Liger vs Grolar Bear | Who Is The Strongest Hybrid?
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- G'day ladies and gentlemen! In today's video we have a debate on which hybrid is strongest. In one corner we have the Liger, the offspring of a lion and tiger. In the other corner we have the Grolar Bear, the offspring of a polar and brown bear. Which one of these creatures will win? Well sit back and find out!
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Cat Experts: Ligers and Other Designer Hybrids Pointless and Unethical www.nationalge...
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Interesting how the growler bear isn’t bigger than the polar bear
But the fact that it survives in the wild is the ultimate deciding factor in this fight
I prefer “Prisly Bear.”
@@rollotomasislawyer3405its called a pizzly bear if the farther is a polar bear and the mother is a grizzly bear
Well I don’t see a liger naturally occurring
Tbf nobody truly knows if a liger could survive in the wild. Man hypothesize a lot of things and turn out to be wrong
@@mogulme6190 not enough prey to keep it fed, no chance
Easy! The bear wins! Nature has been mixing both Grizzly and Polar in the wild due to habitat loss. Where as a liger is bred in a lab and can barely sustain itself. Mother Nature always wins!
They don't interbreed because they don't share the same habitat, whereas polar bears and brown bears have an overlapping one.
I think comparing the captive vs wild has to be added in the comparison title to make the comparison fair.
This is crazy! Would you rather have to fight a 7 lbs feral cat to the death or a 10 pound adult miniature wild bear? I'd take the bear
As far as I know, ligers are quite unhealthy animals that are also prone to things like organ failure, arthritis, neurological disorders, cancers, etc. Grolars aren't because of how much closer grizzlies and polars are related to one another.
Correct. Polar bears actually descend from Grizzlies. So yes they are related.
yup and yall just proved why grolar is not a true hybrid by definition :D actual hybrids are sterile and are classified as 2 of the same species that are so far they no longer can breed with fertile offspring. There are many points to hybrids by definition that grolar flat out does not fit into. When the genetic code is that similer its not really a hybrid its the same as a tabby house cat breeding with a persian. The genetic code is diffrent when it comes to outside features buttt the genetic code is still close enogh that they are still fertile and can breed with any other house cat still while giving fertile off spring. This is something tigers and lions lack all togther but grizzly and polar do not lack :) This is why many who are into hybrids actually dont consider grolars hybrids
The health difference isn't because of how closely related they are, it's just a matter of tigers and lions having certain growth-related genes on their sex chromosome, but reversed between the two. Effectively, growth-inhibiting genes are passed from male tigers to their children, and from female lions to their children. Ligers, with a lion father and tiger mother, do not inheriting growth-limiting genes from either parent, resulting in all ligers having excesse growth similar to acromegaly. The reverse hybrid, tigons, have much fewer health issues than ligers do.
While how recently two species diverged can be a decent predictor of whether or not they hypothetically could have a hybrid child, it's not nearly as good a predictor of how healthy or unhealthy that hybrid would be. Donkeys and Horses diverged from their common ancestor further back than it appears that tigers and lions diverged, yet the hybrid of them, aka a Mule, is quite hardy and is actually less prone to health complications than horses are in general.
@@markandrew5968your comment is a good read, thanks for the information
@@markandrew5968 thanks for the info
The only way a liger could make eighty kph is accelerating down the face of a particularly high cliff.
Yeah 50 mph (80 Km/ hr) is a bit high sided for the Liger. A healthy Liger "might" hit 40. The video showed a Pissly was actually clocked at 24 mph, but actually thry might hit high 20's not being out of the question. Grizzly bears have been officially timed as fast as 37 mph, but these are smaller to mid sized at 300 to 400 pounds. The big monster Grizzly's at 700 to 800+ pounders are slower. Excluding Cheetahs, the Siberian tiger is the fastest big cat, and can hit 80 km/ hr. No way could a Liger be as fast as a Siberian Tiger. Lionesses are over 5 mph faster than the male Lions are, mass , even muscle mass can cut down on top speed, though not on acceleration as much, and its surprise and acceleration that lets a slower predator catch faster prey.
@@williamthornton5856 Siberian tiger might not run 50 mph despite being 240 pounds lighter It should be able to run 40 mph
And driving a car
Grolar bear destroys
No dumbo
Facts
Nope
@@harristiapo8046 yes*
@@kilianteni7884 no
If the liger was actually healthy and lived in the wild, then it might do better.
An unhealthy one from a zoo won't perform well in a fight.
Its never healty... its a genetic failure
“ that’s the thing, it can’t” -omni man, probably
That is a very big if. As far as we know ligers can't survive in the wild and with no known instances of natural ligers occurring in India's Gir National Park, Northern Iran, and eastern Anatolia (Turkey), habitats were both lions and tigers cross, it is safe to conclude that ligers and tigons are intelligently designed animals and can not survive in the wild.
@@socipathicgaming5914 a healthy liger without various diseases is itself a lottery to win after one is born, then another to survive to adulthood and not die from predators or something else while it is a vulnerable cub.
I do not deny the chances of such existing are incredibly low, but if it did it wouldn't suck so badly at fighting.
That is the problem, there does not exist a single healthy Liger because its a bad mix. The tiger and lion are close enough to reproduce but these offspring come with issues
I have to wonder if a Liger could even survive in the wild. It has just lost so many of the advantages that its parents have. I wonder if it's possible to selectively breed a liger with the ideal set of traits for survival.
If it was born in the wild then it may have a chance at survival. I would think having to hunt for food every day would definitely help it maintain a more healthy body weight. It's hard to be obese when you don't have a 100% success rate.
Not 100% sure about this one but I recall hearing that Ligers are not very fertile either. That comes besides the fact of how much they would probably have to eat daily in order to sustain their larger bodies
@@I3igI3adW0lfits far far more thsn just exercise son. It's genetics! The poor creature has so many health problems due to that and woukd die in the wild. Asshole who breed them are so irresponsible, as tbey come to this world to suffer ailments due to genetics.
@@anaisgrace4358 i see them ligers as ambush animals they can't be a persistance hunter because their fat so only option left is a ambush although their coat gives them away
If we assume that a liger magically gets a good coat that matches their sorroundings and magically gets better endurance then we can start i see them hunting buffalo, baby elephants, baby - pre adult hippos, baby - pre adult crocodiles etc etc
I see them evolving to breath longer in water as there's no better hiding spots in the savanna they'll hide in the water and pounce out emidietly once an animal gets close to the water kinda like a crocodile i bet it'll be easy due to their size.
@@anaisgrace4358 They are not fertile , they cant reproduce
People don't understand how powerful grizzly and polar bears are. They are easily the most physically powerful land predators.
Yet can't score a one hit kill on other animals...
@@vinzentwallbach4251because that's not how they hunt. Lions and tigers will try to kill their prey as fast as possible whilst bears will just eat their preys alive. Bears are way stronger than big cats in every way possible. That's just a fact.
@@shrekhoodieguy5449 No offense but you just wrote an entire paragraph to basically say I'm right.
@@vinzentwallbach4251 I didn't say you were right. You seem to think that a liger could beat a grolar bear which is completely untrue. Bears are way stronger animals.
@@shrekhoodieguy5449 I never said I believed that. I am well aware bears are stronger. Hence why I am surprised they suck at killing quickly. And yes I know how cats hunt and that it's not the same and so on. I just think it's ironic.
I think another really big point to be made is stamina.
We already know big cats have bad stamina so it can be assumed that these mostly unhealthy/overweight cats who don’t do as much cardio compared to their wild relatives have it even worse.
Meanwhile bears of all kind have stamina that is remarkable that allows them to run after prey and get into battles with other bears that exceed 10 minutes.
Can’t beat a dogo tho 😂
He mentioned that in the video
Exactly...bears have high endurance and would chase a prey down until it's exhausted
To be honest if the bear and the cat were pound per pound same the stamina wouldn't matter at all because pound per pound cats defeat any land animals bears will only win due to having larger size that way its able to tank the hits of the cat until the cat is exhausted than it will easily tear it apart due to the stamina factor
Polar bears can swim for 60 miles easily
Team bear. Here is a controversial opinion, but I think a wild male lion or Bengal/Siberian tiger may have a better chance against a Grolar bear. The Liger, although very large, is very obese and a pampered zoo resident. It doesn't have to actively hunt or fight. It's almost like a giant house cat. The bear has that raw stamina as well. Also, I liked the "bear in mind" pun :) Keep up the great work!
I agree 100%. A wild large male lion or a wild large male tiger is way more experienced and skilled compared to a liger.
Also love your videos keep up the good work 😁👍🏻
I hate these reason, why even factor that, the only grolar bear we see are ones that are in captivite, though we know it can occur in the wil, we have very little info about. There is no point in pinning a domestically tamed liver against a wild grolar bear. That is a ridiculous match-up.
I'm calling bs. You can't pull the the zoo handicap for the liger when we know it was possible for to have existed in the wild at some point. If the liger gets nerfed for being a zoo animal then so should the bear. Also don't claim it to be impossible to survive in the wild because of its size when we have examples of comparable big cats like the American lion thriving during the pleistocene.
Thank you! and yeah I agree that a bengal/Siberian tiger would have a better chance thanks to their far more athletic nature in addition to their experience of dealing with bears themselves.
@@TheOverseerDebatesfemale bears
The bear would have difficulty, but it would edge out simply because it knows what it's doing.
I have a feeling that the liger would actually get injured when it moves hard, due to the weight.
Big dog breeds have the same problems.
Now imagine something like a Short Face Bear.
Mike tyson would ko the short faced bear in a fight
You would have to compare the short faced bear to panthera atrox
It knows what it is doing? Lmfao god people are weird
@@TheReZisTLust Of course it does, it grew up in the wild unlike a glorified house cat.
@@thenarwhal7866 Funny enough, the short faced bear DID bully ancient big cats.
Yet another great video about a very interesting scenario. I agree that battle IQ plays a huge part in this fight. Great video.
Grolar bear wins mid diff if we’re talking about a zoo liger
A liger raised in the wild by a lion/tiger Would do better but the grolar bear still takes it extreme diff
Theoretically
i agree, siberian tigers occasionally clash with brown bears and the bear wins more often than not (albeit by a small margin) and i think the increased sizes of both animals scale nicely to make a good comparison assuming both are raised in the wild
@@adminbob_Yes, true, though the Siberian Tiger normally used ambush on brown bears. Also, Siberian tigers killed more Ursrie Brown bears before 1990, because in the wild, Siberian Tigers were larger before 1990. Today, the remaining Siberian tigers are smaller and normally do not hunt Brown bears as much as they "use to". Poachers have purposely killed off the larger specimens for trophy hunting and the herbal industry. Even worse than habitat destruction, poaching has effected the Siberian Tiger Gene pool so much that they are no longer the biggest Tiger species in the wild ( they "use" to be). Bengals are now larger, (their size has remained the same)
Wild liger would slam with Mid difficulty I mean there almost the same size a liger would be faster more agile and could able to cause greater destruction towards it a Kodiak bear would be pretty even
@@williamthornton5856
Or maybe all those stories about siberian tigers were fake
There's not a big cat in the world that can beat a full grown male polar bear or Kodiak. Liger gets wrecked.
Bear is always going to have the upper hand. They always have, even in prehistoric days.
Cave lions killed cave bears and today tigers kill brown bears black bears and polar bears
Prehistoric cats were much bigger, like the liger without drawbacks.
@@arisvalmonte793 short faced bear, nuff said.
@srobeck77 I know about the shortfaced bear, you don't know about all the extinct big cats
@@arisvalmonte793 they didnt even weight half as much, so theres that....
Grolar wins without even using all its advantages.
a similar size bear usually would outlast a big cat. They have a lot more stamina in a battle. Cats are quick strike predators and they would throw in the towel quickly If they sensed they could not win or get seriously hurt.
I don't know for sure but I think pound for pound the cat would be stronger. There's a reason their stamina is so bad. It's a trade off for crazy explosive power. Cats might even be pound for pound the strongest animal of all.
@@mrlegkick91
Their power is nothing in front of a bear's durability
@@NOU-iw3gb Tigers are known to hunt Bears, so that's wrong.
@gangweed3244 Injured,old or female and cubs brown bears. They don't even go near full grown, healthy male brown bears. And even when those type of bears have been hunted, there have been only a few cases.They have no chance with healthy, adult, male brown bears. Brown bears do the same to injured tigers and their cubs. Difference is that they are not intimidated by adult tigers.
@@gangweed3244 Stop spreading this misleading nonesense. A siberian tiger has never killed a fully healthy male or female bear in a head on fight.
I bet the grolar bear is the closest thing to a giant cave bear we have today. Same for the liger being a cave lion equivalent.
The Growler bear, sort of, similar to an old pre-historic csve bear somewhat; though a regular Grizzly fits cave bear better. Polar bears do not live in caves, Grizzly's sometimes do. The Liger, No WAY is it close to any pre-historic cat. A Liger has genetic issues causing health problems which would cause Negative issues, resulting in it likely not being able to survive in the wild. The genetics of polor bears and grizzly's are closer, do less chance of bad genetics, while Liins and Tigers are further apart genetically, thus their offspring has higher chances of genetic defects.
@@williamthornton5856
True. The liger should not be existing.
The closest in size would be a Kodiak bear. same species as a grizzly but has the advantage of eating a higher protein diet, and thus grows larger. Some hit about 1400lbs.
Well we certainly know what's not the strongest: Their genetics
The most pointless video I’ve seen in a long time. Love it, keep up the good work.
Bears have a much better build to support being that big. All the lions/tigers/ligers that get anywhere close to as big as a large bear seem to be too heavy for their frames.
In my opinion Grolar bear destroys.
What’s basically a over grown House cat against a absolute genetic monster of one of natures strongest animals.
This is honestly a no contest since we have to consider the battle IQ of the bear and just the brute power it has over the panther.
One happens naturally and another was made to happen just for the curiosity of it.
I will say tho, the Liger has some potential. But as it stands, the Bear takes this.
Great video as always holy shit🔥🔥
Grolar likely eats it. More over, theres every chance it doesnt even kill it before starting to eat it if theres a notable strength gap. Bears of both species are known to eat things alive with fair regularity.
Bears seem to leave tiger carcasses along if they find one though because it apparently taste really bad for them, which is saying a lot considering that Bears aren’t all that picky.
Someone has been watching and Leaning facts from Joe Rogan 🤣
Liger destroys!!
Even a tiger can kill a liger. Grolar bear destroys it
That bear is going to be eating good for a couple of days.
wonder how hard a Jaglion bites
Grizzley x Polar bear makes a bigger stronger smarter bear.
Lion x tiger is a genetic train wreck, falling apart from arthritis and heart disease.
We really need to let this debate go. No big cat or gorilla can stand In front of a grizzly bear or polar bear. Especially a polar bear, they will get torn to shreds. Let it go.
Kodiak bear destroys a polar or grizzly
One bear swipe eill take down a big cat
Your estimate of Grizzly size and weight is that of young female grizzlies. Male grizzlies tend to be about 200lbs heavier and correspondingly larger.
My man pizzly bear has this
Liger has too many unknowns. Animals in Captivity are not good demonstrations of the true capabilites of the animal. Remember that there were many "legends" of wild Ligers long before they were filmed at zoos
Bears always win in a one-on-one death match. Unless Rhinoceros or African Elephant enters the chat.
Well look who it is
And your speaking facts too
bear wouldn't stand a chance against a hippo either
Or any big marine predator, but they are op asf.
This dude dnt know shyt 😂 he jst talking. I just pulled up a video of a Liger running at 50miles per hour 😂😂 jst for a short burst. Dude this video is wack
Brown bears have a rather incredible size range in different populations and by sex. There are probably 35 countries, though notably neither Mongolia or China are among them, where the average weight of a female adult human exceeds that of a female adult Gobi bear, and 2 or 3 where an average adult woman is larger than the largest individual female Gobi bear. Meanwhile, an adult male Kodiak bear is larger than some breeds of horse.
Im a huge Liger fan but even i gotta admit Grolar destroys A zoo Liger. A liher would be easily be killed by a Grolar due to 1 thing and 1 thing only. Battle Experience. Ligers can't fight i doubt a wild tiger would even lose to a Liger because a wild Tiger has experience and knows how to fight will a Liger jusy Swings it's paws hoping it'll do good
BUT
If it's a wild liger then it'll be different it definitely goes either way A Grolar wins if the Grolar finds it first a Liger wins if it spots the Grolar first definitely goes either way.
Overseer gave Liger a benifit of doubt. I would say that their speed is below 50km/h at best.
Below 80 km/ hr (50 mph). The big bear was listed at 24 mph from one being clocked by a car. He thought the Bear might be a little faster, (maybe in the high 20's). The Liger is faster than the bear, yes, but "no way" can it do 50 mph, like a Siberian Tiger.
the king of hybrids are mules. Not as fancy but proven worthy for thousands of years!
Always enjoy these videos, So entertaining
tigers can be up to 300kg, so pretty missleading when thsi picture says 160-230kg
Hybrids of Tigers and lions probably occurred in the past when ranges overlapped many animals have hybrids even us humans.!. I have cats as generally winning at weight parity Tigers in the far east win more encounters with Brown bears according to the last paper I read, saying that the much smaller sloth bear n sometimes fend off the match larger bengal tiger. For me its a 50/50.
Easily the growler bear wins since ligers size is due to deficiency in a growth regulating hormone they often have many joint and mobility problems due to unusual growth of bones in short I don't think ligers could last in the wild let alone fight a growler bear.
I’ve been waiting for this
Potato
You’re underrated
I think everyone would pick a liger….as to which animal to die by 💀 get bitten/crushed in the neck then eaten by a liger or eaten alive by a bear
Mistakes I can point out:
-Polar bear bite force is low due to having to penetrate only blubber, if grolar have heads in between polar and browns then should have a less powerful bite than the brown, but I guess not all grolars come the same.
-I'm yet to see video evidence of bear high "swipe strike force", there are videos of browns striking dogs and wolves, the result is not even a mark, they do move the target. There is lots of video evidence of tigers swipe strength, but only on other tigers that I remember (on dogs too but the intention is not damaging but stun and reposition, when is not for grabbing), and the result is what one can imagine of a colossal blow. For what I've seen, cats are more efficient in delivering a strike with the front paws, has to be due to it's anatomy. The difference in favor of a bear would be the big digging claws of a brown bear, not that the tiger claws are useless in "scratching", cutting, but in a swiping move I rather do it with long claws. They also help with the other big advantage of bears that is their wrestling abinstincts
hibernating (and cubs or subadults)
Polar bears don’t have low bite force and a full swipe from a grizzly bear doesn’t just “move” dogs
@@soupman163 Yes, polar bears have low bite force...1- see the zygomatic arches 2-justified as they eat blubber...And yes in all the videos I saw, swipe from brown bears result in no damage, only moving the dog/wolf and scaring them. Damage from brown bears, comes when bears grab the dog, embrace them, bite them and puncture with claws. Swipe does nothing. There are many videos showing this. One I can remember easy to find is the attack from many brown bears over one wolf in a zoo, killing it, another wolf came to the rescue and some brown bear swipe it, and nothing. But there are many videos in the wild. Same result, nothing.
They should take the most like a lion out of the litter and put it into a wild lion pack and so it cab build the skills of an actual lion and get more muscular to see its true potential
Not disappointed, liked the video but I thought you said gorilla bear and that’s what intrigued me lol
Haven’t even watched the video and know the bear wins.
Liger would flatline of liver failure before the fight even began.
Grolar bear or pizzly can still mate which is the scary part.
I still love the ligers, such cool animals
Anyone else notice Doc Antle from Tiger King's Cameo at 1:05?
Pls do Bengal tiger vs mugger crocodile (both large individuals)
Sumatran tigers are already able to kill muggers. A bengal destroys
@@hakeeemquaviantavius No a decent size mugger is hard to kill for a Bengal tiger one called "machli" almost died killing a weak small sick and dehydrated one
@@poojathapa4940it wasnt a small weak mugger, it was quite large but it was away from water that why it got killed
@@rebelgaming4327 no it was 12 feet long and dehydrated and sick there is a whole article about this
@@poojathapa4940 ruclips.net/video/0ZXZsPOaImg/видео.htmlsi=xMF4Sg4m5Y6epoTu
Pretty sure the croc was fine but got dehydrated and over heated during the fight
none of these could stand against a full grown african elephant
6:35 Elephants:
and hippos. And rhinos. and crocodiles. and giraffes. and moose.
Here's my question.... Which hybrid is actually healthier?
Tigon vs Liger
&
Grolar vs Pizzly (God awful name)
There is one pretty important factor ignored in this video and that is the claws. Bears have dull claws that are mostly used for digging while cat claws are razor sharp due to being protected from getting dulled down from walking on them.
I also finds the focus on current Ligers being limited to zoos a bit unfair as they can show up in the wild just as Grolar bears can be found in zoos.
Yeah, but bears that size have 8" of fat under their skin and regularly fight each other
Cat claws aren't used for slashing. In fact bear claws are much more suitable for that. Cat claws are only used for hooking on to their prey.
There's been no record of a Liger in the wild, it's hard to speculate with data that doesn't exist. In contrast however, Grolar Bears do occur in the wild, but our research on them isn't nearly as fleshed out as our research on captive Ligers.
I don't know if you've ever seen a bear up close, but they're huge. Even if the claws are comparatively dull with respect to the big cats, a spike/blade doesn't need to be razor sharp to do a lot of damage, it only needs to concentrate the force of the strike.
Source: I live in Canada and I've had Black Bears put their claws through my garbage cans, the big square kind with the heavy duty plastic. Black bears are small potatoes in this context, too.
Yea the liger will die of stage 4 existence cancer before the fight even begins
Grolar bears are from the same species of bear grizzly bears and polar bears are the same species they just have a few physical different characteristics due to their environment but they are scientifically the same species of bear I spent a couple of years in the Arctic and was informed by many locals that they’ve Ben known to mate together from time to time since forever
The bear is a wild hybrid not a zoo animal. Bear wins easily.
Heres one thing i find interesting.If Ligers were born and raised in the wild,they would be SO much more menacing.Nedding to work for prey its likely they wouldnt be as fat because in zoos all they do is eat,nap and walk around a bit.And if they were raised in the wild then they would certainly have better experiance and battle intelligence then their more domesticated versions.So a speculative wild liger would probably give a groler bear a better run for its money.
Facts
Bruh I think that Liger can't even fight properly while Pizzly is a combination of the 2 biggest and most powerful terrestrial predators currently. No matter, even if it could, in fight with big cats vs bears, bears always win, they are superior in almost every way.
If a liger was wild it overpowers a Grolar bear
Dude the biggest Kodiak bear ever recorded is 2130Lbs and largest polar bear recorded is 2209lbs and in the past 300 years or sooner there’s definitely been at least one of each that was never recorded 150-200lbs bigger than those
Liger has enough problems with genetics
overseer: no matter what animal you don't wanna mess with these hybrids
hippo: what you talking about
salt water crocodile: i want to eat him
elephant: should i be scared of that teddy
The Asiatic Lion once coexisted with The Bengal Tiger AND The Caspian Tiger which is now extinct.
Grolar bear? Clearly, that's a Pizzley!
Why do people do this! Leave those animals alone
People often point to the fact that Siberian Tigers often have a small (tiny) percentage of their diet being brown bear but ignores that the "prey" is only of the very young, old, sick, hibernating or dead brown bears. On the other hand, the brown bears, as omnivores, tend to only hunt in the autumn, and early winter before hibernation and would not be chasing tigers. The tigers perhaps hunt smaller black bears.
I'm sorry, but i think a cat is more affective at killing than bears. You literally compare them head to head ignoring a lot of the skills and adaptions each has. It's like saying a swordsman will defeat a bowman in a fight in the MMA ring, so that means a swordsman is stronger.v
The swordsman if it survives the arrows immediate hit will win
Weight is tricky with wild bears, especially brown and black bears. It fluctuates wildly depending on the time of year.
There's an amazing video of a pair of grizzly bears in flat out combat for over 15min. I don't think there's a cat alive that can sustain that.
Correct, there is a not a big cat on earth that would try and take down one of those bears in that video, Cats cannot afford any injury and there would be a lot of injuries trying to take on one of those.
One of the cut footage in this video is of two Tigers that fought for over 15 minutes.
@@jasonwigginsA Bear can swim a 100 miles, much more stamina and power. You see those tigers struggle with even small sloth bears, imagine what a prime 1000 pound plus bear would do.
@@powerboatguy2308 The Sloth Bear argument is ridiculous. It really is. Sloths are literally a part of a Tigers diet. There's a video on RUclips of a rather small Tiger killing one in literal seconds. National Geographic has run articles about the Sloth being the most dangerous Bear species, specifically because they evolved side by side with Tigers. They know how to defend themselves against Tigers, but without any doubt whatsoever, Tigers kill Sloths.
A lions paw swipe is 27,000 n a tigers is 33,000
I think comparing these animals would be unfair. These are hybrids and these animals do not exist in the wild, and hybrids are animals that stuggle to survive in most cases. But it is still cool to compare them.
Polar and brown bear hybrids do exist in the wild
@@siamzero9480*w u t*
Oh, I forgot about that...
That doesn't mean they shouldn't be compared
@@siamzero9480
Ligers could have as well historically.
That are literal brown bears that still has Polar bear DNA in them from their ancestors that mated with the polar bears.
Groler Bear happens far often to the point of having able to birth cubs that is not sterile like ligers do
Heck if you look at russia and alaska. Their territory literally hugs each other and all takes is one rogue polar bear going to warmer climated place and mate with the brown bears😅
I gotta put this out there... The liger is cappable of surviving on it's own if given the chance. They just need to be raised in the wild like the bears. People keep saying they are fat because they are a hybred wich biologicly sounds wrong. The experiance (both of mind and body) of having to hunt for food and forrgae like bears will do also, vastly changes the drive and personality of an animal. I'd love to see a few liger cubs get orpahned to a wild tigress and her raise them as her own. Then see what they turn into.
"no matter what animal you are, you certainly wouldn't want to come face to face with this hybrid." argentinosaurus, barosaurus, tyrannosaurus, palaeoloxodon, triceratops, shantungosaurus, blue whale, deinosuchus, humpback whale, sperm whale and human with two flamethrowers in a giant truck covered in spikes: are we a joke to you?
Yes I suppose ligers are usually obese, because who would want to be around a hungry one?
Light is built like Garfield
What if we marged Nile crocodile and Tiger? 🤔🙊
A large siberian tiger would stand a better chance than a liger !
I agree, tigers are much more healthy and experienced so they'd likely put up a better fight
I can't believe that you left out African Wild Dogs when mentioning African Lion's competitions. They can be overwhelming in large numbers.
Ligers would propably loose to large Siberian tigers since those alot more muscular
Liger just a human factored pet.....while the Bear the largest and strongest predator
Bear smokes the cat in toughness…..bears are extremely hard to hurt.
Could't agree more with this assesment
The power of a paw strike wouldn't matter because bears don't usually strike with their paws. They push and grab but hardly ever strike with them. Pay attention next time you see them fight. You won't see paw strikes coming from the bears. A lot of pushing. Also tigers will go after smaller or weaker bears just like any predator would. All predators will go for the easiest kill. That is how nature programed them. But there are many accounts of tigers attacking full grown males and killing them. Tigers have been killed as well. A study done on 34 encounters between tigers and bears with 50% of them a dead bear was found. 50% of those were full grown males. 25% a dead tiger was found. Most were tigresses with a few tigers. The remaining 25% were considered a draw because no dead tiger or bear was found. Just bloody tracks heading off in two different directions. There have been other studies on tiger and bear encounters and the results were fairly similar. This fight is kind of hard to call unless the Grolar was a wild one. Since no ligers live in the wild, against a wild grolar, it probably wouldn't stand a chance. There is a lot of people, mostly lion fanboys, who have no idea what the difference between a wild animal and a captive one is. The difference is a pretty big advantage for the wild one.
Liger bite force 950psi at 400kg. My family pet Bruce the Kangal dog 750psi at 105kg.
It would be the worst day of the bears' life, even if he won his skin would be sliced and shredded probably beyond recovery. Cats are insanely fast and accurate.
So you picked the largest specimen of Liger vs above average Grolar you do realize the largest Bear specimen known to us (modern times)was a Polar that weighed approx 1,1 tons and stood roughly 11ft on it´s hind legs. So a 1 percentile Grolar should be around 700-800kg or more and stand 3m tall (1500-1800lbs/10ft). Simple scenario. Grolar stands up, does his "whroar" Liger legs it.
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FALSE. I mean you're generally right, but you seem to be calling coastal brown bears grizzlies. Grizzlies are inland brown bears. Grizzlies are smaller than coastal brown bears. The biggest bears ever recorded were coastal brown bears, although mostly polar bears are bigger.
Biased as hell video you've made here... Basically like "Ligers are said to ___________, but I find that unreliable so I will nerf the stat myself to something more imaginary and within the range my zero hands-on knowledge of the matter can cope with." While basically ADMITTING "and that sucks because the two cat species going into a liger ARE KNOWN TO BE FAST AND AGILE YET SMALLER....." Ahhh but onto the other animal I have no direct experience with the Grohler bear! Well estimates give pretty substantial stats to this beat I love so much but that just don't do justice to the construct of the animal in my head so I'm just going to pad them more to my liking." And despite the possibility of Ligers once existing in the wild, I'm going to pit the wild Grohler against an obese privately owned pet version of today that is literally only out of shape because they're never given adequate exercise like they would get in the wild feeding themselves."
I'm really not trying to be an ass but I clicked on the video with high hopes it would be objective and it's totally not. Tigers kill bears in areas where their habitats cross naturally and get killed by them as well. I have no doubt that a grizzly or polar bear would easily win in a fight against the tiger due to the sheer size difference but when you close that size difference gap with a liger vs groler and accept the fact that your imagination is the only place this battle is ever going to take place so pit them against each other as equally as possible such as both being wind and fully grown and in their prime in a setting that might actually see them encounter each other however unlikely, I personally believe that you get a much more even fight with the winner being more based on circumstances than anything else. Tigers usually attack stealthily from behind which is why farmers living in their habitats wear masks on the backs of their heads. Female lions are known to hunt in groups while grizzly and polar bears are mostly solitary animals as adults. The bear has the advantage in a head to head one on one chance encounter but still not a guaranteed win. The cat has the advantage in most likely real world scenarios but also not guaranteed the win. I think the bear has it over the cat 6-7 maybe even 8 out of 10 in one on one encounters but seeing as Ligers appear to have more familial kinship more akin to lions than tigers there a good chance a real world encounter in the wild might just be one adult groler bear vs a liger accompanied by lions, more Ligers or possibly even both. Multiple Ligers hunting vs groler bear I give to the Ligers 9 to 10 out of 10. Less but still in the Ligers favor if accompanied by lions.
a Polar/ Kodiak hybrid would be considerably larger and stronger, a Liger raised in the wild would be considerably stronger and more fit. how would either of those hybrids compare against a Smilodon?
Some of the videos and websites I saw definitely had the hybrid bears as much larger than both parent species. I feel like 50 different websites could say 50 different things though these days 🤷🏻♂️
To compare a captive Liger to a wild Grolar Bear is unfair. The Bear would win easily. But let's say that in the past there were wild Ligers. Then the picture would be very differen. A wild Liger would be faster and smarter than a Grolar Bear. Not to mention the Ligers agility. Grolar Bear would be bigger and stronger. But the Liger would be the supreme hunter with better speed and agility. Still I think there is a good chance the Grolar Bear would winn on its ability to take more damage and keep on fighting. it's vital organs are better protected by sheer musclemass and fatty tissue. But it would not be a sure win. A Liger could probably bite through the scull of a Grolar. But so could a Grolar bite through a Ligers scull.
For the liger to have the best chance possible. It would need to inherit the strong hind legs of the tiger, so that it's able to stand comfortably on two legs to fight. It would also need maximum athleticism - the obese cats wouldn't be fit for this fight! However, a cat weighing over 400kg and maintaining the acrobatics that cats are famous for... that weight jumping at the bear while the bear is standing up on two legs, could knock the bear backwards.
The cat can't win a wrestling match with the great bear! The cat needs to be in top shape to capitalise on its acrobatic advantage and really make it count!
Even then, the bear still has a serious strength advantage and isn't slow either. This hypothetical scenario may well be settled by who struck first and the contact made. Cats have an incredibly fast recoil, so the bear might struggle to land hit, but if "boxing" the bear would hurt the cat bad with just one swipe, and that's from power, possibly knocking the cat unconscious. The cat is faster though, and has sharper claws. If a claw catches the bear on the eye... that's a game changer!
Bear wins, but fight doesn't go to death. Bears eat animals alive. Cats choke & kill. The cat runs off injured. Brar may eat dead cat after long suffering.