I love the New ultimate aggregor forms, i have the idea after making all classics/reboot ultimate forms of the aliens, make venomized/overkillized version of the aliens like with stinger OBLTR or ore.
It would’ve been such a crazy but hilarious Deus Ex Machina… Like the group watches in horror as Greg absorbs the Celestialsapien and cowers before it… But when Greg (in the mindscape) tries to move, he’s told from behind… Bivalvan: “I’m sorry, but that requires a majority vote” Greg freezes solid, as he turns to see the Andromeda Five. He calls this as a trick, but he can feel his body outside… Frozen in time. He can see the whole team looking back at him, when he sees Ben smirking. As Aggregor tries to lash out, maybe ethereal chains form around him. Bivalvan: “Denied” Pandor: “Denied” Galapagos: “Denied” Andreus: “Andreus says No!” Ra’ad: “Denied” Bivalvan: “The vote is unanimous, we shall remain here” Aggregor screams into the emptiness of the mindscape. While Ben, Gwen, Young Ben and Kevin inspect the body on the outside.
Bivalvin: The Voice of Knowledge and Survival Gallapagus: The Voice of Peace and Compassion Andraus: The Voice of Loyalty and Simplicity Pandor: The Voice of Stubbornness and Cunning Raad: The Voice of Opportunity and Deceit Aggragor: The voice of "Reason" ( *Who isn't even allowed to get a word in* )
I can see them lock Aggregor in "indefinite amount of time" while slowing the time in his perspective down at first, just to make his torture went on eternally until they realize, they need to get out of here to reunite with their races so... All the voice attempts to reform him into at least more quotes on a decent person so he won't go and do the same thing to other aliens through approvals in some action that they deems "good enough"(yeah punishment and reward stuff). That would be the greatest punishment for him and it would do good for universe. I can see it in the entire episode of everybody trying to separate alien X while having the internal conflict inside of god lock as fillers.
It would be funny if Greg actually got celestial sapian DNA only to become a cool statue. Every time he tries to say something all five just immediately go 'No'.
I can imagine all 5 arguing amongst themselves, then Greg tries to make his opinion heard. The 5 stop, all look at each other for a moment before all turning back to him with a collective "NO!" before going back to their discussion.
Agreggor absorbing the Celestialsapien baby only to have the consciousness of the Andromeda Five lock him in stasis due to spite and never willing to agree on anything is like Jafar from the 1992 Aladdin movie wishing to become an all-powerful genie only to be forever imprisoned inside his own lamp.
And since Agreggor is not a pure Celestialsapien, he can still die with no access to his powers, similar to how Return of Jafar (the Aladdin series pilot) established that an enslaved genie has their life bound to their lamp.
Personally, I think giving Aggregor an amalgam form of all of the ultimate andromeda five aliens and a celestialsapien fusion is genius. It’s also genius that celestialsapien Aggregor now has the andromeda five to serve as his own Bellicus and Serena
except that wont be viable in the show paradox states that baby celestial sepians dont have the split consciousness, its just has one consciousness. so no aggregor wont be stuck in his god form. and that is why aggregor went for the baby in the first place
It would be an ironic and bittersweet ending, but fitting that Aggregor is now the one trapped. Locked away in a prison of his own making, his hubris being his downfall as he gets EXACTLY what he wanted.
@@aryanvohra626pay attention to the video. Ash’s reasoning is that due to the entirety of the Andromeda 5 being absorbed, and when they return their personality are still there that means greg somehow contained their personality’s too. This is a very possible thing that could have happened because we really dont know what happens when you fuse with celestialsapians. Maybe it would have been an 8 way debate if he absorbed a mature celestial. Im sure gregs plan would have worked if he absorbed ONLY the baby, and dispelled the 5 when he was fusing but we will never really know.
What I found weird is that everyone acted as if Aggregor never existed. Kevin sacrificed his sanity to defeat him and Ben actually has the audacity to treat this as if he saved the universe for another time. Ben was pretty agressive when hunting down Kevin. Where was that mindset when it comes to Aggregor or vilgax?
Imo Ben was trying to do things the "heroic" way while hunting Aggregor but every time he did he failed so when Kevin went insane I feel like Ben snapped a little and basically said, "Fuck it, this way isn't working I'm gonna start killing now." lol
It does remind me of moments when marvel and DC would have a reformed villain suddenly slide back into villainy after being on the heroic side for a long time. It honestly feels more like Aggregor was a means to an end. That the actual main story was Kevin being evil again. And in the way of him “going crazy”. Not an introspective look into developed trauma or actual diagnoses. Rather, a literal mad with power situation.
All those designs are awesome, but I love godlocked. It's this twisted Ironic downfall I love. Greg has all the Power he wanted- But with more drawbacks than he originally thought for
Honestly, the whole "godlocked" idea seems like a more fitting ben 10 story than the ACTUAL one. After all, most of the lessons in ben 10 are about responsibility with power, and how better to show this than to show the ultimate fate of one who is irresponsible with said power?
Other than Ben and the group actually doing a good amount of the legwork, Aggregor was one of the better Villains from the series. He was intelligent and planned out everything to the point he was basically invincible. Him being stuck with the Andromeda 5 as a Celestial Sapien would have been an awesome twist for the storyline.
I don't know if Greg hanging back so much was a hurdle to him being an effective villain, it kinda seems like just the opposite. If Galapagus's recollection was accurate, dude just showed up, absorbed his friend, gave his wind powers a spin, then kidnapped him like ten seconds later, throwing him into a cell with the other four captives. Aggregor clearly prefers putting in as little effort as is necessary with his plans. Thus, with them crashing on Earth, and this human superhero being so widely known that even the (seemingly) isolated Aldabra has heard of him, all he needed to do was sit back, wait for the only members of their species on the planet to cause trouble, let Ben subdue them to his satisfaction, then strike while they're alone. Very much a "work smarter" kind of guy, you know?
I love the ironic twist of the Celestialsapien DNA. The mental image of the other 5 just teaming up against Agregor and maybe just beating him up rather than just telling him "no" is funny to me. I mean, Ben gets to keep his body in Alien X's mimdsxape, so I don't see why the A5 and Agregor wouldn't.
Godlock would have been the ideal outcome for the Ultimate Greg arc to end. Since I can just see the reaction everyone has to him just floating there unmoving to be something. As they would have assumed that he would have full control over the form before the realization that the Andromeda Five are also present. After all, their bodies weren't present after Greg absorbed their full power into himself. So the realization that their consciousnesses are there creating a 5v1 would be amazing. Especially since Teen Ben would tell his younger self that it takes the majority of the personalities for celestalsapiens to do anything. Even saying that they should have realized that the five aliens were still alive, just buried deep inside of Greg's mind unable to do anything till now.
But ok, however when I remember they wouldn't have to Agree all to carry a motion, so you would have bunch of buthurt, broken, betrayed , traumatized, decisive personalitys in a celestialaspien body. Not exactly the better Alternative
It would have been a really fun twist for Greg to achieve his goal and have a ‘all is lost’ moment, only for him to hear a whisper: “Silence personality:1(’Greg’)?” “Mutual agreement!”
Greg: Finally absorbed the Adromida V and gained a huge boost in power Greg, when he finally absorbed the Infant Celestialsapien: "YES! I AM NOW A GOD!! THE UNIVERSE IS NOW MINE!!" Meanwhile the Adromida V: Imma end this man's whole career.
Are there really that many leftover legs? Wait, 90% of the time only arms are there, the legs are either just 1 pair with all of their traits or just a single trait.
I feel like Godlocked takes one action before just locking Aggregor in place for all eternity, that being the five creating a system so that they each can essentially be given an avatar to interact with their friends and family from home once more. Due to side effects of them basically being immortal this would cycle a few times.
I ADORE the idea of the Andromeda 5 being so pissed at Aggregor that even if he did fuse with the celestialsapian baby, they'd just never let him do anything or even move and just stay there until he defuses them all along with the baby
Fun fact: Aggregor was originally going to be voiced by Clancy Brown! Not only that, he was also supposed to return in Omniverse, within an early version of "The Rooters of All Evil". He would have sought out Kevin and revealed himself to be an experiment created by the Rooters to duplicate Kevin's powers, potentially with his memories being fabricated. Had the episode gone as planned, Aggregor would've died via his genetic code breaking down, essentially melting into a pile of goo. Derrick himself confirmed that the reason why Aggregor was excluded was because nobody was enthusiastic enough to do another story centering around him. The majority of the crew had worked on the first two seasons of Ultimate Alien, so none of them were in a hurry to bring him back.
On one hand it does sound like a sort of cool direction to take Aggregor, and would answer a tiny amount of questions on the rooters retcon, on the other I wasn't all that down to see him again either
Clancy? Not a coincidence The redesign of aggregor looks like Clancy, the insect villian from the episode "side effects" where Ben gets a cold and his aliens' powers change, like heatblast becomes freezeblast.
I feel like, for the What If idea, it'd mainly be Bivalan and P'andor arguing when the group isn't talking against Aggregor. Meanwhile Andreas and Galapagus just talking, and Ra'ad just wanting to leave, but knowing he can't.
The only way to escape from God-Lock I see is that the Andromeda's aliens agree to strip him of his powers, returning him to the Mortal plane, weak and ready for capture. They are living beings after all, I think they don't want to be trapped forever.
I know that Celestialsapiens can do virtually anything but is “Becoming not a celestialsapien” included in that? Is that why outside of Ben, most Celestialsapiens have two personalities max? If there’s only two, they can’t get the majority vote to boot someone out?
@@yannismorris4772 1. If it is mandatory for all 6 voices to decide and Greg does not want to accept out of pure pride, that is not my problem. 2. I don't know the Celestialsapiens limits but I deduce that they could control Greg to release all of his power where it belongs.
I dunno...Such a decision needs a unanimous vote. I really think that at least one of them would decide to stay in the God-Lock form just out of sheer hatred and spite for Aggregor.
@@bradleychan5684 As I said, if everyone agrees, at least Pandor chooses to lock him up forever and Galapagus hand him over to the Plumbers. At least I can say that they're not celestial beings like Belicus and Serena, they're senntiens mortal beings, and being trapped for eternity is exhausting (look what happened to the prisoner Chamalien), so I guess they'll eventually agree to let him go. + recover their bodies.
Given Omniverse played the multiverse so much it’s literally in the series name, I’m surprised they never explored universes like what you’re kind of exploring of what if Greg won
Before video: ooof this'll be a hard sell for me, I've had a profound distaste for aggregor on every front, including both of his designs but I got faith in you ORASH! After video: * that base redesign has a good train of thought to it, even Id it still has Gregs less than desirable human basicness. * YESS! The you really fixed the armor and face with the first amalgam form, and galapegus' finns are a wonderful tough too! Not to mention the blade horn! * i am a bit overwhelmed but the ultimate greg idea but i'm still impressed you managed to fit so much on that one body! Also a pretty funny take away trade off. * VERY CLEVER celestapien idea! I was Gawking hard at the idea at first only for Greg to be forced to be at the mercy of the andromeda 5's vote was absolutely epic!!
The idea behind the last design is genuinely so funny that I kinda wished the show had went for that. Tho, then again we'd lose the Ultimate Kevin arc, so maybe not so much, but as an AU idea, that'd be hilarious.
As an Osmosian fan, I definitely liked everything in the video, the redesign of Aggregor to make him less human looking was very cool, obviously since Ash is great at fusions his amalgam redesign would be good. The literal Ultimate Aggregor was of course once again cool, I also do like how his trade off was no more Osmosian powers (along with no more staff) because it reminds me of how Kevin 11 gloated how he had 11 powers but never even used his Osmosian abilities. And God Lock is gotta be the best concept for if Aggregor absorbed the Celestial-Infant both in design and the concept of his Andromeda’s becoming the voices. Kinda gives me inspiration for my own Osmosian related stuff. And I am indeed surviving.
That last one is genius! That’s fantastic work, also if they actually did that in the show I’d love that because it would have been a perfect ending. Btw that orishan having 4 eyes a lot like the one I drew and showed to you was something that really got me excited. But now I realize I’m probably just stretching lol. Keep up the amazing work, keep surviving human
I’m excited to see what other villians you do next, a suggestion I think would be awesome would be maleware from Omni verse, cause I feel like if he was given an ultimate form he’d basically become an EGO like villain fused with hellstar remina from junji ito, a tech planet that continues to eat other planets to absorb and grow and kill everything
was literally going to suggest Malware, maybe after the rest of the story arc Breakdowns? Redesigning his various forms + a what-if scenario where he did become a living planet like he wanted to would be amazing
I hope O.R.Ash does more redesigns for Ben 10's villains. Also, does O.R.Ash no longer have legs now? That's my headcanon now; he gets around on top of a Horas. That's what he gets for taking everyone else's legs.
AWESOME!!!! I'm a Fusion lover myself so this is sick!!! Ultimate Aggronout (sorry, Overhelm) is an ABSOLUTE UNIT!!!! I hope you can redesign the evil Bens soon. Also, God Lock (dope name) will be such a ironic What If scenario. Maybe that's why Mother Celestialsapien wasn't worried because she knew the outcome (and Paradox doesn't, even more ironic) and would probably adopt God Lock.
The idea of Aggregor having to deal with all 5 aliens he absorbed once he absorbed the celestial sapiens is just a perfect idea for an ending. I would also like to add a possibilities for a millenniums into the future type of story where they had to raise the original celestial sapience baby, and therefore it would become an 8 waves debate with 2 teenager versions of Bellicus and Serena, and maybe Aggregor makes them believe they should support him, somehow.
I always loved the way the 5YL team handled Osmosians in Amalgaman. Something about the simplicity of it lends itself really well to the powers and the idea that they can become other things. Like, an Osmosian that looks like Amalgaman would start to appear more human if they absorbed energy from humans. Or in other words, Kevin being half Osmosian but still looking fully human makes perfect sense within this logic, so I like it. And all of this applies to your design for base Greg, so I approve. Sidenote: Greg's comment about being as invulnerable as Bivalvan's armor never bugged me. It's like the way we saw Kevin 11,000 use XLR8's speed even when not transformed. Or how Ultimate Ben 10,000 took on /some/ traits of the aliens he was using but mostly just emitted the powers out of his regular human body. Physical appearance =/= equal "powers", at least not always. Greg needed the Andromeda 5 powers to be able to get through the map piece defenses; if the powers were localized solely in the body parts that looked like them, they wouldn't be that effective.
When I saw that the Celestial Sapien form had the souls of both Greg and the Andromeda 5, it got me thinking, all of Alien X 3 personnalities represent something, Bellicus is aggression, Serena is compassion and Ben is reason, so I wondered what it would be for this "Aggregor X", and I imagined was: -Aggregor: voice of hate -Bivalvan: voice of pragmatism -Galapago: voice of wisdom -Pandor: voice of selfishness (or greed if you think that's better) -Andreus: voice of innocence -Ra'ad: voice of courage If you have better suggestion, I'm all ears.
Thank you for the Ambien. Thank you for this. This is amazing. I know it sounds outlandish, but I feel like you’re really pulled out everything for this one.
YES!!!! FINALLY!!!! AN ULTIMATE AGGREGOR VIDEO!!! THANK YOU, MR. INK TANK!!! 👍👍👍👏👏👏 Those two forms of Ultimate Aggregor based on your Five Ultimate Aliens he absorbed.... TOTALLY AMAZING!!!! Keep at it, also, you deserve a break.
Ok 1. Ive never hit the notification and like button that fast ever 2. These are SO COOL and at the end showing god locked i just heard a chuckle and in the back a faint scream (from greg of course) and i feel like that just makes it creepy and cool
this was such a fun epsiode. honestly really love the idea of not just doing redesgin to characters but also doing what ifs . seeing the ultimate fusion and the aliex x form were really fun and they looked great!! hope we get to see another episode like this again
That just looks so damn awesome! Like come on! You gotta admit this is cool! I seriously would have died from awesomeness if THAT is the design they went with when airing the episode! Plus would have been awesome seeing Pissed Humongasaur just wailing on this Behemoth out of rage and realize he didn't even leave a scratch or dent on the guy! Also question, is it bad that I wanna see this version of Aggregor fight Vilgax? 😅 Just wanna see those two titans throw hands with each other! Just for fun 😂
a Cohesive fusion for Aggregor's monster form FINALLY I personally HATED his orginal design so im SO happy with your Design also I love his Ultimate form and his Alien X form they both look amazing
I wasn’t expecting that last one. I don’t really have a favorite for this one, but I kinda see it like a Pokemon or Digimon line in which I kinda group them together, as the context of each form relative to one another is critical to my appreciation of them. I could see him getting mystery form 1 in a desperate move to defeat Ultimate Kevin, then proceed to actually manage to get his final form, only for the big twist to happen and end the arc with a Ben who feels like he failed, despite things working out in the end.
God-Locked is close enough to Ultimate Alien X for me. In all seriousness though, all of these designs turned out really good as usual. All of your designs from the Drawing Matrix are so inspired and well-thought-out. Not to mention the cutaways always make me chuckle. It's always a good time with these videos. Keep up the good work!
Please excuse me for being off-topic: Is it known exactly on what day in December Ben Tennyson and Gwen Tennyson were born? If you know, can you please tell me?
Don't get me wrong I live for the ultimate's overhauled sereis BUT THIS IS SOOOO REFRESHING TO SEEE!!! In general I really love the concept art videos, cause I got ideas but don't have the time to teach myself how to draw.....yet....Love the concept videos ASH!
One problem i think the show has that makes Aggregor somehow forgetable after his arc is gone is the fact that everybody acts as if nothing big happened. Ben keeps acting as the hero and has the "another day another slay" mentality , Kevin's extremelly important role is str8 up diminuated by Ben trying to kill him ( only thing that saves that part for me its the actually cool battle scnees and that Grandpa Max speech). My point is that , Vilgax left a mark . Albedo left a mark. Malware left a mark. Zskair definetly left a mark. Heck , even The Road Crew left a bigger mark on me that Greg. I really loved this arc of UAF , because i love fusions and the whole concept of Andromeda Aliens was cool af. The problem is that u have a decent villain ( a lil too generic but thats ok ) , which literally absorbs aliens and becomes *almost* a god ( not in the literal way ofc) and who beats the shit out of 2 Bens , only for Kevin to sacrifice his sanity to defeat him. Amazing moment , but what did the writer do after this? Well , just make it Alien Force season 3 and forget about Aggregor as if he didnt even existed. I got that they had to move on , but u cant tell me that such a dangerous character can be dumped to trash in 2 minutes and 14 seconds
He didn't need to be complicated, but other pure evil villain are just more interesting. Like Zs'skayr or OS Vilgax, they actually have interesting dynamics with ben and can be threatening without a repetitive plotline of swooping in after the heroes have already done all the work.
The overhelm looks so monstrous The uncleaver texture makes his body look so unstable like he’s struggling to maintain just body Also for his trade of I still believe that he would be able to absorb energy due to the parts of voltare and nucleaver but he wouldn’t be able to absorb matter or DNA anymore
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I love the New ultimate aggregor forms, i have the idea after making all classics/reboot ultimate forms of the aliens, make venomized/overkillized version of the aliens like with stinger OBLTR or ore.
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The idea of the Andromeda 5 becoming the other personalities Aggregor would have to debate with is so good
It makes me want them to do more with Ben 10 what if ideas
I need a universe where that happens
It would’ve been such a crazy but hilarious Deus Ex Machina…
Like the group watches in horror as Greg absorbs the Celestialsapien and cowers before it… But when Greg (in the mindscape) tries to move, he’s told from behind…
Bivalvan: “I’m sorry, but that requires a majority vote”
Greg freezes solid, as he turns to see the Andromeda Five. He calls this as a trick, but he can feel his body outside… Frozen in time. He can see the whole team looking back at him, when he sees Ben smirking.
As Aggregor tries to lash out, maybe ethereal chains form around him.
Bivalvan: “Denied”
Pandor: “Denied”
Galapagos: “Denied”
Andreus: “Andreus says No!”
Ra’ad: “Denied”
Bivalvan: “The vote is unanimous, we shall remain here”
Aggregor screams into the emptiness of the mindscape. While Ben, Gwen, Young Ben and Kevin inspect the body on the outside.
I don't it was purpose, but i like that the personalities have the color of the Infinity Stones, give them a better look that just green or red
yep
Real fans know the title should be "redesigning greg".
Into the Gregverse
I keep thinking of Steven universe dad XD
Greg's makeovers XD
Agreed
“Greg!!!”
Bivalvin: The Voice of Knowledge and Survival
Gallapagus: The Voice of Peace and Compassion
Andraus: The Voice of Loyalty and Simplicity
Pandor: The Voice of Stubbornness and Cunning
Raad: The Voice of Opportunity and Deceit
Aggragor: The voice of "Reason"
( *Who isn't even allowed to get a word in* )
@zarakkhan3242 , Andreas is also the Voice of Burritos, cuz he loves them so much
I can see them lock Aggregor in "indefinite amount of time" while slowing the time in his perspective down at first, just to make his torture went on eternally until they realize, they need to get out of here to reunite with their races so... All the voice attempts to reform him into at least more quotes on a decent person so he won't go and do the same thing to other aliens through approvals in some action that they deems "good enough"(yeah punishment and reward stuff). That would be the greatest punishment for him and it would do good for universe.
I can see it in the entire episode of everybody trying to separate alien X while having the internal conflict inside of god lock as fillers.
Aggregor: the voice of reason is pretty fucking funny
Aggregor: 'Breathes' Andromeda 5: NUH UH
Aggregor: what voice?
It would be funny if Greg actually got celestial sapian DNA only to become a cool statue. Every time he tries to say something all five just immediately go 'No'.
this is the moment that aggregore knew he fucked up
Greg:Can at lest I at lest get metaphorical drink?
Everyone:No!
I can imagine all 5 arguing amongst themselves, then Greg tries to make his opinion heard. The 5 stop, all look at each other for a moment before all turning back to him with a collective "NO!" before going back to their discussion.
@@wingedbluj1674 that how I imagine that all go. Anything he says is met with big No.
greg: can't you all say anything but no!?
(Had to. The magic conch episode came to mind from that comment)
Agreggor absorbing the Celestialsapien baby only to have the consciousness of the Andromeda Five lock him in stasis due to spite and never willing to agree on anything is like Jafar from the 1992 Aladdin movie wishing to become an all-powerful genie only to be forever imprisoned inside his own lamp.
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@@yannismorris4772 (wheezing intensifies) ha ha ha! why is that so funny
And since Agreggor is not a pure Celestialsapien, he can still die with no access to his powers, similar to how Return of Jafar (the Aladdin series pilot) established that an enslaved genie has their life bound to their lamp.
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Personally, I think giving Aggregor an amalgam form of all of the ultimate andromeda five aliens and a celestialsapien fusion is genius. It’s also genius that celestialsapien Aggregor now has the andromeda five to serve as his own Bellicus and Serena
except that wont be viable in the show paradox states that baby celestial sepians dont have the split consciousness, its just has one consciousness. so no aggregor wont be stuck in his god form. and that is why aggregor went for the baby in the first place
It would be an ironic and bittersweet ending, but fitting that Aggregor is now the one trapped. Locked away in a prison of his own making, his hubris being his downfall as he gets EXACTLY what he wanted.
@@aryanvohra626 that's why it's a plot twist 10:03
@@aryanvohra626pay attention to the video. Ash’s reasoning is that due to the entirety of the Andromeda 5 being absorbed, and when they return their personality are still there that means greg somehow contained their personality’s too.
This is a very possible thing that could have happened because we really dont know what happens when you fuse with celestialsapians. Maybe it would have been an 8 way debate if he absorbed a mature celestial.
Im sure gregs plan would have worked if he absorbed ONLY the baby, and dispelled the 5 when he was fusing but we will never really know.
@@aryanvohra626Dude, he explained that part...
What I found weird is that everyone acted as if Aggregor never existed. Kevin sacrificed his sanity to defeat him and Ben actually has the audacity to treat this as if he saved the universe for another time.
Ben was pretty agressive when hunting down Kevin. Where was that mindset when it comes to Aggregor or vilgax?
Imo Ben was trying to do things the "heroic" way while hunting Aggregor but every time he did he failed so when Kevin went insane I feel like Ben snapped a little and basically said, "Fuck it, this way isn't working I'm gonna start killing now." lol
It does remind me of moments when marvel and DC would have a reformed villain suddenly slide back into villainy after being on the heroic side for a long time.
It honestly feels more like Aggregor was a means to an end. That the actual main story was Kevin being evil again. And in the way of him “going crazy”. Not an introspective look into developed trauma or actual diagnoses. Rather, a literal mad with power situation.
@@narindraramdial8318on top of how hurt he may feel for Kevin’s betrayal and there prior history both with the stuff with classic and uaf
inconsistent writing thats it
I never understood how he defeated kevin so easy when he had absorved idk how many aliens yet Aggregor absorved just 5 and was such a problem.
All those designs are awesome, but I love godlocked.
It's this twisted Ironic downfall I love. Greg has all the Power he wanted-
But with more drawbacks than he originally thought for
Honestly, the whole "godlocked" idea seems like a more fitting ben 10 story than the ACTUAL one.
After all, most of the lessons in ben 10 are about responsibility with power, and how better to show this than to show the ultimate fate of one who is irresponsible with said power?
Other than Ben and the group actually doing a good amount of the legwork, Aggregor was one of the better Villains from the series. He was intelligent and planned out everything to the point he was basically invincible. Him being stuck with the Andromeda 5 as a Celestial Sapien would have been an awesome twist for the storyline.
I don't know if Greg hanging back so much was a hurdle to him being an effective villain, it kinda seems like just the opposite. If Galapagus's recollection was accurate, dude just showed up, absorbed his friend, gave his wind powers a spin, then kidnapped him like ten seconds later, throwing him into a cell with the other four captives. Aggregor clearly prefers putting in as little effort as is necessary with his plans. Thus, with them crashing on Earth, and this human superhero being so widely known that even the (seemingly) isolated Aldabra has heard of him, all he needed to do was sit back, wait for the only members of their species on the planet to cause trouble, let Ben subdue them to his satisfaction, then strike while they're alone. Very much a "work smarter" kind of guy, you know?
I love the ironic twist of the Celestialsapien DNA. The mental image of the other 5 just teaming up against Agregor and maybe just beating him up rather than just telling him "no" is funny to me.
I mean, Ben gets to keep his body in Alien X's mimdsxape, so I don't see why the A5 and Agregor wouldn't.
Godlock would have been the ideal outcome for the Ultimate Greg arc to end. Since I can just see the reaction everyone has to him just floating there unmoving to be something. As they would have assumed that he would have full control over the form before the realization that the Andromeda Five are also present. After all, their bodies weren't present after Greg absorbed their full power into himself. So the realization that their consciousnesses are there creating a 5v1 would be amazing.
Especially since Teen Ben would tell his younger self that it takes the majority of the personalities for celestalsapiens to do anything. Even saying that they should have realized that the five aliens were still alive, just buried deep inside of Greg's mind unable to do anything till now.
It would also be a great contrast to when Ben first turned into Alien X
As awesome as the concept is, I am sad that it implies that the Celestial baby died since its consciousness isn't shown...I don't like baby killers.
But ok, however when I remember they wouldn't have to Agree all to carry a motion, so you would have bunch of buthurt, broken, betrayed , traumatized, decisive personalitys in a celestialaspien body. Not exactly the better Alternative
@@bradleychan5684Don't worry. It didn't have a coniousness to lose since it hadn't developed one.
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It would have been a really fun twist for Greg to achieve his goal and have a ‘all is lost’ moment, only for him to hear a whisper:
“Silence personality:1(’Greg’)?”
“Mutual agreement!”
(Five "vote cast noises" from TF2 are heard)
(And thus, Greg was no more :3)
Greg: Finally absorbed the Adromida V and gained a huge boost in power
Greg, when he finally absorbed the Infant Celestialsapien: "YES! I AM NOW A GOD!! THE UNIVERSE IS NOW MINE!!"
Meanwhile the Adromida V: Imma end this man's whole career.
The Andromeda 5 all kicking Agregor while he's on the ground curled up is a hilarious image in my head.
Final episode of the Fusion Lab: Fusing all the leftovers legs into the Ultimate Kicking Machine
Are there really that many leftover legs? Wait, 90% of the time only arms are there, the legs are either just 1 pair with all of their traits or just a single trait.
The normal Aggregor redesign gives me Kraven the Hunter vibes honestly. The amalgam form redesign gives me Transformer vibes lol.
I feel like Godlocked takes one action before just locking Aggregor in place for all eternity, that being the five creating a system so that they each can essentially be given an avatar to interact with their friends and family from home once more. Due to side effects of them basically being immortal this would cycle a few times.
Agreggor succeding only to be locked into an eternal nightmare by his victims is a way better ending to to the arc than what we got.
But then we wouldn’t have gotten Ultimate Kevin
I love how Godlocked’s head is blank but his chest isn’t, showing off that Aggregor isn’t in control anymore
I always liked how omniverse had a color matching scheme for Kevin 11s frankenstine fusion
That amalgam form he had as a kid in OV is one of the best
I ADORE the idea of the Andromeda 5 being so pissed at Aggregor that even if he did fuse with the celestialsapian baby, they'd just never let him do anything or even move and just stay there until he defuses them all along with the baby
Fun fact: Aggregor was originally going to be voiced by Clancy Brown! Not only that, he was also supposed to return in Omniverse, within an early version of "The Rooters of All Evil". He would have sought out Kevin and revealed himself to be an experiment created by the Rooters to duplicate Kevin's powers, potentially with his memories being fabricated. Had the episode gone as planned, Aggregor would've died via his genetic code breaking down, essentially melting into a pile of goo. Derrick himself confirmed that the reason why Aggregor was excluded was because nobody was enthusiastic enough to do another story centering around him. The majority of the crew had worked on the first two seasons of Ultimate Alien, so none of them were in a hurry to bring him back.
That would’ve been cool but omniverse would’ve just fucked it up I feel like
On one hand it does sound like a sort of cool direction to take Aggregor, and would answer a tiny amount of questions on the rooters retcon, on the other I wasn't all that down to see him again either
Clancy Brown would of been op as Aggregor not as good as John but still
Clancy? Not a coincidence
The redesign of aggregor looks like Clancy, the insect villian from the episode "side effects" where Ben gets a cold and his aliens' powers change, like heatblast becomes freezeblast.
Glad they didn't go with this idea. It would have ruined even more of the previous lore that was established
I absolutely love Aggregor X. Reminds me of how Albedo accidentally defeats himself in the DS version of the Vilgax Attacks video game.
Godhood is a fool’s errand
Nice comparison
I shall turn into ALIEN X!
*turns into a useless ragdoll for a year*
greg: so what if we...
all 5 at the same time: no, you are stuck here forever
I feel like, for the What If idea, it'd mainly be Bivalan and P'andor arguing when the group isn't talking against Aggregor.
Meanwhile Andreas and Galapagus just talking, and Ra'ad just wanting to leave, but knowing he can't.
Your Celestialsapien Greg idea would have been such a great alternate ending to that arc.
As awesome as the concept is, I am sad that it implies that the Celestial baby died since its consciousness isn't shown...I don't like baby killers.
@@bradleychan5684 Very true and honestly I didn’t even think about that. Now I’m sad
9:48 I expect this to be the only compliment Ash will ever give to Atomix
I’ve always had a sweet spot for Aggregor
You mean Greg
Greg is a classic
Imagine if ray chase playe him
@@mrkaji8913who?
Honestly the aggregor x idea is fantastic. Would've made for a ridiculously good finally, I think
The only way to escape from God-Lock I see is that the Andromeda's aliens agree to strip him of his powers, returning him to the Mortal plane, weak and ready for capture. They are living beings after all, I think they don't want to be trapped forever.
I know that Celestialsapiens can do virtually anything but is “Becoming not a celestialsapien” included in that? Is that why outside of Ben, most Celestialsapiens have two personalities max? If there’s only two, they can’t get the majority vote to boot someone out?
@@yannismorris4772
1. If it is mandatory for all 6 voices to decide and Greg does not want to accept out of pure pride, that is not my problem.
2. I don't know the Celestialsapiens limits but I deduce that they could control Greg to release all of his power where it belongs.
I dunno...Such a decision needs a unanimous vote. I really think that at least one of them would decide to stay in the God-Lock form just out of sheer hatred and spite for Aggregor.
@@bradleychan5684 As I said, if everyone agrees, at least Pandor chooses to lock him up forever and Galapagus hand him over to the Plumbers. At least I can say that they're not celestial beings like Belicus and Serena, they're senntiens mortal beings, and being trapped for eternity is exhausting (look what happened to the prisoner Chamalien), so I guess they'll eventually agree to let him go. + recover their bodies.
Given Omniverse played the multiverse so much it’s literally in the series name, I’m surprised they never explored universes like what you’re kind of exploring of what if Greg won
Before video: ooof this'll be a hard sell for me, I've had a profound distaste for aggregor on every front, including both of his designs but I got faith in you ORASH!
After video:
* that base redesign has a good train of thought to it, even Id it still has Gregs less than desirable human basicness.
* YESS! The you really fixed the armor and face with the first amalgam form, and galapegus' finns are a wonderful tough too! Not to mention the blade horn!
* i am a bit overwhelmed but the ultimate greg idea but i'm still impressed you managed to fit so much on that one body! Also a pretty funny take away trade off.
* VERY CLEVER celestapien idea! I was Gawking hard at the idea at first only for Greg to be forced to be at the mercy of the andromeda 5's vote was absolutely epic!!
I hope you'll redesign Vilgax next cux he's really the true big bad for the Ben 10 lore
And he has more than a few alternate forms to play with! Vilgax...upgraded future form..that true form from the AF finale...malgax, Dagon vilgax
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 Yeah, but does the Alien X version of him or the Antitrix amalgamation from the reboot count?
@@BlazeThePhoenix2005eh, maybe! Personally wouldn't do much with it since it's unclear what reboot alien X can do to me but it's up to Ash i guess!
Orash, give vilgax a redesign, or maybe a redesign for Kevin's amalgam form(s).
@@timothyarunkannan1114I'd also like a redesign Kevin amalgam form
The idea behind the last design is genuinely so funny that I kinda wished the show had went for that.
Tho, then again we'd lose the Ultimate Kevin arc, so maybe not so much, but as an AU idea, that'd be hilarious.
Base form looks pretty good.
It looks like what aggregor would've been if he was in the OG series
@@ashuraomega1000the hood does kinda make him look like Clancy
1:17 That'd be a pretty.... interesting KOTH episode.
Hank: Yup
Dale: Yup
Boomhauer: Mmhn
Greg: Indeed
*explosion*
Greg: Hank Hill, I've come for your propane and propane accessories.
Hank: BWAHH!
“Please don’t call me ‘Slurpin Greg’” -Slurpin Greg, at some point
As an Osmosian fan, I definitely liked everything in the video, the redesign of Aggregor to make him less human looking was very cool, obviously since Ash is great at fusions his amalgam redesign would be good. The literal Ultimate Aggregor was of course once again cool, I also do like how his trade off was no more Osmosian powers (along with no more staff) because it reminds me of how Kevin 11 gloated how he had 11 powers but never even used his Osmosian abilities. And God Lock is gotta be the best concept for if Aggregor absorbed the Celestial-Infant both in design and the concept of his Andromeda’s becoming the voices. Kinda gives me inspiration for my own Osmosian related stuff. And I am indeed surviving.
Imagine if Ultimate Aggregor lost his legs. That’s kinda funny.
Also, can’t wait for the next mystery episode.
2:31 Ahh yes, the Doug Judy “Slurp-Slurp” sound effect.
That last one is genius! That’s fantastic work, also if they actually did that in the show I’d love that because it would have been a perfect ending.
Btw that orishan having 4 eyes a lot like the one I drew and showed to you was something that really got me excited.
But now I realize I’m probably just stretching lol. Keep up the amazing work, keep surviving human
I’m excited to see what other villians you do next, a suggestion I think would be awesome would be maleware from Omni verse, cause I feel like if he was given an ultimate form he’d basically become an EGO like villain fused with hellstar remina from junji ito, a tech planet that continues to eat other planets to absorb and grow and kill everything
was literally going to suggest Malware, maybe after the rest of the story arc Breakdowns? Redesigning his various forms + a what-if scenario where he did become a living planet like he wanted to would be amazing
I hope O.R.Ash does more redesigns for Ben 10's villains. Also, does O.R.Ash no longer have legs now? That's my headcanon now; he gets around on top of a Horas. That's what he gets for taking everyone else's legs.
Godlocked is my favorite of these four redesigns, not only because I love that cosmic look, but of how ironic the concept is.
AWESOME!!!! I'm a Fusion lover myself so this is sick!!! Ultimate Aggronout (sorry, Overhelm) is an ABSOLUTE UNIT!!!!
I hope you can redesign the evil Bens soon.
Also, God Lock (dope name) will be such a ironic What If scenario. Maybe that's why Mother Celestialsapien wasn't worried because she knew the outcome (and Paradox doesn't, even more ironic) and would probably adopt God Lock.
I'd like to see a 5 way Franken fusion for kevin
The idea of Aggregor having to deal with all 5 aliens he absorbed once he absorbed the celestial sapiens is just a perfect idea for an ending.
I would also like to add a possibilities for a millenniums into the future type of story where they had to raise the original celestial sapience baby, and therefore it would become an 8 waves debate with 2 teenager versions of Bellicus and Serena, and maybe Aggregor makes them believe they should support him, somehow.
11:20 okay THAT would've been an insane ending to the Greg arc if that's what happened.
love the idea of all 5 of the aliens he absorbed screaming "SHUT UP GREG!" every time they vote on something.
I always loved the way the 5YL team handled Osmosians in Amalgaman. Something about the simplicity of it lends itself really well to the powers and the idea that they can become other things. Like, an Osmosian that looks like Amalgaman would start to appear more human if they absorbed energy from humans. Or in other words, Kevin being half Osmosian but still looking fully human makes perfect sense within this logic, so I like it. And all of this applies to your design for base Greg, so I approve.
Sidenote: Greg's comment about being as invulnerable as Bivalvan's armor never bugged me. It's like the way we saw Kevin 11,000 use XLR8's speed even when not transformed. Or how Ultimate Ben 10,000 took on /some/ traits of the aliens he was using but mostly just emitted the powers out of his regular human body. Physical appearance =/= equal "powers", at least not always. Greg needed the Andromeda 5 powers to be able to get through the map piece defenses; if the powers were localized solely in the body parts that looked like them, they wouldn't be that effective.
this is so cool :) i love the creativity and thought process, easily one of my favorites of the redesigns by far
1:06 balding dude with pointy nipples lol
When I saw that the Celestial Sapien form had the souls of both Greg and the Andromeda 5, it got me thinking, all of Alien X 3 personnalities represent something, Bellicus is aggression, Serena is compassion and Ben is reason, so I wondered what it would be for this "Aggregor X", and I imagined was:
-Aggregor: voice of hate
-Bivalvan: voice of pragmatism
-Galapago: voice of wisdom
-Pandor: voice of selfishness (or greed if you think that's better)
-Andreus: voice of innocence
-Ra'ad: voice of courage
If you have better suggestion, I'm all ears.
You could parallel them to the seven deadly sins, like what Fullmetal alchemist did
Call Pandor the voice of ego. He seems to be brimming with it.
@@mrkaji8913 I wouldn't be able to give sins to being as innocent as Andreus and Galapagos; those two are just too nice.
@@bosskaiju4834 okay, then they could be reversed sins or something that is the opposite to a sin
@@mrkaji8913 If you have examples, I'm all ears.
Greg!!!
I find your content really entertaining you got my support!
Thank you for the Ambien. Thank you for this. This is amazing. I know it sounds outlandish, but I feel like you’re really pulled out everything for this one.
Kuro was having too much fun with the editing on this one 😂
YES!!!! FINALLY!!!! AN ULTIMATE AGGREGOR VIDEO!!! THANK YOU, MR. INK TANK!!! 👍👍👍👏👏👏
Those two forms of Ultimate Aggregor based on your Five Ultimate Aliens he absorbed.... TOTALLY AMAZING!!!! Keep at it, also, you deserve a break.
O.R.Ash I love you man you are a huge artist/writer/designer inspiration, and none of your vids disappoint, i can see the love put into them.
Congrats on 500k!! 🎉🎉
I hope to see more redesign videos like this
Have I see you begging?
Now this is an awesome video idea. I loved each outcome. 10/10 approved 👍
Ok 1. Ive never hit the notification and like button that fast ever 2. These are SO COOL and at the end showing god locked i just heard a chuckle and in the back a faint scream (from greg of course) and i feel like that just makes it creepy and cool
this was such a fun epsiode. honestly really love the idea of not just doing redesgin to characters but also doing what ifs . seeing the ultimate fusion and the aliex x form were really fun and they looked great!! hope we get to see another episode like this again
I like the redesign of aggregor's amalgam form and the ultimate is sick as hell 😊
That just looks so damn awesome! Like come on! You gotta admit this is cool! I seriously would have died from awesomeness if THAT is the design they went with when airing the episode! Plus would have been awesome seeing Pissed Humongasaur just wailing on this Behemoth out of rage and realize he didn't even leave a scratch or dent on the guy! Also question, is it bad that I wanna see this version of Aggregor fight Vilgax? 😅 Just wanna see those two titans throw hands with each other! Just for fun 😂
Ash, congratulations you did an amazing job on these Aggregor redesigns. Just fantastic stuff. :)
Woow a very good job on your designs for Greg's base and amalgam forms, Ash also I would recommend redesigning Captain Nemesis/Overlord and Rojo.
Good looking designs,but I feel bad just imagining the pain it would be to animate them
Imagine if they got sunrise or studio bones to animates them
a Cohesive fusion for Aggregor's monster form FINALLY I personally HATED his orginal design so im SO happy with your Design
also I love his Ultimate form and his Alien X form they both look amazing
Congrats on 500k I hope you grow more😊
The redesigns are all awesome, keep up the good work and good content.
I wasn’t expecting that last one. I don’t really have a favorite for this one, but I kinda see it like a Pokemon or Digimon line in which I kinda group them together, as the context of each form relative to one another is critical to my appreciation of them. I could see him getting mystery form 1 in a desperate move to defeat Ultimate Kevin, then proceed to actually manage to get his final form, only for the big twist to happen and end the arc with a Ben who feels like he failed, despite things working out in the end.
The amalgam Greg redesign is phenomenal
Grats on 500k fellas,
Also godlocked is such a good design visually and ability wise
God-Locked is close enough to Ultimate Alien X for me.
In all seriousness though, all of these designs turned out really good as usual. All of your designs from the Drawing Matrix are so inspired and well-thought-out. Not to mention the cutaways always make me chuckle. It's always a good time with these videos.
Keep up the good work!
Please excuse me for being off-topic: Is it known exactly on what day in December Ben Tennyson and Gwen Tennyson were born? If you know, can you please tell me?
Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving.
You too fam
Great work ORAsh! In my own sketches I've also essentially combined Ragnarok with Aggregor.
Greg: we have the same va
This effort and work that you put in, love it❤
Great video 👍🔝
Don't get me wrong I live for the ultimate's overhauled sereis BUT THIS IS SOOOO REFRESHING TO SEEE!!! In general I really love the concept art videos, cause I got ideas but don't have the time to teach myself how to draw.....yet....Love the concept videos ASH!
Ok. This episode was very fun. You should have a mini series of just redesigning Ben's villians. You'd print views that way
I like all the designs in the video. Nice job O.R. Ash.
Redesigning Greg eh? Let's do this. And I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving.
Damn that ultimate tho. What a UNIT
Well done guys on 500K. You all deserve it. Content from this channel is always a gift👍
Congrats on 500k🎉🎉🎉
These designs would break the animators' minds by simply existing.
A more "animator friendly" design would be pretty cool.
You’re not wrong, but the best thing is they’re not being animated.
Awesome 😎 keep it up
Wow, these are some fantastic designs!
Congrats on 500k
One problem i think the show has that makes Aggregor somehow forgetable after his arc is gone is the fact that everybody acts as if nothing big happened. Ben keeps acting as the hero and has the "another day another slay" mentality , Kevin's extremelly important role is str8 up diminuated by Ben trying to kill him ( only thing that saves that part for me its the actually cool battle scnees and that Grandpa Max speech). My point is that , Vilgax left a mark . Albedo left a mark. Malware left a mark. Zskair definetly left a mark. Heck , even The Road Crew left a bigger mark on me that Greg. I really loved this arc of UAF , because i love fusions and the whole concept of Andromeda Aliens was cool af. The problem is that u have a decent villain ( a lil too generic but thats ok ) , which literally absorbs aliens and becomes *almost* a god ( not in the literal way ofc) and who beats the shit out of 2 Bens , only for Kevin to sacrifice his sanity to defeat him. Amazing moment , but what did the writer do after this? Well , just make it Alien Force season 3 and forget about Aggregor as if he didnt even existed. I got that they had to move on , but u cant tell me that such a dangerous character can be dumped to trash in 2 minutes and 14 seconds
Hot take Greg was one of the better villains. I don’t want a complicated villain but great force of evil for our hero to fight.
He didn't need to be complicated, but other pure evil villain are just more interesting. Like Zs'skayr or OS Vilgax, they actually have interesting dynamics with ben and can be threatening without a repetitive plotline of swooping in after the heroes have already done all the work.
I love these redesigns, and I would love to see other type of designs or redesigns for aliens or any characters
Oof Greg, he tried to take ultimate power but instead got the Albedo X treatment.
I always thought greg was a bit inspired by darth maul with the horns and staff weapon, and your redesign of his base form really elevated that.
Make him lose *his* legs just like Darth Maul
Pretty cool video to see after coming back from a trip to the UK!
The overhelm looks so monstrous
The uncleaver texture makes his body look so unstable like he’s struggling to maintain just body
Also for his trade of I still believe that he would be able to absorb energy due to the parts of voltare and nucleaver but he wouldn’t be able to absorb matter or DNA anymore
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