Ruger Mini 30 Premium Ammo Accuracy Shootout!
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Brass Cases Matter! Mark runs several brands of Brass cased 7.62x39 ammo through the Ruger Mini-30 in a quest for the best group.
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I have personally observed a gentleman at our club shoot one and one quarter inch three shot groups at one hundred yards and upon questioning him, he being a reloader, he stated that the seating depth of the bullet was critical in achieving it.
The variance between the ammo types leads me to conclude something is wrong with that particular rifle. When shooting the same bullet weight with roughly the same muzzle velocity, I have never seen such a shift in the point of impact in any rifle I own, including my Mini 30. No doubt hand loads carefully developed can improve accuracy, that also seems true of any firearm, but something particular to this Mini 30 is causing a spread that cannot be explained purely by the different ammo types.
I don't understand all the issues people are having with the Mini 30. I've bought my second one two weeks ago, and this is the first 20 rounds from the first magazine. All I did was run a bore snake down it first. Ammo is WWB from Walmart, range is 75 yards, using a 0X Mepro21 Gen 1 reflex optic. I really think most of the issues people are having are the fact they can't shoot to begin with. The first 10 shots were left by 4 inches, with an outside spread of 2". With a warm (very warm) barrel and an adjustment to the optic, my groups were all in the 10 ring (2"x4") with one flier at the edge of the 9/10 ring. Group spread was 3 inches, which leads me to believe the issues are barrel temp. My older Mini 30 responds the exact same way.
The problem people have is they shoot junk (steel cased) ammo made for junk guns(AK's, and they're all junk!) Ruger specifically instructs you to shoot only American manufactured brass cased saami spec ammunition from them. The reason being that it's not some Russian or Chinese (or any other shithole 3rd world country) manufactured junk!
I don't know man. Hickock45 made some excellent shots with different kinds of ammo and no scope while standing.
And a shorter barrel, too 😂
I think his gong is ~200 yards if I’m not mistaken 🤔
I'm feeling real good about my Type 56 SKS at the moment.
There is nothing wrong with this rifle. The last groups with the Hornady ammo prove it. Some folks maybe envious and can try to badmouth it but the Mini Thirty's popularity is not an accident.
Are you sure it's that popular of a rifle? I didn't think it ever sold that well.
@@Sugarsail1 I have 2, wood/blue and stainless/composite. I shoot Tula, HP is a little better shooting. I've never had either of these problems and love them, both. I really like 7.62 x 39 a lot better than .223. Hits hard and penetrates. I use .308 AR-10 and HK 91 for everything else. Two .308 bolts, too.
@@jmsbwr I have a Mini 14 before they went to the thicker barrel and it's a PoS but I did a lot of mods to it and got it to shoot pretty nice now. Thinking about getting a Mini 30 because I don't own any 7.62 x 39 firearms and I do like the ergonomics and reliability of the Mini platform. It's also CA legal and I'm in CA but after my experience with my Mini 14 I'm super skeptical about accuracy. Thanks for your experienced input.
The Mini 30 is bad mouthed because it's not an AK47, the Mini 14 is bad mouthed for not being an AR15, meanwhile thousands of satisfied owners could care less.
Finding the best ammo for a particular rifle is always an arduous process.
Certainly at the moment, where you are lucky if you can buy one brand/bullet weight etc. let alone a selection.
got a mini 30 on layaway. cant wait to take it out shooting.
Not only do you check ammo group sizes by brands, you MUST change shooters to double check groups size to remove any shooter flinch after 15 plus rounds fired
This rifle wasnt made to put a scope on it and shoot long distance. Its a ranch rifle, you throw it in the truck and shoot coyotes and woodchucks with it. If you take a ranch rifle and hold it to higher standards its obviously going to look like a bad rifle.
The Ranch Rifle is different the regular mini BECAUSE of scope mounts.
I’m not sure what kind of ranches you have been on, but it is a regular occurrence to engage coyotes at distance here.
they don't even make non-ranch versions now (non scope mount).
Actually the "ranch" version of these rifles is defined by its cast in place scope mounts. So yes it was made to put a scope on it.
I like the set-up that you have on your Mini 30 and would do something like that too. It was really disappointing to see the results of the earlier tests and at one point I didn't expect to see better results. The Zombie ammo proved to be decent enough for hunting applications. Glad it worked out.
I have an older Mini-30 (bought in the 70's). I have added an Accu Strut to it. With me, I average a consistent 2" group (or less). I have found that the Hornady Black SST and the Winchester Power Point work best in my rifle. I haven't tried the Zombie Max though. I may check it out. But the Power Point and the SST suit me, and my rifle, well enough to stick with either of them. No malfunctions and good enough for deer hunting in the area I hunt where all shots are 100 yds. or less.
This brings back a lot of bad memories. I had an earlier model Mini30 and the best group I ever got was 3” at 50 yds. That was only after a ton of handload testing. Average groups with good .308 diameter bullets in handloads was 6”-8” at 50 yds. Combloc ammo at the time (early 90s) had trouble hitting a 12”x12” target at 50.
I ended up selling it $350 and bought a new Chinese SKS ($100) that shot 2-3” groups at 100 yds with Combloc ammo.
I really don’t think anyone could deliberately make such an inaccurate rifle if they tried.
Ruger Mini-14 and Mini-30……great concepts horribly executed.
I won't be trading my SKS off for one of these regardless of the ammo used. Pitiful.
Probably because you're using .308 diameter bullets instead of. 310
That’s a $900 plus shitty design. If Ruger would accurize them they would sell like hot cakes
@@Pays2Win About once a year I submit a request to the CEO. He asks for input on ideas et al. Every time I tell him Ruger needs to make a real replica of the M14. They already have the major basics in production so they'd just have to change the barrel , the gas block and the stock. The gas block/barrel system NEEDS a redesign according to the top tier smiths who worked with me at a busy LGS.
If they made a M14 mini replica they'd be backordered for a long time.
I still have a G/B police/military but haven't shot it. I think it looks neat although that skinny barrel with the built-in flex hinge for the gas block makes me imagine how wide the group.
@@Baltic_Hammer6162 I think it just comes down to money. I love the looks, the feel, the action. I know it’s a quality weapon and it has its niche. I can spend 500 on a grade A SKS and get similar if not better accuracy. That’s my problem with it. If money was no option I’d pick up a mini 30 tomorrow. If it was consistently at 1.5 - 2.5 MOA I’d be more inclined to spend the money.
I've never had an issue with steel ammo in my Mini-30 (583 series) shooting WPA (Wolf) 125 gr SP Polyformance.
Ditto with my 584, and good accuracy too with the steel cased ammo. Only Tula has ever had an FTF, once in about 30 rounds, but that is my least favorite ammo.
@@fiveowaf454 Yup
Thanks. Love Ruger firearms. Mini 14 is a great gun. The (for whatever reason) mini 30 just can't make the grade, esp for the $ they ask. Hate to say if you want to shoot 39 steel cheap ammo, Tula,wolf etc get an AK or variant. A 30 30 American rifle has similar ballistics, better deer rifle. I own many Rugers, great guns, some not so great.✌
It's a mini. It's not a tack driver. Yes the minute of pie plate is absolutely true. Yes it's also my favorite rifle
Best solution to the accuracy problem? Different rifle. The mini 30 has always achieved boat anchor status at best.
And how much does that cost?
Not sure if we are watching the same video but he did get off three, 3shot groups in the 2inch MOA range with the v-max ammo.
Jim Miller My mini 30 after installing an accu rod went from 2.5 MOA to 1.5 MOA. The bigger issue is the firing pin is .020" too shallow to reliably strike Berdian primers.
wanna stand at 300 yds whilst i poke at ya with my boat anchor? hell...i'll even give ya 400!
Robert, that sounds likes the ruger 10/22 solution to accuracy. "Buy a 10/22, replace barrel, stock, trigger and you too can achieve the same accuracy as any other stock rifle right out of the box"
So far , my rifle likes my reloads the best.
Sierra 125gr. HP/FN in .308
It groups nicely at 50 yds. using just the peep sight.
I haven't had it that long to shoot out to 100yds. yet.
Store bought brands shoot well also. My rifle is 585 series.
I Love it 😄
I considered a mini 30 for a minute. I'm sure glad that thought passed.
guess im lucky mine shoots great .older gun but does the job
Feeling real good about my SKS now!
I've got a few , just threw together a non matching bunch of parts on a pawnshop barreled receiver , gave it a crown job , checked head space and took her to the range. SKS's just run anything. It's a good 2-3 moa gun with irons at 100. It's a late run pinned barrel too . Nothing too pretty , but runs so good .
Pop need a new shooter to do the shooting
If that was me I would buy a box of rocks.
really enjoy watching you guys. I have a Saiga, put a 2moa red dot, three round groups at 100 yards off bags (16inch bbl) used the Midwest low mount, largest group with Hornady polymer tip , 2 inches, average 1.75 inch, go figure
My Mini 30 584 series will shoot better than most of the Brass here with steel cased ammo. Silver Bear ammo works well in mine, no issues with any steel cased ammo apart from Tula which has about a 1in 30 FTF. Mine shoots the various Barnaul produced steel case and Remington Corelokt to pretty much the same point of impact.
The Mini-30 is a decent rifle if you are willing to accept two limitations relative to an AK platform:
1. You are indeed limited to brass 7.62x39mm ammo, so you give up the operating cost advantage of steel case 7.62x39mm. Yes, you can mess with the hammer spring and even modify the firing pin to get better reliability with steel case, but that leads to voiding the warranty and possibly a broken firing pin that you now have pay to get fixed. So you really should just stick to brass ammo.
2. The OEM magazines are limited to 20-round capacity versus the 30-round capacity that is standard for AKs. Yes you can get aftermarket higher capacity mags for the Mini-30 but my understanding is that they tend to be of questionable reliability and quality. And then the Ruger mags are not only limited to 20 rounds, but are expensive compared with commonly available - and solidly reliable - steel AK mags.
As to accuracy, that seems to be a drawback that is inherent to the 7.62x39mm chambering, which is great variability from one brand to another.
I shoot both 5.56 ARs and 7.62x39mm AKs. With the AR, I have found that at least within 200 yards, POA vs. POI doesn’t shift hardly at all between brands as long as they are of comparable bullet weight; group sizes might but zero remains pretty consistent. However, with the 7.62x39mm AK, I also see big differences between brands to where even with the same bullet weights, if I switch brands and intend to shoot the new one a lot, I must re-zero my sight. I have only found one exception to this: Serbian Belom brand FMJ shoots about the same as Polish Mesko brand, though Mesko groups a little tighter. But if I go from either of these to anything else - Tula FMJ, Tula hollow point, Barnaul FMJ, Norma FMJ, - then re-zeroing is necessary.
Well, depending on how one measures accuracy and such this isnt bad. A lot of people do 3 shot groups, but as a whole I think 5 shows a bit better results. That being said though... Fiocchi, PMC, and Herters are not "premium" brands by any stretch. They may cost more than some of their steel counterparts, but not by much and often if only because they can be reloaded. Hornady is what I'd call "Premium" here... Look at those groups it put on paper. Yeah, they open up more as the Mini gets hotter, this seems to be a trait of all Mini's... But that is better than most AK's and definitely better than most SKS rifles despite what some would try to argue about them.
I shoot a lot of Fiocchi out of mine as it's cheap and readily available, and I get slightly tighter groups than you were getting at the same distance. But as a whole your groups were pretty well represent what it's capable of in the Mini platform. Which at worst... I've found the Mini when using cheap brass to be on par with AK's, and at worst when using steel to be on par with the SKS. But when using quality brass ammo like Hornady, Lapua, Federal, etc... It's accuacy levels outshine most AK's and every SKS I've ever seen.
When I did my testing I used Lapua as I had more than a few boxes stocked up. I was getting 1 1/4 MOA max out of a Mini-30 and that was from a field position. I dont use bench rests or anything for any of my guns, I either shoot free hand or prone in a field position. The best group I could squeeze out of an SKS with Lapua was about 3 MOA average, I had one that could get tighter but it had been worked on to be more accurate. AK's varies... but quality guns like Aresnal or Saiga rifles and other higher end AK's were capable of matching the Mini and possibly exceeding it.
But typical more common AK's like WASR's, Yugo N-PAP or O-PAP rifles, and things like that were shooting 2 1/4 to 2 3/4 MOA with that Lapua. So, while stuff like that Fiocchi and Herters may not be the best for say... hunting. For self defense either of those would do quite excellent. That PMC stuff is straight garbage in terms of performance, availability, and etc. It's just a load I'd avoid. Like you guys I installed the Wolff hammer spring kit for better results with steel, but I have to say... Golden Bear and Silver Bear seem to be getting me the best results in terms of accuracy, reliable ignition and extraction, and cost. Although the bi-metal bullets and stuff over time will wear out your barrel much quicker, which is typically why I just use Fiocchi.
I have always been a fan of the mini 14’s and mini 30’s. I have 5 mini 14’s that are accurate enough to hunt with and a mini 14 chambered in 6.8 that is very accurate. My mini 30 however, is another story. I’m lucky to get 3” groups at 50 yards, and that is with Hornady ammo. I have the same exact set up as they were using, a Nikon Prostaff 3-9. It is reliable but not accurate. Definitely not my go to deer rifle gun, but I keep it handy for anything else that might come sneaking into my yard.
My mini 30 shoots great, But mine has a .625 barrel its the same size all the way to muzzle, of course, the chamber area of the barrel is thicker, but it doesn't have a tapered barrel stayed .625 all the way and it doesn't have that cut in the barrel for the gas block like the ones i see its smooth all the way down and it is a 581 series i think it might be an early model 581 the ser# 02252 but it shoots 1 to 1.5 moa at 100 yards and makes no difference if its the 3 rd shot or the 50 th shot. I guess i got lucky because i wouldn't have one like the guy has on here, a slug shoots better than his or is it the shooter?
ive taken a bore with the 7.62 x 39 zombie max with a AR chambered in that round. Its pretty good
Congrats to Bob and Aero Precision for the manufacture of the year award!
I have a mini 30 old style. I shoot groups like that at 140 yards, using steel case Russian ammo. very seldom do I have a ftf with steel case
I am glad I went with .223 with my mini. In a sled I have gotten 1 moa with plinking ammo.
Go z-max ammo truly makes the difference
Holy moly! I wish I had watched this before ordering mine! I guess I can just stick to shooting railcars with it.
Glad to see hornady came in better than the rest I wonder 💭 if can reload it for better Accuracy
Thanks a lot for doing this for us!
Hornady ammo is very accurate out of anything I have shot it through!! 130gr SST is my fav reload for deer in 270wsm.👍
I have the new mini 30 and shoot 1inch groups at 75 yards.
I don’t think that the hammer spring addition is the “be all” answer to shooting steel case ammo. From what I’ve read & watched, the factory firing pin does not protrude far enough for that ammo because the primers are seated deeper in the case. I’ve seen after mark firing pins for the mini-30. It would be interesting if you guys could investigate that as I have a mini-30 and would like to know. I’m flirting with changing the firing pin but I can’t find enough info on it. I’ve not been impressed with the mini-30’s ability to take deer consistently. I shot a deer with mine at 100+yds in the brisket as it was looking at me. The bullet did not penetrate into the body cavity. It only blew out a lot of skin. I know because I able to get close enough after that shot to kill it with my shotgun & 00buckshot. That was with Winchester SP ammo. I think it stunned it enough so that it didn’t run far and I was able to get close enough to kill it. I shot at another deer at 30yds and apparently missed it but not to say I don’t miss but at 30yds is not likely broadside from a sitting position. So, for short story long, I haven’t hunted with it since. I love the gun because I like carbines and Ruger. Let us what you can dig up.
Are you ready to ditch this thing yet? I've gotten better groups out of AK's with random steel case stuffed mags.
8:43 and other landings seem the bullets are not hitting the target face vertically.
The bullets are slamming the paper sideways, not at their sharp point. Some hits have
clean round holes. What's the cause? Wind doesn't seems to contribute as the target
isn't wildly wavering. Is the slamming ammo's fault and nut the gun's?
Nothing wrong with this weapon, or steel case ammo. Have fired at least 500 rounds with 3 miss fires. Groups between 1 1/2 - 3”
nice test guys
I wonder what that Mini would do with the Hornady 7.62x39mm 123 Grain SST Steel Case hunting ammo (Box of 50).
If it does anything close to what that Hornady Z-Max with Brass cases did in groups, it would probably be the best "performance" value for 7.62x39
I know the nearest Cabelas and Academy usually has this in stock regularly.
I'm interested in seeing that, also.
They don't make the Hornady SST in the steel case any more. It's now a brass case and called the Hornady Black. Same bullet, different case. And they work very well in my old Mini-30. (Bought in the 70's and added an Accu Strut.)
I have the wolf spring also but like yours it still don't like golden tiger which should have the best group because its a boat tail bullet. My gunsmith worked my trigger pull down to 3.5 and then the groups got better.
This may sound silly but even with the rifle on a rest, wouldn't you still want to hold the front of the rifle? That 7.62 is a potent round and makes a lot of recoil. Without holding the front of the rifle, it will jump around every time you fire it causing the rounds to be all over the place.
Dusty151 The bullet leaves the barrel before the gun recoils. Search for high-speed videos of firearms being fired.
Dusty, Here's a cool vid that shows the time relationship of the bullet leaving the barrel and the rifle moving from recoil.
ruclips.net/video/eExKgyutOmQ/видео.html
John Perrotto Yes but it's trajectory is directly affected by the stability of the rifle. go shoot a light weight rifle like this and try both.
Are you kidding? The 30-30 is an ancient round, who shoots them, cowboys? The 7.61x39 won the Vietnam war, what war did the 30-30 win?
So, now we won't know how the rest of the experiment ends at 100 yards?
I bought 3 Russian SKS on sale for 150.00 each (Canadian). Each of them puts ammo it likes into 2 MOA. or better. Interestingly each likes a different brand of ammo. None shoots anywhere near as bad as the Ruger does with cheaper ammo.
Now I guess you guys can do a upgrade video turning the gas system down while tuning a load with the Mini 30 if you are serious about accuracy for hunting. Other wise it's just fine for what it was built for. But just like your wolff spring video, there is lot more you can do to squeeze a little more accuracy out of the rifle. Maybe try some 1911 shock buffers in the action. Trigger job wouldn't hurt either.
J. Huff Uhh, what was it built for, then?
have a mini 14 love it. been looking at the mini 30 but may get a zastava arms ak for shooting the 7.62. seems the brass 7.62 is not so readily available. id pose a question here, ak or mini 30 and why?? Have not purchased yet so I value all the gun folks opinions.....
So shooting for groups it's a good idea to constantly change your POA? I've had really good luck with PPU 123 gn RNSP which is odd because looking at the ammo itself you wouldn't think it would be that accurate.
So far my best paper puncher load is a 174 gr .311 Sierra match kings over 25 gr of bench Mark. In an old norinco sks.
Might need to sight in thest scope for the ammo your using.
Groups? How about measles?
This rifle is obviously not designed for bench rest shooting. Can you improve the accuracy by glassing the stock? Is there a aftermarket trigger assembly available for this rifle?
Kevin Walker 100 yards. Gains from bedding? Probably not. Aftermarket triggers? No.
My question is all the other rifles that can fire steel cased ammo, isn't that self defeating as those steel case users are depreciating their gun's barrel's that much faster? Any rifle or firearm I'd own, I would only want to fire brass anyway.
I can't believe that switching from one brand to another would make that difference,wow! I really don't think my mini 14 does that bad switching weight or brand.
Something is wrong with that particular rifle and setup. My Mini 30 shoots all the ammo I have tried to pretty much the same point of impact, that's 5 different steel cased variants and Remington Corelokt that is the only brass cased ammo I have. How they are getting those variations is beyond me. That doesn't compute that ammo types can cause that much variance. My Mini 14 is as consistent as you'd expect from any firearm with different ammo too.
@@fiveowaf454 had a hard time believing it also. For fun I sighted in a Daisy pump pellet gun with a Tasco $15.00 scope and getting inch and a half groups at seventy yards. None of his groups were even two inches I don't think. Camera man stated wild ejection pattern so maybe clean the gas block. Maybe mount the scope again. Something is wrong!
@@chrislang5659 Wild ejection pattern indicates something inconsistent going on. I put a scope on mine to get an idea of the rifle's accuracy, as opposed to what I can achieve with iron sights. I had it dialed in and then shots started going all over the place and I found the scope mounts had shot loose and the scope scope was about ready to fall off!! it was shooting about like this one :) I also found mine had at a 0.1" gas bushing in it, when the stock bushing is supposed to be 0.85 for the 18.5" barrel, so that didn't help regarding the beating the charging handle was giving the rifle, or keeping things tight. If something isn't working right, it makes sense to strip, clean and give every thing a once over, silly little things can often cause a lot of grief for the owner. Currently testing a 0.70 bushing.
@@fiveowaf454 what an amazing world we live in given the chance to share information like this with each other!
You can take it or leave it, but I have found that the brand always makes a difference. it's a hassle and can cost some $$$, but ALWAYS test various brands and loads in every rifle you buy. You will find that it makes a lot of difference. Once you find what works best (accuracy and dependability), STICK WITH IT.
Excellent video thanks
Good video. General comment. It's funny that with bolt rifles, all over youtube no one is surprised with poor accuracy with cheap ammo. Every also looks for ammo that works best, like you said. But then people use cheap ammo in the mini 30 and say it has poor accuracy?
If I remember correctly the mini 30’s have a bore that’s suited better for .308 cal bullets while most 7.63x39 ammo is loaded with .310 or .311 diameter bullets.
Not in recent history, you have to go back to the 80's for that period.
I had this same rifle years ago, never again. It’s cool as hell but it didn’t shoot worth a damn. $1200 rifle and 5” groups from decent ammo,.. hard pass.
Hahaha this is rediculous, this guy is a terrible shot nothing more. I have a new mini 30 tac and I can shoot 1 inch groups at 50 yards off hand steel sights, pretty sure I can do better then this with a scope. Oh and steel case Russian ammo.
If I am a Ruger exec, I am either paying you to take this video down make no other videos regarding the Mini 30 or I am sending you a new Mini 30 (gratis) that can group bulk ammo. Aside from the Z-Max, those weren't groups. There are paint ball guns that group better than that. I am not questioning your skills,just the quality of the rifle with premium ammo
Need an accurate semi auto 7.62x39?
Cmmg mutant nuff said
Is the mini closer to .308 or .310 bore? I've heard that a few US made 7.62x39s were closer to .308 as opposed to the .311 of the Ak and Sks
Mini 30's made before 1992 had 3.08 bores, after 1992 have .311.
I shoot 12 in groups at 150 yards with no bag or rest. Just leaning on a tree. 3×9 scope. Bought it in 1999only shoot Russian ammo also
Zeros in the rifle, then shoots the ammo he zeroed it in with, and can't hit to point of aim, which is what a zero is. So someone doesn't know what the hell they're doing lol.
Gee, $850 rifle and 6" groups? How sad. What a waste of $$ and ammo....... Then after 15 shots the hot BBL drupes and strings rds.
This is the worst rifle I own. I thought it would be an upgrade from the SKS only to finfd out it's much worse..Reloads, Steel, Brass..nothing works through this brick.
What's the rifle twist in the barrel
congratulations on finding something that actually shoots in the Mini 30!!!
Dude looks like Elmer Fudd.....lol
I have been following this series and until this last ammo I had the impression that the gun is a piece of crap when precision is concerned.
The last ammo was ok, barely.
Buy a target rifle if the 30 isn't accurate enough for you. The weapon is plenty accurate enough for its intended purpose.
Make a good boat anker had a minny 14 didnt toss it in the drink but some body else owns it
Sounds like Ruger can not make a accurate Mini.
That’s all disappointing. My post war M1 Garand with irons shoots DRAMATICALLY better than that mini with optics.
I’m sold. Not buying one.
.310 in a .311, 312 barrel won't be to accurate.
Verdict....the mini 30 still sucks for accuracy.
People keep trying with the mini 14. Just will not admit it is a piece of s .
No, brass cases don't matter. Tuning up the rifle matters: ruclips.net/video/MHoLRNNQ8mY/видео.html
OK, watched lots of vids on the Mini 30, and their accuracy sucks big-time. My SKS will destroy these things at 200 yards.
i like bear ammo
I've had similar disappointing experiences with the .223 version of this rifle even with a custom barrel. It sucks you in with what looks like a promising group with match ammo then "bam" shoots a flyer to make a crappy group. The gas system is very reliable but consists of a very heavy block on the op rod end that when in battery rests over a gas vent outlet that extends back from the gas just block below the barrel. My guess is that design is what kills accuracy this gun. M14s (M1As) and M1 carbines both gas piston guns don't have this issue and can be made to shoot pretty well.
I have a CZ 527 in 7.62 x 39. It shoots more accurately with the cheap steel stuff. Apparently the bullet diameter is slightly greater in the cheap steel imported ammo. I wonder if this would hold true with the Mini 30?
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Not very impress I have one of these rifles.
Man I think you’re just a really bad shot. No way the groups should be that spread apart
Of course you do.
There has to be something wrong with the rifle, there should not be that much variance between ammo types. I use the cheap ammo to get the sights on paper and close to a zero and then fine tune for the better quality ammo I use for hunting, the difference in point of impact for my Mini 30 is minimal between the 5 brands of ammo I have. No other rifle I own varies much either assuming the same bullet weight and approximate velocity, so there is something going on here that is not typical of a Mini 30, if that were the case, no one would be happy with their Mini 30, yet thousands are.
I had a Mini 30 for all of two weeks and got rid of it. Least accurate rifle I have ever owned. I will stick to my AR in 300BLK. I use only Hornady Vmax for hunting.
Junk rifle junk ammo had them in .223 and 7.62 x39 key word HAD sent them down the road never looked back.
Not Properly cited !!!
So in short, the gun is a piece of sh*t. Great. Nice job Ruger.
Discontinued.
TRhis guy needs to zero in his scope. It's not the gun or the ammo !!
Wow! Not impressed with this picky rifle. Wish I had kept my SKS, it shot good groups with russian ammo.
shouldn't mock you viewers. Almost clicked off in the first 10 seconds.
12ga is more accurate. I know it's not the shooter. Wow what a piece of garbage.
I guess another person who never shot a mini 30 before. some people just have no ideal
What piece of junk wow hunting with this would be inhuman on a deer a musket smooth bore would be better !!!! The M14 is a better option Ruger quality control on the M30 not up to expectation. This is not the only RUclips channel to come up with this same conclusion on the Mini 30!!!!
FFS!, The Mini 30 is the only firearm in the history of the world expected to run CRAP ammo! Get a life
The Russians, the Chinese, the Yugo’s, the Poles can all make SKS’s and AK’s that eat steel case 7.62x39 ammo like candy, but Ruger can’t?
Steel case is the STANDARD configuration for this ammo.
Get over yourself, the AR platform beat the the AK platform anyways, you are picking on the Mini 30 cause you cant be bothered to make it run on the ammo you want.Turns out there are two kinds of 7,62x39, Russian and American, and they arnt the same round. @@Firemountainoutdoorsreviews
Tym O'Byrne wrong.
Your wrong says right on the front page of Rugers Mini 30 manual to only use American ammo! If you cant afFord brass buy an AK.@@Firemountainoutdoorsreviews
Tym O'Byrne the largest appeal of buying a 7.62x39 rifle is the availability of cheap, imported ammo.
Ruger doesn’t say ‘hey.. this gun won’t shoot that ammo you have for your sks’ in any of their ads.. you have to find that out after you buy it. Or hear it from us.
That’s our point. 95% of the 7.62x39 ammo sold in this country is imported steel case... and this rifle doesn’t run that reliably and that’s stupid.
This is terrible accuracy! I was considering buying a Mini 30, but not now after watching this video.
Wolf, herters are shit ammo
My God this guy can't Shoot.