You forgot The Weyrs of Pern. This book goes back to the original colony. The AI computer that was left behind and was instrumental in reestablishing the technology that they were supposed to have but lost when they fled the volcanic eruption and had to go North. The tech that helped them rid themselves of thread finally! A fabulous book!
Chat gpt did fairly well on this overview to a point. It does fall short on describing the full series in several ways. Renegades of Pern is but a single novel in a series of 24 books written primarily by Anne McCaffrey however her son Todd McCaffrey has co-written and solo authored several titles in the series, tho his books are generally set in the Third Pass several hundered years after Dragonsdawn and about 1,000 years before Dragonflight. Througout the course of Pern's publication we're given stories set in multiple eras hundreds of years apart. The coverage on Dragonsdawn, and the First Trilogy and the Harper Hall trilogy was generally accurate and the accompanying visuals works pretty well with the tone and vibe of Pern overall. Ultimately just glad to see more Pern related media being put out so thanks for making this.
Thanks! I don't see too much appreciation for Pern these days. I decided to give it a shot to test the possibilities of AI-generated video. I used a tiny bit of my own script to inform the video but the visuals don't always work. Some of the pronunciation is off too. But I will return to explore Pern without AI later.
@@FALCOMHQ AI when applied to Pern sort of feels world appropriate due to AIVAS being such a part of things in All the Weyrs of Pern. I'd thought for a while that it'd be wonderful to have an AI emulation of Anne's own voice, but at the moment that seems to be seen as an inappropriate thing to do, tho I personally think Anne would get a kick out of it.
@@braendyn Very true. I'd hope to get to explore the other concepts in the Pern series. My entry point was Dragonsdawn. It was the second novel I ever bought with my own money. I'd like to do for Pern what Quinn's Ideas did for Dune. Maybe with time.
@@FALCOMHQ Same inflection point for me. Dragonsdawn was my first venture into Pern and with the Eragon series coming from Disney and the success of Httyd I think there's some hope for it someday recieving it's proper place in pop cultural significance. Are you familiar with the yt channel "Between two Perns"?
There was one major mistake near the beginning of this video, which was somewhat rectified later, and that is that Fire lizards and dragons are one and the same. They are not. The fire-lizards are coastal species that live in the tropics and subtropics, where they feed on marine creatures. They are eusocial creatures, living in groups divided into castes denoted by the colour of their hides. The most numerous have green hides, and are egg layers. There are three males castes, listed in order of population percentage: blues, browns and bronzes. The final caste, which are again egg layers, have golden yellow hides. Perhaps here I ought to note that the so-called 'metallic' coloured fire-lizards are never stated to actually have metallic elements in their hides. A colony of fire lizards is dominated by one, or a very small number of, the golden egg-layers, often called 'queens'. They mate with the male, generally a bronze, but occasionally a brown, that is able to catch them during a mating flight. The eggs are laid on a beach where the sand gets plenty of sunlight and maintains a stable warmth so the eggs can incubate. The queen mother is diligent in caring for her clutch, often attacking creatures much larger than herself to defend her eggs from predation, and even occasional inanimate threats, such as exceptionally high tides. When the eggs hatch, the young fire lizards are almost wholly independent, but need the guidance of the colony's adults in finding food. These clutches may contain one or two eggs that Hatch golden queens. Green fire lizards often sneak away from their natal colony to mate and lay eggs, but they are poor mothers, and if the eggs do make it to hatching, they only hatch more green firelizards. Far from being immune to Thread, fire lizards have two highly specialised adaptations to deal with it. One is the evolution of a blind digestive tract, and extremely strong teeth and jaw muscles, that allows the fire lizards to process small pieces of a rock that is rich in phosphine chemicals. These chemicals are liberated on contact with the digestive stomach secretions and are belched up in gas form, to ignite on contact with oxygen, allowing the fire lizard to 'breathe fire'. It is these flames that the lizard uses to burn strands of falling Thread to black ash. The other defence mechanism they have it to self teleport out of danger... an ability that seems fairly instinctive. The creatures known as 'dragons' are a genetically engineered life form, using the genes of fire lizards as the base, with various adjustments such as an increase in size, arrangement and number of digits and so on. 'Dragonsdawn' covers this event, and the companion book, 'A Dragonlover's Guide to Pern' gives details on these adjustments, as well as many other matters such as the social arrangemets, major settlements, and so on.
1. Technology is not shunned; they just don't have advanced tech at the beginning of the series (0:09). 2. Fire lizards are not dragons; they are their own species and while they still exist in Pern, they are also the ancestors of dragons (0:25). 3. Thread is not a constant menace. Thread falls when the Red Star gets near enough to the planet of Pern for the space fungus Thread to fall on Pern. When this happens, Threadfall lasts for about fifty years, but there are centuries (200 or 400 years) between the periods where Thread falls on the planet. The people of Pern, at the start of the first book, Dragonflight, even think Thread is a myth or no longer something to worry about (1:02). 4. Dragons cannot breathe fire on their own; they need to chew a phosphine-bearing rock (1:10). 5. Thread is not necessarily evil. It does not follow the concepts of human intelligence; The Dragonriders of Pern is more about a struggle between people and the dangers of nature (1:48). 6. Thread does not "destroy organic matter in its path", it burrows into organic matter and uses that to expand and grow. That is why it is important to kill it, either with dragon fire, the extreme cold of The Between, or with the grub they engineered to eat Thread (2:15). 7. The Dragonriders of Pern is not the next series. Dragonsdawn itself is part of The Dragonriders of Pern series. The original trilogy, which is falsely referred to as the series, is also called The Dragonriders of Pern, which can lead to some confusion. Nevertheless, chronologically, there are thirteen books between Dragonsdawn and Dragonflight (3:20). 8. This is more of a wording gripe than a correction, but "Lessa, a young woman hiding in plain sight" is just garbage. It implies that women need to disguise themselves as men on Pern, which is not the case. She is "hiding in plain sight" because she is the rightful heir to Ruatha Hold, which is currently ruled by a conqueror (3:42). 9. Just saying Lessa is the last surviving member of the ruling family is misleading; there are multiple 'ruling families' on Pern--one for each hold. Lessa is only the heir to one of them (3:50). 10. More pedantry, but "impress a dragon queen" isn't 100% accurate. The 'i' in impress should be capitalized in the captions (4:01). 11. We meet Jaxom in Dragonflight when he is born (4:28). 12. The Harper Hall Trilogy starts in between Dragonquest and The White Dragon, both chronologically and in publication order (5:11). 13. Harper Hall is not the center for all learning on Pern. Music and history, yes. Blacksmithing (as an example), absolutely not (5:53). 14. You are referring to dragons here. Dragons were genetically engineered from the native fire lizards (6:45). 15. The Renegades of Pern is a book, not a series (7:14). 16. Racism alert! Seriously, it is poor taste to use a picture of indigenous people to represent outlaws (7:42). 17. Confusing dragons and fire lizards again (8:27). Final Thoughts: As a gen Z-er who found the series around 2018 and has only read the original trilogy and looked at online resources at this point, I could have missed some inaccuracies. That being said, this video gets many details of the series wrong, even from the relatively little that I know. From the list above, I consider eleven of the errors to be egregious (not including the repeats of 'dragon or fire lizard'). I just have to wonder if this channel's only exposure to the series is an AI summary.
I gave up at the three minute point. So many wrong statements. Why pictures of futuristic cities, spaceships and fliers? None of which have anything to do with Pern. I watched a far better Pern documentary on here last night.
Such a disappointment..... BAD illustrations.....and vapid narration..... Boooooo!!! (and I first saw the Pern books in high school in the early 1970s....)
You forgot The Weyrs of Pern. This book goes back to the original colony. The AI computer that was left behind and was instrumental in reestablishing the technology that they were supposed to have but lost when they fled the volcanic eruption and had to go North. The tech that helped them rid themselves of thread finally! A fabulous book!
Yes, I was hoping this would be mentioned. I will be creating another video about Pern sometime soon. It's one of my favorite series.
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Chat gpt did fairly well on this overview to a point. It does fall short on describing the full series in several ways. Renegades of Pern is but a single novel in a series of 24 books written primarily by Anne McCaffrey however her son Todd McCaffrey has co-written and solo authored several titles in the series, tho his books are generally set in the Third Pass several hundered years after Dragonsdawn and about 1,000 years before Dragonflight. Througout the course of Pern's publication we're given stories set in multiple eras hundreds of years apart. The coverage on Dragonsdawn, and the First Trilogy and the Harper Hall trilogy was generally accurate and the accompanying visuals works pretty well with the tone and vibe of Pern overall. Ultimately just glad to see more Pern related media being put out so thanks for making this.
Thanks! I don't see too much appreciation for Pern these days. I decided to give it a shot to test the possibilities of AI-generated video. I used a tiny bit of my own script to inform the video but the visuals don't always work. Some of the pronunciation is off too. But I will return to explore Pern without AI later.
@@FALCOMHQ AI when applied to Pern sort of feels world appropriate due to AIVAS being such a part of things in All the Weyrs of Pern.
I'd thought for a while that it'd be wonderful to have an AI emulation of Anne's own voice, but at the moment that seems to be seen as an inappropriate thing to do, tho I personally think Anne would get a kick out of it.
@@braendyn Very true. I'd hope to get to explore the other concepts in the Pern series. My entry point was Dragonsdawn. It was the second novel I ever bought with my own money. I'd like to do for Pern what Quinn's Ideas did for Dune. Maybe with time.
@@FALCOMHQ Same inflection point for me. Dragonsdawn was my first venture into Pern and with the Eragon series coming from Disney and the success of Httyd I think there's some hope for it someday recieving it's proper place in pop cultural significance.
Are you familiar with the yt channel "Between two Perns"?
@@braendyn I am not. I am curious. I'll have to look them up!
My life started with my mom's love of pern. I'm Sharra
My mom shares Anne McCaffrey's birthday
There was one major mistake near the beginning of this video, which was somewhat rectified later, and that is that Fire lizards and dragons are one and the same. They are not.
The fire-lizards are coastal species that live in the tropics and subtropics, where they feed on marine creatures. They are eusocial creatures, living in groups divided into castes denoted by the colour of their hides. The most numerous have green hides, and are egg layers. There are three males castes, listed in order of population percentage: blues, browns and bronzes. The final caste, which are again egg layers, have golden yellow hides. Perhaps here I ought to note that the so-called 'metallic' coloured fire-lizards are never stated to actually have metallic elements in their hides.
A colony of fire lizards is dominated by one, or a very small number of, the golden egg-layers, often called 'queens'. They mate with the male, generally a bronze, but occasionally a brown, that is able to catch them during a mating flight. The eggs are laid on a beach where the sand gets plenty of sunlight and maintains a stable warmth so the eggs can incubate. The queen mother is diligent in caring for her clutch, often attacking creatures much larger than herself to defend her eggs from predation, and even occasional inanimate threats, such as exceptionally high tides. When the eggs hatch, the young fire lizards are almost wholly independent, but need the guidance of the colony's adults in finding food. These clutches may contain one or two eggs that Hatch golden queens. Green fire lizards often sneak away from their natal colony to mate and lay eggs, but they are poor mothers, and if the eggs do make it to hatching, they only hatch more green firelizards.
Far from being immune to Thread, fire lizards have two highly specialised adaptations to deal with it. One is the evolution of a blind digestive tract, and extremely strong teeth and jaw muscles, that allows the fire lizards to process small pieces of a rock that is rich in phosphine chemicals. These chemicals are liberated on contact with the digestive stomach secretions and are belched up in gas form, to ignite on contact with oxygen, allowing the fire lizard to 'breathe fire'. It is these flames that the lizard uses to burn strands of falling Thread to black ash. The other defence mechanism they have it to self teleport out of danger... an ability that seems fairly instinctive.
The creatures known as 'dragons' are a genetically engineered life form, using the genes of fire lizards as the base, with various adjustments such as an increase in size, arrangement and number of digits and so on. 'Dragonsdawn' covers this event, and the companion book, 'A Dragonlover's Guide to Pern' gives details on these adjustments, as well as many other matters such as the social arrangemets, major settlements, and so on.
Yes, I autogenerated the video as part of a test last year. But this year I plan to produce more content that showcases Pern in a more holistic light.
There are things you got totally wrong 😢but you're pretty well on course 😉
1. Technology is not shunned; they just don't have advanced tech at the beginning of the series (0:09).
2. Fire lizards are not dragons; they are their own species and while they still exist in Pern, they are also the ancestors of dragons (0:25).
3. Thread is not a constant menace. Thread falls when the Red Star gets near enough to the planet of Pern for the space fungus Thread to fall on Pern. When this happens, Threadfall lasts for about fifty years, but there are centuries (200 or 400 years) between the periods where Thread falls on the planet. The people of Pern, at the start of the first book, Dragonflight, even think Thread is a myth or no longer something to worry about (1:02).
4. Dragons cannot breathe fire on their own; they need to chew a phosphine-bearing rock (1:10).
5. Thread is not necessarily evil. It does not follow the concepts of human intelligence; The Dragonriders of Pern is more about a struggle between people and the dangers of nature (1:48).
6. Thread does not "destroy organic matter in its path", it burrows into organic matter and uses that to expand and grow. That is why it is important to kill it, either with dragon fire, the extreme cold of The Between, or with the grub they engineered to eat Thread (2:15).
7. The Dragonriders of Pern is not the next series. Dragonsdawn itself is part of The Dragonriders of Pern series. The original trilogy, which is falsely referred to as the series, is also called The Dragonriders of Pern, which can lead to some confusion. Nevertheless, chronologically, there are thirteen books between Dragonsdawn and Dragonflight (3:20).
8. This is more of a wording gripe than a correction, but "Lessa, a young woman hiding in plain sight" is just garbage. It implies that women need to disguise themselves as men on Pern, which is not the case. She is "hiding in plain sight" because she is the rightful heir to Ruatha Hold, which is currently ruled by a conqueror (3:42).
9. Just saying Lessa is the last surviving member of the ruling family is misleading; there are multiple 'ruling families' on Pern--one for each hold. Lessa is only the heir to one of them (3:50).
10. More pedantry, but "impress a dragon queen" isn't 100% accurate. The 'i' in impress should be capitalized in the captions (4:01).
11. We meet Jaxom in Dragonflight when he is born (4:28).
12. The Harper Hall Trilogy starts in between Dragonquest and The White Dragon, both chronologically and in publication order (5:11).
13. Harper Hall is not the center for all learning on Pern. Music and history, yes. Blacksmithing (as an example), absolutely not (5:53).
14. You are referring to dragons here. Dragons were genetically engineered from the native fire lizards (6:45).
15. The Renegades of Pern is a book, not a series (7:14).
16. Racism alert! Seriously, it is poor taste to use a picture of indigenous people to represent outlaws (7:42).
17. Confusing dragons and fire lizards again (8:27).
Final Thoughts: As a gen Z-er who found the series around 2018 and has only read the original trilogy and looked at online resources at this point, I could have missed some inaccuracies. That being said, this video gets many details of the series wrong, even from the relatively little that I know. From the list above, I consider eleven of the errors to be egregious (not including the repeats of 'dragon or fire lizard'). I just have to wonder if this channel's only exposure to the series is an AI summary.
You left out what was the original end of the series, All the Weyrs of Pern.
I'm planning to return to the Pern series soon and go over its worldbuilding in more detail.
I gave up at the three minute point. So many wrong statements. Why pictures of futuristic cities, spaceships and fliers? None of which have anything to do with Pern. I watched a far better Pern documentary on here last night.
Do you have a link to that video?
@@FALCOMHQ ruclips.net/video/RBxiaTINVJk/видео.html
The bizzare history of the dragon riders of Pern
@@PeterSoden-eb6js Thank you!
Such a disappointment..... BAD illustrations.....and vapid narration..... Boooooo!!! (and I first saw the Pern books in high school in the early 1970s....)