Tocaraca One of the reasons was her up b, she had a lot of reach but it did not have a hitbox, so people could edge hog (just grabbing the ledge and staying there) her easily. And meta knight.
I had no idea thatvwas the case. I thought the move always dealt damage and knockback. But that was the same with Lucario and he wasn't low tier. What else made Zelda bad in Brawl?
ngl, this is straight up one of my favorite matches. I feel like both players are on such similar skill level, and both are playing such interesting characters that play off of each other well, that it just seriously makes it so much fun to watch. Besides, good to see more girls in smash.
Awesome! It's so nice to see another Zelda in the mist. I really love Cosmo's play of Zelda. Now he can help Zelda be noticed more in tourneys along with Nairo. Although Cosmo should've used more of Jab, Zelda's Jab is pretty decent. eXMeL was also a really good Robin. Since Robin is a character I use for fun I think it's nice seeing one as well. Both rare characters.
Wow, I'm sensing a "dejá vu" right now. 3 weeks ago I went to a regional tournament in my local scene (Smash PhD - São Paulo - Brazil) and I played Zelda and got to Loser's Finals on my bracket. I lost 2-1 to a Mario player and got 17th place. To see that I got the same results with the guy that pretty much inspired me to play Zelda and helped get me in Smash 4 competitive play (Cosmo), even if the skill cap may and probably is way higher, makes me really happy and determined to get better and better. XD
Love watching the less commonly used characters go at it. Makes for much more unpredictable matches. And seeing my main Zelda get a little spotlight is always exciting.
Finally a Robin in a tournament! Well, I LOVE it! I love Robin so much, pretty cool character if you ask me! And was really hyped seeing this! As a Robin main, I could learn a lot from this! :]
Great read on eXMel's part in the 2nd game. Reading Zelda's recovery option is a pretty difficult thing to do and he even managed to spike on the reappearance spot.
I think it's pretty interesting that a guy is playing a girl character and a girl is paying a guy character. Not that it matters, though I personally find it interesting
Aiden Nelson The book was green for a moment lol. It's a funny visual glitch that until the thunder goes up a level it starts charging the book you last used.
I think I fought Cosmo in a tourney a few days back. He was third and I was second I think, and we had an awesome battle that went to a sudden death. I only fought him like twice, unfortunately.
I like eXMeL and Cosmo,, but I can't always get down with someone playing just one character always. It feels almost like a gimmick sometimes. That being said, a good one for these two.
With the first game I kind of saw ExMel as a typical Robin player with nothing really special going on. Second game, I saw a light of skill, she was no longer the 'typical' Robin player I saw. Third game, the skill level dropped slightly near the end, no longer was she relentless. But there was still some skill in there... I enjoyed it, it was a good match.
So... did competitive brawl just stop altogether once smash 4 came out? I haven't heard much from it for a long time. It looks like most of the top brawl players moved on to smash 4 (salem, nairo, esam,...).
Exmel (And I'm using that because I don't know the full "username" she uses) was going a bit too slow with the 1-2-3 combo on Robin. Could've put the inputs in faster, and still got the elfire. As for the spam, I think she held some of the spam combos a bit too long. I haven't really tried using Robin's basic combo all too much because of its small range and hurtboxes. But then again, I've only played Robin because of random. I'm a R.O.B. main (Please support us on the endangered mains list :c )
+Aiden Nelson I'm sorry for disrespecting your kin... Never knew they were endangered just annoying. Wizards foot is a good counter to robo recoveries :v
Robin was okay but she needs to learn to grab those books and swords she was carelessly letting go to waste They each do 15~18% and can kill light weights like zelda but ya good thing Robin won :3 Go robins
this is what makes a tourny.... variety. diddys not hype and sheiks not hype. i LOVE when these "low tiers" go at it. proves that any character has potential in smash.
I wish people would step out of their comfort zones, and try to win tournaments with lower tier characters. This game is balanced, it's possible for a Samus to beat a Sheik if the work was put in. This happens in every Smash game and it upsets me. If people believe that a character is good, show the world that the character is good. Show the diversity of these games.
Zelda players needs a little more practice imo. He was good, but lots of missed opportunities. I love playing zelda, she's actually a pretty fun and good character.
Matthew Rodriguez I thought some of it was rather textbook play. Some good play during the Elwind Spike, but the rest seemed rather bland to me. This is coming from a Robin main.
Hermione: "That's barbaric!"
Ron: "That's wizard's Smash"
This is, A WIZARD DUEL!
Huk6 Wizard vs Witch
Tocaraca More like Wizard vs Sorceress. Calling Zelda a witch is quite mean, if you ask me...
Why was Zelda low tier in Brawl?
Tocaraca One of the reasons was her up b, she had a lot of reach but it did not have a hitbox, so people could edge hog (just grabbing the ledge and staying there) her easily. And meta knight.
I had no idea thatvwas the case. I thought the move always dealt damage and knockback.
But that was the same with Lucario and he wasn't low tier. What else made Zelda bad in Brawl?
We actually got a Robin in tournament, me likey
Look at Nairo
Black Mage nairo hasn't used Robin in tourney for months
Zach Tchida And? He's used him
Black Mage robin is shit and he realized it
Black Mage robin is shit and he realized it
wish there were more match ups like this instead of diddy kongs every where
I didn't know you watched competitive Smash
oh yeah i love smash
Adam Deeb
Yoooo we need to go sometime dawgg, you play Melee?
nope i don't have a wii or a wii u i only have the 3ds version
Adam Deeb
I have it too, what's yo friend code yo
THE PLAYS BY BOTH PLAYERS WERE UNREAL
The One Frame Elwind spike on the ledge was SUPER swaggy. I would just do a lame Arcfire.
ngl, this is straight up one of my favorite matches. I feel like both players are on such similar skill level, and both are playing such interesting characters that play off of each other well, that it just seriously makes it so much fun to watch. Besides, good to see more girls in smash.
This isn't a matchup I ever expected to see.
Is Cosmo the boy
Kai kai 101 yes
+Dan Drecun lol
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
Zelda vs Duck Hunt is the only matchup that's never been done
Amazing Zelda play
wwwwario Since I added you, I see you everywhere. Unbelievable.
Zelda for ever suks
Watching Zelda and Robin go at it at higher level play is entertaining.
That was
H Y P E
Zelda Justice
Robin Justice
Suh-pikes galore
Awesome! It's so nice to see another Zelda in the mist. I really love Cosmo's play of Zelda. Now he can help Zelda be noticed more in tourneys along with Nairo. Although Cosmo should've used more of Jab, Zelda's Jab is pretty decent.
eXMeL was also a really good Robin. Since Robin is a character I use for fun I think it's nice seeing one as well. Both rare characters.
Love how Cosmo uses the phanto to stop neutral b
Mushmak side b
Wafflayz TF2 and moar
Neutral b.
+ImpendJCS his b
Joocy Proot who's b?
~pk my b~
As a former Robin main, I was grinning at this.
Makes me want to main Robin now
Makes me happy to be a Robin main.
+Derek Lewis good luck he's hard to master
Former? What happened, man?
The Reactionist I needed someone faster at the time, now i'm thinking about him again.
The use of male robin makes me so happy. Blue Robin main for life man.
A.C. Williams i‘m a white robin main
GimR bringing new elements to streaming. Gotta respect that!
Wow, I'm sensing a "dejá vu" right now. 3 weeks ago I went to a regional tournament in my local scene (Smash PhD - São Paulo - Brazil) and I played Zelda and got to Loser's Finals on my bracket. I lost 2-1 to a Mario player and got 17th place.
To see that I got the same results with the guy that pretty much inspired me to play Zelda and helped get me in Smash 4 competitive play (Cosmo), even if the skill cap may and probably is way higher, makes me really happy and determined to get better and better. XD
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Isso eh muito bom cara, queria morar em sp tbm :D
Love watching the less commonly used characters go at it. Makes for much more unpredictable matches. And seeing my main Zelda get a little spotlight is always exciting.
As a Robin main, its nice to see a Robin used in a tourney for once
that first stock second round was orgasmic
4:23
NOT EVEN GOD COULD HAVE PREVENTED THAT SPIKE
HAVE MERCY ON THIS MAN'S SOUL
Robin said "GET BACK TO THE FUCKING BOTTOM TIER YOU BITCH"
Mfw robin is also a shit character
+RoverBot1 Not like Zelda's any higher on the tier list...
+RoverBot1 i preffer Zelda over Robin.
+Nathan Todd Robin is a good yet complex character
love the instant replays, this shit is like espn
Finally a Robin in a tournament! Well, I LOVE it! I love Robin so much, pretty cool character if you ask me! And was really hyped seeing this! As a Robin main, I could learn a lot from this! :]
No
I just love zelda!
Both of them worked it pretty hard.
8:14 T H O R O N G I R L Z
Great read on eXMel's part in the 2nd game. Reading Zelda's recovery option is a pretty difficult thing to do and he even managed to spike on the reappearance spot.
1 on 1 wizards and none of them are Wizzrobe
Gray Person "None of them ain't Wizzrobe"
So they're BOTH Wizzrobe!?
hermesleao Past 4AM and I'm bound to make typos like that.
I loved how eXMel played Robin. Very worthy opponent.
this match was super entertaining
where did they go for lunch after this btw?
you saw the salt on that robin palyers face when the footstool came out fo no where lol
WinWaker
This was quite interesting watching a little less common characters this far in😱
How did Cosmo get two double jumps after getting spiked at 4:20?
Finally a male robin user
Is that Cosmo? Like the guy who holds all the speed run records for most legend of Zelda games
Yea
Zelda Hammer really? It's the same person?
+Rohan C. yes
Yeah, he is... or was. Now he is Narcissa Wright, he is a trans
Nathan Cuevas yea he's lit fam
Wow Replays..this is the first video of a tournament match with replays I've seen in youtube...nice...
Nairo has an amazing Zelda too
woah the way cosmo cancelled ledge and teleported on stage instead was amazing
Why do Robins never use Nosferatu. I feel like it is a nice move
+Luis Delgado It has a lot of lag and not too much range so there are usually better options. Sometimes I see it used out of and arc thunder though.
it's hard to "hit it" more likely you combo nosferatu with arcthunder as robin main that's all I know for now
you know the player's a girl when you see the male Robin
but my robin is male......OMG i'm a girl
I really enjoyed this match, rare characters and it was close.
this game doe.
Stoked to see cosmo play this game.
amazing play and i love the recap box they implemented good shit
Definitely nice to see a Robin in tournament.
Smash 4 looks slow as hell now
Great Robin !
I think it's pretty interesting that a guy is playing a girl character and a girl is paying a guy character. Not that it matters, though I personally find it interesting
That Girl who played Robin was amazing. I think Cosmo was the world's best Zelda so for a Robin to beat him means a lot to me. Thanks Exmel!
back before cosmo went of the deep end
Kaheiyattsu221 True!!
8:58
Robin charging elwind? lol
What? No, that was thunder she was charging
Aiden Nelson The book was green for a moment lol.
It's a funny visual glitch that until the thunder goes up a level it starts charging the book you last used.
+Alicia Lee ''ArcWind!''
Like the first woman I have ever seen play competitive smash! Playing against my favorite speed runner! I'm a fan of both players now
this was an amazing game, great job to both players.
A Zelda main with a Los Pollos Hermanos hoodie. Wish I knew the guy we would be best buds.
I think I fought Cosmo in a tourney a few days back. He was third and I was second I think, and we had an awesome battle that went to a sudden death. I only fought him like twice, unfortunately.
wait, is this the same cosmo that epic failed in the nintendo world championship 2015 in mario maker?
Is that the Cosmo that does Legend of Zelda speedruns? I think I'd recognize those tired eyes anywhere.
Yes, the same one that got the wr in oot by using wrong warp.
Bruh this is the Cosmo that was at the Nintendo world tournament XD
U mean the Finalist from the Nintendo World Championships, it sucks that he chocked tho at the very last Mario level. :(
Dude, being a Robin main (ish I'm getting there, I have a couple mains I'll use) I learned a lot from exmel
what console are they playing on?
Robin Williams vs Zelda williams who would win?
So robin williams vs his daughter?
I see what you did there lol
Well, finally a Zelda player who does not spam that Din's Fire... (And its awesome playing her!)
How long has cosmo been playing competitive smash?
Beautiful match
OMG WINWAKER IS ON COMPETIVE SCENE, i didnt knew that
This is one of the reasons why i like Smash 4 more than Melee (In a Competitive aspect), you actually see the majority of the cast being used.
Excellent match!
RIP formerly know as Cosmo
I like eXMeL and Cosmo,, but I can't always get down with someone playing just one character always. It feels almost like a gimmick sometimes. That being said, a good one for these two.
lol the instant replays though
With the first game I kind of saw ExMel as a typical Robin player with nothing really special going on.
Second game, I saw a light of skill, she was no longer the 'typical' Robin player I saw.
Third game, the skill level dropped slightly near the end, no longer was she relentless. But there was still some skill in there...
I enjoyed it, it was a good match.
Came here for Cosmo, now i'm cheering for eXMeL.
So... did competitive brawl just stop altogether once smash 4 came out? I haven't heard much from it for a long time. It looks like most of the top brawl players moved on to smash 4 (salem, nairo, esam,...).
Most people never actually took competitive brawl seriously... But sm4sh is basically just better brawl (no tripping, Better ledge mechanics, etc.)
Who is eXMeL
interesting zelda...her moves are incredibly easy to sweet spot and hit with so it would be interesting what combos come from her
6:13 was beyond disappointing since he saw that smash attack coming but still got hit. But I admit he got good spikes and roll punishes with Zelda.
Exmel (And I'm using that because I don't know the full "username" she uses) was going a bit too slow with the 1-2-3 combo on Robin. Could've put the inputs in faster, and still got the elfire. As for the spam, I think she held some of the spam combos a bit too long. I haven't really tried using Robin's basic combo all too much because of its small range and hurtboxes.
But then again, I've only played Robin because of random. I'm a R.O.B. main (Please support us on the endangered mains list :c )
It's okay my friend
I too, am a robot
Sept.25 will be the day we get to have true learning robot robots
This is the way the world ends XD
And I am not joking, the R.O.B. Amiibo comes out next Thursday and that is when we get to have tiny learning robot-robots
Skynet rejoice!!
+Aiden Nelson I'm sorry for disrespecting your kin... Never knew they were endangered just annoying. Wizards foot is a good counter to robo recoveries :v
Like a wizard's duel.
WinWaker is grill?
Robin was okay but she needs to learn to grab those books and swords she was carelessly letting go to waste
They each do 15~18% and can kill light weights like zelda but ya good thing Robin won :3
Go robins
My main and my second? Tournament level play? Where is my notebook?
this is what makes a tourny.... variety. diddys not hype and sheiks not hype. i LOVE when these "low tiers" go at it. proves that any character has potential in smash.
exmel is the girl right?
The Robin player comes to my weeklies but ayyyyyyyyyyy
i think eXMeL is for XML xD the informatics language ^^
COSMO!!!! HE IS A FAMOUS SPEEDRUNNER GUYS!
I really like that girl who plays as Robin.
It seemed like Cosmo was having success with pummel/Nair combos, I wish he would have kept that up instead of doing a lot of useless forward throws.
I think Exmel ran out of Elwind after that jab in the first match.
Can we talk about the ledge grab at 8:55
literally what the fuck
(JasonOrtago) That's a great battle tho!
Never seen a Zelda play this good before. :O
BidoofBrown dude you should watch cosmo's stream on twitch! he owns people for hours and hours with zelda
***** Cosmo is great at saving Zelda... on OoT and Wind Waker Kappa
I wish people would step out of their comfort zones, and try to win tournaments with lower tier characters. This game is balanced, it's possible for a Samus to beat a Sheik if the work was put in. This happens in every Smash game and it upsets me. If people believe that a character is good, show the world that the character is good. Show the diversity of these games.
It also depends on the characters playstyle
Well I'm entering a smaller tournament with Lucina and Robin soon. I agree with you, any character is good if you try hard enough :D
I won one of my local tournaments with falco, and I was against a sheik. I really think winning depends on the player and their level of skill.
no shadow realm today
Zelda players needs a little more practice imo. He was good, but lots of missed opportunities. I love playing zelda, she's actually a pretty fun and good character.
Guardian Guardian did he just say good block with the guardian bro that's a phantom........
good Robin play, had the right ideas but was kinda slow acting upon them
Matthew Rodriguez I thought some of it was rather textbook play. Some good play during the Elwind Spike, but the rest seemed rather bland to me.
This is coming from a Robin main.
Dude i love Zelda in smash 4, she`s awesome.
Prince Marth I know I'm late but shouldn't you be cheering for Robin?
My man Cosmo.
woman he is trans
Damn, good game.
Am I the only one that notices The girl is playing Boy Robin and the guy is playing Zelda?
Pretty sure everyone noticed that but only you found it strange