe that they get to decide when an innocent baby's life can end. Hell will be full of people like this.
I lost my son at 21 wks his heart stopped beating and I had a VBAC after 2 C-section . The doc did bring up alternative deliveries but it sound to horrible to perform for baby boy who had passed I can’t imagine performing that to a live baby. It was also some what healing to hold him and say good bye after he was born
So sorry for your loss 🙏🏽
I didn’t think about reproductive technology, my mind has opened and it breaks my heart for the innocent children ❤
Jesus Christ died for our Sins according to the scriptures and that he was Buried and that he rose again the third day praise God praying for everyone everyday God bless you all
Can’t believe they allowed Shane Dawson someone who’s said pictures of CP was sexy to have a baby. It’s a sad world we live in now
He and Ryland are going to be great parents. Don’t condemn someone over a bad joke that was obviously a mistake and not at all funny. People on the internet say dumb things sometimes just to get a reaction.
It is not a crime. He was not convicted of anything. We have free speech. There have been actual straight parents molest their own children and not get them taken away.
that wasnt the only joke me made about children..."obviously"
@@sugarspiceandlottarice8877 well find something illegal and turn the evidence over to the authorities if it bothers you so much....or get a hobby besides following two fathers that you hate.
The proper pronunciation is with a long 'i' sound. The prefix 'tri' meaning three. Trisomy 18 means that the child has three copies of chromosome 18.
My mom had 5 c sections(I was her first and I was an emergency c section)and she’s fine. Crazy “reasoning” on her end. Wow. I hope that she comes to her senses and embraces her little one before she gets called home
This just goes to show how desperate we are as humans for control, I pray that mother takes this opportunity to rely fully on the Lord through such painful circumstances - to know that the peace she’s looking for is in Christ alone 🙏🏼
Shame on her HUSBAND for allowing this and for NOT setting a Godly example for his family!
Ryland lying there in that photo infuriates me. He has absolutely not a single iota of what a woman’s body sacrifices when bringing a soul into the world. As a mother of 4, both Ryland and Shane are a disgrace and I pray Jesus has mercy on their souls. Those poor babies, they miss their mother.
I feel the woman in TX needs to go through intensive therapy to talk about humanity and her feelings towards birth. To me, this has nothing to do with Christianity or any religious stance. I feel there is a severe possibility that the woman is terrified to meet her child, the love of her life, only to meet them dead or lose them any day. People grieve differently. Some who lose a loved one will go all in and do everything to lay them to rest, whereas their sibling can barely attend the funeral. We do need to have compassion for the mother! Also, taking into account hormones affect her decisions.
This is the only reasonable comment under this entire video. Bravo
I feel for the mother. Yet the doc diagnosis isn’t always correct. A church family was told their daughter was going to have down syndrome by their doctor and told to abort. They said no. They of course prayed and the baby girls is now 5 years old and normal. The mother must be scared but she’s honing to regret the abortion
Good point on the egg “donation “. Using this logic of the law means a person can buy heroin but not be convicted because they are not buying the heroin, they are paying them for their time and trouble.
Well a lot of people do agree with that because going to jail doesn’t help people stop being addicted to heroin, so this isn’t really an accurate analogy
Your words speak biblical truth about love. One more thought...what mother wouldn't want to love and hold her child to comfort it in its last moments if this is the outcome from this pregnancy? Caring for an unhealthy child would be the other scenario...what mother wouldn't do that? Being a mother is never easy...being a godly mother makes it easier to never contemplate taking the 'easy' road and simply allow your child to be 'medically killed' to spare you from doing the most difficult thing a mother could ever be called to do.
Amen to that 🙏 I pray that this mother will change her mind!
I don't believe there's honor in sacrificing needlessly. We have enough empathy to put animals down when they are in pain yet want a child to choke to death...
@katieholmes8661 Nobody wants a child to choke to death. We just don't have the right to decide who lives or dies, and when. It's a terrible situation and a very dangerous precedent.
@@katiemylady76 you know there’s palliative care…
I’ve had 2 c-sections. Pregnant now… want to TOLAC but will do whatever is best for baby… even if that results in me losing my uterus (cuz that is *always* an increased risk once you have even had ONE c-section - that is where Cox’s risk comes from… not from the baby.)
With my firstborn, I was told he had a severe heart defect, something wrong with the placenta, and Down’s syndrome. I was told he had a 60% chance of dying in the womb, and a 90% chance of never making it home. That IF he made it home, he would have no quality of life and would be a burden to us for the rest of his life and “how are you going to take care of him?”
I was also told that the longer I stayed pregnant the more likely I would die. And that I was just prolonging the inevitable by not terminating.
My son is about to turn 10 now. He’s perfectly healthy. Doesn’t have DS, the “heart defect” cleared up at 33 weeks, and the placenta issue cleared up at 28 weeks. I had a scary horrible first 2 trimesters and a totally normal 3rd trimester.
He is the light of my life. I wouldn’t be who I am today without him. My husband wouldn’t be who he is without our son. We are both better people because of him.
I knew when I was pregnant with him, that his life was not mine to take. His life was mine to protect and care for for as LONG as I could. I do not understand women who would voluntarily allow a butcher to rip apart their child under any circumstances… let alone over prophecies of doom and fetal diagnoses - diagnoses that you CANNOT confirm until birth. Cox is killing her baby girl in the most barbaric way imaginable over “what ifs” 😞
My close friend was told her baby had this ... The test was wrong.
Praise the Lord.
No matter what, however. They were going to have her, love her and care for her.
I never knew all that went into IVF and surrogacy… thank you for opening my eyes 😢
I just can't even imagine turning my back on my child before she's even been born. 😢 Luckily for her first two children, they were born "normal" bc her love is absolutely conditional.
No offense Allie, but you were very harsh and you really don’t understand her position. Yes, she is being used as a prop and being further traumatized by the abortion industry. But, here is a woman who is panicking about the possible thought of raising a severely disabled child. She is showing through this decision she has no one truly standing alongside of her to help her through the grieving process that this type of diagnosis comes with. And no one possibly offering to help raise this child if they live. And no one offering to help her grieve if they die at birth. She most likely googled trisomy 18 and was given a huge shock of what could happen if this child lived. I would always counsel anyone in this position to choose life and have done so in the past. I have an adult child with severe disabilities due to a different chromosomal disorder. Hearing his diagnosis was one of those PTSD moments. Very very traumatizing. But I had faith in God and some degree of support. She may have neither. It doesn’t justify at all what she wants to do, and I don’t agree with her decision at all, but I know that panic and devastation she is feeling right now.
I don't think her response was harsh at all. Allie has compassion for what this woman is going through. Truth can actually hurt sometimes, even when given in love. It's what one chooses to do after being convicted that speaks of their character.
When I was pregnant with my son who just turned one I spent most of it on bed rest in and out of the hospital. During one of my week long stays one of the nurses congratulated me for keeping my pregnancy because another woman was aborting her 24 week pregnancy because her doctor was putting her on bed rest, and she didn't want to deal with that.
That's sad. I just started to volunteer at our local pregnancy center because I feel like it's time to be part of the solution now. Too much abortion, not enough life giving pregnancy centers. The more support women have, the more encouraged they will be to keep their babies. I'm convinced!
Unbelievably sad, what kind of a mother would she be, let alone human being ?
Sick. Absolutely barbaric! Please Lord, help us! Thanks for speaking out on this issue and standing with innocent babies.
Do these people that think it’s so selfish to have kids think that their parents were selfish for having them?
Yes
The issue with "life of the mother" exceptions is that just being pregnant is an increased risk of death. Esp when some states maternal mortality risk is 60x higher than some european countries.
Yeah. And in Cox’s case, her increased risk comes from her surgical history. So she will have the exact same risk if she becomes pregnant again. Maybe that child will have polydactyly, or minor spina bifida, or be a boy when she wants a girl - will her “increased risk of rupture or hysterectomy” be used again to justify termination?
I happen to be gay and conservative. I'm engaged to my partner. He wants to have a child and I'm so torn... because, yeah, I feel like being a parent is such a gift and a (beyond) special part of the human experience. Why shouldn't I experience that? And yet, I firmly believe that it's a child's birthright to have both sexes for parents. The fact people deny the distinct benefits of both a mother and a father is a testament to unclear thinking. My partner wants to go the surrogacy route. However, while it would be magical to have my DNA (we agree that it would be mine), something in my heart feels that we should adopt. And I like what Allie said about adoption being redeeming VS surrogacy being creating. I have talked about this endlessly with family/friends and nobody seems to get it. I think, for selfish reasons, people lean toward blood above all... while I, personally, think that love is the most important for raising a child. Especially a child that can't find a home.
Thank you for sharing. I understand how strong the longing for a child is and I'm sure you'd love a child well. My question is: Why, if you know a mother and father are important, would you adopt and a deny a child that opportunity to have a mother? There are soooo many heterosexual couples that want to adopt but aren't chosen by birth mothers. What if the child you adopt would have been chosen by a mother and a father wanting to adopt?
@@hannahthehomesteader Thanks for the thoughtful response. To answer your question, I honestly haven't begun the process of adoption or looking into it so deeply yet... but, as Allie mentioned in this video (and I above)... adopting, for me, would be more of a redeeming thing. That is, with the knowing that a child was having a hard time being placed in a home and somehow my family could provide the nurture a child needed. I don't know if it's always true that heterosexual couples are being turned away for same-sex parents, but I understand your perspective.
I think you are very mature and show great character to be thinking the way you are. Most people only think about their own needs and wants and not about children’s rights.
You are right that it is every child’s right to grow up with both his/her father and mother. The book “Being There” by Erica Komisar is a good read that explains why both mothers and fathers are so important for a baby. It’s quite fascinating, our differences in hormones etc. make mothers and fathers very different in how we treat a baby and both are important.
If you are interested in adoption it shows you truly care about children and probably already have a father’s heart for children. My husband and I did both foster parenting and started the process to adopt before we became pregnant. We were passionate about potentially adopting older children since so many couples only want babies and toddlers (again mostly because of selfish reasons). There are so many older children in foster care waiting for a loving home and nobody wants them because most couples want a baby or toddler without any special needs. There is definitely a child out there who’s greatest dream is for someone like you to choose him/her.
Surrogacy is such a bad idea because it hurts the children in many ways. I understand that it’s a tempting route for many couples but few have educated themselves on how surrogacy hurts the child.
Did you watch the interview on this channel where Allie interviewed an adult woman who was conceived via surrogacy, it’s also an informative interview.
I wonder if you have considered how incredibly difficult it is for men to care for infants? For pretty much the first year, most babies only want mom. There's been many times when my husband is comforting a screaming baby and the minute I take over, the baby calms down. And I know instinctively how to deal with situations that my husband does not. We downplay gender roles in modern culture but if ever there was an appropriate context for them, it's infant care.
Considering this factor, it may be more beneficial to all involved to consider adopting children in the foster system rather than an infant.
I just don’t understand how people bash this example with Shane & Ryland but support straight couples going through IVF or fertility treatments. I shuts support anyone that wants to be a loving parent, no matter their route, blood or not.
When I was pregnant with my first child I got told she had down syndrome and I didn’t want to continue with the testing, I just prayed to God for His will to be done and not mine or what the doctors said, I’m so glad I did, she is now 6 years old. Praise God!!
I am not sure admittedly I haven’t researched this but I do know some mothers of babies with anecephaly will carry to term and make a donation to Gift of Hope. They derive comfort that their babies will help another baby.
Whether that is possible in this circumstance as I said I do not know.
I am sad for this mother. I think she will regret the action she is taking and I hope she is not being unduly influenced by those that hold her up as an example of choice.
Agree, Allie. It’s completely dystopian. My heart breaks for those babies.
Comparing surrogacy to prostitution and child trafficking is probably the most accurate description I've heard. So sad and twisted.
Lol what??? This is all optional, no one is forced to participate. At all.
@@MelissaMabe The point is babies are being sold.
Oh my word, I’m so glad you are talking about this. Those poor baby boys, it’s devastating 💔Praying for those poor little boys 🙏
"I'm going to assume you're stupid in some very very important ways." LOL, touche!
I know of a women who had 9 c sections and another women who had placenta acreta and had a healthy baby but had to have a hysterectomy during the delivery due to it attaching to uterus and surrounding tissue. Also have a friend who had a c section ectopic pregnancy where the baby implants into the scar from previous c section and as baby grows it rips the scar open she had to terminate the pregnancy due too internal bleeding and was deeply saddened by it and it was truly a life or death case
Stop judging them it’s their life. They deserve to have children just like everyone else
I totally agree with you
"They deserve"?
You know what... babies DESERVE to be raised with their mother and father. They DON'T DESERVE to be purchased like some lifeless commodity - being stripped of any assemblance of normalcy - just for the happiness of gay men.
Not everyone can produce children. Just because they are two guys doesn’t mean that their kids will grow up any different.
@@Antnj81people who talk like you are the problem. You are the one babies shouldn’t be raised around
@@Antnj81Let me rephrase that for the op…they deserve the chance to be good parents like everyone else. If having both a mother and father is more important, what if the mother was abusive, but Shane and Ryland are fully ready to be good parents? Then the baby should go with the abusive mom/dad just because they could conceive naturally? Because I’m not sure if you’re aware, being able to conceive naturally doesn’t always guarantee good parents and a happy life.
And give me a break about the “purchasing babies”, you’re acting like there’s some black market baby shop that they bought from, instead of researching and going through this whole process with the surrogate, using their own dna, in a completely legal process.
Doctors told me that my daughter was measuring to have a smaller head than normal when I was pregnant with her. my husband was extremely worried about it but after praying, God spoke to me and said, "she is perfecly well " and I continued to believe and declare that. Never once did ee consider an abortion. And my daughter was still born perfectly healthy just like Jesus had told me.❤ Doctors definitely do not have the last word.
I'm sure shane and ryland are superior parents and the boys are going to see them as their fathers and are gong to be so loved. Have you talked to the donor or the surrogate? Do they feel like they are being victims of prostitution and human trafficking? You are talking a bunch of bullshit, do you have any scientific evidence that these children are gong to be permanently wounded because of egg donation and a surrogate mother? I can tell you one thing though, I AM permanently wounded after growing up in a dysfunctional family with drug and alcohol abuse and THAT my friend is why every person is not suitable to become a parent, WHERE were god in that situation huh? I would rather grow up with Shane and Ryland or any other gay couple than what I grew up in.
It is terrible to hear how an abortion is performed, but so many people have no idea that this happens. Please keep educating people. As a mom of a child who knew my child would be born with spina bifida , i would make the same choice every time. She is now 17 and the love of my life.
But would SHE make that choice? Consider how you’re impacting HER with your selfishness
Two men shouldn’t be allowed to adopt, let alone hire a surrogate for twin boys! I pray that God protects these babies and shields them from abuse 🙏🏻
The babies will be fine. They’ll have a way better life than most of us.
Yes hopefully they’ll be shielded from getting spoiled and loved! 😱
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Sometimes they are wrong that baby could be perfectly fine I've seen sooo many cases I pray she keeps her baby this is murder it's so sad story
I'm a mom who had a baby girl, stillbirth at 37 weeks and 3 days. A week before her due date and at a checkup, we hear no heartbeat. unknown cause to her death. She is not right. This woman is not right. She wants popularity. I have never regretted holding my Lily. this breaks my heart. Even if I knew she would pass, I would still carry her again. To hold her again. Why not carry her baby and hold her baby. Oh, this is so terrible. I know that Jesus is holding my baby now.
It’s not easy seeing these babies going to these people who are LOST and perverted mentally. Truly saddening.. We gotta keep all the kids in our prayers and even pray for these LOST & broken individuals. 🙏🏽✝️❤️
They are their biological sons. Those are THEIR children.
@@MelissaMabe they can’t conceive children between the two of them. Let’s not pretend this is natural.
I can have empathy for the understanding of what she will go through when she delivers a baby that could die a week later. And experiencing that would be so difficult.
But we have to go through hard things sometimes and we can’t always avoid them. Having an abortion for the sake of avoiding a difficult emotional battle is a pathetic excuse.
Adopt don't shop
It’s all heartbreaking! Due to health issues I had my six kids via c-section.
Even state schools push these crazy ideologies. My university had a mandatory American history class and the professor of that class told us that his main goal in teaching was to start a radical communist revolution to end capitalism in the US. This was a state university in Missouri. As a college student I didn't think much about what he was saying or how he was influencing students, but looking back I can't believe he was allowed to teach.
This is her, her husband and her Dr decision not the State's.
What are your thoughts on leftover embryos being donated or adopted by an infertile couple? The biological parents are not going to have more children and not going to use the leftover remaining embryos.What’s to be done with those frozen unwanted embryos? Just curious.
35:40 I think she’d support it :)
Your face ALLIE on the cover of the video is ACCURATE to my own. 😂🤦♂️😤
So happy for Shane and Ryland!
Same. Like she seems more triggered about the facts that’s there’s surrogates rather than them going through one. 😐
Same so happy for shane and Ryland
Same 💙💙
she seems very against surrogacy, wonder if she would feel the same if it was a heterosexual couple
Same it’s really sad that people like this have kids of their own. Clearly she doesn’t know what it’s like not being able to reproduce.
Going the surrogate route is absolutely not 'human trafficking.' So if a woman is incapable of carrying her own child she should be condemned to never having children? If two gay men want to bring a beautiful life into this world they shouldn't be shamed in doing so. I had a mother and father who abandoned me and were abusive but because they were straight and I grew up with my biological parents its okay. You're saying the babies have given 'no contest' to be put through this process but isn't that the case for all? I don't remember my 5 month old son contest to be his mother. If I had a c-section does that make me a horrible mother because I didn't ask my baby if he was okay with it. It's absurd. Children are beautiful creations and as long as Shane and Ryland are able to meet the needs of those two boys there is no issue with it. Spend your time focusing on all the kids in abusive homes, foster care and who are actually being neglected. No human should be shamed in wanting to create a beautiful life whether its from there own bodies or someone else's.
My mom had 7 c-sections!!
Her last pregnancy was twins that were full term, weighing 7lb 5oz and 7lbs 3 oz!!
Amazing 🥰🙏🏽
You wouldn’t be mad if there was a picture of a straight dad laying exhausted next to his baby, which happens all the time. I do feel like children need their mother but that was a cherry-pick that you wouldn’t say if they were straight and their wife had just given birth and someone snapped a pic of a tired dad
Eye opening for me! Such a sad situation with surrogacy
I pray that when the moment arrives and she does meet her daughter she will be grateful it happened the way it did. Her pain is clouding her judgement in this moment but God is in control of this story. True love will prevail in this bittersweet situation...
Last I heard she fled the state to have her baby dismembered. If that’s true, she will never see her. Her tiny, broken body will be tossed in an incinerator. She will never be held. She will never be comforted. She will never even be named.
We are now living in Rome before the fall.
She was able to access an abortion in another state.
Beware of Toxic empathy!!! Amen and amen 🙏🏽
My heart goes out to any child Shane Dawnson raises. 😞 He is disgusting.
Surrogacy is fully legal in Canada, what are you talking about?
Paying surrogates in Canada is illegal. You can only reimburse expenses. It's meant to be a gift to parents, not an industry.
Allie, you are so RIGHT ON!!
I am a very pro life person even in cases of rape I would hope the woman would give the baby up for adoption. I disagree with the pro life community on this. Trisomy 18 is almost a certain death why would you expect a mom to go through a pregnancy that’s going to end in almost certain death. That seems like torture for a woman to go through the rest of her pregnancy knowing the baby is going to die. The Pro life community needs to have some common sense on these matters. She didn’t want an abortion she wanted the child up until the time she found out her baby had Trisomy 18. Still births are extremely devastating my mom had one and the baby came out in the toilet and haunted her for years this was also a very real possibility for this mother. Even in the state of Florida Ron Desantis hearbeat bill has Trisomy 18 under Circumstances to have an abortion and I agree with this whole heartily.
Soo true! The most eco friendly people I know r the homesteading mamas of 4 plus kids 🤣 they know how to grow what they eat, make what they use, don’t have single use anything in their homes, raise chickens and live off their land. Not like those LA vegans who have no clue how many animals died to sustain their “vegan” lifestyle 😒
Amen!!
Allie, thank you so much for your clear minded view as you share each story! You have such a great gift of communication, and we are blessed that you share it with us. God bless you and your family as you continue to fight the good fight of faith and truth!!!❤❤❤