Flipaclip is actually pretty good and easy to get into! I’ve been learning ToonBoom and After Effects recently, but flipaclip is easily the simpler one
Honestly, I think whichever one you learn second will be the hardest one to get into since you get really accustomed to the first interface. I started learning animation with ToonBoom and now that I'm trying to learn Animate, it seems way too complicated and weird and, based on other comments, it's the same for them or vice versa.
@InklingTV Adobe used to be like this. Think they got tired of people pirating it because it was so damn expensive so they switched to the newer subscription.
@@tonystreet226 The subscription model is like leasing a car vs owning. Cheaper in the short run but much much more expensive for the customer in the long run. Just do the math- renting forever vs owning outright. The subscription model makes Adobe MASSIVE amounts more money in the long run. Plus some of their software like Photoshop and AE was so solid, mature, and stable (Flash notwithstanding, of course), that even pro users were fairly happy with older versions and felt very little need to keep buying the newest versions for relatively small improvements, other than the need to use the latest simply so you can remain compatible with the bigger studios you work with. I think Adobe were having a harder and harder time convincing veteran users why they really need to buy newer version of something that already can do everything you want. But ultimately its about making more money and Adobe is a company after all...
@@edith2821 it isn't a cash grab What happened is until flash cc adobe allowed you to buy the program once and never pay again but loads of people used it to illegally download the program
I actually found Toom Boom harmony way easier to learn as a beginner than Adobe animate :P I actually still don't even know how to use animate properly xD
true for me too...I don't know how but the node view in premium was incredibly easier for me and in less than three weeks I could create characters from head to toe. it takes longer but is logical
I hope so, because I was having the most difficult time wrapping my head on how to properly rig characters in Toon Boom Animate with the node view. Mainly with masking and keeping the outline for 'jointed' areas by routing elements to different places. I was so comfortable with how basic and simple it was to rig characters in Toon Boom Studio that adjusting to the node routing matrix became somewhat overwhelming and sophisticated in comparison. I've always preferred Toon Boom software for animation over Flash due to all the functions/features that TB flexes that totally streamline the process, and this is coming from an avid Adobe Photoshop CC user! I just got my hands on Harmony Premium so I'm going to slowly begin learning the program basics...
thank you for being SOOO CHILL about advertising your content in the end of the vid, I actually wanna check it out because you're not being a jerk about it.
I believe the software doesn't matter it your doing it as a hobby/beginners. I've never really debated on a software, but I think why certain programs are better for professional animators is two reasons. 1) Dead-lines. People need to work fast and efficiently, since you have to work with what you have you must work around and other ways to things which may take much longer than could have been in anther program with the tools. 2) Animation is collaborative. You need to work with others so having a program that most people use you can collaborate easier. The professional requires your A game on time and you don't have the luxury to take you time to do the extra times it takes to look professional on a non-professional program. It's you're career not something just for fun. You wouldn't tell a professional dentist to use their some random pliers to pull your teeth out. You'd what to be using the best equipment for their craft to job done smoothly.
You don't. You can start with simple vector shapes and create them with a mouse only. You can apply all fundamentals of animation to these basic shapes to practice with, which you should. Until you master the fundamentals everything else is more of a distraction.
TVPaint is all about how good you are as an artist..there's no rigging, compositing, camera, etc. All you get is a few pencil tools, eraser options, and a canvas with a few options. So if you're into fully traditional, frame by frame animation, TVPaint would be the best option.
agree with you, TVpaint the best tool that simulates drawing graphite pencil. classic animators confirm )) and rigging2D animation 95% looks like crap and boring (as for me) and I dont understand how was made The Princess and the Frog by using Harmony? ..would like to see the working process ... but Disney keeps its secrets btw. TVpaint not bad camera in stock and some FX tools. ..but the price! ... not funny :\
Sergiy Golovin listen up all yall losers, tvpaint is not your fancy pancy software filled with stupid fancy tools, because tools don't matter it's all about the artist Tvpaint offers a water color system, so you can also make stunning paintings in it aswell you can also rig a character but that's not why tvpaint is made, it's all about that traditional animation but made easier and sufficient
In my understanding, first of all i am an animator, and i am a flash animator, i started learning toonboom few months ago, i found it very interesting software, but some of the features i didnt like there because the way of using them are more complicated than in animate cc, like ''drawing subtitution'', is not better than '' keyframe caddy'' in animate cc, i think animate cc or flash got them well, in term of special effects, i think adobe is protecting his others products like after effect, adobe cannot put all the special effects into animate cc other wise people are not gonna use after effects anymore, so it's a balance, i saw toon boom harmony now got genarts saphire plug ins, which after effect and adobe premiere use, so toonboom got only one big product and its putting more effort on it, compare to adobe. Some years ago premiere pro has features of creating dvd menus, and people were not using encore dvd anymore, until adobe removed that feature from premiere pro and left it only in encore dvd, adobe want people to use its softwares, it's business, they cannot put all the features into one software i think we will end up doing everything into one specific software.
Thank you for a realistic explanation of the difference between the two approaches / companies and not just a personal preference reference! This makes sense and now I understand that I'm not sacrificing anything sticking with Adobe. Toon Boom is so expensive rn and I already fork out a truck load of cash for Adobe every year.
Toon boom animation was used for mostly cartoons from CN, like steven universe, also Family Guy, South Park, Rick and Morty, The Simpsons, etc. No wondee its so expensive, its one of the most greatest softwares for animation and storyboarding
Aaaah, THIS video just made me figure out a GOOD way to do my 2D animation... Im an avid Adobe person with creative cloud, the new 2017 iPad Pro 12.9, and several macs... I've been wondering how I could get my drawings from the ipad to my mac for animation. I didnt even THINK about using After Effects with Adobe Animate!! When you showed how others do it, the LIGHT went on in my mind and I said out loud, "OMG THATS IT!!" hahaha ANyhow... thanks so much for this video!! #totally #SUBSCRIBED!
In my opinion the animate/after effects combo is massively powerful and flexible enough for almost any type of 2d animation. It’s served me well for years. And it’s very unlikely you would need any other type of application for any type of 2d animation. Animate does crash sometimes though. It’s done this in every version. (I have been using it since flash 5 and using latest version now) So bare that in mind. Auto saves should stop this being a problem though, and it’s just a mild annoyance at this point. The main strength of animate is its incredibly easy to use. This helps speed up creating, drawing and animation. I don’t know anyone that can produce an animatic from first concept to timed and roughed out animation quicker than myself using animate. (And I have hired hundreds of animators and illustrators over the years.... not to say I’m the best, just saying I’m super efficient when using animate. )
My true passion is voice overs. So I invested in Moho Pro 12. I just came here to see what the competition is like. So far I'm very glad with my decision.
@@johngiftakis9878 I have it for my laptop which is a Toshiba. I just really need to invest in maximizing the ram I think. It has worked decently well considering I'm utilizing the basic features of my laptop.
if they haven't done so already its about time Toon Boom hire a bunch of developers to make sure future versions output for the web in the best way possible
What I like the most about Harmony, are the advanced rigging tools, the deformers are really useful, and the bitmap painting tools are easier to use than in Flash. The only problem is that is too expensive.
I want to get into animation, kinda like a hobby more than anything, and I'm not sure just what software to use. Since I'm not planning on making anything extremely professional or anything, I'm not sure if I should Animate OR Harmony. Also, I need a good, cheap tablet to start out with
he said that people used after effects for compositing but Toon Boom comes with the compositing features, at least Premium does, he never said that any of them were better than any of them
he didn't say that SPECIFICALLY but if you have watched the video and not just droning, it's obvious that Toon Boom has many many many more features than Flash. And based on my experience with AE, I can then deduct that AE > Toon Boom (from what he described about Toon Boom). You need to know how to read between the lines kiddo.
You have no idea. Well. Maybe your IQ is too low? And the fact that you replied to my comment obviously betrays that you DO care. From this video, Toon Boom > Flash. Get that into yer head. Mmkay?
?? Why are you saying my IQ is too low? What gives you that idea? I just am saying I did not understand your logic and so I still replied back because you might've thought I got scared or something, also before you said after effects is better than toon boom and now you're saying toon boom is better than flash, make up your mind, lol. BTW I know toon boom is better than flash as you previously mentioned that Toon Boom has more features for 2D Animations then flash, however, what I'm saying is that it depends what you want to use it for, if you want to make web animations than you can use flash, if you want to make 2d cartoon animations Toon boom can be useful.
So I’m thinking about becoming an animator someday and I’m just wondering which software is best for beginners? Animate or ToonBoom harmony essentials?
i have a great story but lack of animation skills and also even if i want to make a video it need to be real graphical video so what should i do now.......?
I don't understand why Adobe doesn't care or advertise that so many cartoons are made with flash. The only reason Toonboom is the face of animation is because they constantly put their name next to anything animation related and adobe is no where to be seen.
If you factor in the tools of the entire Adobe suite, like Photoshop, after effects, premiere pro then it makes flash / adobe animate more powerful. (If you are a student you can get the entire adobe suite for 19$ a month) After Effects has the ability to do 3D stage setup. I have tried Harmony before but maybe because I started on Flash its hard to get into Harmony. The plugins for flash / animate make it alot better as well. They even have auto lip sync plugins......... Also Adobe has this thing called Adobe Character animator where you can create puppets and control them with your webcam and it auto syncs the lips and movements ect. You can rig a Xbox controller and do key commands as well... control them like a puppeteer in real time.
Already in the process of buying components to build a new workstation. My Flash animation teacher and my Art Director friend both said I should start learning Harmony. Not to animate, but for character rigging. Plus, it could help my YT channel out to for video editing.
One of my friends doesnt do animation with a program. They just paint every frame in SAI then stitch it together in windows movie maker. Sooo any yall who want to get into animation. You dont need fancy animation software. However this may be sorta the harder way to animate they do it pretty well.
Personally I recommend you start with Flash, then once you get the very basics, move onto Opentoonz and stay with that up until you want to become a proffesional and only then move onto Toon Boom Harmony
Adobe Animate is so frustrating I can't even finish an animation without some accident happening. It's really hard to get used to, I literally need to find every solution on the internet instead of figuring it out myself... because it's literally impossible to do it on your own.
I have been using Flash for over 20 years, I started with Macromedia. Videos that compared Flash and Toon Boom and always showed that Toon Boom is better. This suggests that the Tооn Boom developers see the Flash as a competitor. I do complex animation with Flash, but here in Tооn Boom, good animation, only classic frame by frame.
yeah i was like "all those features ARE already in moho??" but..i guess some do now work really well like the triangulated meshes,those distort horribly the pngs parts
Yougi G But the permanent license prices are totally not even worth it. Frankly, you'd have to be an absolute MORON to buy *just* a program for $1,975, or even $375.
Yeah, I have Creative Cloud and use Flash Pro, but I get annoyed at the brush tool because it keeps using snapping even when I turn it off, and it keeps crashing. So I looked at this, after seeing that the MLP movie was using it for, and that pricing is RIDICULOUS! I have never seen a program that expensive!
Magic_Zach Or you have be a professional or studio that will earn more money than the license price using it's features. They are the ones supposed to buy it in the first place. While you call them morons, they are earing more money with the investment. Moreover, any other commercial software for digital art is as expansive as this.
+Leilani Vaughan-Williams The brush in Flash Pro was probably what prompted Adobe to rebrand as Animate. It was unusable for everyone and Animate fixed it. Harmony is meant for professional productions, which is why it costs so much. It's a much better program.
Hm, but I do like using Flash for my MLP animations :3 It's very useful then because there's MLP flash puppets all over the internet for download. And it's also okay if I draw the frames in SAI then put them in Flash
Use Wick Editor. It's *easy* to use _( super ),_ you can make *games* with it, and you can *animate.* Absolutely free! I think it's too good to be free.
When it comes to Animation, toonboom has an edge. Although it is also achievable in Animate CC but with extra effort.. Toonboom was design for animation and Animate CC design for many purpose..
CptHuggyFace if you are a student you can get storyboard 5.5 which is the latest version from studies for like $65. you don't necessarily need storyboard pro, unless you want to take advantage of the "toonboom" pipeline, storyboard-animatics-animation. what seperate harmony from all the rest imo are the deformers though... they are indeed magical
Urgggg! THEIR BOTH GOOD!! Although I'm literary practically a beginner to animating so I think Flash would work better for me. Plus there animation is pretty good
Animate cc in terms of affordability, you get all of animate with no paying extra for a better version,and it comes with other adobe programs like photoshop and after effects cost the same as buyingToon boom.
I have Adobe animate and it's not easy to use And to tell you the truth I rather have to one time payment then the monthly payment I only use animate for the mlp puppets that I downloaded off deviart
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All these ppl with expensive AF softwares .. And then there's me
= "hi I use flipaclip"
Same.
I used to do that! I moved to Animate CC very recently!
Flipaclip is actually pretty good and easy to get into! I’ve been learning ToonBoom and After Effects recently, but flipaclip is easily the simpler one
Same
I use stick nodes ;-;
Paint+movie maker>>>>>>>>>all
f a c t s
I started with MSpaint and Movie Maker. But moved on to Flash/Animate.
True Story
Bro dont forget pivot stickfigure animator
Hahahaa
Cost? *Laughs in pirate*
Phollo Animation Can't pirate a CC subscription
Dillon Orr its possible.
You would be correct, it's just significantly more difficult and very few have figured it out.
Dillon Orr rip I have adobe cc for free 😂👏
Baby Zorra WHAT HOW?!
Honestly, I think whichever one you learn second will be the hardest one to get into since you get really accustomed to the first interface. I started learning animation with ToonBoom and now that I'm trying to learn Animate, it seems way too complicated and weird and, based on other comments, it's the same for them or vice versa.
"Unlike Animate's subscription based payment, Harmony has a permanent license option-"
*SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!*
I know, right?
@InklingTV Adobe used to be like this. Think they got tired of people pirating it because it was so damn expensive so they switched to the newer subscription.
@@tonystreet226 The subscription model is like leasing a car vs owning. Cheaper in the short run but much much more expensive for the customer in the long run. Just do the math- renting forever vs owning outright. The subscription model makes Adobe MASSIVE amounts more money in the long run. Plus some of their software like Photoshop and AE was so solid, mature, and stable (Flash notwithstanding, of course), that even pro users were fairly happy with older versions and felt very little need to keep buying the newest versions for relatively small improvements, other than the need to use the latest simply so you can remain compatible with the bigger studios you work with. I think Adobe were having a harder and harder time convincing veteran users why they really need to buy newer version of something that already can do everything you want. But ultimately its about making more money and Adobe is a company after all...
@@edith2821 it isn't a cash grab
What happened is until flash cc adobe allowed you to buy the program once and never pay again but loads of people used it to illegally download the program
Thanks now I will stick with blender
ArtaZ Exactly what I was thinking.. Been using & having productive results with the grease pencil..
Thanh Lâm Văn For me the grease pencil is ridiculously confusing -.-
youre right
i cant even make a figure with it
The grease pencil got a new update and it will get a very big update next year.
Here in 2018, yeah probably grease pencil is good enough
I actually found Toom Boom harmony way easier to learn as a beginner than Adobe animate :P
I actually still don't even know how to use animate properly xD
noob
Yeh for some reason toon boom is easier for me to lol
Flash doesnt have very effective way to actually draw it the best but drawing nah
NO WAY!! Teach me your ways!! Ive been using adobe animate for yearsss and Im trying to get into toon boom and I just cant do it 😭😭😭😭
Just saying, ToonBoom Harmony was way easier for me to get into than Adobe Animate.
true for me too...I don't know how but the node view in premium was incredibly easier for me and in less than three weeks I could create characters from head to toe. it takes longer but is logical
yeah.
Justus Nwaefido the node view makes life so much better.
I hate the coloring thing on adobe animate
I hope so, because I was having the most difficult time wrapping my head on how to properly rig characters in Toon Boom Animate with the node view. Mainly with masking and keeping the outline for 'jointed' areas by routing elements to different places. I was so comfortable with how basic and simple it was to rig characters in Toon Boom Studio that adjusting to the node routing matrix became somewhat overwhelming and sophisticated in comparison. I've always preferred Toon Boom software for animation over Flash due to all the functions/features that TB flexes that totally streamline the process, and this is coming from an avid Adobe Photoshop CC user! I just got my hands on Harmony Premium so I'm going to slowly begin learning the program basics...
thank you for being SOOO CHILL about advertising your content in the end of the vid, I actually wanna check it out because you're not being a jerk about it.
I believe the software doesn't matter it your doing it as a hobby/beginners. I've never really debated on a software, but I think why certain programs are better for professional animators is two reasons.
1) Dead-lines. People need to work fast and efficiently, since you have to work with what you have you must work around and other ways to things which may take much longer than could have been in anther program with the tools.
2) Animation is collaborative. You need to work with others so having a program that most people use you can collaborate easier.
The professional requires your A game on time and you don't have the luxury to take you time to do the extra times it takes to look professional on a non-professional program. It's you're career not something just for fun. You wouldn't tell a professional dentist to use their some random pliers to pull your teeth out. You'd what to be using the best equipment for their craft to job done smoothly.
first of all, I need a tablet.
EDIT: I got a tablet!! Intuos draw, the cheapest one if you were wondering.
You don't. You can start with simple vector shapes and create them with a mouse only. You can apply all fundamentals of animation to these basic shapes to practice with, which you should. Until you master the fundamentals everything else is more of a distraction.
pkeod, i have made a lot of animations with mouse, yes(see them on my channel). But to step up my game, I think a tablet will be useful.
Get the two Drawn to Life: 20 Golden Years of Disney Master volumes as a priority for your animation career. They are a master class at animation.
Flashoons wacom intuos pen is good, and also really cheap. (I use a pen & touch but i never use the touch thing so that isn't so necessary.)
YAAAY (Sorry I'm gonna get one on my birthday, which is March 20th) 😏😏😏 I guess I'm lucky. 🎁🎁🎂🎂🎀🎈🎈🎂🎁🎉🎊🎊🎇🎉🎊🎁🎂🎁🎀🎂
Any comparison to TVpaint?
Yes! I would like to know about it too.
TVPaint is all about how good you are as an artist..there's no rigging, compositing, camera, etc. All you get is a few pencil tools, eraser options, and a canvas with a few options. So if you're into fully traditional, frame by frame animation, TVPaint would be the best option.
agree with you, TVpaint the best tool that simulates drawing graphite pencil.
classic animators confirm ))
and rigging2D animation 95% looks like crap and boring (as for me)
and I dont understand how was made The Princess and the Frog by using Harmony? ..would like to see the working process ... but Disney keeps its secrets
btw. TVpaint not bad camera in stock and some FX tools. ..but the price! ... not funny :\
Sergiy Golovin listen up all yall losers, tvpaint is not your fancy pancy software filled with stupid fancy tools, because tools don't matter it's all about the artist
Tvpaint offers a water color system, so you can also make stunning paintings in it aswell
you can also rig a character but that's not why tvpaint is made, it's all about that traditional animation but made easier and sufficient
+Bhuvanesh Kodem Though it seems that TB now has bitmap drawing tools as well.
An animation company making a video about too other animation companies 😂 that's cool!
Riley and Finn's Gaming **two
In my understanding, first of all i am an animator, and i am a flash animator, i started learning toonboom few months ago, i found it very interesting software, but some of the features i didnt like there because the way of using them are more complicated than in animate cc, like ''drawing subtitution'', is not better than '' keyframe caddy'' in animate cc, i think animate cc or flash got them well, in term of special effects, i think adobe is protecting his others products like after effect, adobe cannot put all the special effects into animate cc other wise people are not gonna use after effects anymore, so it's a balance, i saw toon boom harmony now got genarts saphire plug ins, which after effect and adobe premiere use, so toonboom got only one big product and its putting more effort on it, compare to adobe. Some years ago premiere pro has features of creating dvd menus, and people were not using encore dvd anymore, until adobe removed that feature from premiere pro and left it only in encore dvd, adobe want people to use its softwares, it's business, they cannot put all the features into one software i think we will end up doing everything into one specific software.
Thank you for a realistic explanation of the difference between the two approaches / companies and not just a personal preference reference! This makes sense and now I understand that I'm not sacrificing anything sticking with Adobe. Toon Boom is so expensive rn and I already fork out a truck load of cash for Adobe every year.
Pls make a vid about "OpenToons"
Laissez - faire Try Blender...
Toon boom animation was used for mostly cartoons from CN, like steven universe, also Family Guy, South Park, Rick and Morty, The Simpsons, etc. No wondee its so expensive, its one of the most greatest softwares for animation and storyboarding
Your tutorials are fantastic. You really helped me understand toon boom but I need a lot of practice.
Aaaah, THIS video just made me figure out a GOOD way to do my 2D animation... Im an avid Adobe person with creative cloud, the new 2017 iPad Pro 12.9, and several macs... I've been wondering how I could get my drawings from the ipad to my mac for animation. I didnt even THINK about using After Effects with Adobe Animate!! When you showed how others do it, the LIGHT went on in my mind and I said out loud, "OMG THATS IT!!" hahaha ANyhow... thanks so much for this video!! #totally #SUBSCRIBED!
Jeremy, I don't mean to offend, but I bet it must be... a little hard to be around you for an extend period of time.
To Athánatos x2
Same for me when I learned of SPINE - Spine: 2D skeletal animation for games
Jeremy JMIAH Williamson I HAVE SAME IPAD AND MAC, AND I ALSO COULDN'T FIGURE IT OUT!
Jeremy JMIAH Williamson u apple fanboy
I tried the Essentials version of Harmony on my laptop (it was a free trial) but it crashed. So I use Animate CC. 😛
you know Flash/Animate is notorious for crashing a lot more than Toon Boom Harmony right
In my opinion the animate/after effects combo is massively powerful and flexible enough for almost any type of 2d animation.
It’s served me well for years.
And it’s very unlikely you would need any other type of application for any type of 2d animation.
Animate does crash sometimes though. It’s done this in every version. (I have been using it since flash 5 and using latest version now)
So bare that in mind. Auto saves should stop this being a problem though, and it’s just a mild annoyance at this point.
The main strength of animate is its incredibly easy to use. This helps speed up creating, drawing and animation.
I don’t know anyone that can produce an animatic from first concept to timed and roughed out animation quicker than myself using animate.
(And I have hired hundreds of animators and illustrators over the years.... not to say I’m the best, just saying I’m super efficient when using animate. )
Ha! I'm faster than you
WOW, that's a really Great Video. I like it A lot :)
Motorcity! I've worked on that car flying in shot! 😁 It was done in Maya, studio got the credit for the project though.
really u did the flying car shot???!!!
AriseGraphics I can assure you that he did.
I love the show!
Where is ms paint
you must be joking. seriously. *ms paint is not an animation software* photoshop and paint tool sai are more efficient.
Justin likes to draw damn its called sarcasm
Lights are green
r/wooosh
I still use MS Paint 😁
ms paint is dead
My true passion is voice overs. So I invested in Moho Pro 12. I just came here to see what the competition is like.
So far I'm very glad with my decision.
You have it in Mac version? Does it crashes a lot?
@@johngiftakis9878 I have it for my laptop which is a Toshiba. I just really need to invest in maximizing the ram I think. It has worked decently well considering I'm utilizing the basic features of my laptop.
@@a.y.f.s.1236 ok. I also sing 12.5 and I like it but it crashes quite often.
i was mad my surface pro wasnt working with Animate CC right, but then I discovered Toon Boom, and oh my god... its amazing.
if they haven't done so already its about time Toon Boom hire a bunch of developers to make sure future versions output for the web in the best way possible
I only use animate because of Alan Becker and it was free. I use 2020
Cool
What I like the most about Harmony, are the advanced rigging tools, the deformers are really useful, and the bitmap painting tools are easier to use than in Flash. The only problem is that is too expensive.
love that pic of the one Bancroft dude
I want to get into animation, kinda like a hobby more than anything, and I'm not sure just what software to use. Since I'm not planning on making anything extremely professional or anything, I'm not sure if I should Animate OR Harmony. Also, I need a good, cheap tablet to start out with
I already prefer Toon Boom over Adobe Animate. I just wanted to see what you’re thoughts were.
Ok, you’ve convinced me. I’m totally replacing Flash.
So apparently, Toon Boom > Animate.
But from this video, I can deduct that After Effects > Toon Boom.
Cheers!
he said that people used after effects for compositing but Toon Boom comes with the compositing features, at least Premium does, he never said that any of them were better than any of them
he didn't say that SPECIFICALLY but if you have watched the video and not just droning, it's obvious that Toon Boom has many many many more features than Flash. And based on my experience with AE, I can then deduct that AE > Toon Boom (from what he described about Toon Boom).
You need to know how to read between the lines kiddo.
I have no idea how your logic works but I don't really care, you choose whatever you want to choose and I'll choose whatever I want to choose
You have no idea. Well. Maybe your IQ is too low? And the fact that you replied to my comment obviously betrays that you DO care. From this video, Toon Boom > Flash. Get that into yer head. Mmkay?
?? Why are you saying my IQ is too low? What gives you that idea? I just am saying I did not understand your logic and so I still replied back because you might've thought I got scared or something, also before you said after effects is better than toon boom and now you're saying toon boom is better than flash, make up your mind, lol.
BTW I know toon boom is better than flash as you previously mentioned that Toon Boom has more features for 2D Animations then flash, however, what I'm saying is that it depends what you want to use it for, if you want to make web animations than you can use flash, if you want to make 2d cartoon animations Toon boom can be useful.
So I’m thinking about becoming an animator someday and I’m just wondering which software is best for beginners? Animate or ToonBoom harmony essentials?
krita -_- it's free
and very good at drawing
I know this is 3 years but adobe
Ms paint for life
Wow! Thanks! This really helped me. I am planning of being an animator when I get a little older.
i have a great story but lack of animation skills
and also even if i want to make a video it need to be real graphical video so what should i do now.......?
I can help ya
I can also help ya
i can try to help also
"lack of animation skills" lol just keep making short animations and before you know it you're already improving.
Practice practice practice practice endless practice....
basically, TF2 vs Overwatch
Team Fortress 2 sucks.
but i am comfortable in Adobe animate (CC)
I don't understand why Adobe doesn't care or advertise that so many cartoons are made with flash. The only reason Toonboom is the face of animation is because they constantly put their name next to anything animation related and adobe is no where to be seen.
disgusting adobe wants to end flash
The only reason I chose adobe animate is the interactive animation ability, I wish toon boom had this feature otherwise it’s a deal breaker.
nice and clear comparison!!
If you factor in the tools of the entire Adobe suite, like Photoshop, after effects, premiere pro then it makes flash / adobe animate more powerful. (If you are a student you can get the entire adobe suite for 19$ a month) After Effects has the ability to do 3D stage setup. I have tried Harmony before but maybe because I started on Flash its hard to get into Harmony. The plugins for flash / animate make it alot better as well. They even have auto lip sync plugins......... Also Adobe has this thing called Adobe Character animator where you can create puppets and control them with your webcam and it auto syncs the lips and movements ect. You can rig a Xbox controller and do key commands as well... control them like a puppeteer in real time.
Already in the process of buying components to build a new workstation. My Flash animation teacher and my Art Director friend both said I should start learning Harmony. Not to animate, but for character rigging. Plus, it could help my YT channel out to for video editing.
One of my friends doesnt do animation with a program. They just paint every frame in SAI then stitch it together in windows movie maker. Sooo any yall who want to get into animation. You dont need fancy animation software. However this may be sorta the harder way to animate they do it pretty well.
Personally I recommend you start with Flash, then once you get the very basics, move onto Opentoonz and stay with that up until you want to become a proffesional and only then move onto Toon Boom Harmony
I want to make simple animations for visual novels. Don't have anything advanced planned. So i want the one quickest to learn, which do you suggest?
Since I am not a fan of subscriptions, I am glad they implemented a permanent license for Harmony.
Adobe Animate is so frustrating I can't even finish an animation without some accident happening. It's really hard to get used to, I literally need to find every solution on the internet instead of figuring it out myself... because it's literally impossible to do it on your own.
IKR, every time im working on an animation in animate, the file always becomes corrupt. this is why i stick with macromedia flash 8
@@niffuM4205i still use flash cs3
@4:34 Blender Grease Pencil also has a 3D stage and the software is free.
I have been using Flash for over 20 years, I started with Macromedia. Videos that compared Flash and Toon Boom and always showed that Toon Boom is better. This suggests that the Tооn Boom developers see the Flash as a competitor. I do complex animation with Flash, but here in Tооn Boom, good animation, only classic frame by frame.
What about just regular Toon Boom vs. Adobe Animate?
bro where chalk up u been, it is so cool
Most of the cartoons I watch are made with adobe animate/adobe flash lol
Both can be easily pirated, so learn whichever is more comfortable to you.
Anime Studio (Moho) is to some people a better choice, surprised there wasn't even a mention of that in the video.
yeah i was like "all those features ARE already in moho??" but..i guess some do now work really well like the triangulated meshes,those distort horribly the pngs parts
soooo... in a long run Toonboom is the better investment and has better pricing system than animate
Yougi G But the permanent license prices are totally not even worth it. Frankly, you'd have to be an absolute MORON to buy *just* a program for $1,975, or even $375.
Yeah, I have Creative Cloud and use Flash Pro, but I get annoyed at the brush tool because it keeps using snapping even when I turn it off, and it keeps crashing. So I looked at this, after seeing that the MLP movie was using it for, and that pricing is RIDICULOUS! I have never seen a program that expensive!
Magic_Zach Or you have be a professional or studio that will earn more money than the license price using it's features. They are the ones supposed to buy it in the first place. While you call them morons, they are earing more money with the investment. Moreover, any other commercial software for digital art is as expansive as this.
+Leilani Vaughan-Williams The brush in Flash Pro was probably what prompted Adobe to rebrand as Animate. It was unusable for everyone and Animate fixed it.
Harmony is meant for professional productions, which is why it costs so much. It's a much better program.
Hm, but I do like using Flash for my MLP animations :3 It's very useful then because there's MLP flash puppets all over the internet for download. And it's also okay if I draw the frames in SAI then put them in Flash
Use Wick Editor. It's *easy* to use _( super ),_ you can make *games* with it, and you can *animate.* Absolutely free! I think it's too good to be free.
Omg, this video was made 3 year ago. The premium version of harmony hasn't already costed $73 but $118. And that's what we call an
inflation.
1:14"Toon Boom Harmony targeted at the professional animation market"
Family Guy on the upper left
It’s still professional though
A.M. Roulette still a professional setting and industry
Thanks
I have two video requests:
Toon Boom Harmony vs. OpenToonz
OpenToonz vs. Flash
Great review it’s so comprehensive
i love this channel .. cool videos
Yeah, word of warning. Harmony Permanent license isn't exactly permanent.
So Adobe Flash is back but is now as Adobe Animate
What do you think about Moho Pro 12 ? I know, I know, Animate an TBH are most used and industry standards but I only want to hear about Moho :)
Thank you! This video is very insightful
I've done a GIF with Animate! I just drew circles...
if i buy the cheapest license for harmony, can i later buy the more expensive ones for less or do i have to pay the whole thing
this was very informative. thanks for posting
Simple and helpful! Thanks
When it comes to Animation, toonboom has an edge. Although it is also achievable in Animate CC but with extra effort.. Toonboom was design for animation and Animate CC design for many purpose..
Sounds a lot like this was sponsored by toon boom.
i just want to point out that if you buy one version of harmony and decide you want to upgrade to another you only need to pay the difference
Hey that was super helpful. thanks!
Who is best?
Now my next question is do I need storyboard software?
CptHuggyFace if you have adobe photoshop you can easily make your storyboard in it
CptHuggyFace if you are a student you can get storyboard 5.5 which is the latest version from studies for like $65. you don't necessarily need storyboard pro, unless you want to take advantage of the "toonboom" pipeline, storyboard-animatics-animation. what seperate harmony from all the rest imo are the deformers though... they are indeed magical
my question is.
can you animate all stars?
Toon boom has it built in
What software would you recommend for making hentai?
Well lol if you are being serious, I'd say just get a few papers, a pencil, and an eraser, because that's how anime is made.
I wasn't being serious, but thank you for being a helpful Internet stranger! :D
PaintTool Sai
Get on it, brah
Bhuvanesh Kodem people mainly use a pc to make anime and hentai not pen and pencils anymore dumb ass
Ms paint and windows movie maker
Urgggg! THEIR BOTH GOOD!!
Although I'm literary practically a beginner to animating so I think Flash would work better for me. Plus there animation is pretty good
Well Harmony Is pretty lousy if u dont buy the premium, but flash is worth it
Ahhh. I thought this is Toon Boom vs Flash the fastest man alive
Ok how much does a mac book cost again?
Im new at animating and have no experience , but i have a school project, and i wanna do a racing car animation , what would you guys recommend?
Salamander GT 地獄 in the end, i used animate cc, and its amazing! You get used to it very fast!
I like my animation to have a traditional feel so I prefer harmony because of its bitmap capabilities.
Great Info !!
thank you so much :D
4:36 3d stage in 2d animation software. Okay, save it. toon boom by harmony.
Sooo should i get flash animation or toon boom
I have toon boom but sadly I don't how to use the features
So which is best toon boom or Adobe animate cc
Animate cc in terms of affordability, you get all of animate with no paying extra for a better version,and it comes with other adobe programs like photoshop and after effects cost the same as buyingToon boom.
thank you so much
Thank you for your video. As a beginner of 2D animation, I want to learn how to use Toon Boom. Do you have instruction video on Toon Boom?
I have Adobe animate and it's not easy to use
And to tell you the truth I rather have to one time payment then the monthly payment
I only use animate for the mlp puppets that I downloaded off deviart
try blender ITS SUPER GOOD
what cartoon is on 4 20
How about photoshop?
Thanks for this.
Yeah mate, hit me up with that flipaclip
What about Moho Pro 12? Which is the best animation software?
Nice, thank you for this information. 😉
now i am in a good mood
I have one month to animate an animation. What's better for quickly learning how it works?