@@jindrichsander7271 which is exactly what Ben is His grandma is an anodite And it was hinted in the start of uaf that he also has the power when turns back from ultimate spider monkey,where his eyes glow like gwen's He just isn't a full anodite like them,he does have some powers
@@kannan07 ben in canon isn't an anodite, his eyes glew because of the ultimatrix glitch being hinted way too far but the writers were too lazy to write it in. Ben 10 000 learned simple barrier spells in his words"being an anodites cousin has its perks" but ben himself isn't an anodite as confirmed by verdonna AND ben in the alien force episode
@@kannan07 verdona clearly said it's either you CAN go anodite or not. what ben has is a magic aura that allows him to cast spells as charmcaster. that's it. don't hype it up.
@@jindrichsander7271 saying they were too lazy to write it is crazy. It was a dropped plot line, plain and simple. We don't know why it was dropped, but it was
You know, Ben prime is technically immortal Since if he's about to die,the omnitrix will most likely transform him to either alien X or clockwork Unless he himself wants to die,which I honestly feel like he would
@@kannan07 actually if you watch the whole ben10 vs malware you will understand that what ever happening in Ben 10 is just a loop And if you break the loop you will get alternative Ben Ben prime was with the god who made the universe with alien x as well
@@tedxteddy ya that's how timelines work It's not because he's outside time,those other variants are basically branches,his future isn't a branch,but it becomes a branch if Ben decides to do something that doesn't match with the future We don't really know what caused the differences,but ya
How come you didn’t bring it some video game versions of Ben like the Cosmic Destruction version of Ben who’s kinda a alternate divergent version of Ben Prime? How well would Cosmic Destruction’s Ben Potis Altiare enhanced Waybig do against the others? Would you scale Cosmic Destruction Ben to Ben Prime from Ultimate Alien Season 1 and 2 cause I heard the season 2 finale is where this Ben’s timeline diverts
@@parry3439 Paradox did mention an universe where Albedo was trapped inside Alien X, which happened in the DS version of vilgax attacks. You could say the games are at least semi-canon via multiverse
@@mayotango1317and ov ben is better i will name many moments when Ben 10 Omniverse is more mature than his OG 2005 counterpart Omniverse Ben sacrificed himself to save no watch Ben and gave us these words it's just a gadget be the hero where as uaf Ben 10 already almost gave up when he lost his Omnitrix uaf Ben 10 was not the best boyfriend as he has cheated on his girlfriend twice and there's an episode when there was that escaped prisoner he makes a joke at the end after that with that episode being one of the darkest Ben 10 episodes as that guy lost his family and everybody looks at Ben cuz it's the wrong place wrong time to make a joke Omniverse Ben didn't give up at all during the incursion War Arc in the world seemed as though that would have been the safe move he instead makes a strategy to infiltrate them and succeeds how about the malware Arc where Ben must learn from his past losses or the amalgam Kids Arc unlike his uaf counterpart he does not go out of his way to kill Kevin even though Kevin brainwashed manipulated to kill him as a child Ben still tries to save his friend and not outright kill him in fact the amalgam kids Arc might be one of the darkest arcs in Ben 10 as it with the deals of brainwashing children and kidnapping them to kill another child or how he creates a brilliant strategy to hide the Chrono Navigator by making a map and making the treasure be hidden in the first part of the map which even Gwen says is brilliant and in that episode we see the difference in the personalities from his present self and Omniverse and his past self which is major plus the reason why he acts chill most of the time is because there's barely any threats which is what we see in episode 3 of Omniverse there is barely any threats all the villains are running away from him he's probably a little bit Rusty as he hasn't really battled that many Top Dog villains it's not until malware and Khyber come into the picture that he does for comparison in the episode duped for uaf Ben he creates clones of himself just so he can see a movie instead of spending time with his girlfriend and then when his girlfriend asked if he wants to go see the movie that he's been wanting to watch he says he already watched it and he laughs at an interview that a guy that she looks up to and in his face and she calls them a terrible boyfriend and in the episode eye of the beholder Ben is reluctant to help his girlfriend out because she broke up with him even though her pet which is dangerous might be in trouble he doesn't even try to help until later even though the sky supposed to be a hero he's reluctant to help someone in need while mind controlled Omniverse Ben resisted it by reminding himself and the audience of what being a true hero is in the mind control is plaguing him by making him see his selfish desires but it doesn't work because he knows what it means to be a true hero no I'm not saying Omniverse Ben is perfect I'm just saying that is actually more mature than initially than what some people in the past thought as now Omniverse is getting praise compared to what it used to be but I recommend re-watching Omniverse again but this time in the actual order I recommend looking at the Ben 10 Wiki for this by searching up Ben 10 Omniverse on the Ben 10 Wiki and click on episodes to actually watch the show properly as Cartoon Network for some reason in the 2010s was messing up some shows that did not air in the right order Star Wars the Clone Wars was among these anywhere else besides the point the point is the Omniverse Ben is way more mature than what you gave him credit for as he has plenty of mature and great battle strategy moments Omniverse got dark when it need to just like the OG series however uaf was practically almost all the time dark both literally and storytelling and in the actual Arts style in the show because they're always at night I assure you this Omniverse Ben is way more mature than his 2005 OG counterpart as that when we committed criminal activity because he didn't get a chance to play a sumo Slammers game and is running from police and causing destruction and actively participate in these acts and previously he would use hero guilt to get what he wants with Gwen calling him out on that while in comparison Omniverse Ben while being mind-controlled resist the same type of Temptations that his OG counterpart wouldn't have resisted while transform mind you as Big chill resisting his natural Predators mind control meaning it's way more stronger than the average mind control showing he has great willpower
@@mayotango1317also he has the best feats feedback took hits from malware who can be scale to planetary to Star level he also reacts to tachyon Cannon lasers before which is mftl speeds also it's pretty common knowledge that the Omnitrix gets him what he needs not what he wants and sometimes there's a few moments of user error he also has the best failsafe having a disarm Fail-Safe and a anti-death fail safe it also has a fail safe against magic because it was shown being able to activate it's fail safe against charm casters rock monsters meaning as it has a Fail-Safe against magic something the other watches previously could not have because they were glitchy he also should be above his no wash counterpart who brought back the freaking Multiverse and use it to absorb freaking Souls as feedback in order to pretty much KO a stronger argost who is the main villain of The Secret Saturdays Ben took him down in one episode permanently of what they were trying to do in 36 plus comics oh and this Ben has been shown to dodge Clockworks time blast in human form meaning he has arguably infinite's speed and during the soccer match he managed to keep up with rook in his cardio and was shown to use outmaneuvering techniques to fight without his watch so yes he is actually quite skilled
@@darthhorizon1735 That "It's just a gadget, be a hero" thing is perhaps the most hypocritical thing OV Ben said because he is the least heroic of all the Bens. The Incursion invasion it was all a plan by Attea to overthrow his father, and Ben was his pawn and the worst thing is that Argit is more seen as a hero who defeated the To'kustar. And Ben doesn't even seem to care that Kevin and the Amalgam Children were manipulated into killing him by a pathetic paranoid Sideshow Bob Servantis (That arc is more inconsistent and poorly written than it is dark). Frankly Ben is a worse boyfriend to Ester and Kai, he even showed more concern and affection for Julie in her last episode than he did with them in the entire Omniverse. Ben continues to be cocky and care about his fame in episodes after that hallucination in 'Malefactor' including humiliating his cousin at college. OV Ben is a one note and flanderized character, he will never be as mature and heroic as AF Ben was.
@@darthhorizon1735 And OV Ben had no problem killing Malware. What happened to "Why fight them, we can help them" when he healed the Highbreeds' damaged DNA?
I have a quick question about the OG Ben 10K and the Omniverse Ben 10K. That being are they considered the same person? The reason I asked is when I went through he Ben 10 wiki a few months ago it linked the OG one and the Omniverse one as the same person, I know Omniverse had a bad habit of backtracking on the decisions of Ultimate Alien and the fun fact cards but is that just a wiki decision or actual canon that they're the same guy.
i think he would be second or third, with Ultimate Ben coming in as number one, the second strongest alien behind Alien X is clockwork, and Ultimate Ben was the one that showed the most mastery over the transformation while Ben prime kinda sucks at using clockwork, the question to decide who would be number two would just be if Ben 10K is better at using clockwork than prime
The problem with Omniverse Ben 10k is that biomnitrix doesn't seem to allow him to become 1 full alien But honestly,I feel like he has the other omnitrices too
@@hattoripool1533 idk, if he can, why doesn't he??? They have said it themselves that writer statements aren't fully canon,but just their own opinions on what's possible
Wouldnt UA Ben 10K have an advantage since he's the only one who can use magic and magic is known to screw with the Omnitrix? Not to mention access to the Ultimate forms, so he can easily just use magic on all the Omnitrixes then just Ultimate Swampfire kamikaze everyone.
But there's no proof that magic screws with Omniverse Omnitrix! Because it's the completed version. The only Omnitrix we saw get screws with magic is the prototype version!
Wait where's the other Ben's from the other shows? Also having whoever has alien x control as the winner is kinda boring, I'd wanna see who could win without the op god
they all are the same Ben ie. BEN PRIME also ultimately it will come down to Alien X and before that almost infinite scenarios can be made to what will happen so only Alien X was chosen
Ultimate ben's anodite powers would come to play plus I believe he'd be the most experienced as he's the closest version to Ben prime
That was magic, not anodite. Anodites are an alien race.
@@jindrichsander7271 which is exactly what Ben is
His grandma is an anodite
And it was hinted in the start of uaf that he also has the power when turns back from ultimate spider monkey,where his eyes glow like gwen's
He just isn't a full anodite like them,he does have some powers
@@kannan07 ben in canon isn't an anodite, his eyes glew because of the ultimatrix glitch being hinted way too far but the writers were too lazy to write it in. Ben 10 000 learned simple barrier spells in his words"being an anodites cousin has its perks" but ben himself isn't an anodite as confirmed by verdonna AND ben in the alien force episode
@@kannan07 verdona clearly said it's either you CAN go anodite or not. what ben has is a magic aura that allows him to cast spells as charmcaster. that's it. don't hype it up.
@@jindrichsander7271 saying they were too lazy to write it is crazy. It was a dropped plot line, plain and simple. We don't know why it was dropped, but it was
You know, Ben prime is technically immortal
Since if he's about to die,the omnitrix will most likely transform him to either alien X or clockwork
Unless he himself wants to die,which I honestly feel like he would
XD isn't Ben prime exist outside of time
@@tedxteddy that's news to me
The only species that exists outside of time is alien X and other celestialsapians
@@kannan07 actually if you watch the whole ben10 vs malware you will understand that what ever happening in Ben 10 is just a loop
And if you break the loop you will get alternative Ben
Ben prime was with the god who made the universe with alien x as well
@@kannan07 universe we know and love in the world is said that it has space and time if there is no universe there is no space or time
@@tedxteddy ya that's how timelines work
It's not because he's outside time,those other variants are basically branches,his future isn't a branch,but it becomes a branch if Ben decides to do something that doesn't match with the future
We don't really know what caused the differences,but ya
Really enjoying the Ben 10 content bro, keep it up 👌
How come you didn’t bring it some video game versions of Ben like the Cosmic Destruction version of Ben who’s kinda a alternate divergent version of Ben Prime? How well would Cosmic Destruction’s Ben Potis Altiare enhanced Waybig do against the others? Would you scale Cosmic Destruction Ben to Ben Prime from Ultimate Alien Season 1 and 2 cause I heard the season 2 finale is where this Ben’s timeline diverts
They aren't canon to the main series
@@Classyboo123 well I mean they are referenced by the series for example the events of Vilgax attacks are mentioned in Ben 10,000 returns
@@Classyboo123 Actually they are as Paradox directly mentioned them. Any alternative timelines and universes are canon.
@@calvinkopp1735 no he didn't, he never mentioned anything about "Ben with a potis altiare". stop the cap
@@parry3439 Paradox did mention an universe where Albedo was trapped inside Alien X, which happened in the DS version of vilgax attacks. You could say the games are at least semi-canon via multiverse
If Ben prime shares the same timeline as Ben 10000, wouldn't that make ben 10000 better coz he did everything Ben prime did, but even more
nah they all branch out from the same timeline
I think he lost control of Alien X at some point.
I don't see why he would combine him with Atomix if he didn't control it.
obviously omniverse ben is top
The incompetent buffoon who can't even control his Omnitrix? Oh really?
@@mayotango1317and ov ben is better i will name many moments when Ben 10 Omniverse is more mature than his OG 2005 counterpart Omniverse Ben sacrificed himself to save no watch Ben and gave us these words it's just a gadget be the hero where as uaf Ben 10 already almost gave up when he lost his Omnitrix uaf Ben 10 was not the best boyfriend as he has cheated on his girlfriend twice and there's an episode when there was that escaped prisoner he makes a joke at the end after that with that episode being one of the darkest Ben 10 episodes as that guy lost his family and everybody looks at Ben cuz it's the wrong place wrong time to make a joke Omniverse Ben didn't give up at all during the incursion War Arc in the world seemed as though that would have been the safe move he instead makes a strategy to infiltrate them and succeeds how about the malware Arc where Ben must learn from his past losses or the amalgam Kids Arc unlike his uaf counterpart he does not go out of his way to kill Kevin even though Kevin brainwashed manipulated to kill him as a child Ben still tries to save his friend and not outright kill him in fact the amalgam kids Arc might be one of the darkest arcs in Ben 10 as it with the deals of brainwashing children and kidnapping them to kill another child or how he creates a brilliant strategy to hide the Chrono Navigator by making a map and making the treasure be hidden in the first part of the map which even Gwen says is brilliant and in that episode we see the difference in the personalities from his present self and Omniverse and his past self which is major plus the reason why he acts chill most of the time is because there's barely any threats which is what we see in episode 3 of Omniverse there is barely any threats all the villains are running away from him he's probably a little bit Rusty as he hasn't really battled that many Top Dog villains it's not until malware and Khyber come into the picture that he does for comparison in the episode duped for uaf Ben he creates clones of himself just so he can see a movie instead of spending time with his girlfriend and then when his girlfriend asked if he wants to go see the movie that he's been wanting to watch he says he already watched it and he laughs at an interview that a guy that she looks up to and in his face and she calls them a terrible boyfriend and in the episode eye of the beholder Ben is reluctant to help his girlfriend out because she broke up with him even though her pet which is dangerous might be in trouble he doesn't even try to help until later even though the sky supposed to be a hero he's reluctant to help someone in need while mind controlled Omniverse Ben resisted it by reminding himself and the audience of what being a true hero is in the mind control is plaguing him by making him see his selfish desires but it doesn't work because he knows what it means to be a true hero no I'm not saying Omniverse Ben is perfect I'm just saying that is actually more mature than initially than what some people in the past thought as now Omniverse is getting praise compared to what it used to be but I recommend re-watching Omniverse again but this time in the actual order I recommend looking at the Ben 10 Wiki for this by searching up Ben 10 Omniverse on the Ben 10 Wiki and click on episodes to actually watch the show properly as Cartoon Network for some reason in the 2010s was messing up some shows that did not air in the right order Star Wars the Clone Wars was among these anywhere else besides the point the point is the Omniverse Ben is way more mature than what you gave him credit for as he has plenty of mature and great battle strategy moments Omniverse got dark when it need to just like the OG series however uaf was practically almost all the time dark both literally and storytelling and in the actual Arts style in the show because they're always at night I assure you this Omniverse Ben is way more mature than his 2005 OG counterpart as that when we committed criminal activity because he didn't get a chance to play a sumo Slammers game and is running from police and causing destruction and actively participate in these acts and previously he would use hero guilt to get what he wants with Gwen calling him out on that while in comparison Omniverse Ben while being mind-controlled resist the same type of Temptations that his OG counterpart wouldn't have resisted while transform mind you as Big chill resisting his natural Predators mind control meaning it's way more stronger than the average mind control showing he has great willpower
@@mayotango1317also he has the best feats feedback took hits from malware who can be scale to planetary to Star level he also reacts to tachyon Cannon lasers before which is mftl speeds also it's pretty common knowledge that the Omnitrix gets him what he needs not what he wants and sometimes there's a few moments of user error he also has the best failsafe having a disarm Fail-Safe and a anti-death fail safe it also has a fail safe against magic because it was shown being able to activate it's fail safe against charm casters rock monsters meaning as it has a Fail-Safe against magic something the other watches previously could not have because they were glitchy he also should be above his no wash counterpart who brought back the freaking Multiverse and use it to absorb freaking Souls as feedback in order to pretty much KO a stronger argost who is the main villain of The Secret Saturdays Ben took him down in one episode permanently of what they were trying to do in 36 plus comics oh and this Ben has been shown to dodge Clockworks time blast in human form meaning he has arguably infinite's speed and during the soccer match he managed to keep up with rook in his cardio and was shown to use outmaneuvering techniques to fight without his watch so yes he is actually quite skilled
@@darthhorizon1735 That "It's just a gadget, be a hero" thing is perhaps the most hypocritical thing OV Ben said because he is the least heroic of all the Bens. The Incursion invasion it was all a plan by Attea to overthrow his father, and Ben was his pawn and the worst thing is that Argit is more seen as a hero who defeated the To'kustar. And Ben doesn't even seem to care that Kevin and the Amalgam Children were manipulated into killing him by a pathetic paranoid Sideshow Bob Servantis (That arc is more inconsistent and poorly written than it is dark). Frankly Ben is a worse boyfriend to Ester and Kai, he even showed more concern and affection for Julie in her last episode than he did with them in the entire Omniverse. Ben continues to be cocky and care about his fame in episodes after that hallucination in 'Malefactor' including humiliating his cousin at college. OV Ben is a one note and flanderized character, he will never be as mature and heroic as AF Ben was.
@@darthhorizon1735 And OV Ben had no problem killing Malware. What happened to "Why fight them, we can help them" when he healed the Highbreeds' damaged DNA?
I have a quick question about the OG Ben 10K and the Omniverse Ben 10K. That being are they considered the same person? The reason I asked is when I went through he Ben 10 wiki a few months ago it linked the OG one and the Omniverse one as the same person, I know Omniverse had a bad habit of backtracking on the decisions of Ultimate Alien and the fun fact cards but is that just a wiki decision or actual canon that they're the same guy.
Where would Ben Prime be ranked if we're not counting Alien X ?
No one gets alien X?am gonna say right below ultimate Ben
still in first
i think he would be second or third, with Ultimate Ben coming in as number one, the second strongest alien behind Alien X is clockwork, and Ultimate Ben was the one that showed the most mastery over the transformation while Ben prime kinda sucks at using clockwork, the question to decide who would be number two would just be if Ben 10K is better at using clockwork than prime
@@arthuralexander1449Ben10k seems better with his on clockwork
The problem with Omniverse Ben 10k is that biomnitrix doesn't seem to allow him to become 1 full alien
But honestly,I feel like he has the other omnitrices too
@@Akkapoler I would've thought he could by having the same alien be selected on both half's of the biomnitrix
According to statements the Biomnitrix can use regular transformations
@@hattoripool1533 idk, if he can, why doesn't he???
They have said it themselves that writer statements aren't fully canon,but just their own opinions on what's possible
@@hattoripool1533 yeah wouldn't he just have to set it so that both half's do the same alien
@@kannan07 I'll tell you why he doesn't, because they wanted to continuously use that gimmick
Me when every version of Ben Tennyson doesn't actually mean every version of Ben Tennyson.
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Firckin alien X man 😂
Wouldnt UA Ben 10K have an advantage since he's the only one who can use magic and magic is known to screw with the Omnitrix? Not to mention access to the Ultimate forms, so he can easily just use magic on all the Omnitrixes then just Ultimate Swampfire kamikaze everyone.
But there's no proof that magic screws with Omniverse Omnitrix! Because it's the completed version. The only Omnitrix we saw get screws with magic is the prototype version!
Bad Ben should be about nega ben nega Ben did literally nothing and didn't even fight and he only shown using gutrot
He got combat experience master control and wisdom easy he wins
Og ben 10000 is the strongest
Wait where's the other Ben's from the other shows? Also having whoever has alien x control as the winner is kinda boring, I'd wanna see who could win without the op god
they all are the same Ben ie. BEN PRIME
also ultimately it will come down to Alien X and before that almost infinite scenarios can be made to what will happen so only Alien X was chosen