Kindling Thrown into the Fire | Citroën P28
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- The Citroën P28 is one of the most often ignored armored vehicles fielded by the French military in 1940. It was an obscure half-track armored car that only offered mediocre performances and was theoretically limited to a training and perhaps propaganda role at first. However, the vehicle did end up seeing very limited combat because of the general collapse of the French military, though most vehicles appear to have fallen into German hands unharmed. They were ignored by their new owners, who appear to have promptly sent them to be scrapped.
Nonetheless, the vehicle has some interesting elements. It serves as the first armored vehicle of Uruguay, which would then go on to become a regular customer of American light tanks, acquiring M3A1s and then M24 Chaffees. The P28 is also one of the last combat vehicles using the Kégresse track system, an innovation originating from a French engineer in Imperial Russia, and which was experimented on heavily by the French in the 1920s, but somewhat fell aside, at least for armored vehicles, in the following decades, mostly because of the typical fragility of Kégresse tracks.
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Tout les blindés de l’armée Française 1914-1940, François Vauvillier, Histoire & Collections éditions,
Blindados Argentinos de Uruguay y de Paraguay, Ricardo Sigal Fogliani, Ayer y hoy editions
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An article by Marisa Belhote
Video mounted by Alexe 'Carpaticus' Pavel
Audio edited by Kraiger
Voicing by Stan Lucian
It's always a pleasure to see one of my articles voiced, and your French pronunciation is excellent Stan ! (I'm less well placed to judge your Spanish but it sounds good to me as well !)
His spanish is hit or miss, sometimes sounds like italian but it works for me.
2 man crew. A lovely idea from a bygone age. Commander doubling as gunner and loader, all while keeping the driver oriented. Oh And while maintaining situational awareness.
With that said, it's aesthetically pleasing. Easy to park. Probably street licenseable. I'd buy one if the service plan was good.
Fill that front roller with a decent wine . . . and wherever you go you will be welcomed by friend OR foe.
Better yet,Calvados . For that extra punch,no matter which way you look at it.
Citroen P28: exists on field in 1940
the Pz Kmpf III, IV & II crews: you serious..?
Imagine the terror of Paraguay's enemies if these steel beasts had appeared on the battlefield.
lol "steal beasts" paired with this cute looking but somewhat capabale little halftrack of war.
Fueron retenidos y "robados" por la aduana uruguaya en 1934, que tenía un gobierno filo-fascista, se reemplazó el cañón por una ametralladora browing 30mm y entró en servicio ese mismo año en la Guardia Metropolitana (un cuerpo militarizado de élite).
LindyBeige has a video about tankers in WWII who escaped an ambush by jumping their tank over a ditch/canal. Turns out the tank was a training tank, without true armor and that was what actually saved the crew, because it was faster and lighter than the official tanks.
Abbot of Chantry?
@@TanksEncyclopediaYT yes, possibly, it has been awhile.
Cromwell, wasn't it, it's a funny story, best part is that the crew didn't want to change tanks afterwards, they reckoned it would be bad luck, it had kept them alive so far lol
@@tictoc3148 redacted
@@TanksEncyclopediaYT do you mean died? Not that I'm aware,
I saw the remains at Uruguayan Metropolitan Guard HQ. I'm ashamed because it is an abandoned ruin.
His intended use was riot control.
Well, they look like they would have been fun to drive, but I wouldn’t want to take a hit in it.
i listen to these videos while i'm studying
Kinda looks like Sergeant Blast and Private Meekly car from the cartoon Wacky Races.
I believe you are referring to the “Special Surplus Six” which was clearly a superior vehicle to the P28.
I have a 3d print of this halftrack.
13:06 I saw it in person, a shame they don't try to restore it
2 man turret, 20mm anti material rifle and an LMg in the turret and you have a serviceable LAV
And modern armor
@@seankane8628 Not sure it could take much more armour with that engine.
A engine upgrade would be easy
@@neilwilson5785 Well they could have used armored steel instead of mild steel and it would be enough to stop rifles at least. With the aforementioned 20mm and LMG, it would be serviceable but still pretty mediocre. there's no point in doing that though given there's better designs available.
Stripping the superstructure and "armor" and converting to agricultural machine seems more appropriate.
Never seen this one before 👍
Really looks like a Panhard 178 but with tracks
Collapse of the French, Belgian and British militaries I think is fairer to say (Holland was after all declared neutral). These did soldier on I believe in the Vichy army, for what it was worth.
It doesn't matter what they produce citroen always use something different from all others
Yeah it's always shite 😂
Cute little abomination =3
But didn't the French already have P16? Or is the P16 only intended for armoured units instead of infantry?
From the first frame, I thought this would be about a collision between a tank and a half track...
Never saw this one before.
honestly this looks more like an armoured riot car at best
Could u maybe do the measurements in metric and imperial please
In the videos they are mentioned in yhe measurement for their respective country, so a US video would use yhe Imperial system, while a french vehicle would use the Metric. If you do want check, the actual written artivle behind this video which is found in the description provides both.
Ok thanks
In Uruguay they were use for riot control purposes
It would make a decent snow plow with some more power.
wow its so weird like a 6 winged dragonfly or a fish with limbs its just not quite there its a development stage
the germans probably looked at that lack of armour and said nope this isn't worth while just scrap them
Looks like something from steampunk
looks like a hotrod
Should have sent them to Poland - would be of some help in 1939 - could join up with equally terrible Polish armored cars.
Actually the Polish army used the chassis of the Citroen-Kegresse B2 10CV with a Polish designed body (the wz.28 armoured car). however, due to issues with the Kegresse tracked suspension, they replaced the tracks with a wheeled axle. These were designated the wz.34.
“Vastly unnecessary “ that is a good description of the French armament.
Armored half track
Citroen more or less translates as Lemon or Orange.
weird looking car indeed
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