Tri-Fuel Portable Generator Post Hurricane PASS or FAIL !!!
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- In this video, I go over my review of the WGEN 11500TFc portable generator, during the 26 hour outage during Hurricane Beryl.
30 hour outage, using only natural gas.
I have study generators for a long time I finally decided to purchase one for my house I live in Louisiana my purchase was a generac 20kw diesel generator(money well spent thank you lord for blessing me with the money to purchase) that replaced my portable gas one that I use for years the only reason I purchased diesel was because a storm that went through Louisiana a couple of years ago people with natural gas gen sets had issues with low gas pressure and they were burning appliances, up my gen set turns a 1800 RPM's and has 95 gallon tank I have spare diesel on hand 58 gallons and my truck is diesel 36 gallons I have plenty of diesel for a long run but do have my portable on standby if needed, God bless you guys in Texas we in Louisiana are praying for your fast recovery
You are so so correct, one has to examine their location and situation. Yea, if I had the space, diesel generators are the true work horses, that I would switch to. Thank you, we were one of the blessed ones, where we were only without power that is it. Many out there not as lucky.
What'd you have to pay for it, if you dont mind me asking. I've been looking at military stuff, second hand.
Does diesel fuel not go bad when its sitting around? 95 Gallon tank of gas seems like it would go bad after a while, I have no idea if diesel goes bad the same way as normal gas
@@socksonfeet8125 I have to treat the fuel a diesel fuel additive and in some places they have a company come out and test the fuel but the treatment I use is doing what I need it to do
@@fat_biscuits3928 for generator it is double the price of a regular home standby I paid $16,500.00 for it kind of steep but the longevity is worth it slow turning and the long intervals of maintenance makes it worthwhile for me.
It’s good to know some people were prepared and willing to share information and advice 😊
Yeah I try to be prepared, and if I can help someone, while I am at it, why not.
Nice video. I too just survived Beryl in Houston area 40 hours w/o power. I have the 12500tfc westinghouse, I hooked mine up to natural gas, back fed it into electric panel and have soft start on 2 ton a/c. I used 3/4 hose ran 60 feet from natural gas meter to gen in back yard. Sure loved how it worked.
I am still here without power I have a Wgen9500df I unfortunately do not have natural gas
@@markelizondo7463 Well looks like you a have a DIY project to convert it to run on nat gas as well. You can p/u a kit for the conversion.
@gilbosdiy my neighborhood does not have natural gas at all we are all electric
@@markelizondo7463 It runs on propane or gas also. Plenty of options.
@@gilbosdiy mine is tri fuel
I just got the Westinghouse 12500w dual-fuel generator. Haven't had a chance to set it up yet, but glad to see so many people happy with the Westinghouse.
I have one also. Happy with it. Recently used it for 4 days we were without power in NE Ohio after a vicious storm took down many power lines. Trees and utility poles.
I have the same generator and is performing very good running all my house and my 3 ton ac unit with natural gas. Very nice equipment 💪🏻👏🏻
Thanks for watching, pretty sturdy so far, on a good test with this hurricane. Also not too heavy either. hope you get your power back soon!!!!!
How long did you run it for? Here in some areas in spring are still without power :(
What is the in rush amperage on your compressor unit? I recently ordered an Micro-Air Soft start unit for my AC. 74 in rush amperage.
Back in February of 2021 we all experienced the ice storm that caused major power outages in the southern parts of the USA.My welder/Generator Miller 500D puts out 24KW of power was used for powering our whole house for 248hrs or 10+ days! The welder never stop once we hooked it up by turning off main 200amp breaker and turning on 50amp breaker back feeding the main breaker panel with everything online like we never lost power. We wash clothes like normal, heated our home, no lost of frozen food or anything. The diesel fuel that was use for every 1hr of constant power during the whole time period was a half a gallon of diesel fuel! It has a 25 gallon tank to run about 48hrs before filling up which we did by fuel cans that we filled up by our 500gal diesel storage tank.! A diesel power generator is the way to go with powering a home during a power outage if in a rural area!the advantage of farm diesel is a cheap fuel to power your home for long power outages like we all experienced and with hurricane season on it's peak and other storms and outages it better to be prepared even if it is a small generator is better then nothing. Fossil fuels are not ready to be phased out or taken away do to going green has proved not ready for prime time during multiple events after the ice storm we all face. Stay cool during summer seasons and Stay warm during winter season and stay safe when using generators and help your neighbors, friends, and family as they will help you!
So for everyone who has a natural gas generator one way to check to see if your genie is getting starved is turn on your gas stove one burner at a time, check the flame, if it goes down it is starved, if none of them are really on you have a major problem. Now run the genie on a full load and repeat the test.
I purchased a 6600 Westinghouse only Gas Generator after the Freeze in Houston and it was the best investment ever. I ran 1 fridge,i small windown unit, two fans, wifi and work computer on it, no issues. Westinghouse is the way to go, next project may be the setup you have on this vid, thanks!
Thanks , glad you found it useful. Make you checkout my WGEN 12000DF series. It has the my conversion to nat gas, as well as shed build.
Here is the link:
ruclips.net/p/PLO-Dg9zks7ZTeT6XwslVtwZgWNvOtW43Y&si=r3JHs_GFHZqFENAT
Thanks for watching, make sure to hit the like and subscribe button. I'm gonna do a shed 2.0 update video in the near future.
@@gilbosdiy for sure I want to do the nat gas setup
Glad you were prepared and made it out ok. Thanks for the video!!
Yeah, it's one of those things, one hopes never to have to use. In this day and age, seems more like a norm. Thanks for watching.
Spot on with the oil dumps and break in. Soooo many people just put oil and run until 25 hours or much more. Gotta get all the glitter out
Yea oil, is cheap. Surprising how many people, just runs it til it doesn't start. Then complain, it's junk.
Same thing with a new vehicle, I see SO MANY people driving brand new vehicles and changing out their factory oil at 6-7k miles. OUCH !!!
@@DanMar5858 You the old saying, "different strokes, for different folks"
@@DanMar5858 At least a car has an oil filter. These generators just recirculate the glitter.
@@JetFire9 Yea you correct, it's one of those things I wish generator makers should make as standard feature across all their generators. Tri-fuel, and oil filters.
I've got both Anker Solix F3800 with 1 extra battery & Westinghouse Wgen9500DF.
Westinghouse handled Central AC with an easy start, no problem.
While the Anker handled the rest of the house at night, during the day I was able to charge it with the Westinghouse.
I bought the latest eg4 chargeverter to provide clean power, for future use but arrived a day before hurricane & I didn't need it.
I have 3 x 100lb propane bottles which I only used 1 during the hurricane Beryl.
I have 100ft 6awg extension to put the Westinghouse as far from the house as possible & secured to the fence post in the back yard.
The Anker provided 1.5 hrs of use on full charge pushing 5000watts(3500watts was AC alone)
Westinghouse provided 24hrs total time on a 100lb propane bottle.
Westinghouse is the way to go, price & efficiency but I like having the option of running essentials quietly at night & do maintenance on the Westinghouse hence the Anker.
Zero, issues during the hurricane with my set up.
Very nice, it's all about options. So a couple questions for you.
On the Anker solix, when not needed, does it stay charged at full capacity for several months?
How and where does the eg4 chargeverter come into for your setup or anyone elses setup?
@@gilbosdiy Anker holds 100% charge for months, while not in use. If remember right, manuel states to fully charge once a month while not in use but I haven't needed to.
EG4 chargeverter, here's a link on RUclips from EG4. ruclips.net/video/trow2kCHgR8/видео.htmlsi=BgfZgR2IxED6EeMj
I am happy that you and your family had power and were safe.
Thank you, yea crazy times. One just has to be prepared best they can. you never know what a hurricane can do. Hence why so many people got caught off guard, thinking the weatherman just crying wolf.
The only difference between past hurricanes and Beryl is social media.
Hey thanks for watching, have you tried changing out the Torch spark plug for a NGK iridium plug??
Wrong, they didn't have all the out of town linemen crews waiting around for a service ticket to fix something. Centerpoint completely mismanaged this event.
I'm just glad we mostly just got wind and not extensive flooding. I just got my power back today around noon, so 1 week and 6+ hours with no power other than my little Honda EU2000i that wasn't running to well until I disassembled and cleaned the carb.
@modsquad8u Did you go through Hurricane Ike? The average household didn't get service for two weeks. My family didn't see service for 4 weeks. Every disaster has its challenges and failures. People are too fragile nowadays. And it's magnified by social media. Center point should be held accountable but not for their response, but for their lack of preparation and prevention to the inevitable hurricane.
@@Dednursewakin I did, that's when I bought my little Honda. I think even if you get a big generator, you should also get a small inverter dual fuel. Some storms we are also without fuel for a long period of time. I also went thru Alicia, that one SUCKED. I was about in 5th grade and my dad had me out in our flooded yard picking up all the branches, chopping stuff with a machete. All the fire ants were floating around in big blobs and the strays would climb on me and sting me. Very bad memories. I've been in the Houston area since 78. I forget the storm, maybe it was Roda...but back in the mid-ish 90's when I was still in Texas Army National Guard we got activated and helped people that were flooded in their homes get to safety with out deuce and a half and 5 ton trucks as well as our mess hall folks setup aid stations. Which ever one flooded Tomball really bad.
@modsquad8u That is what I'm talking about. People have short memories. People think this is something new. It is not.
As for your hose issue, you can probably get a 90 degree elbow in there where you are reducing the diameter to allow you to close your door. Great setup! Definitely an inspiration and gave me some ideas for mine. I bought land up around Madisonville and will be building up there and plan to have a mix of gen and solar for backup. I'm looking into some mini-split ACs that are hybrid and run direct off solar and the grid as needed (solar with good light, grid at night unless you also get batteries). I'll have a large propane tank. If I still owned my previous home, I would have did something similar to what you did since it is a gas home. Thanks for sharing, and hopefully you won't need it again soon!
Yep, I thought of the elbow as soon as I posted the video.
Man since you are gonna be building on land. If it were me, I'd go with a couple 1000 gal tanks, but that's me talking out loud. Man how would you handle the tornados and straight line winds, with the panels?
Mini split are great, since they are basically inverter style built in units. That doesn't draw as much amperage. I didn't know they have them as a hybrid now, that's another plus.
Yea let's hope not, oil been changed and gennie is put away in the garage.
Thanks for watching.
@@gilbosdiy I will consult people from my company as well as engineers on mounting panels in that area. I'll probably orient my building so they can just live on the roof, but I also need to talk to the steel building company to see what they say about the added weight. I'll get a building that's certified for the wind rating up there.
I was also thinking of dual tanks, but it will just be me. I'm also going to try to build to passive standards, although I probably won't get the plaque, lol. But I do plan to build a very efficient home. Double stud walls with no thermal bridging and the wall cavity filled with blown in insulation. I'll probably build small and build a couple different buildings. I want my office separate so it's an easy tax write-off.
@@modsquad8u make sure you check mineral wool ( Rockwool) for insulation.
That has been used a lot lately in a builds. Getting very good reviews. Both for exterior and interior walls as well as overhead.
Would be great if the gas stations bought one of these generators!
LOL, that would be too easy. t-rex arm, short arms, long pocket.
It’s a good genny but the main thing is you installed it well and maintained it carefully in use. That’s the big difference.
Yea, since this is one of those things that either get you as close to normal during an outage. All things have to thought out, not just , "it will work" and thrown together. That's why I hope people will use these videos and actually learn from it, and not just skim through video. So that they can get through an massive outage .
Thanks for watching
Glad it worked out for you! I have the 9500DF version. Was able to run on propane but not gas. We were without power for one week. Propane only lasted 12 hours. Been a week since I put a ticket in Westinghouse. Haven’t heard anything.
When you say gas, are you referring to gasoline or natural gas?
If you were referring to natural gas. Where did you T-off the gas line at. Did you T-off at the meter or off a gas grill or some other part??
@@gilbosdiy Sorry, gasoline.
@@yungskeeme Probably stuck needle valve solenoid on the bottom of the carburetor bowl.
Could be trash in the bowl, from the factory, if this generator is new.
How old is the generator?
@@gilbosdiy I opened up the carb to clean it and it wasn’t dirty. It was a refurb from Westinghouse. Had less then 10 hours of run time. My solenoid has a dent in it. Ordered a new carb to see if that will help.
I built the same setup 4 years ago. Work great without any issues. I then installed a soft start on my home AC 3 weeks ago. After hurricane Beryl My generator ran great for a day and a half. After that it overheated because the extra load was generating so much heat that the fan I had could not exhaust the heat fast enough. Lesson learned I have to buy a new generator and set it up outside the storage unit when in use to have proper ventilation. Also only use generator to run the whole house AC for a short period of time. Generators are not designed to kick on and off a whole house AC with a slow start every 20 minutes when it reaches temp inside the house. Going with an inverter generator and using a midsize window unit for the next storm.
What size fan are you running??
After I posted the shed video for the WGen 12000DF,way back when.
I shook the two marbles between my ears. I did some figuring. I felt my fan and vent wasn't enough.
I ended up changing my fan from a 14" to a 20".
For the intake I added a second vent.
Live outside of Houston and the power was off 8 hrs during Beryle. Used a Duramax 12,000 tri fuel generator (run on LP). Had 2 refrigerators and 2 freezers (15cf/20cf), 2.5 ton ac and 3 ton ac with no soft starter. I could only run the 2.5 ac unit and it struggled to run it without tweaking. I will be getting soft starters in the not too distant future.
Yes with a soft start, on a 2.5 ton, I think as a guess, that should bring down to around 25-28 starting amp (obviously it will vary) and for the 3 ton probably drop it down to around 30-33 amps, as a guess as well. Of course the running amp is way way lower. That will give you an idea of how much room you have left.
Thanks for watching.
@@gilbosdiyany reason why you were hesitant to not test it on your new unit? You mentioned warranty reasons but why? I also just had a new unit installed
@@vimcowboy Just for the 1st year labor warranty by the installers of the a/c units.
I used the same one for the hurricane it worked great powered my 2.5 ton AC( with soft start) and fridge and multiple lights and TV’s. No issues what so ever. Definitely a good purchase.
Thanks for watching. Did you runs your just on natural gas as well?
@@gilbosdiy I used gasoline this time around next time I will set it up for natural gas.
@@Ls3Atomicvette Yes going to nat gas, allows you to sleep easier.
I have the same generator but the 10500TFC. I’m going through beryl to. I have it connected through my electrical panel and running gasoline. It runs my whole house and AC unit. I get about 15 hours of run time on gasoline. Running’s three days strong. A solid generator. But I definitely need to get it connected to the natural gas line.
Hope you guys were ok , other than no power.
Yea, my days of using gasoline during an outage are gone. One less hassle, I'll gladly give up some wattage, for not having to worry about fuel.
Only time I use gasoline, is when I run it to test the generator, during off months.
I've been trying to find this model for weeks. It's sold out everywhere. It's the only Westinghouse single-cylinder generator with less than 5% THD without going to a dual cylinder or an inverter.
Thanks for watching, just make sure you check the usual sites multiple times a day. That's how I was able grab one.
What’s the downside of a dual cylinder? Is the upside only higher power output?
I’m glad you did this video, I too have the 1” AB3 hose and was wondering if it would cause any issues on the smaller generators. I made it thru Beryl using same generator as your other one but on gasoline, that beast uses approx 1gal per hour on 2400sf home with single 5 ton unit.
@@AdamFeldman42 more expensive and heavier. Upside - probably runs smoother, has more output, is more bullet-proof, and is longer lasting.
@@AdamFeldman42 Think of it this way, the WGEN 11500 is like a Honda Civic inline 4 cylinder and the WGEN 12000 DF is like a Honda Accord V6. The WGEN 11500 will have to work harder than the WGEN 12000 DF.
mine's still running right now, I have it running whole house except the hot water heater and dryer. It's been great. I did have to install the softstart on my 4t ac to run it. With ac on I'm getting just about 12hrs per tank on gas. The first night since it was cooler after the storm I didn't run ac and that tank lasted over 15hrs with partial ac usage.
Very nice, very nice. Let's hope you get power back pretty soon. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for posting your experience in run time. I have the same gen and wondered what real world run times would be. In Louisiana so haven't had to use it yet, but I'm sure our turn is coming!
We are still without power using my 14 yo gennie I bought after Ike. That little 5kw gennie runs just about everything you mentioned.. But this one storm has me wanting a larger gennie to run the AC. I just finally did my third oil change a day ago... LOL.. I'm thinking about the 16kw inverter they make...
Hope you have your power back now. Having bigger gennie, is nice, just incase you need that extra wattage. I use my wattage to help my neighbor out so they can keep there fridge running. Once again, it boils down to having the right fuel source, in time of need, no matter the wattage. Thanks for watching.
Kind of left me with more questions than answers. Please post a video the next time we have a region wide outage with this running your whole house including ac
I have a buddy that uses that generator in a food truck and it runs like a champ. His truck runs a lot of electric appliances including a split AC. Not the quickest, but it does the job well.
Yes, this generator held it own, for sure. Thanks for watching
Great info. Surprised about all the oil changes. I ran mine 3 days before oil changes.
Also if you need gasoline Costco has their stations active with built in generator, backup generator on standby, and 2 tanker trucks. I refueled there 3x per day and it took less then 5 mins in line to pump.
#HoustonStrong
Yea, you would be surprised the amount of glitter in the oil of a new generator engine. Hence the break-in. After 3rd oil change or so, then I go to the 25 hr usage for oil change. Now that I think about, I should have filmed the oil changes, so people to see.
Thanks for watching.
Quick question, I have the 10500 tri fuel but cant seem to get it started on NG. Do you have a regulator on the gas line?
Generally it takes 3-4 attempts to purge the air of the line. That's with a T-off the gas meter at 25 feet. You setup situation could be a lot different than mine, (i.e. further in distance, T-off down the line vs at the meter, etc...)
Since my gas meter is already set a 7" WC (.25 psi) with a regulator from the gas company on my gas meter. I do not need additional regulator. Now if my meter was a bigger meter and set at 2 psi from the gas company then yes, I would need a regulator to lower the gas pressure down to the 6"-8" WC level.
Hope this helps, if you have anymore question(s), just ask, and I'll try and help. Please don't forget to hit the like and subscribe button.
As of right now I’m going on day 6 without power, it’s the Sunday after and I’m still running my house on my 12500 dual fuel Westinghouse. What I’m doing is I’m filling up my gas tank with gasoline and running it off of propane then switching over to gas when I need to take a bottle of propane to fill it up, that way I constantly have power to my house, before I switch over I’ll let it rest for about 10 minutes, I’ll check the oil, and just check if all is good then crank it back up. I have a 1600sq’ house 3ton AC, 2 refrigerators, and I’ve had no issues running any of this the whole time. I get about 12.5hrs of run time when on gas all the topped off and about 5 hrs it seems like on a normal bottle of propane. In the future when all this is over with I’ll be buying me a 100lb bottle of propane to use to supply my generator. These generators are a BEAST.
Man, I hope you power back soon, today or tomorrow. Man, make sure you stay on top of oil changes. Your generator is working overtime. Tak care of it, so it can continue to take care of you.
A little suggestion for you on the propane, I'd go with a 30 lb or 40 lb tanks. Reason being, with A 100 lb. tank holds 23.6 gallons and weighs 170 lbs when full. Transporting it, gets to be a task. Especially if the wife has to move or what not. For example a 30 lb tank holds 7 gallons of propane and weighs 55 lbs full. The 40 lb propane tank holds 9.4 gallons of propane and weighs 72 lbs full. At 55 lbs and 72 lbs that makes it lot more manageable to move.
Thanks for watching, stay safe.
@@gilbosdiy thanks a lot man ya I hope I get it back, I’m in Angleton so we got hit pretty hard. The generator is definitely working overtime. I really appreciate this thing so much and so does my family, luckily when Alberto formed way out from the beginning, I went ahead and peace milled the whole setup to run it to the house. My uncle is an electrician so we basically got it hooked up from beginning to the end for about $1500 and I had it installed literally 3 days before Beryl hit. Talk about hanging on by a thread lol.
@@tino5621 Very smart, very smart. I see so many people no where close to being prepared it is unreal. Even some of my family members, I have had my WGEN 12000 DF setup since Uri. That's why I posted the Westinghouse series videos. Told them to them to do the same and get gennie, setup for this very reason. NOPE, no one listened. NOW they are doing it.
Dude, Great video and thanks for suggesting ab3power and reminding me about Seafoam! Had fun with Beryl here in Katy. Acquired a Firman 3500 by happenstance at an Academy the Wednesday after Beryl hit. AB3 appear to have exactly what I want in a generator (power, portability, and price(y)- it is Honda engine or course). Might as well subscribe.
Good quick review, NO BULLSHIT grandiose “oh look at me, I bought something” junk, Thanx!!!
No, problem, I make my videos as a way to help the fellow man out to help them save a little money. Whether it is a generator video, or car repair video. Thanks for watching.
Went 6 DAYS without power north of Houston. Our WGen12000DF ran our entire all-electric house the whole time. Went thru over 150 gallons of gas and a couole oil and filter changes.
Sourcing gas was a bit of an issue early on. Had to drive 90 miles on day 3 to find it but we have no choice here for NG or LNG propane (which would have costed FAR more than gasoline.)
WOW, that is a lot of gas. But in the grand scheme of things not too too bad, around $75 bucks a day (assuming $3.00 a gal). Yea, the wife ask which gennie I was gonna hook up the 12000DF or the 11500TFC. I said 11500TFC to give it try, she responds, " are you sure", because she knows the 12000DF is a beast, and doesn't flinch with our nat gas hook up.
Glad you have your power back and you guys are safe. Make sure to change that oil and drain that gasoline, before putting it away. Super early still for this hurricane season. Thanks for watching.
I change oil every 4 days on my generator, just to be safe and I have a new extra carb also
You should also have, spare AVR and brushes. As those tend go out as well. . Thanks for watching.
96 hours WAY too long for a oil change.
Install a 45 degree elbow for your natural gas whip to connect to.
Yep, that was my plan. it came to mind after I already posted the video. Thanks for watching.
I installed a MB Sturgis Propane Elbow Adapter at the generator 3/8" POL fitting. It is a 3/8" Female Flare Swivel x 3/8" Male Flare (Item # 204163) that I purchased from etrailer..
This generator also will let you run two weeks if you need to in the middle of winter so if anybody is looking for a generator this generator and the Duramax fuel generators work amazing in -40° weather and snow that is 36 inches a day
Hello, I bought one as soon as I received it, I opened it and put it together. I haven't turned it on yet, but what I noticed is that the fuel shift knob is hard. I have to connect something to make it spin because it's too hard or I do that...or it would go wrong...you didn't have that problem
Good k mine is heading my way. I used a 2200 watt Westinghouse, have had it for a few years. It pushed my tv, fan, window unit just fine. Ran on about 9 hours each tank of gas.
Good deal, with the WGEN 11500 , if you have it hooked up to your breaker panel. it will make life alot simpler. Also if you decide to run it in natural gas. That will take another burden off you.
@@gilbosdiy oh yea. Bout had enough of all these outages. This is ridiculous, gonna make me a little gen shed just keep it out there.
@@tealnexttimebond8859 Here you go, hope this help guide you in the right direction. Here is the link:
ruclips.net/video/sM3oCmMXL28/видео.html
I used a Champion inverter generator. I had to use gasoline because my electrical service is on one side of the house and the natural gas is on the other side of the house.
Mine too. Sucks
I have same one and ran it for about 8 hours. Turned it off and then it didn’t want to turn on again. Was using the 1/2 inch hose that it came with. Haven’t gotten it checked since beryl. Unit was brand new.
Does it work on gasoline???
did you check the oil label
baby hurricane! 27hrs? ur lucky. 6 days for me!!!!
Man sorry to hear. Hopefully you get power today or tomorrow. Hopefully you and your family are safe. Thanks for watching
I have the same unit and hooked up to my nat gas with the supplied hose. It shutoff on nat gas after 2 days of running continuous. I had to switch to gas for 18 hours. Ran on nat for the following 2 days and shutdown again this morning. Back on gas currently. I haven't changed my oil other than after break in hours. You have me wanting to change my oil now after 6+ days of continuous operation. Checked my oil yesterday looked good. I'm running my 3 ton AC with Select rooms and breakers on. Going to install an easy start on my AC soon to really smooth out operation
Wow, that is very surprising, did you T-off form the gas meter or did you use like a BBQ grill gas tap. Sounds like the generator is starving for fuel. I just think the supplied nat gas hose is too small especially 1/2". I would bet, if you get a line with a 1" ID that is T off the gas meter, and not down the line that will solve that problem (a long as the distance is super long).
Yes, might wanna change that oil, because you will see that the oil in that gennie, will have a lot of glitter in it.
Thanks for watching, hope you get power back today or tomorrow. Stay safe.
@gilbosdiy I installed a 1" tee after my meter with a full port shutoff valve and male threaded nipple to match the FNPT end of the supplied hose. I thought since they supplied that hose,it was designed for it. From what I can tell, the generator starved itself out when my AC kicked on. My suspicion is that many residents using nat gas for their generator could've caused a low pressure/flow situation. It ran 48 hours, no issues, and then another 48hrs.
I just ordered the micro-air easy start. It looks pretty simple to install. This should be recommended for any AC running on generator power as my lights would dim when the AC cycled.
Overall, I'm happy with the WGen11500TFC performance. Changing the oil tomorrow for sure. Seems like many Houstonians are no longer relying on centerpoint to get us back up in a short time frame.
@@brogers114able Are you have issues with say your water heater or stove? I bought my 1" ID hose , locally At AB3 power.
@@gilbosdiy water heater/stove worked fine.
@@brogers114able Yea, hence why I used my 1" ID hose. The key with nat gas flow, is the volume available. So if there is drop in pressure, there still more volume available in a bigger diameter hose, vs a smaller.
Thank you for your carbon footprint
Micro air easy starter will help with your AC units...four days with no power from Hurricane Beryl in my neighborhood but not me...have a Duromax 13000 trifuel with the micro air easy starter on my 4 ton unit..we were comfortable
How do like the your Duromax, and did you run it using natural gas only or gasoline?
Cat 1. My ass. 90 gust ? Steady 35/45 For 13 hrs. We got hammered !! North East Harris co
So by your own admission, Beryl should be a tropical storm. Have to have steady winds of 74mph or stronger to be considered a hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson scale.
You would need a micro air soft start for the a/c. Then it should.
Thanks for watching
Great video..i just purchased one
Thanks for watching, good emergency choice.
Can I see your exhaust set up I have same generator wanna see what you used to adapt from muffler to out the shed. Thanks
I'll try and do a video, if I get a chance this weekend.
Thank you for video I’m surprised you had internet we still have none in clear lake
Yea, we had it, then it went out mid morning on Monday. When the power came back on in my area, the internet came back up.
Hope you guys made it through ok.
I am seriously thinking about ordering a Starlink Mini for $600. The cool part about Starlink Mini is that you can just buy the unit and not pay for the monthly service until your need it, and that service is only $50 for 50GB, which is more than enough to get through a week long internet outage. We run a business out of the house, so we need internet for work and play. The Starlink Mini can be plugged in with ethernet into my home router so the whole house would have pretty fast and low latency internet access.
Just got mine today, same brand and model
Add a MicroAir Easy Start to your AC and run the whole house.
Yep, I have a micro air soft start, just didn't hook them back up yet. I had them on my old units. Since I literally just got new HVAC systems a few months, ago. Thanks for watching.
2 questions. What model do you recommend for the whole house a/c?
This device can be used also on a/c Windows 12k BTU?
@@carlosgraphic For your home a/c, the new model is called EasyStar Flex Home AC Soft Starter ( any tonnage up to 6 tons)
Yes, I believe they also have a unit that works for window units as well. You would have to contact Micro air for the exact unit.
I live in Houston and just purchased mine ~4 weeks ago. Wow, am I glad I did. I also purchased a soft start for my 4ton unit at the same time. Hooked up to NG and powered my entire house (2800 sq/ft).
I have a DuroMax 13k tri-fuel being delivered today or tomorrow so that I’m able to rotate them out should we need - and I’m sure we will.
Since the Westinghouse is 1/2 quick connect, I will see if the DuroMax can run using the same. It comes standard with 3/4 connections. Otherwise I will need to upgrade the Westinghouse or revise my NG meter.
Thanks for posting!
@@TheDnlnext Yea, I wish they would have kept it 3/4" quick connect, like the WGEN 12000DF. You know it simply boils down to profit. Supplying 1/2" gas hose, is a lot cheaper than a 3/4" hose. Which means more money in their pockets.
Thanks for watching.
Thank you brother much appreciated! Liked and subbed!
I have a smaller unit I bought back during Ike. Can't run the AC (a killer) but at least keep the fridge, freezer, a few fans, TV, and some lights on. Just quickly in my head adding up your load, it has to be a gas clothes dryer, right? I live in an all electric house so going beyond the basics is tough for me. Electric water heater, electric clothes dryer, 3 Ton AC, electric furnace, really adds up quickly. I need about 22-24KW just to run everything. If I go this route a permanent house unit is the better option. But wait, all electric house means I have to run the generator of gas, diesel, or propane. It gets' pretty unmanageable really quickly. So for now, I'll just keep my portable unit and resolve myself to a space heater for heat, a window unit for AC, fans, TV's and then turn all of those off to heat up the water heater or run the clothes drier. Everyone's dream of a hands of auto-switching full coverage system are not really practical unless you have a lot of $$$. I can't really justify $15K for a system to be used 4-5 times over the course of 30 years.
Yes, I have a natural gas dryer.
Since, you are all electric, that changes everything. As far as the a/c goes, take a look at a window unit. They make those as inverter style window units now, drawing very low amperage. Think some as low as 6 amps. That is similar to a lot of fridges.
You are correct, cost of a standby units ($15K - $20K)are simply through the roof. That is for me I went with this route. Thanks for watching
Could you please settle an issue on the oil for me? I called Westinghouse and they said you screw the dipstick in all the way, but only fill it up until it’s midway between the L and the H. I noticed in your video the little label on the frame shows the oil practically pouring out and that of course means it’s overfilled. The woman I spoke to at Westinghouse said even though it says it takes 1.2 L it really doesn’t.
There’s just really no clarity on it. I don’t mean to make an issue out of somethings so obvious but oil is important! Westinghouse seemed confused. What’s your method?
One last question? Did you have to bleed the natural gas hose or does the unit do it itself.
Thank you
Regards
Frank from Kingwood Texas
The oil capacity is about 1qt, NOT 1.2 qt.
For the natural gas hose, it will take several attempted starts to get purge the air out of the hose, before the generator will start.
Hope this helps. thanks for watching
@@gilbosdiy Perfect. Thank you👍🏻
Waiting for this gen to come back in stock. Really worried about the oil change every 25 hours, though? Is that a normal requirement for similar generators??
I mean you should be stopping the generator every 8-10 ours anyways to check the oil levels. No biggie for me to take an extra 15 minutes to change out the oil. It's just a quart to maybe 1.5 quarts once a day, during an outage. Not like I am changing out for 365 days. Oil is cheap, last thing I want to do is dump out 2 fridges of food, because a generator fails. No Thanks!!!
Did you measure the temps inside the shed to see what it was peaking at?
You know, I have never measured the temp inside the shed. When I run my generator I run it with the lid partially open, about 3" or so. So with the fan and lid open, temp is not an issue for me.
The generator has never shutdown due to temp.
what are you using to protect TV , cell phones & Computers from being damaged, I've read that i people should get an Invertor generator, but they very expensive ?
Generally if you get a generator that has a THD
How much did you pay for the plug and switch in your breaker box? Plus the natural gas setup Thinking about getting the same set up. I live in Houston.
Are you referring to the inlet box (GE 50 amp twist lock inlet model# T050N). If so, when I bought I think it was like $100.00. Then I paid an electrician to connect it to the breaker panel with an interlock kit. I believe that was $300.
Then I had a plumber T-off the gas meter, that was like $250-$300, I believe.
That was a few years ago. Probably more now.
interesting you used a 1" supply line. Is your gas line into your house from meter a 1" or 3/4"? I thought most of these Gens come with a 3/4" hose.
Yes, the supply line from the meter into my house is 1" ID. Well I know the 12000DF is 3/4" for the Garretson regulator, on the 11500, that regulator is 1/2". Heck on my FIL Firman generator that we got for him at Costco that regulator for natural gas is 3/8".
6 days without power from beryl. We went out and bought this same generator after beryl
Very nice, yea the different stores had the WGEN 11500 TFc back in stock yesterday.
Didn’t hurt any electronics in the house ?
5 days without power for me in the Spring area.
I've already ordered this exact generator. I went thru the same situation last year this month, when a wind storm knocked out power for 5 days as well.
I'm tired of this bullshit. Every time the wind blows, we lose power for a week in sweltering humidity and heat.
Oh wow, sorry to hear that. As a suggestion, if you plan on going the natural gas route. Get the ball rolling on the gas meter T -off connection , gas hose, power cord, 50 amp inlet box. There is already a huge rush for these items. Been telling my relatives. Thanks for watching, hopefully you get power today or tomorrow.
What about using a 90 degree adapter on the natural gas connection so you can close the shed doors?
Yep, thought of it as soon as I posted this video.
Is your exhaust heat wrapped as well under the flexible tube?
I will be wrapping the flexible exhaust, with heat wrap.
To answer your earlier question, the flexible exhaust, is just pushed up against the exhaust of the generator. Nothing fancy, It didn't vibrate away. If anything, you might use some wire to wrap the flexible exhaust, and hook it to the exhaust cage.That will ensure it will not move away from the generator exhaust.
I use my WGEN 12000 DF during outages. I used the WGEN 11500 TFC was just a test.
My flexible exhaust sits more sealed on my WGEN 12000 DF, because the hole on exhaust cage for the WGEN 12000 DF is bigger, than the WGEN 11500 TFC
Where did you get your natural gas hose at? Thanks in advance I rode out the hurricane here in Alvin Tx
I bought my hose from AB3 power.
Here is the link:
ab3power.com/gas-hoses/
I have a similar setup. Worked in 2016 and 2017 when lights were out 7 days each time. I’m curious how you connected your exhaust hose out of the shed!
Here's the video link to the shed build (1.0), made a couple modifications since that video (2nd vent, bigger fan)
ruclips.net/video/sM3oCmMXL28/видео.htmlsi=pYHdu8-lzd1AVMUi
Thanks for watching, hope this helps, if you have anymore question(s) just ask away.
What kind of transfer panel do you use? A lot say for generators with 8,500 watts or less. But these are almost 1.5 that from 10-15k. I know all of it is not used at the same time or if ever.
I use an interlock kit on my main breaker panel, with an 50 amp inlet box.
ruclips.net/video/IwDrfrduukE/видео.html
Thanks for watching
I live in Houston and was wondering (on natural gas) if this 11500 generator would power a 3 ton central air unit with a fridge and a few lights?
Or would you recommend their bigger 14500 unit?
Great review, thank you.
Ask and shall receive. You can decide.
Here is the link:
ruclips.net/video/M4XiM7k_oDI/видео.html
Thanks for watching, hope this helps. Make to hit the like and subscribe button.
Why using a 1" hose instead of a 1/2"? Does this affect the power output at all or just wanted a sturdier hose?
I use a 1" ID hose to ensure there is enough volume of natural gas for the generator. What can happen, is if there is not enough volume is natural gas for the generator, you are basically starving the generator of fuel.
Since the pressure supplied by the gas company, is different from area to area. That also comes into play. That is why it is important to know what the WC (water column) is for your gas meter.
Also best to T-off from the gas meter for your generator, versus tapping in downstream after other natural gas appliances. Teeing off at the gas meter, allows for highest flow to generator.
Hope this help, if you have anymore question (s) just ask, and I'll try and help if I can. Make sure to hit the like and subscribe button. Thanks for watching.
@@gilbosdiyis a 1/4# regulator enough?
@@gearfan4438 Yes, the 7" WC (.25 PSI) regulator on the gas meter, with a 30 foot 1" ID hose worked fine. No issues inside or out with the natural gas usage. Then again it is summer, so natural gas usage, is low.
I would love to buy that genereator, but I have looked everywhere and it says it out of stock, as if West was not building it anymore. The part that I like is that theharmonics are below 5% which is close to the 3% we get from the electric provider.
They are still building this, just a good wattage generator, that suits a lot of people. Just make sure you check the usual sites several times a day. Thanks for watching.
All generators right after a hurricane are in high demand, wait a month or two and visit a local pawn shop for a gently used one for half the price.
What’s the price to has that hose compatible for the natural gas on your home.
I picked it from AB3 power. They have different length to suit your needs.
Here is the link to the site:
ab3power.com/gas-hoses/
Is the 20-25 hour oil change Westinghouse’s recommendation or is that just your preference? My GP6500 Generac is break in at 20 hours and a change every 100 hours after. If I’m on the road working, I don’t want my wife to worry about doing an oil change every day. I was seriously considering this unit, but the constant oil changes may make me go a different direction.
Westinghouse suggest 25 hour after break in. Which I have no problem with, take 10-15 min and oil is cheap. If you are in a climate, that is not extremely hot, then its fine for the Generac. The manual for Generac GP6500 states in "extremely hot climate change more often". Then again what is, "more often". For me that statement of , "change more often"sounds like if you want to warranty a bad engine and you changed it every 75 hours, and it failed on you in the Texas heat. They might say, well you didn't change it enough since it is extremely hot there.
Did you build the box yourself? Great build, would love some advice!
Thanks for watching, I made a video of the shed awhile back. Here is the link to that video, as well as the entire 12 part series:
Shed conversion:
ruclips.net/video/sM3oCmMXL28/видео.html
Westinghouse 12 part series:
ruclips.net/p/PLO-Dg9zks7ZTeT6XwslVtwZgWNvOtW43Y&si=xv9iPS8_GE7Zkall
Hope this helps, if you have anymore question(s) just ask. Don't forget to hit the like and subscribe buttons. So you can stay informed of my updates.
26 hours? I’m at 71 hours and counting without power
I had power throughout the hurricane. Four 450 watt solar panels and two 100ah LiFePo4 batteries.
Man sorry to hear that. Hopefully you get it back soon.
@@lawrencedavidson6195 Curious what are you able to run with that setup?
@@gilbosdiy Lights, fans, washing machine, laptop/surround sound music system, blender and fridge. (No a/c tho.) I live in Montego Bay Jamaica. I added a third 100ah battery yesterday so now system is not as stressed.
@@gilbosdiy Oh, and i built it all myself, it's silent and needs no fuel.
Have you noticed any issues with THD? Still can’t believe this is below 5% without being an inverter. I haven’t seen any evidence online of one hooked up to an oscilloscope.
I did not have any issues, during this outage.
Thanks for sharing!
Can this unit handle a 5 ton AC?
Currently without power. Running on a 3500 watt generator. Definitely upgrading to a similar setup ASAP. Between Mays dericho and Beryl. I have been without power almost 4 weeks.
Man sorry to hear, that , let's hope it comes back on today, or tomorrow. Yea having a tri fuel gennie with very decent natural gas level is key. Thanks for watching, stay safe.
Question, I’ve been wanting to build one similar. But I’m worried about the CO sensor how did that work out for you? Thank you
I had no issue, if you have enough air flow. You should be fine. I will do doing an updated shed video, in the near future. The video will have the changes I made, since the original shed video I made. Make sure you hit the subscribe button. Thanks for watching.
New ro generators. Pretty bummed you’re supposed to change oil so frequently
Is this safe to run your TV and pc? I have surge protectors on all my high end electronics.
I had no issues
Ha ha a lot of places were open for fuel the issue was that so many people didn’t prepare it was chaos at the pumps so glad I had 20 gallons and two cars full of fuel I used my duromax xp13000eh it’s not tri fuel but it worked out well….
Lucky! Day 8 over here and still no power. They said maybe by Friday, 7/19.
Sorry to hear that, hopefully you have a gennie. Hopefully map is wrong and you get power back today or tomorrow. Stay safe. Thanks for watching.
Put a hard 90 on that gas connection so you can close the door.
Yep, thought of it as soon as I posted this video.
Would this be able to run both a 4 ton and 2 ton A/C unit with a soft start kit installed on each? 2 ton LRA is 56 @ 230 volts, 4 ton LRA is 124 @ 230 volts. Thank you for the video!
NO way, 50 amps is still just 50 amps. That's the most you can hookup to your breaker panel. If you have anymore question(s) just ask and I'll try and help. Thanks for watching. Make sure to hit the subscribe button.
soft start on the 2 ton should do it... no way on the 4 ton
Does it give you a read out as you turn things on so you know what you’re using?
No, it does not.
there are some videos on DROK multimeters to look up - I built a small box with 2 DROKs for ~$50. Gives you immediate usage (amps, volts, kWh, Watts) on both of your AC legs. Very easy to build and install next to your main panel (I have a manual interlock). I also installed a cheap hour meter on the box too.
Did you have concerns on the aluminum windings vs the copper windings on the duromax? I’ve been going back and forth between the two and can’t decide…
ALL copper is always preferred, but many are copper clad aluminum. So it is a in between all copper and aluminum. Westinghouse is a copper clad aluminum.
If you have anymore question(s), just ask.
Thanks for watching.
@@gilbosdiy do you think the compromise for copper clad aluminum is worth the price difference in your opinion? Or would you do all copper if you were to do it again?
Try using the app and have it do a relearn.
How far away is your shed to your home? Which insulation did you use?
Probably 10'-12' from the nearest window. I used mineral wool insulation(2" thick if I remember correctly). On the right half of the shed( maybe even the entire shed, can't remember), I also used 1/2" cement board between shed and mineral wool. That helps add more rigidity to the shed to attach the exhaust fan (20" 3368 CFM ). The mineral wool has super high fire rating.
@@gilbosdiy any chance you could find exact insulation I can’t find any that size only 3.5inches thick
@@taylorcampbell985 You can purchase it on amazon or Grainger
I have the same generator but only gas version. What should I do once I'm done and want to store the generator? Can I leave the oil in there and just let it run dry to deplete the gas?
Siphon the gas out of of the tank, and drain the fuel, from the carburetor bowl.
@@gilbosdiy - better than siphoning... remove the gas line from the gas valve and drain it completely from there. Also allows to you to blow out any residual gas from carb using low pressure air from compressor and removing the fuel bolt from the carburetor. I do this on mine and it starts on first pull every time. Don't even test start it but every 6-8 months.
You could’ve put a 90° brass fitting in
Yes, that came to my mind as soon as I posted this video. Since I wasn't expected to make this video so soon after receiving it (1 week). Didn't have time to get all the ducks in a row. Thanks for watching.
what did you use for the generator enclosure?
The shed, I made awhile back. There are a couple changes, I made to the shed after I posted the video. The changes are listed in the description below the shed video.
Here is the link to the shed video:
ruclips.net/video/sM3oCmMXL28/видео.htmlsi=SceNbnhf6Kt3zDjX
Do you have a video on building your generator shed? If not, are you willing to make one? I've been saving up egg cartons to baffle noise in one that I'll eventually build.
Yes , I do, it is not only about baffling the noise, that's 2nd, 1st priority of the shed build is fire protection using the mineral wool.
Here is the link to the video:
ruclips.net/video/sM3oCmMXL28/видео.htmlsi=4D36Gh9VD0e_G5Gv
I did make a couple modifications to my shed after I had put the video up. I should probably do an updated video, but the changes I made was I added a 2nd vent, and larger exhaust fan.
Hope this helps. Thanks for watching
Damn that’s alot of oil changes. I do my changes every 100 hours
Yea, that's because, I did the break in with. I generally go with the 24hr run rule. I could be crazy. I see it as cheap insurance.
What size gas meter you have is it pushing psi or oz
Just the standard 250 cf/h, 7"wc (1/4 psi), on 25 feet gas hose.
Can you make a video on the enclosure you made for this generator? Would help a lot.
I already have one. Here is the link:
ruclips.net/video/sM3oCmMXL28/видео.htmlsi=7H1npaicHPdfmOtU
Only changes that I made, since that original video, was I added a 2nd air vent, and I went with a bigger exhaust fan. All the details are in the description below that video.
Hope it helps, thanks for watching, don't forget to hit the like and subscribe button so you can get updates on future videos.
Bro i just got my light back on these cat 1 hurricane glad I had a generator on standby
Awesome very nice. Enjoy enjoy!!!
The power is back on already?
Must be nice measuring the outage in hours 😂 I’m going on day 7. Estimated fix is day 10
Sorry to hear that. Hope that you and your family had no other issues, other than the lack of power.
If you cant run the AC, its not worth it. Put a soft start on your AC unit and you should be OK. I live in Spring/Woodlands and wont be without a generator again. This is the exact one i want.
I hope you and your family are safe. Hopefully you have power.
I used soft starts on my old units, just didn't get around to hooking them back up on the new units yet. Since, I just got new a/c units a couple months ago.
Just make sure to check the usual websites (HD, Lowe's, EGD, Walmart) a couple times a day. They pop up, and are snatched up quick.
Thanks for watching.
@gilbosdiy your generator shed is awesome! That's something I want to build. Did you plans from somewhere or did you do it on your own?
@@ryansheard8092 Yea, I did it myself. If you haven't seen my 12 part video series, on my WGEN 12000 DF. Check it out. The series of video goes size comparison, natural gas needs, etc... Think the shed is part 7 or 8. I did make a slight change to shed (shed 2.0), that's not shown in the video. That is, I added a 2nd vent and larger fan. I should probably do an updated video (2.0).
Here's the link:
ruclips.net/p/PLO-Dg9zks7ZTeT6XwslVtwZgWNvOtW43Y&si=_I_YGe35iFITQY0X
What happened to your WGEN12000DF? It seems you changed out to a smaller unit after that series on the 12000? Any reason - I am thinking about getting the WGEN12000DF and doing a similar setup.
I still have the WGEN 12000DF, that beast still my go to. Needed the 11500 TFC for something else, so sorta of backup if I ever need it. Just so happen, a hurricane fell into my lap to test out 11500 TFC, and it passed.
Thanks for watching, don't forget to hit the like and subscribe button, to stay posted.
@@gilbosdiyJust subscribed! I am also dealing with Beryl. Currently running a pulsar PG 12000 (peak wattage - rated is 10k on gasoline) on nat gas. It’s barely getting me by. It will run my 3 ton AC but it’s really been struggling. I monitor output with my Emporia Vue. It can produce 3kw reliably but starts dropping frequency around 4kw and can even suddenly drop below 50 hz. So I can’t really trust it. Time for a two cylinder
@@JosephReuss-d2l You do have a micro air soft start on your a/c, I assume right?
No I don't, it still gets them going surprisingly! It even ran my 4 ton. Obviously can't run both at the same time. It would take too long to describe the issues I'm having with it, but I want to get wgen12000 because I would like to be able to run 5-6kw more or less continuously. During an outage. I do have a soft start in order for my 4 ton and will probably get one for my small one
@@JosephReuss-d2l Just remember 50amp is still just 50 amp, regardless if the generator is 15000 watts or 18000 watts. In order to achieve say close to 18000 watts, it would entail you using the other outlets to get to that number.
The benefit is allows you to shed load off the breaker panel (ie run the garage fridge on extension cord vs breaker panel) Thus freeing up 7-9 amps.
What kind of gas hose did you use
I bought my hose from AB3 power.
Here is the link:
ab3power.com/gas-hoses/