I'm still that old guy from Idaho, but that's the best historical description of that rifle/ammo I've heard Dick - thank you. Of course now you have me curious about getting one through CMP for my collection!!
Great video Mr. Fairburn. My first two duty rifles were a 303 British and a Winchester M94 in 30-30. I was never a big fan of shotguns unless they were loaded with slugs. Awesome M1 Sir! My dad carried an M1 Garand. He said it was a great rifle except the weight.
I am so very glad that I found this channel. I bought a used M1 Garand in the late 1970s in Rhodesia during the Civil War. It was a Springfield Armory manufactured rifle and accompanying it was a half filled case of ammunition from Denver Ordnance. From what I could understand the rifle was of World War II vintage and so was the ammunition. The ammunition had been very poorly stored and was partially corroded. In fact, some of the ammunition was so bad that hang-fires occurring very frequently and the delay from pressing the trigger to the shot discharging would be several seconds. Very dangerous and annoying but 30-06 ammo was very difficult to find at the time so I had to make do. At the end of the war I left Rhodesia and regrettably had to leave the rifle behind. I have always wanted to get another one but now that I’m an old man I need to think about getting rid of my modest gun collection anyway. Thank you very much Dick for this very informative discussion about the Garand. I particularly like that very useful tip about the carbon dioxide and I will definitely give that a try. Listening to your talk sure brought back lots of memories. I really would like to fire a Garand once more before I die. They are magnificent!
Thanks for posting this video, I thoroughly enjoyed it and I learned some things. Your rifle is a very nice piece of WW2 history. I own a .30 Carbine from WW2, I got from my Grandfather. I have never shot an M1 Garand, but the way it was hitting the steel plate, at the end of your video, looked like someone hitting it with a sledge hammer. I guess that's what separates the Garands from the .30 Carbines. LOL!
Dick , I had a IH for quite a few years, it was a custom, engraved, a sporter Yama wood stock, and was excellent quality. I qualified with a M1…..Yes, old as dirt ! Thx
My dad worked for IH in the '50s. I don't know what part he was working on, but I know he was working on the M-1 weapon. I have an M-1 but mine is not an IH model. Mine is still in 30-06. I love the fact that it has been reliable (I use 30-06 match ammo [I was on a military rifle team for several years and was issued several rounds for individual training]).
Thank You. You do such a great and clear message in your videos, There is one thing to be caucus about. That is that the use of sporting loads with high chamber pressure (Can) tweed the operating rod. They are HARD to find and expensive. Always load to standard chamber pressures. You can shoot it the rest of your life w/o a worry. I just received an E-mail from CMP stating the ammo is again available. I bought mine for the historical connection. Thanks again. You are an encyclopedia..
Was there in May attempting to video a big Grizzly - no show. Will be back for a late season cow elk tag in December. Illinois is getting so stupid I'm about to sell out here, now that I'm retired, and come back out to God's country.
Thank you for addressing the ammo question. Interestingly enough, CMP states not to use ammo that's over 50k CUP and 172/174 grains. The SAAMI limit on 30-06 ammo is 50k CUP. So if you buy modern, commercial ammo from someone who's generally a SAAMI participant - you're not going to be over 50k CUP.
Enjoyed this video. My first M1 was purchased in an IHC lottery at the CMP. Very nice example in CmP wood. I purchased an IHC stock on eBay, the seller was from NYC area and this stock had a tag on it with the serial number of the rifle it came off of and the owners name, the name was Bill Allard. I researched this and found there was a Bill Allard in the NYPD, maybe he had the same idea as yourself having the M1 as his back up coach gun?. Never the less, again enjoyed this video.
Regarding chamber pressures in the M-1; I chose to install a GarandGear(TM) ported gas plug in my M-1 for peace of mind after bending mine using HV hunting rounds. I shoot only M2 ball at the range, but have a supply of HV 30-06 hunting rounds for backup. I take everything on my boating trips in my John boat.
I was right there with you with the DCM, and had shot in a sanctioned match, but in 1995 with a young family didn’t have the $250 a Garand cost. Fast forward 27 years and I picked up an SA “Expert” from CMP for 4 times as much, and earlier this year an International Harvester Expert (new barrel and stock) for even more. Early 6 digit Winchester experts were a bit less, but I wanted a rarer IH. Interestingly enough most of the parts match as IH on my rifle, that is within a few units of serial number 5,000,000 made in July 1954. Funny, the metal finishing on my Jan. 1944 SA is slightly better than on the 10 year newer IH, so I’m thinking it might have been a harder used Philippine return rifle. I wish I had been able to get a couple of M1’s in the heyday of DCM rifles, but am glad I have a couple now. Hatcher is correct, and I use ammo heavier than M2 ball in my Garands with no issues, but for a safety margin installed Schuster ported and adjustable ported plugs to take it a bit easier on the rifle. However, I think the emphasis on only using M2 ball has become something of an urban legend a lot of people repeat without thinking. I have a case of that same M2 ball, Danish manufacture from 1991, wish I had bought more of it! Thanks for a very informative video! 👍 P.S. The dry ice will work, but too much trouble for my book. Just toss a couple of oxygen absorbers in the can, the same ones used for food storage. I have a mason jar full of them. They’ll do the trick, but even that is optional in my book as long as you keep the ammo cool, clean and dry. I have some M2 equivalent I loaded with my Dad in 1963 when I was 7 years old, and it still looks pristine.
In your opinion, what would a 100% IHC Garand be worth? I have my unicorn IHC with an LMR•54 barrel and she’s parts complete except the rear stock doesn’t have any Cyrillic numbers stamped inside like many books point to as an IHC stock. Original parkerizing is 90-95%. It was imported to Canada in 1974 and I have all the paperwork it came with. Serial number is 5091***. Every single metal part has the correct IHC markings right down to the gas plug and front sight screw. The walnut stock is gorgeous. Shoots like a dream!
I am NOT up to speed on collector values. Your serial number does correspond to an IHC manufactured receiver, not a Springfield Armory or Harrington Richardson which was marked by IHC (according to the NRA article). I have seen collector grade IHC rifles posted on RUclips from FFL dealers, so I would search for that and see what those go for. Lucky find, did you get it through DCM/CMP?
@@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb no, I’m up in Alberta, Canada (or what’s left of it after 8 years under Trudeau). The rifle was bought by a friend’s uncle for his farm in 1974. He originally ordered an FN-FAL which was legal back then. He even tossed in $20 extra for a hand picked good one. The gun laws changed and the FN-FAL became prohibited so he settled on a Garand. He shot about 20 rounds in 40 years lol. He then gave it to his nephew, my friend and coworker. The walnut was still so nice my friend bought a Ram black plastic stock and took it hunting one season. He was going to be a dad again and needed money so I bought a few guns from him including the IHC beauty. So the rifle was imported by a company in Montreal, Quebec in 1974 and and fired under 100 rounds when it became mine. Never to be sold. My son and grandsons get it next. FYI I served with the RCMP so I understand the need for a good rifle in rural areas. We had no patrol carbines like today but I kept a Model 70 308 Win with a 4x scope in the trunk. The 870’s all had rifle sights so I zeroed mine at 50 yards with slugs.
@@14goldmedals I've read lots of stories about the RCMP of old carrying lever action rifles, probably more out west where you are. We joke about being under communist-lite rule here, but you guys have it much worse up north. I think if a liberal/conservative civil war does break out it might start in western Canada over guns.
@@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb there was a time when the Detachments had a supply of Canadian Lee Enfield rifles, Cold War preparedness. The prime minister is starting to go down in flames and we’re all hoping for a Conservative win. You’re right about Alberta never giving up any guns. We’d separate and join the USA before that. The untapped resources alone makes us desirable. But our attitudes about freedom matches many States!
@@14goldmedals I think we need a wide red line running from Florida to Alaska and I'm pretty sure you western provinces would join us. The liberals can have the coasts (until they shit in their nests and come looking for freedom). The red area is where most of the country's food and other essentials comes from. We'll starve them out in a decade!
Great job on the video Dick, just found your channel recently and enjoy the topics you cover. I have a ‘42 Springfield that I had a Criterion barrel fitted, an .062 NM front sight, and a fresh stock (original was a mess). I’ve shot it out to 400y on steel, and it’s amazing how well the rear yardage come ups dial those M2 rounds perfectly on target. For an 80y old rifle not too shabby. Keep up the good work sir!
Thanks for the kind words. When I got the rifle I lived in Wyoming and a couple of us took them out onto BLM land where we could "engage" rocks out to well more than a mile. We had no rangefinders then, but with sight marks out to 1200 yards, you could come awfully close to a man-sized target.
I bought one in the 1970s for $125.00 through my department, it wasn’t in the greatest shape but it appears to be mostly IH. I also bought a M1 carbine around the same time period for $75.00, IBM. I wish I could go back and do it again, they didn’t have a limit on how many you could buy then.
hey brotha dick, i am a new sub for ya n i am a u.s. marine vet here 93' to 97' active ! , only have email here , would love to talk more n godspeed to our beloved 2A, thanks n talk soon > tom !
Finally someone with the correct information on Garands and M1 ball.
AMEN! I still think it's the best even today
I'm still that old guy from Idaho, but that's the best historical description of that rifle/ammo I've heard Dick - thank you. Of course now you have me curious about getting one through CMP for my collection!!
Thanks for the kind words.
Great video Mr. Fairburn. My first two duty rifles were a 303 British and a Winchester M94 in 30-30. I was never a big fan of shotguns unless they were loaded with slugs. Awesome M1 Sir! My dad carried an M1 Garand. He said it was a great rifle except the weight.
Which Brit? Jungle carbine?
I agree with you,I am with you.
1. that is a cool rifle to have.
2. you live in a beautiful state.
3. great tip on the ammo storage
I am so very glad that I found this channel.
I bought a used M1 Garand in the late 1970s in Rhodesia during the Civil War. It was a Springfield Armory manufactured rifle and accompanying it was a half filled case of ammunition from Denver Ordnance.
From what I could understand the rifle was of World War II vintage and so was the ammunition. The ammunition had been very poorly stored and was partially corroded. In fact, some of the ammunition was so bad that hang-fires occurring very frequently and the delay from pressing the trigger to the shot discharging would be several seconds. Very dangerous and annoying but 30-06 ammo was very difficult to find at the time so I had to make do.
At the end of the war I left Rhodesia and regrettably had to leave the rifle behind. I have always wanted to get another one but now that I’m an old man I need to think about getting rid of my modest gun collection anyway.
Thank you very much Dick for this very informative discussion about the Garand. I particularly like that very useful tip about the carbon dioxide and I will definitely give that a try.
Listening to your talk sure brought back lots of memories. I really would like to fire a Garand once more before I die. They are magnificent!
If you do find one before you die, regrettably, the rifle will not be allowed to accompany you.
Glad you enjoyed the video. I think M1s have made their way to every corner of the globe.
Thanks for posting this video, I thoroughly enjoyed it and I learned some things. Your rifle is a very nice piece of WW2 history. I own a .30 Carbine from WW2, I got from my Grandfather.
I have never shot an M1 Garand, but the way it was hitting the steel plate, at the end of your video, looked like someone hitting it with a sledge hammer. I guess that's what separates the Garands from the .30 Carbines. LOL!
Similar to a plate being hit by a 9mm and then a .45. The difference in "smack" has to amount to something!
Heads up, a marked cartouche JLG stock is a 53' NM stock.
Dick , I had a IH for quite a few years, it was a custom, engraved, a sporter Yama wood stock, and was excellent quality. I qualified with a M1…..Yes, old as dirt ! Thx
My dad worked for IH in the '50s. I don't know what part he was working on, but I know he was working on the M-1 weapon. I have an M-1 but mine is not an IH model. Mine is still in 30-06. I love the fact that it has been reliable (I use 30-06 match ammo [I was on a military rifle team for several years and was issued several rounds for individual training]).
Thank You. You do such a great and clear message in your videos, There is one thing to be caucus about. That is that the use of sporting loads with high chamber pressure (Can) tweed the operating rod. They are HARD to find and expensive. Always load to standard chamber pressures. You can shoot it the rest of your life w/o a worry.
I just received an E-mail from CMP stating the ammo is again available. I bought mine for the historical connection. Thanks again. You are an encyclopedia..
Thanks for the kind words!
The CMP is strictly a commercial company. Just like any other surplus arms dealer. The CMP is worse than the CMP as they are for profit.
Great content and information sir. You should come back to Wyoming. It’s still great🤠
Was there in May attempting to video a big Grizzly - no show. Will be back for a late season cow elk tag in December. Illinois is getting so stupid I'm about to sell out here, now that I'm retired, and come back out to God's country.
The IH Garand I got was supposedly built or assembled in 1954. The magazine system has Harrington and Richardson markings.
Thank you for addressing the ammo question. Interestingly enough, CMP states not to use ammo that's over 50k CUP and 172/174 grains. The SAAMI limit on 30-06 ammo is 50k CUP. So if you buy modern, commercial ammo from someone who's generally a SAAMI participant - you're not going to be over 50k CUP.
I think the ammo/damage issue is overdone. Most guys are not likely to shoot a lot of commercial loads.
Enjoyed this video. My first M1 was purchased in an IHC lottery at the CMP. Very nice example in CmP wood. I purchased an IHC stock on eBay, the seller was from NYC area and this stock had a tag on it with the serial number of the rifle it came off of and the owners name, the name was Bill Allard. I researched this and found there was a Bill Allard in the NYPD, maybe he had the same idea as yourself having the M1 as his back up coach gun?. Never the less, again enjoyed this video.
Regarding chamber pressures in the M-1; I chose to install a GarandGear(TM) ported gas plug in my M-1 for peace of mind after bending mine using HV hunting rounds.
I shoot only M2 ball at the range, but have a supply of HV 30-06 hunting rounds for backup.
I take everything on my boating trips in my John boat.
I was right there with you with the DCM, and had shot in a sanctioned match, but in 1995 with a young family didn’t have the $250 a Garand cost. Fast forward 27 years and I picked up an SA “Expert” from CMP for 4 times as much, and earlier this year an International Harvester Expert (new barrel and stock) for even more. Early 6 digit Winchester experts were a bit less, but I wanted a rarer IH.
Interestingly enough most of the parts match as IH on my rifle, that is within a few units of serial number 5,000,000 made in July 1954.
Funny, the metal finishing on my Jan. 1944 SA is slightly better than on the 10 year newer IH, so I’m thinking it might have been a harder used Philippine return rifle.
I wish I had been able to get a couple of M1’s in the heyday of DCM rifles, but am glad I have a couple now.
Hatcher is correct, and I use ammo heavier than M2 ball in my Garands with no issues, but for a safety margin installed Schuster ported and adjustable ported plugs to take it a bit easier on the rifle. However, I think the emphasis on only using M2 ball has become something of an urban legend a lot of people repeat without thinking.
I have a case of that same M2 ball, Danish manufacture from 1991, wish I had bought more of it! Thanks for a very informative video! 👍
P.S. The dry ice will work, but too much trouble for my book. Just toss a couple of oxygen absorbers in the can, the same ones used for food storage. I have a mason jar full of them. They’ll do the trick, but even that is optional in my book as long as you keep the ammo cool, clean and dry. I have some M2 equivalent I loaded with my Dad in 1963 when I was 7 years old, and it still looks pristine.
And a good man with an M1 would still be a dangerous adversary today!
In your opinion, what would a 100% IHC Garand be worth?
I have my unicorn IHC with an LMR•54 barrel and she’s parts complete except the rear stock doesn’t have any Cyrillic numbers stamped inside like many books point to as an IHC stock. Original parkerizing is 90-95%.
It was imported to Canada in 1974 and I have all the paperwork it came with. Serial number is 5091***. Every single metal part has the correct IHC markings right down to the gas plug and front sight screw. The walnut stock is gorgeous.
Shoots like a dream!
I am NOT up to speed on collector values. Your serial number does correspond to an IHC manufactured receiver, not a Springfield Armory or Harrington Richardson which was marked by IHC (according to the NRA article). I have seen collector grade IHC rifles posted on RUclips from FFL dealers, so I would search for that and see what those go for. Lucky find, did you get it through DCM/CMP?
@@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb no, I’m up in Alberta, Canada (or what’s left of it after 8 years under Trudeau). The rifle was bought by a friend’s uncle for his farm in 1974. He originally ordered an FN-FAL which was legal back then. He even tossed in $20 extra for a hand picked good one. The gun laws changed and the FN-FAL became prohibited so he settled on a Garand.
He shot about 20 rounds in 40 years lol. He then gave it to his nephew, my friend and coworker. The walnut was still so nice my friend bought a Ram black plastic stock and took it hunting one season. He was going to be a dad again and needed money so I bought a few guns from him including the IHC beauty.
So the rifle was imported by a company in Montreal, Quebec in 1974 and and fired under 100 rounds when it became mine. Never to be sold. My son and grandsons get it next.
FYI I served with the RCMP so I understand the need for a good rifle in rural areas. We had no patrol carbines like today but I kept a Model 70 308 Win with a 4x scope in the trunk. The 870’s all had rifle sights so I zeroed mine at 50 yards with slugs.
@@14goldmedals I've read lots of stories about the RCMP of old carrying lever action rifles, probably more out west where you are. We joke about being under communist-lite rule here, but you guys have it much worse up north. I think if a liberal/conservative civil war does break out it might start in western Canada over guns.
@@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb there was a time when the Detachments had a supply of Canadian Lee Enfield rifles, Cold War preparedness. The prime minister is starting to go down in flames and we’re all hoping for a Conservative win.
You’re right about Alberta never giving up any guns. We’d separate and join the USA before that. The untapped resources alone makes us desirable. But our attitudes about freedom matches many States!
@@14goldmedals I think we need a wide red line running from Florida to Alaska and I'm pretty sure you western provinces would join us. The liberals can have the coasts (until they shit in their nests and come looking for freedom). The red area is where most of the country's food and other essentials comes from. We'll starve them out in a decade!
Great job on the video Dick, just found your channel recently and enjoy the topics you cover.
I have a ‘42 Springfield that I had a Criterion barrel fitted, an .062 NM front sight, and a fresh stock (original was a mess).
I’ve shot it out to 400y on steel, and it’s amazing how well the rear yardage come ups dial those M2 rounds perfectly on target.
For an 80y old rifle not too shabby.
Keep up the good work sir!
Thanks for the kind words. When I got the rifle I lived in Wyoming and a couple of us took them out onto BLM land where we could "engage" rocks out to well more than a mile. We had no rangefinders then, but with sight marks out to 1200 yards, you could come awfully close to a man-sized target.
I bought one in the 1970s for $125.00 through my department, it wasn’t in the greatest shape but it appears to be mostly IH.
I also bought a M1 carbine around the same time period for $75.00, IBM.
I wish I could go back and do it again, they didn’t have a limit on how many you could buy then.
That muzzle device that traps gas is the "bang" system I think! I might be wrong lol
This is a great info video
Thanks!
I’m in the process of buying a fairly complete IH 1953. Should have it in 2 weeks
You'll have a ball with it.
Cracks on back of receiver happen seen one myself. overloaded handload ammo
George Patton was drunk when he said that
Another great video brother bye the way consider replying proper pistol hold thank you
Mmm 🤔 arisaka might have been strong but I guarantee you the action of a Mauser is stronger than an M1
what do you recommend for onion field insurance
Not sure I follow ... you referring to the Wambaugh book?
And wait, you kept a rifle bought with tax dollars!? Must be nice
Nah, compare to the Owens you guys were just bushwalking.
hey brotha dick, i am a new sub for ya n i am a u.s. marine vet here 93' to 97' active ! , only have email here , would love to talk more n godspeed to our beloved 2A, thanks n talk soon > tom !
Thanks for the sub and for your service.
Hmmm, so back to the very beginning of the militarization of police, from a Vietnam vet at that….