186. CONCEIVED IN LIBERTY with Michael Saylor & Patrick Newman on Murray Rothbard

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  • Опубликовано: 16 янв 2025

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  • @Mztbtc
    @Mztbtc Год назад +32

    What a banger!! Saylor’s mind is a treasure trove of insights. This is like a university course for free

    • @JakeWitmer
      @JakeWitmer Год назад

      Yes, he's excellent. Even so...he's simply discussing Rothbard's ideas here.

    • @rustyshackleford6637
      @rustyshackleford6637 Год назад

      I'm smoking on 39

    • @rustyshackleford6637
      @rustyshackleford6637 Год назад

      BABY what's going DOWN I'm on that Interstate mothafuckin 55 gotta big cherry lit what up.

  • @bangkokbert3440
    @bangkokbert3440 Год назад +30

    We are so lucky to be alive with Michael Saylor who is quite possibly one of the smartest people ever to walk this planet. Incredible insight as always.

    • @JakeWitmer
      @JakeWitmer Год назад +1

      Yes. However, he's exclusively discussing Rothbard here. If you like this...read Rothbard and Mises.

  • @Securethemsats
    @Securethemsats Год назад +12

    Never gets old listening to saylor.

    • @JakeWitmer
      @JakeWitmer Год назад

      ....Or Rothbard? ...or Mises? This was 100% Rothbard.

  • @waynerichardson1051
    @waynerichardson1051 Год назад +39

    Epic Saylor!! Man I tell ya what.....I honestly love learning from this fella! He's amazing!! I know more about American history than my own country! The knowledge he has and the way he explains it.....just awesome!! Some would say he talks too much!? But there's talking shit and nonsense, and then there's talking from research and expertise! Saylor has bucket loads of the latter!! Thanks again for another excellent podcast mate, really appreciate everything you're doing for us! Cheers

    • @TheBitcoinRevolution
      @TheBitcoinRevolution Год назад +5

      Watch the Saylor Series with Breedlove. All 17 pods plus the spaces discussion at the end.

    • @waynerichardson1051
      @waynerichardson1051 Год назад +2

      @@TheBitcoinRevolution watched it twice..... awesome!! Bitcoin is hope!

    • @rebranch74
      @rebranch74 Год назад +2

      ​@@waynerichardson1051Did you notice even, Fink, echoing such recently.

  • @UnderstandingBitcoin
    @UnderstandingBitcoin Год назад +11

    This would have a million views already if more people had actual intellectual curiosity

  • @bigboiwaffle5076
    @bigboiwaffle5076 Год назад +5

    Absolutely amazing conversation between three of the most knowledgeable guys on economic history - thank you!

  • @WithstandTheStorm
    @WithstandTheStorm Год назад +19

    This is a great companion video to watch along while reading both Conceived in Liberty and An Austrian Perspective on the History of Economic Thought. Or to go back to after reading those books for a summa.

  • @au10666
    @au10666 Год назад +23

    Michael saylor and Saif? you know this is gonna be a good one

  • @michaellehmann2803
    @michaellehmann2803 Год назад +6

    Can’t wait until the next episode!

  • @knownow6361
    @knownow6361 Год назад +6

    Thank you for this discussion.

  • @Jontellis
    @Jontellis Год назад +7

    Great podcast can’t wait for the next one! 🧠

  • @abdelkabirkahlaouy3034
    @abdelkabirkahlaouy3034 Год назад +5

    Pretty insightful conversation providing a new perspective on how human history is endless source of wealth if we know how to read it with the intention to learn, to grow and build together as one world community that cares. Thank you.

  • @davidhallen
    @davidhallen Год назад +4

    The quest for 'Lifestyle Liberty' was "Conceived In Liberty" many moons ago... fascinating podcast. Thank you guys.

  • @afrobian1
    @afrobian1 Год назад +6

    14:37 Guys the audio book is on RUclips. I’m going to give it a listen

  • @Vivrelaliberte
    @Vivrelaliberte Год назад +4

    Thank you people for all what you doing for us!! I m so in love with Btc and all u nice people ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @jshagenow
    @jshagenow Год назад +10

    If you really think about it…not a single one of us can know the future for sure but the one thing I know for sure is that the past sounds pretty shitty and I am willing to step into the Bitcoin future for sure - no matter how long it takes to get here….I just hope I can convince my kids and my grandkids and we can keep this future growing and thriving!

  • @GreenisYellow
    @GreenisYellow Год назад +10

    I like when they say the word BITCOIN ❤

  • @envelop
    @envelop Год назад +2

    Huge thanks!

  • @lornemacdougall884
    @lornemacdougall884 Год назад

    I am going to start listening to it right after this Pod.

  • @thedodo1
    @thedodo1 Год назад +1

    It’s amazing the way Saylor can communicate ideas and stories, loved the segment when he spoked about the different empires colonizing the continent of America, specifically about the rulers being so far away to enforce their rules, myself being from south America, there’s this curious event that happened with the portuguese empire prior to Napoleon reaching their territory they decided to move all of their empire’s administrative structure as well as the emperor and all of its noblemen to brazil, crazy story

  • @Simon-sr3cn
    @Simon-sr3cn Год назад +15

    The dream team assemble again

  • @formetoknow540
    @formetoknow540 Год назад +9

    Their is a level of intelligence these men have its incredible

    • @Lavavereisung
      @Lavavereisung Год назад +1

      Also always important who you compare them to… „THEIR“ 😊

    • @formetoknow540
      @formetoknow540 Год назад +1

      @@Lavavereisung ahaha

  • @NavaidSyed
    @NavaidSyed Год назад +2

    I never knew that Michael Saylor is such a huge intellectual.

  • @Conquer332
    @Conquer332 Год назад +2

    Patrick newman a genius

  • @Ones_Complement
    @Ones_Complement Год назад

    Rothbard-pilling Michael Saylor was not on my bingo card but my god am I here for it.

  • @we3k1ngs12
    @we3k1ngs12 Год назад +3

    Outstanding commentary on history allows for totally new perspectives. New idea: Bitcoin has discovered one of the greatest minds of modern history Giga Chad! If your not paying attention you should be !

  • @romanuhlevatyi
    @romanuhlevatyi Год назад

    Thank you.

  • @cliffjanke6115
    @cliffjanke6115 Год назад +2

    I've started on the 60 hour version of Conceived in Liberty on audiobook. Is there any way you could share the rest of that list you passed to Michael Saylor for those who are driven to read and learn more?? Cliff Janke, El Paso Texas.

  • @westra4
    @westra4 Год назад +1

    Very good

  • @RyanVoelkel
    @RyanVoelkel Год назад +2

    Such a good listen!
    Couldn’t help but laugh as he described how the native Americans got screws over and over and over again. They certainly got the short end of the stick. Goes to show that private property rights, technology, and innovation triumph again and again

    • @UnderstandingBitcoin
      @UnderstandingBitcoin Год назад

      Everyone throughout history with weaker technology & less physical power ends up getting screwed over.

  • @manstateandmemetics284
    @manstateandmemetics284 5 месяцев назад

    Need an episode with Michael Saylor on the Austrian Perspective on the History of Economic Thought.

  • @WhereAnt
    @WhereAnt Год назад +3

    I need to get into this tome

    • @JakeWitmer
      @JakeWitmer Год назад

      Waste of time, if you agreed with 60% of what you heard here. Read Clay Conrad and Cialdini "Influence" instead...grow uncomfortably.

  • @axb8000
    @axb8000 Год назад +2

    Saylor for pres

  • @NavaidSyed
    @NavaidSyed Год назад +2

    Yes, the replacement of DOI with the Articles of Federation and Constitution is the most disastrous part of American history.

  • @JakeWitmer
    @JakeWitmer Год назад

    This is an amazing time-saver for people who want to focus on *solutions.* Rothbard is almost perfect in his historical analysis...but grotesquely flawed when proposing solutions (though, not as flawed as SEK3).

  • @PrimordialEconomics
    @PrimordialEconomics Год назад +1

    Does priciples of economics cover primordial economic dynamics?

  • @orangesox915
    @orangesox915 4 месяца назад +1

    Mr. Saylor; I don't suppose you've ever read G.K. Chesterton's The Everlasting Man, have you? Great book.

  • @rctowns
    @rctowns Год назад +1

    Feels like The Enlightenment 9.0.

  • @GulperiSercin
    @GulperiSercin 2 месяца назад

    I have big expectations for the future of Web3 Infinity. It could really take off!

  • @knnmran
    @knnmran Год назад +5

    i am going to be honest here i liked the video before i listened to the whole thing.

    • @Vivrelaliberte
      @Vivrelaliberte Год назад +1

      I do that all the time ❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊

  • @formetoknow540
    @formetoknow540 Год назад +4

    MashAllah saifedean ammous actually stayed over at michael saylor house 😅 what a G

    • @afrobian1
      @afrobian1 Год назад +3

      Why not. They’re friends and Saif probably has more Bitcoin lol

    • @formetoknow540
      @formetoknow540 Год назад +1

      @afrobian1 yeah why not having billionaires as friends and been the economic ambassador of el salvador is just a day in the life of saifedean

    • @formetoknow540
      @formetoknow540 Год назад +1

      ​@afrobian1 naah I don't think so last time I heard Michael saylor says he has 17.5k bitcoin in his personal holdings.

    • @up255
      @up255 Год назад +1

      @@afrobian1no he does not .

  • @nuahcerpel_eht
    @nuahcerpel_eht Год назад

    Saylor would've made a great Hollywood screenwriter.

  • @jeanpierreagostiniderisi-sy3tb
    @jeanpierreagostiniderisi-sy3tb Год назад +1

    The Michael Saylor I was died forever.
    The Patrick Newman I was died forever.

  • @ronatola
    @ronatola Год назад

    That's a real Van Gogh behind him. He just used an old TV as the frame.

  • @NavaidSyed
    @NavaidSyed Год назад +1

    There are huge ancient pyramids in America.

    • @roadrunner9622
      @roadrunner9622 Год назад +1

      False. That is south of the USA's land area, which is what this book is about.

    • @NavaidSyed
      @NavaidSyed Год назад

      @@roadrunner9622Have you ever heard about continents that are called North and South America?

  • @KezbanKemal
    @KezbanKemal 2 месяца назад

    Web3 Infinity Token is the first token that rules itself and not owners or other people, making it the smartest token in the world.

  • @JP_21M
    @JP_21M Год назад +2

    Most people miss this, so don't take this as a criticism, but the "separation of church and state" is a Christian principal based on Sphere of Sovernty Doctrine and that is why the Cristian founders of America adopted it. Likewise natural rights, the modern justice system, "liberalism" and scientific rationalism are outgrowths of Christian Presuppositions. In other words all the societal and organizing best practices listed by these two are religious in origin and nature (still today). It is true there was much evil, corruption and failure that took place to get us there but several of their dichotomies are false and irrational or best case over-simplified. BTC FTW.

  • @shakenbake6303
    @shakenbake6303 Год назад +1

    😎🤙

  • @orangejulius8366
    @orangejulius8366 Год назад +1

    Is that an original Van Gogh?

    • @marcbriggs4449
      @marcbriggs4449 Год назад +1

      It's a digital Van Gogh

    • @orangejulius8366
      @orangejulius8366 Год назад +1

      @@marcbriggs4449 yeah I see that now. Too vibrant and the purples are too modern. And it would never be in that " frame"
      Lol

    • @X11-g9b
      @X11-g9b Год назад

      That is a screen saver!

    • @UnderstandingBitcoin
      @UnderstandingBitcoin Год назад

      It’s a TV lol

  • @ryancarpenter6362
    @ryancarpenter6362 Год назад +1

    It helps if you take the land from a weak, unarmed people, as the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians. Palestinians, by the way, had documentation of ownership of their land.

    • @roadrunner9622
      @roadrunner9622 Год назад

      Did you listen to the entire video? They cover that point extensively.

  • @NavaidSyed
    @NavaidSyed Год назад +1

    Yes, we won with guerilla warfare. That is why British historians call us pirates (The older term for terrorist).

    • @UnderstandingBitcoin
      @UnderstandingBitcoin Год назад +1

      The Americans won the revolutionary war because they had lots of advantages; one of the biggest being the giant ocean between the US and the Great Britain

    • @NavaidSyed
      @NavaidSyed Год назад

      @@UnderstandingBitcoin Yes, that was definitely a very important factor.

  • @finglisCave
    @finglisCave Год назад +1

    5 Myths
    We are controlled by 5 MYTHS; in order they are: 1 Religion, 2 Law, 3. Money, 4 The Nation State and 5 Ownership. All myths!
    All human behaviour in modern times is controlled by a "hierarchy" of 5 MYTHS! Myth 1. RELIGION ( belief in someone's version of right and wrong, good and bad - with a "Fear Narrative; " do the right thing and you will be rewarded in some mythical place (and conversely, you will be punished if you stop believing) - Then, as people questioned this "Blind Faith" system, it was immediately backed up with the second myth in the hierarchy; Myth 2. LAW - As faith failed to control people, force was used to get people to comply. Myth 3. MONEY -paying the self-appointed leaders and "landowners" for food to eat and to pay troops "loyal" to those enforcing the law (false trust) and those spreading religious nonsense and fear. Myth 4. "THE NATION STATE," wrap people in a flag and tell them the "others" (wrapped in other flags, with different religion, laws and leaders who (we are usually told) "want your stuff" and to change the way you live ( “loss of liberty” threat) what’s worse, they are "coming to get you"; so you need to fight for your "rights" (which we also just “invented”). This logical sequence of events required the 5th and final Myth in the hierarchy; - 5. "OWNERSHIP"; How can a human own a piece of a 4.5-billion-year-old planet that no one has any "right" to above any other? If I take something from you by force, is it mine? Historical conquests and even as far back to when we were forager hunters 200 000 years ago (which we were for 93% of our existence remember!) does not mean we "own" the land and can pass it on for generations because someone won a battle for some king or leader? How stupid! Says who? MYTHS! all of it.
    (Quite brilliant for controlling behaviour, BUT it’s only as real as we choose to make it, we invented this "Society", we can end it by living differently, fairly and without fear being a key driver of our identity. #Bitcoin

  • @btdoe3259
    @btdoe3259 Год назад +1

    I think it's only the last 5000 years that we had endless wars. As the rise and fall of our consciousness goes in cycles.

    • @christianbeaudry-spicez
      @christianbeaudry-spicez Год назад +2

      Because 5000 years before that humans didn't know how to organise.

    • @JakeWitmer
      @JakeWitmer Год назад

      ​@@christianbeaudry-spicezNay...it was the same...just not recorded on paper or clay tablets that lasted.

  • @tylerboyd570
    @tylerboyd570 Год назад +1

    If the native Americans didn't have metal working then how did some random Indians going through the colonists' trash, know how to melt the governor's silver ash tray to a tobacco pipe while keeping the stamp of the king intact?

    • @prasun6084
      @prasun6084 Год назад

      Native Americans did have metal workings but only soft metals such as copper in northern America and copper, gold, silver in central and south. No hard metals or alloy like iron, let alone steel.

    • @Chizstarz86
      @Chizstarz86 Год назад

      The more I listen to Michael Saylor the less interesting he is

  • @jshagenow
    @jshagenow Год назад

    It’s as if there are currently two worlds or two histories of the world being written in all our minds. There is the world from which we all came (which based on history has been pretty shit I reckon) and which we expect the future to be-because we are basing our future expectations on what the past has taught us.
    Then there is the future on the Bitcoin standard-which we all have trouble accepting because it is the future of hope and prosperity that we all have been seeking-or at least it’s is the future that has the most hope of prosperity and peace by default as we don’t know how that future plays out but based on how Bitcoin is growing there is little hope for those currently in power to stop it and when they do the calculations on trying to stop it - they realize they are too late and that it’s better to just accept it for why it is and try to get as much of it as one can so as not to be completely left behind.

    • @mmorphy4258
      @mmorphy4258 Год назад

      Fellow bitcoiner here. I believe if Jesus returned and His kingdom needed a monetary system He would choose Bitcoin. The problem with history is man constantly makes poor choices. No matter how good God is, man messes up. Like Bitcoin, no matter how good Bitcoin is, man can use it for wrong. Bitcoin is great, but the end game doesn’t solve everything. Because at the end of the day man’s nature is corrupted, not only our money. Jesus will return, that whole story is unfolding and the prophecies shout it. Many people don’t believe Bitcoin and don’t listen. Many people reject Jesus too. Truth is truth and you should recognize it. To those with eyes to see and ears to hear

  • @NavaidSyed
    @NavaidSyed Год назад +1

    The archeology shows that they had great technologies and civilization at some point. But we do not know what happened to it. it probably got killed and destroyed by wars and socialistic economies.

    • @roadrunner9622
      @roadrunner9622 Год назад +1

      False. That was south of the (future) USA. There is no indigenous development of note here, in the archeological record.

  • @arman2339
    @arman2339 Год назад +1

    Saif, is Patrick your white name? (16:15) 😜

  • @AtisJ
    @AtisJ Месяц назад

    If all the off ramps are in tether/ us dollar then all crypto is old dollar system. Old news.

  • @Forst2811
    @Forst2811 Год назад

    Cacciatori raccoglitori non avevano un aspettativa di vita di 35 anni che invece è la media, l'aspettativa media di vita degli europei del tempo non credo fosse molto migliore

  • @azdjedi
    @azdjedi Год назад

    Sounds like w crazy time

  • @rosstituteuk
    @rosstituteuk Год назад +1

    38:30 The Founding Fathers did not advocate for seperation of religion & state. Quite the opposite, in fact.
    They relied on the concept of God, as a means to preserve the individuals sovereignty. So much so, that they wrote God in to the Constitution:
    "All men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights..."
    These were, on the most part, profoundly religious men.

    • @christianbeaudry-spicez
      @christianbeaudry-spicez Год назад +4

      There is a difference between faith and living under the subjugation of 1 organised religious tyranny.
      Believing in god and allowing an organised religion to combine with the state is not the same.

    • @rosstituteuk
      @rosstituteuk Год назад +2

      ​@@christianbeaudry-spicez Yes. The founding fathers were also strong advocates of freedom of religion.

    • @X11-g9b
      @X11-g9b Год назад +2

      We hold these truths to be "self evident" was changed by Ben Franklin from "sacred" in Jefferson's original text. An obvious attempt to separate a religious tone in the constitution to one of common sense language for anyone to understand without a theological interpretation. SO they definitely wanted to separate religion and State.

    • @rosstituteuk
      @rosstituteuk Год назад

      bit of a stretch, @@X11-g9b. Keeping in mind they had no desire to remove reference to 'the Creator'.
      If their intention was to remove religion, that would of course be the clear starting point...
      On the contrary to your point, they choose to maintain the reference to the divine, for they understood the significance and importance of doing so.

    • @roadrunner9622
      @roadrunner9622 Год назад

      Acknowledging a commonly accepted creator in a document, is not the same as govt and church intertwined as institutions.

  • @int_pro
    @int_pro Год назад

    To paraphrase: the land was awesome, religions and corruption kept messing with things, meanwhile, thankfully everyone just wanted to Netflix and Chill.

  • @btclbrty3051
    @btclbrty3051 Год назад

    Wind him up. Let him go. Pay attention and take notes…

  • @PinarNurmuhammet
    @PinarNurmuhammet 2 месяца назад

    Why are you convinced that it is impossible? Are you familiar with the Web3 Infinity? The cost of this will increase dramatically.

  • @dominiqueluzTV
    @dominiqueluzTV Год назад +2

    "Conceived in Liberty" by Murray Rothbard, has faced lots of criticism for several reasons:
    - Biased Approach: Rothbard's heavy reliance on Austrian economics and libertarian ideology can result in a biased interpretation of history, where his personal views sometimes overshadow factual events.
    - Imbalanced Narrative: Rothbard's strong libertarian stance may lead to an imbalanced narrative, as he is seen as neglecting or downplaying aspects of history that don't align with his ideology, potentially leaving gaps in the understanding of events.
    - Simplification: Rothbard's writing style simplifies complex historical and economic concepts, making the book accessible but potentially oversimplifying intricate historical events and economic systems.
    - Narrow Focus: Rothbard's emphasis on economic factors as the primary driver of historical events neglect the role of social, cultural, and political factors in shaping American history.
    - Controversial Interpretations: Rothbard's libertarian perspective has led to interpretations of key events, such as the American Revolution, that differ significantly from mainstream historical accounts, leading to disputes among historians.
    In a nutshell: it is a piece of writing similar to those we find in cults. Anyone can confirm this by the behaviour of those who are his fans and never accept any criticism because they worship Rothbard as some people worship religious leaders.

    • @thesiyou
      @thesiyou Год назад

      This comment is AI generated by order of a vaginal liberal brain

    • @roadrunner9622
      @roadrunner9622 Год назад

      Thank you for this input. I plan to listen to the audio book, and I always appreciate a contary view to keep things balanced.

    • @Ones_Complement
      @Ones_Complement Год назад

      Maybe we're cultists, or just maybe your arguments are shitty and you're actually wrong.

  • @chicoHODL
    @chicoHODL Год назад +1

    Blackrock FOMO

  • @miguelon1995
    @miguelon1995 Год назад +1

    1:44:39 #Bitcoin isnt a more powerful currency than #Gold bc bitcoin imo hasnt even lasted a whole century yet meanwhile gold & #Silver have been around for thousands of years. Bitcoin has the capability of being more powerful than gold but only if its a proven store of value nd its got at least 💯 years under its belt

  • @pagexx
    @pagexx Год назад +1

    Patrick's opening statement is like 5 minutes of noise. Are you nervous man? Jesus, nothing noteworthy was said, I should've skipped it.

    • @martinezjames83
      @martinezjames83 Год назад +1

      Relax :) he probly has so much in his brain!! Hard to keep responses short

    • @BigJonkulous
      @BigJonkulous Год назад +2

      Thanks for the fiat comment. Low quality, low value.

    • @UnderstandingBitcoin
      @UnderstandingBitcoin Год назад +1

      LOL thought the same thing

  • @adlioladliol8547
    @adlioladliol8547 Год назад

    Um...there was plenty of "reason" prior to the enlightenment. However, the eventual loss of private property through the seeds of Marxism ....now that DID begin with the enlightenment.

  • @tristanprathap2852
    @tristanprathap2852 Год назад

    .

  • @treycaldwell4118
    @treycaldwell4118 Год назад

    Why do Millennials refuse to pronounce their t

  • @bigcraig1976
    @bigcraig1976 Год назад

    I can only see our freedom being eroded to zero you just got a taste of Andrew Tate Jordan Peterson it's obvious to any one with a micron of self thought this doesn't come across as credible

  • @nuahcerpel_eht
    @nuahcerpel_eht Год назад

    man... this guy should've let Saylor talk more... when you speak to Michael Saylor you have to remind yourself you were given two ears and one mouth for a reason...

  • @AMADOOreilly
    @AMADOOreilly 2 месяца назад

    I have great hopes for Web3 Infinity. The market appears to be reacting favorably.

  • @TylerLevesque-v6y
    @TylerLevesque-v6y 2 месяца назад

    Yes, we have already missed the deadline for those coins, but fortunately, we still have some possibilities, such Web3 Infinity.

  • @DEVONMarek-e4b
    @DEVONMarek-e4b 2 месяца назад

    It varies from other tokens due to Web3 Infinity's self-governing nature. Inventive genius at its best!

  • @LuveniaPfeifer
    @LuveniaPfeifer 2 месяца назад

    It varies from other tokens due to Web3 Infinity's self-governing nature. Inventive genius at its best!

  • @KenyaSaxton
    @KenyaSaxton 2 месяца назад

    Yes, we have already missed the deadline for those coins, but fortunately, we still have some possibilities, such Web3 Infinity.

  • @KERRYWentworth-c5d
    @KERRYWentworth-c5d 2 месяца назад

    Yes, we have already missed the deadline for those coins, but fortunately, we still have some possibilities, such Web3 Infinity.

  • @BORISCarrillo-l3q
    @BORISCarrillo-l3q 2 месяца назад

    Yes, we have already missed the deadline for those coins, but fortunately, we still have some possibilities, such Web3 Infinity.

  • @LilliOrtiz-k6c
    @LilliOrtiz-k6c 2 месяца назад

    Yes, we have already missed the deadline for those coins, but fortunately, we still have some possibilities, such Web3 Infinity.

  • @KEITHMaestas-h1t
    @KEITHMaestas-h1t 2 месяца назад

    Yes, we have already missed the deadline for those coins, but fortunately, we still have some possibilities, such Web3 Infinity.