Thank you for proving HHS is a convenience not a necessity. Thanks to RUclips many photographers don't realize you can actually take pictures outdoors with flash and having them turn out beautiful.
Thanks Kenneth. If nothing else this proved to me that once the photography is done, the resulting images looked great whichever route you take... So I'm going to stick to the convenience route 😉
Probably noted here already, but High speed sync really eats your battery power, so you'll get a lot more shooting with the ND filter - worth bearing in mind. Great tutorial - as always !
Hi speed eat 1/8, ND eat 1/4, which is much power consumption. It is the game between high speed sync technology with solid unchanged ND. High speed win.
@@huyongquan6554 High Speed Sync generally robs you of a good bit more flash power than ND filters. That's just fact. ND's don't rob you of power. You just need more power the greater the strength of the ND filter but it doesn't rob you of any flash power out the gate.
I never even knew about using an ND filter with flash until recently, so this was quite an informatiive video. I've been practicing more with HSS, & find it quite versatile. With that said, there's always other uses for the ND, so I think I'll pick one up in the near future & play around with it, too. Thanks!
Perfect timing. Just used a variable ND filter for the first time to take sunset portraits at a sunflower field using off camera flash. Was pleasantly surprised 🙏
Gavin, thank you so much for yet another great video and toturial. From your closing line, you said that using a mirrorless camera made it easy to use the ND filter because of the intelligent EVF. This means that using the filter with a DSLR will not be so easy as it will be hard to focus and even compose. So as a DSLR user I think HSS Flash is the answer for me.
I use a nikon d610 dslr and it works perfectly. I use a variable nd filter. Twist to let in light and focus, then twist to darken and take my shot. No issues what so ever, especially if you don't have an HSS setup available.
Thanks Gavin! Excellent break down of the processes. May be a good idea to cover the disadvantages of HSS such as limited distance due to power consumption as well as flash overheating issues with multiple shots. The ND filter would not make the flash overheat as much and you will have a longer distance if necessary for the flash to reach. Thanks again.
I’m glad to see more people talking about ND filters. One of my favorite ways to shoot is full sun using my ND 16 (4 stop) filter and 38 or 45 degree hard light reflectors.
I really enjoy your videos. They are easy to follow and understand. I tend to want to watch your's much more than other Adorama videos. (no offense to the others but it's true) Thanks for what you do.
Thank you! Now I have a much better understanding of HSS and I look forward to practicing it. Love your videos - fun and educational! Most importantly, to the point.
Thanks Gavin. You solved my biggest problem. I can't afford a light metre. I use a godox xpro and your ittl to manual technique saved my day. Thanks again.
While there is some issue with needing increased power with HSS, given the capabilities of the XPlor 400, there is ample power to accomplish the task. One of the things I really admire about Gavin's work is that he provides a humble low cost solution without showing Profoto flash units, 75 different Profoto branded modifiers, and the latest and greatest Sekonic light meter. I have been watching Gavin's videos for the past 8 years and I keep learning more and more with every time I go back and watch something again. I think the take home message with the TCM feature is that once you dial in the necessary power level, you can lock in the settings rather than relying on any variations as a result of HSS. In an auto mode, HSS can vary between shots and the end-result can be uneven. The ND filters are fascinating to me as it basically becomes a scrim on the lens. There is a need for increased flash power there too to a degree. One thing that really helps the situation with ND filters is that both the Sekonic 478 and 858 have a built in compensation for ND filters. On the other hand, I liked Gavin's explanation of using the meter and adjusting for 5 stops to compensate for the ND filter.
Great video explaining on how to use ND filters & HSS. Other than saving on the life of your batteries. Are there any other advantages on one over the other? Explaining the use of the TCM button a plus as well.
This was an excellent and informative video. I also liked the setting for the photo shoot and the model's costume. Seeing those was also educational. Gavin's enthusiasm is always fun and inspirational. I really appreciate Adorama sponsoring such great videos.
Awesome video and tips as always from Gavin. Funny/weird thought...I never been at a lonely cabin on the woods alone with another person holding a Axe. Beautiful pictures thou. 😉
Love your videos. I always learn so much, that I realize I need to watch all your videos. Anyway, will ND filters work as well as HSS for action type sports portraits. The ones where I’ve seen HSS used to create dramatic portraits.
Very nice B roll makes this an easy to follow educational video. I'd love a follow up discussing ND color cast, editing, and gelling the flash based on time of day.
Enjoyed this. Liked the section where you took photo using ttl setting and then pressed tcm button, which put in a manual setting for strobe strength. Do you have any other tutorials about the use of ttl and manual on the remote?
Great video Mr. Gavin Hoey its great to see side by side what one can get with either ND Filters Or High Sync Speed! Thanks ADORAMA for having this great and informative videos on your channel.
I wish you would have tested the ND filters that fit over the sensor. I'm curious as to how the camera focuses with one of those vs. the on lens filter.
This is awesome. Although a blown out background can be a stylistic choice, I liked seeing ideas of how to tame a very bright and often unpleasant background. You presented it in a very simple and understandable way! I've used off camera flash but fairly recently figured out how to set up for HSS on my EOS R. I was confused after watching the display blink at 1/200 and why I couldn't increase the shutter speed, and then the light bulb went on after some research. :) I'm looking forward to our session this weekend, which unfortunately had to be at 9AM, will be more successful when employing these tips for shots where we may have a very bright background. Thank you Gavin!
4:05 ... Not really a bad shot as is, drop them highlights, lower contrast a bit, a tiny tiny bit of saturation and it would make a nice light and airy natural lit photo. Awesome shots man! I'm not a filter type guy but you workin them suckers man. Love the videos ALL of them! FYI, that wasn't no luck, that's experience, sometimes we simply question ourselves but typically nail the shot lol. Love it that way. You simply know how to look with your eyes and can pretty much pinpoint where your settings go without no durn light meter.
Great Video as always Gavin👍🏼. The TCM option on the trigger is new to me though. I use Godox and Canon mirrorless. Is there any such option with this setup?
Great results from both the ND filters and HSS. If a small reduction in contrast is the only difference you can see, then that would suggest that you are using insanely expensive ND filters. For many years, Ive been using Hoya ND filters which are considered quite good in terms of quality but obviously not top of the range or super expensive. Generally, Ive been very happy with them for slow shutter speeds of rushing water and for video work. Though recently, I tried something Ive never done before. I photographed the same scene with and without a Hoya 3 stop ND filter. And I was quite alarmed by the differences. The photos taken without the filter came out so much nicer and the ones with the filter had a weird, unpleasant look about them. Previously, I was strongly considering using ND filters for outdoor portraits with flash (being on a small budget) but now I'm not so sure after seeing my own comparison photos.
Thank you Gavin. Perfect timing. I want to upgrade my entry level DSLR which can't do HSS but funds are a bit tight ATM. I'm definately going to try the filters at the first opportunity. Thanks for another great video.
Thank you for proving HHS is a convenience not a necessity. Thanks to RUclips many photographers don't realize you can actually take pictures outdoors with flash and having them turn out beautiful.
Thanks Kenneth. If nothing else this proved to me that once the photography is done, the resulting images looked great whichever route you take... So I'm going to stick to the convenience route 😉
Mr. Gavin Hoey, you did it again!
Another great tutorial video.
This has to be the simplest and the most explanatory video on HSS vs ND FILTER. thank you, Gavin Hoey and Adorama.
Thanks for the kind words. Simple is by default setting 😉
This video inspired me to take up wood-chopping. Seriously, great video on HSS!
Probably noted here already, but High speed sync really eats your battery power, so you'll get a lot more shooting with the ND filter - worth bearing in mind. Great tutorial - as always !
Hi speed eat 1/8, ND eat 1/4, which is much power consumption. It is the game between high speed sync technology with solid unchanged ND. High speed win.
@@huyongquan6554 High Speed Sync generally robs you of a good bit more flash power than ND filters. That's just fact. ND's don't rob you of power. You just need more power the greater the strength of the ND filter but it doesn't rob you of any flash power out the gate.
@@jasonbodden8816 and no HSS flash banding problems with electronic shutter
Always a joy to watch Gavin at work. 😊👍
I never even knew about using an ND filter with flash until recently, so this was quite an informatiive video. I've been practicing more with HSS, & find it quite versatile. With that said, there's always other uses for the ND, so I think I'll pick one up in the near future & play around with it, too. Thanks!
Perfect timing. Just used a variable ND filter for the first time to take sunset portraits at a sunflower field using off camera flash. Was pleasantly surprised 🙏
You have any trouble with the VND? I have one and have to be careful as it can create x type shadows at certain angles
@@jimpack9622 Well, the X pattern only forms at the very extreme end of the filter's range so it's best to avoid that portion of its range.
I really must remember the TCM option on the trigger. Quite handy for initial tests. Great video as always Gavin
It really is a handy feature Iain, especially when social distancing makes using a flash meter tricky.
Gavin Hoey must be protected at all costs. What a helpful gem of a human.
Using a strobe in HSS mode will significantly reduce flash output, about half, if you need the flash’s full power ND filters are best.
Light from the flash going through a ND filter will loose power, too (stops as per the filter’s rating)
@@Abakaschi But you still have the FULL range of power of your flash at your disposal. That's the difference.
It’s unfair that we can just like once. Gavin, your videos deserve more than one like!
Gavin, great to see you outdoors...
Gavin, thank you so much for yet another great video and toturial.
From your closing line, you said that using a mirrorless camera made it easy to use the ND filter because of the intelligent EVF. This means that using the filter with a DSLR will not be so easy as it will be hard to focus and even compose. So as a DSLR user I think HSS Flash is the answer for me.
I use a nikon d610 dslr and it works perfectly. I use a variable nd filter. Twist to let in light and focus, then twist to darken and take my shot. No issues what so ever, especially if you don't have an HSS setup available.
@@bernidre that’s also how I do it on my dslr
The Ted Lasso of photography. Great tutorial, thanks for the side by side comparisons!
Gavin and Jade flash brilliance by filtering the results.....Bravo to you both!
Thanks Booth. Filtering the results was spot on. I always end up with lots of great photos with Jade, so choosing which to use is never easy 😀
Lovely Gavin. Always admire your work.
Thanks Gavin! Excellent break down of the processes. May be a good idea to cover the disadvantages of HSS such as limited distance due to power consumption as well as flash overheating issues with multiple shots. The ND filter would not make the flash overheat as much and you will have a longer distance if necessary for the flash to reach. Thanks again.
But you need to have a mirrorless camera so your viewfinder would not be dark when viewing thru it.
@@thehumanityoflife6460 are you sure mirrorless viewfinder not dark?
this is excellent info and examples
4:55 That's not luck, it's experience 😊
Probably a bit of both Errol 😉
That bokeh is stunning. Such lovely rendering
Another excellent and informative video Gavin, well done
I’m glad to see more people talking about ND filters. One of my favorite ways to shoot is full sun using my ND 16 (4 stop) filter and 38 or 45 degree hard light reflectors.
Do you use any flash?
Thanks Gavin. Wonderful explanation and good tips too.
That was very informative. I love it . Excellent work Gavin
I really enjoy your videos. They are easy to follow and understand. I tend to want to watch your's much more than other Adorama videos. (no offense to the others but it's true) Thanks for what you do.
Thank you! Now I have a much better understanding of HSS and I look forward to practicing it. Love your videos - fun and educational! Most importantly, to the point.
Great, simple, and easy to understand explanation
Hi Gavin. You are THE guy! I am learning a lot watching your videos. Thank you. Congrats from Brazil!
Nice camera +, nice setup, + beautiful model= great images; and behind all that, a nice set of skills from experience. Thank you Gavin.
Thanks Gavin. You solved my biggest problem. I can't afford a light metre. I use a godox xpro and your ittl to manual technique saved my day. Thanks again.
Great video, thanks Gavin and Jade.
Awesome work mate. Enthusiastic concise delivery. Gavin for the win 🥰
Thanks for the comparison between the two methods. Haven't done much work with filters, so this was nice.
Hey From Pensacola Florida love watching all ur videos ur extremely informative and I’ve learned a ton from you
While there is some issue with needing increased power with HSS, given the capabilities of the XPlor 400, there is ample power to accomplish the task. One of the things I really admire about Gavin's work is that he provides a humble low cost solution without showing Profoto flash units, 75 different Profoto branded modifiers, and the latest and greatest Sekonic light meter. I have been watching Gavin's videos for the past 8 years and I keep learning more and more with every time I go back and watch something again.
I think the take home message with the TCM feature is that once you dial in the necessary power level, you can lock in the settings rather than relying on any variations as a result of HSS. In an auto mode, HSS can vary between shots and the end-result can be uneven.
The ND filters are fascinating to me as it basically becomes a scrim on the lens. There is a need for increased flash power there too to a degree. One thing that really helps the situation with ND filters is that both the Sekonic 478 and 858 have a built in compensation for ND filters. On the other hand, I liked Gavin's explanation of using the meter and adjusting for 5 stops to compensate for the ND filter.
EXCELENTE !!! MAGISTRAL !!! FELICITACIONES !!! Gracias por la enseñanza !!!
Cool model, simple and natural
Great video explaining on how to use ND filters & HSS. Other than saving on the life of your batteries. Are there any other advantages on one over the other? Explaining the use of the TCM button a plus as well.
This was one of the best instructional videos I've seen -- probably because it relates closer to the photos I take.
Thanks for the kind words Vince 👍
This was an excellent and informative video. I also liked the setting for the photo shoot and the model's costume. Seeing those was also educational. Gavin's enthusiasm is always fun and inspirational. I really appreciate Adorama sponsoring such great videos.
Love your work and teachings, as always, Gavin. Thank you so much!!
I am from Brazil and i was looking for a video to take this doubt to me, it came at the right time this video, thank you so much ...
Mesma coisa comigo.
You are an Awesome Teacher indeed!!
Your video was so go. I never had the thought of using ND filters with flash. Thanks I have more knowledge now. Keep it up.
Nice video. Thank you for your explanation of HSS.
Awesome video and tips as always from Gavin. Funny/weird thought...I never been at a lonely cabin on the woods alone with another person holding a Axe. Beautiful pictures thou. 😉
Thanks! Learned a bit more...
Timely video for me and, as always, great educational content. Thank you Adorama and Gavin!
Expertly demonstrated! Thanks!
Love your videos. I always learn so much, that I realize I need to watch all your videos. Anyway, will ND filters work as well as HSS for action type sports portraits. The ones where I’ve seen HSS used to create dramatic portraits.
This was a master class. Exactly the info i needed.
Great work Gavin , i have been watching your videos for many years , keep it going many thanks.
Brilliant video. It is very useful to contrast two procedures with similar goals and very different work flow. Thanks for doing this.
Very nice B roll makes this an easy to follow educational video. I'd love a follow up discussing ND color cast, editing, and gelling the flash based on time of day.
Enjoyed this. Liked the section where you took photo using ttl setting and then pressed tcm button, which put in a manual setting for strobe strength. Do you have any other tutorials about the use of ttl and manual on the remote?
Here you go Joseph ruclips.net/video/iqtfVvIIbmc/видео.html
That was very informative never would’ve thought of dealing with light like that. Awesome thank you so much.
Excellent tut! There are many on HSS but this is better because it contrasts HSS with ND. (And Jade is just too cute!!)
If you are still there? Great video, but on the very last shoot you didn't use TTL and then transfer readings with TCM function. Any reason why not?
You make it so easy to understand. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you ,I didn't now how its works outsite. I learn so much from you
Very detailed! Thank you!
Nice location! So glad to watch your video and to see you are well .
Great video, what metering were you using?
Always great stuff Gavin!
Thanks Robbie 👍
Just perfect, thank you for sharing!
Great info. Great shots. Really makes me want to get a flash set up and take shots like these.
Bang on, as usual, Gav!
Great video Mr. Gavin Hoey its great to see side by side what one can get with either ND Filters Or High Sync Speed! Thanks ADORAMA for having this great and informative videos on your channel.
I wish you would have tested the ND filters that fit over the sensor. I'm curious as to how the camera focuses with one of those vs. the on lens filter.
This is awesome. Although a blown out background can be a stylistic choice, I liked seeing ideas of how to tame a very bright and often unpleasant background. You presented it in a very simple and understandable way! I've used off camera flash but fairly recently figured out how to set up for HSS on my EOS R. I was confused after watching the display blink at 1/200 and why I couldn't increase the shutter speed, and then the light bulb went on after some research. :) I'm looking forward to our session this weekend, which unfortunately had to be at 9AM, will be more successful when employing these tips for shots where we may have a very bright background. Thank you Gavin!
Brilliant stuff as always Gavin. Both sets of images looked great 😊😊
Thanks Paul 👍
Great comparison video!!
Great work. Informative video. Thanks!
Thank you, Gvin and Jade! These comparisons are very clear, and your photos, as always, look very nice indeed. Take care!
Thanks for the kind words Mike 👍
Excellent comparison. Top work, Gavin, 👍
Good job Gav, good to be out and about i bet.:)
Thank you, Gavin for another great video. You make things easy to understand.
Gavin tutorials are so helpful. Thanks Man!
Always helpful! Thanks so much for doing these Adorama and Mr. Hoey. Appreciate the social distancing as well!
Thanks Frank. Hopefully in 10 years time this video will have comments from the next generation of photographers asking what was "social distancing" 🤞
4:05 ... Not really a bad shot as is, drop them highlights, lower contrast a bit, a tiny tiny bit of saturation and it would make a nice light and airy natural lit photo. Awesome shots man! I'm not a filter type guy but you workin them suckers man. Love the videos ALL of them! FYI, that wasn't no luck, that's experience, sometimes we simply question ourselves but typically nail the shot lol. Love it that way. You simply know how to look with your eyes and can pretty much pinpoint where your settings go without no durn light meter.
Thank you thank you thank you! Very precise!
Thank you Gavin as always. Always good material
Great video as always Gavin. Absolutely master.
Good comparision - Also a consideration is that HSS eats the batteries up very quickly compared to normal flash and ND filters.
Very helpful video. Especially for entry-level camera users where hss is not applicable. Will try, thanks a lot
Great Video as always Gavin👍🏼. The TCM option on the trigger is new to me though. I use Godox and Canon mirrorless. Is there any such option with this setup?
Nice to see Gavin shoot outside the small home studio
Great, compressed learning. Awesome job.
Excelente lección entre flash y filtros de densidad neutra. Greetings from México City.
great video Gavin
Thanks for showing new idea
Great results from both the ND filters and HSS. If a small reduction in contrast is the only difference you can see, then that would suggest that you are using insanely expensive ND filters. For many years, Ive been using Hoya ND filters which are considered quite good in terms of quality but obviously not top of the range or super expensive. Generally, Ive been very happy with them for slow shutter speeds of rushing water and for video work. Though recently, I tried something Ive never done before. I photographed the same scene with and without a Hoya 3 stop ND filter. And I was quite alarmed by the differences. The photos taken without the filter came out so much nicer and the ones with the filter had a weird, unpleasant look about them. Previously, I was strongly considering using ND filters for outdoor portraits with flash (being on a small budget) but now I'm not so sure after seeing my own comparison photos.
You never fail to teach me something new or that I hadn’t considered, thank you for another wonderfully entertaining and informative video 🙏👍
Thanks Garry, glad I've been of help 👍
Great video, straight to the point and with nice visual examples!
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Nice Job on N.D. filters vs controlled flash. Ed Ortman
Thank you so much for another great video. Do you think that the ND approach would be a better way, if the backdrop is the ocean (sunset)? Thank you.
Thank you Gavin. Perfect timing. I want to upgrade my entry level DSLR which can't do HSS but funds are a bit tight ATM. I'm definately going to try the filters at the first opportunity. Thanks for another great video.
Go for it! The ND filter route works perfectly, just make sure you order the size to fit your largest lens and stepping rings for the rest 😉
Beautifully explained. Thank you
Got another alternative aside from HSS. Thank you Gavin and Adorama!