The second theme, first movement, is one of the saddest in the entire literature. Vierne led a tragic life, and this work, beautiful as it is, reflects that.
@@olla-vogala4090 I guess this quintet is somewhat less accessible than Franck's one, with that almost serial theme and with some very hardcore harmonies
@@arturdankovsky8293I have and I find also a little weaker. What do you like about it so much? Granted, it's the only one of the six that I have not played myself.
He hides dissonance in the midst of melody that has unexpectedly turns but opens your mind for creativity, in that it creates so many expected paths for change and development, then breaks it and develops perfect harmony. It’s like beauty through the mist, and it’s amazing
A lot of people feel sadness and despair in this masterpiece. Personally, of course there's a dark inspiration due to the circumstances. But also, I feel a real romantic breath, something from life and resilience. Vierne pushed through the pain and has built a heroic piece, full of lyricism. He particularly uses in this piece all the expressivity of french late romantic harmony (I think of Franck and Dukas in particular). Great work indeed !
I've known this work for decades and it still tears me apart. The sheer bravery of the man, revealing so much grief and love, and trying to work through such intense emotions and memories, whilst keeping such a grip on form and motivic evolution... it's almost unbearable.
Monumental Tierno, trágico, angustioso,. Triunfal,. ,romántico,, translúcido,. Bestial,. Esta obra encierra la esencia total de la sensibilidad humana. Contrastante, Genial.
To be honest I may even prefer it to the Franck! Somehow it seems so much more tragic and emotional to me. I did quite enjoy the Koechlin one too, btw EDIT: Though many would call Franck Belgian rather than French :P. He did live and work in Paris most of his life, though, so I don't think it's wrong to call him French.
Koechlin's Quintet is for me the one best chamber pieces out there. It's so vast in scope and sound, and it has a uniquely serious and severe tone, unlike many of Koechlin's pieces; curiously the historical theme is similar to that of Vierne's, as both pieces were written as a consequence of WW1. Guillaume Lekeu's Piano+Strings works are quite unforgettable too, written on the steps of his teachers such as Franck and d'Indy.
@@MrNicks-gn8jc Good one! Yeah, there is resemblance. In both pieces you hear some Post-Wagnerian remnants. But which Romantic composer could not escape Wagner? Not even Debussy could escape Wagner!
@@jonathankraal1741 Chromaticism has been a modern music construct since Wagner.....and even before him in the World Tribal Musics.....and we still practice it today.
A truly symphonic quintet. I like the vast proportions Vierne used on this 'agitatedly' macabre' tone poem, an ambitious conception dedicated in memory of his son. It belongs to works of such a scope like eg. Chausson's Concert for piano, violind and SQ, Tchaikovsky's Piano trio, and why not, Elgar's Piano quintet. A constant anger runs throughout, sorrow, tension, resignation, and so on. A master piece quite deserved by his nature and music development.
I wasn't sure at first but I thought I recognized the name and had to look it up to be sure, back in the depths of my subconscious I thought I remembered this is the composer that wrote a a violin sonata for Ysaye and it turns out I remembered correctly. I have no doubt Ysaye was well aware of this and many other works by the composer and I think it's very likely he performed several of his creations with the composer at the piano.
Interesting: the first 4 bars consist of a 12 tone sequence that is almost (not quite: f sharp and g are duplicated, e and a are lacking) a true dodecaphonic one. It predates Schoenberg's first twelve tone works by 2 years. Dodecaphonic music did not arrive out of the blue (and was not the invention of just one or twocomposers), but was predated by a number of works, included this one. In this sad music, this tone sequence 'works' wonderfullly, which cannot (at least to my mind) always be said of the academic rigidity displayed in later works by some well known serialists.
You might have missed that the opening bars also omit the e flat and that the a flat is repeated as well :). I'm not sure if a passage like this would have influenced Schoenberg into writing a 12 tone row though. This four bar theme does not have any atonal tendencies for every note is treated in a functional tonal way: all the chromatic alterations resolve by half step within the scale of C minor thus creating a consonance - dissonance relationship within the hierarchy of a diatonic scale. A very early example of what Vierne is doing here has already written by J.S. Bach: Wohltemperierte Klavier Book I Fugue in B minor. The dux of this fugue features in this case ALL 12 tones (some of them recurring), but is completely tonal.
Of all the interesting and inspiring composers, some that I like (rachmaninoff, Scriabin rautavaara with exception) and others that I don’t (Schoenberg, Messian, Bach), I have to say this man is a true representation of genius, much like ravel and rachmaninoff. his execution is nearly flawless
I like the piece. It is not too conventional, and doesnt fail to deliver the story. Nevertheless there are some weak points in his compositional technique, for example very bizzare opening and it is sometimes too repetitive in the developing of the material. thanks for sharing
pidekar: I thought that the opening stated a psychological state that opened up throughout the first movement. So many times our first thoughts are fragmented. What a fine quintet!
Please watch this at the lowest quality only (144p) since it's just for the music, which is much more ecologically responsible than at a higher rate. Watching this at 240p (which is unnecessary for listening purposes), will increase the bandwith by double to almost tenfold! At 1080 the bandwith is augmented by a factor of 100! The use of digital technology accounts for 4% of the world's greenhouse gas emissions, as much as the emissions from the world's truck fleet. Of that, a BIG part comes from livestreaming videos, mainly 3 sources : RUclips, Netflix and porn. Let's enjoy this beautiful music by being aware and responsible, doing our little part in decreasing our carbon footprint and protecting this wonderful planet for the generations to come.
This is false due to basic video compression. Increasing the video quality will have an extremely minimal effect on bandwidth (if it has any perceivable effect that's because youtube videos actually compress audio more when you select a lower resolution)
A very dramatic piece, with a dark lyrism, inspired by ht death of his son during WW1. Concentration is absolute. A masterpiece.
Son and brother :(
The second theme, first movement, is one of the saddest in the entire literature. Vierne led a tragic life, and this work, beautiful as it is, reflects that.
+John Leistritz Yes it is so sad! I wonder why this quintet isn't more often played, like the Franck quintet.
I am possessed by the haunting music for all day long, it's so nice to hear someone also highlight the same passage.
@@olla-vogala4090 I guess this quintet is somewhat less accessible than Franck's one, with that almost serial theme and with some very hardcore harmonies
This is my favorite piano Quintet. It eclipses other favorites such as Medtner, Brahms, Dohnanyi and Dvorak.
Have you had the opportunity to listen to Franck's one? I'm curious about your opinion
@@arturdankovsky8293I have and I find also a little weaker. What do you like about it so much? Granted, it's the only one of the six that I have not played myself.
@@ItJamesIs Have you listened to F. Bridge Piano Quintet? One of my fav. quintets and music in general
He hides dissonance in the midst of melody that has unexpectedly turns but opens your mind for creativity, in that it creates so many expected paths for change and development, then breaks it and develops perfect harmony. It’s like beauty through the mist, and it’s amazing
A lot of people feel sadness and despair in this masterpiece. Personally, of course there's a dark inspiration due to the circumstances. But also, I feel a real romantic breath, something from life and resilience. Vierne pushed through the pain and has built a heroic piece, full of lyricism. He particularly uses in this piece all the expressivity of french late romantic harmony (I think of Franck and Dukas in particular). Great work indeed !
So beautiful yet so very dark. As an organist I've played some of his music but this is such a dark piece
I've known this work for decades and it still tears me apart. The sheer bravery of the man, revealing so much grief and love, and trying to work through such intense emotions and memories, whilst keeping such a grip on form and motivic evolution... it's almost unbearable.
A work of unflagging depth and genius. I can't listen to anything else today.
Oeuvre magnifique et poignante
The amount of beauty and despair in this piece is uncanny. Masterpiece
Yeah I thought this guy was only great at writing for organ but this is… just holy shit!
one of the most existential works I've ever heard! and an excellent rendition! THX 4 sharing!
Absolutely staggering, profound, heartbreaking.
Monumental Tierno, trágico, angustioso,. Triunfal,. ,romántico,, translúcido,. Bestial,. Esta obra encierra la esencia total de la sensibilidad humana. Contrastante, Genial.
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With the possible exception of the Franck, this HAS to be the greatest of French piano quintets.
Don't forget Faure D minor, though it takes a few listens to like
So many, besides Fauré's, try Schmitt's, Le Flem's and Cras'
To be honest I may even prefer it to the Franck! Somehow it seems so much more tragic and emotional to me.
I did quite enjoy the Koechlin one too, btw
EDIT: Though many would call Franck Belgian rather than French :P. He did live and work in Paris most of his life, though, so I don't think it's wrong to call him French.
Koechlin's Quintet is for me the one best chamber pieces out there. It's so vast in scope and sound, and it has a uniquely serious and severe tone, unlike many of Koechlin's pieces; curiously the historical theme is similar to that of Vierne's, as both pieces were written as a consequence of WW1. Guillaume Lekeu's Piano+Strings works are quite unforgettable too, written on the steps of his teachers such as Franck and d'Indy.
...fortunately we haven't to decide but have them all...a GR8 time somehow...
why is this guy not as known as shostakovich, chopin, lizst, berlioz, mozart.. beats me
Extremely beautiful piano quintet. Most likely among my favorites. Reminds me of the Franck piano quintet.
Thanks for uploading!
+Jonathan Kraal Yes, it reminds me of Franck's piano quintet too!
Reminds me of the Concerto for Piano Sextet (sort of) by E. Chausson, just my ears
@@MrNicks-gn8jc Good one! Yeah, there is resemblance. In both pieces you hear some Post-Wagnerian remnants. But which Romantic composer could not escape Wagner? Not even Debussy could escape Wagner!
@@jonathankraal1741 Chromaticism has been a modern music construct since Wagner.....and even before him in the World Tribal Musics.....and we still practice it today.
So glad to have stumbled upon this piece.
A truly symphonic quintet. I like the vast proportions Vierne used on this 'agitatedly' macabre' tone poem, an ambitious conception dedicated in memory of his son. It belongs to works of such a scope like eg. Chausson's Concert for piano, violind and SQ, Tchaikovsky's Piano trio, and why not, Elgar's Piano quintet. A constant anger runs throughout, sorrow, tension, resignation, and so on. A master piece quite deserved by his nature and music development.
Przepiękne. Dziękuję.
Un des plus beaux quintettes
Le plus beau....
¡Fantástico quinteto! Gracias por compartir.
Astoundingly beautiful.
Oh, danke!
It's genius!
Very interesting!! I didn't know until today that he had composed a quintet 🙈
Magnifique quintette, si proche de celui de Franck. Mille mercis à Olla-Vogala pour la mise en ligne
I feel like this is everything Rachmaninoff could and should have been if he was more of a chamber music composer. An amazing piece of music.
very similar to eleqiaque suite no 2 by rach in many ways
I wasn't sure at first but I thought I recognized the name and had to look it up to be sure, back in the depths of my subconscious I thought I remembered this is the composer that wrote a a violin sonata for Ysaye and it turns out I remembered correctly. I have no doubt Ysaye was well aware of this and many other works by the composer and I think it's very likely he performed several of his creations with the composer at the piano.
+scottbos68 Yes Vierne is more remembered for his organ works and masses, but pieces like this show that he was more all-round than people think!
As were Franck and Bach and look at what they did ! I do not think Kempff wrote music but unless I'm mistaken he was trained as an organ player.
Interesting: the first 4 bars consist of a 12 tone sequence that is almost (not quite: f sharp and g are duplicated, e and a are lacking) a true dodecaphonic one. It predates Schoenberg's first twelve tone works by 2 years.
Dodecaphonic music did not arrive out of the blue (and was not the invention of just one or twocomposers), but was predated by a number of works, included this one.
In this sad music, this tone sequence 'works' wonderfullly, which cannot (at least to my mind) always be said of the academic rigidity displayed in later works by some well known serialists.
....sometimes in sad works it works....like the Piano Sonata Op.1 Berg.......where the 'rules' are not 'strict' :)
You might have missed that the opening bars also omit the e flat and that the a flat is repeated as well :). I'm not sure if a passage like this would have influenced Schoenberg into writing a 12 tone row though. This four bar theme does not have any atonal tendencies for every note is treated in a functional tonal way: all the chromatic alterations resolve by half step within the scale of C minor thus creating a consonance - dissonance relationship within the hierarchy of a diatonic scale.
A very early example of what Vierne is doing here has already written by J.S. Bach: Wohltemperierte Klavier Book I Fugue in B minor. The dux of this fugue features in this case ALL 12 tones (some of them recurring), but is completely tonal.
great
I came here via my search for Bloch's Piano Quintets. If you like this (which I also do) you will certainly like Bloch's!
The runs at 23:26 is genius
13:52 : Louis Vierne becomes Gabriel Vierne
11:38 sounds very shostakovichian, somewhat Prokofiev like, similar to rachmaninoff, maybe even ravel, beautiful
It's Vierne, well before all the other
@@orgue2999 yes I know I’m just pointing out the similarities
Wow. I know Vierne's organ works, but not his orchestral or piano works. This composition has bits of Ives and Franck, as seasoning.
Tant de tristesse dans cette composition. Tant de tristesse dans ce qui l'a inspiré. Plus jamais ça. J'espère mais n'y croit pas.
I am feeling some franck and prokofiev
Du contrepoint de bonne facture délesté de tous ses oripeaux... Salutaire retour aux sources...
Of all the interesting and inspiring composers, some that I like (rachmaninoff, Scriabin rautavaara with exception) and others that I don’t (Schoenberg, Messian, Bach), I have to say this man is a true representation of genius, much like ravel and rachmaninoff. his execution is nearly flawless
I like the piece. It is not too conventional, and doesnt fail to deliver the story. Nevertheless there are some weak points in his compositional technique, for example very bizzare opening and it is sometimes too repetitive in the developing of the material. thanks for sharing
pidekar: I thought that the opening stated a psychological state that opened up throughout the first movement. So many times our first thoughts are fragmented. What a fine quintet!
Please watch this at the lowest quality only (144p) since it's just for the music, which is much more ecologically responsible than at a higher rate. Watching this at 240p (which is unnecessary for listening purposes), will increase the bandwith by double to almost tenfold! At 1080 the bandwith is augmented by a factor of 100!
The use of digital technology accounts for 4% of the world's greenhouse gas emissions, as much as the emissions from the world's truck fleet. Of that, a BIG part comes from livestreaming videos, mainly 3 sources : RUclips, Netflix and porn.
Let's enjoy this beautiful music by being aware and responsible, doing our little part in decreasing our carbon footprint and protecting this wonderful planet for the generations to come.
This is false due to basic video compression. Increasing the video quality will have an extremely minimal effect on bandwidth (if it has any perceivable effect that's because youtube videos actually compress audio more when you select a lower resolution)
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