I love steam powered equipment and with today's technology a super efficient closed loop steam powered car is something I'd love to see, steam still has a place in the world. Great video, amazing to see a Doble with her clothes off!
Totally agree. Steam in someways is still a head of its time but left behind long before modern technology got to use it. For larger scaled vehicles including ships, trains and lorries we're mad to still be sucking heavy-diesel fuel only to be using 15-30% of what's actually combusted. The disadvantages that steam power had back then were that the water and fuel consumption was high at stop & starts, but they're also extremely heavy to slow down. A front drive electric motor and battery pack for energy recapture would be an optimal fit with its low speed high torque and efficiency, a match made in heaven for steam trucks/buses; not least because where electric vehicles fall is drawing high amps at sustained high speeds whereas these 1920s Dobles travel effortlessly at +60mph.
@@toyotaprius79Modern ship are powered by Diesel engines that are the most efficient combustion engines in history, some exceeding 55% thermal fuel efficiency... steam cannot come close...
@@sandervanderkammen9230 hahaha, mate... burning fuel is by far more thermal inefficient than electronically superheating water... even with the thermal inefficiency of burning a fuel to get superheated steam, that's is still by far more efficient than directly burning the fuel as with combustion engines, as superheated steam engines are by far powerful as its nothing but torque and far more efficient as it uses essentially up to 80 to 90% of the superheated steam... and if you add in electric heaters instead of burning a fuel... well... that's essentially 100% fuel efficiency.
This is the perfect car. Instant torque...rpm equal to that of a conventional engine...and 100% environmentally friendly. Its combustion is clean and does not require catalysts... or anything annoying today. A beauty of a machine.
You are very confused and misinformed. The Doble steam cars were the most expensive and unreliable cars in history. Barely 150 horsepower and torque drops with rpm increase. EPA test showed that the Doble boiler produced more pollution than an internal combustion cars tested in 1970. These cars spew out massive amounts on NOx emissions and have an absolutely appalling carbon footprints compared to modern ICE cars.
I'm sure the NoX emissions were really low even compared to a normal car; you're burning the fuel at ambient pressure instead of compressing it then injecting fuel
I'd actually be curious about that tbh. One the one hand like you say the combustion isn't in a pressurised environment, on the other hand very high temperatures do cause NoX to form too.
The amount of NOx can be altered by burning at a different temperature, and by using modern methods of engineering. Thats what I learn in college. I imagine there was zero care towards emissions back then
They could improve the boiler...by using injectors for the water. Instead of waiting for the water to boil and steam. They would have instant steam....without so much waiting.
Cars with these large battery packs like in teslas are becoming to be not as reliable as they intended especially in very cold winters, perhapse steam is the answer...
Steam cars can give much cleaner emissions than internal combustion engines.... furthermore their power plant can be adapted for home power ditching the grid and its criminal money making....
That's completely false, tests conducted by the EPA in 1970 show steam cars like the Doble not only produced extremely high levels of exhaust pollution but they have appalling fuel efficiency and CO2 emissions
@@sandervanderkammen9230 Really ? How trustworthy is any of that report ? Fact is that steam power, as an alternative power source for both automotive and independent home power generation is being suppressed
@@jandoerlidoe3412 Your comment reveals someone who clearly has no formal education or professional experience in engineering... and is completely unfamiliar with the Laws of Thermodynamics that severely limit the Rankine Cycles performance. Steam cars have been obsolete technology for over a century now because they simply cannot compete against superior internal combustion technology. Don't get me wrong, I think steam engines are absolutely fascinating and it's a great hobby if you have the enormous amounts of time and money to pursue it... but there is nothing practical or commercially viable about steam cars. Any questions?
@@sandervanderkammen9230 Nature needs CO2 for plant life....to say Co2 is bad is part of the Globalist Lies...But yes, internal combustion engines have a better efficiency.... Doble was in its days remarkable engineering - the internal combustion engines of its time where not so efficient either.....( low compression, side valve jobs... ) Apart from all that, around 2000 there was that German firm " Enginion "- a VW Subsidiary - who did develop the " steam cell " - a catalytic steam generator for combined home power / heat.... they also developed a 3 cylinder steam engine to power a car, that gave 150 BHP, and its boiler had a very clean exhaust.... the engine did feature ceramic liners and pistons to cope with the high steam temperature & pressure.....This was a working prototype with great Promise.... The Idea was to have it installed in a Skoda Fabia... making that a real modern steam car.... But then Angela Merkel did decide we did not need such a car.... Enginion does not exist anymore, and data of its products have disappeared from the net.... We could have cars with combustion engines that run on water, and that have no emission problems... but the technology is classified by the US for " national security reasons " .... Contrary to what you think, I do have expertise and experience in engineering.....
@@jandoerlidoe3412 I totally agree that CO2 is plant food and it's not causing damage to the environment. But HCs and NOx produced by steam cars is not healthy, ICEs are cleaner and better for the environment. The Doble was an absolutely amazing piece of engineering artwork... but it was also the most expensive car in the world and completely obsolete. That's completely false, in the late 1920s and early 30s practical ICEs were available in the 40% efficiency range, cost a mere fraction of the Doble and were an order of magnitude more reliable. The Jumo 203/204 was flying in aircraft in 1929 with +40% efficiency. The VW/Enginion scandal was very quietly swept under the rug and forgotten, it is not known how many millions of dollars were stolen from VW stockholders in this fraudulent vaporware investment scam but it is known now that the company completely fake. ICEs cannot run on water, you would be very gullible and niave to believe such ridiculous nonsense. That comment reveals someone who has no formal education or professional experience in engineering.
I love steam powered equipment and with today's technology a super efficient closed loop steam powered car is something I'd love to see, steam still has a place in the world. Great video, amazing to see a Doble with her clothes off!
Totally agree. Steam in someways is still a head of its time but left behind long before modern technology got to use it.
For larger scaled vehicles including ships, trains and lorries we're mad to still be sucking heavy-diesel fuel only to be using 15-30% of what's actually combusted. The disadvantages that steam power had back then were that the water and fuel consumption was high at stop & starts, but they're also extremely heavy to slow down. A front drive electric motor and battery pack for energy recapture would be an optimal fit with its low speed high torque and efficiency, a match made in heaven for steam trucks/buses; not least because where electric vehicles fall is drawing high amps at sustained high speeds whereas these 1920s Dobles travel effortlessly at +60mph.
You need to study engineering and Thermodynamics... and then rethink that comment.
@@toyotaprius79Modern ship are powered by Diesel engines that are the most efficient combustion engines in history, some exceeding 55% thermal fuel efficiency... steam cannot come close...
@@toyotaprius79Why would anyone combine steam with an electric vehicle concept??? That makes no logical sense!
@@sandervanderkammen9230 hahaha, mate... burning fuel is by far more thermal inefficient than electronically superheating water... even with the thermal inefficiency of burning a fuel to get superheated steam, that's is still by far more efficient than directly burning the fuel as with combustion engines, as superheated steam engines are by far powerful as its nothing but torque and far more efficient as it uses essentially up to 80 to 90% of the superheated steam... and if you add in electric heaters instead of burning a fuel... well... that's essentially 100% fuel efficiency.
This is the perfect car. Instant torque...rpm equal to that of a conventional engine...and 100% environmentally friendly.
Its combustion is clean and does not require catalysts... or anything annoying today. A beauty of a machine.
You are very confused and misinformed.
The Doble steam cars were the most expensive and unreliable cars in history.
Barely 150 horsepower and torque drops with rpm increase.
EPA test showed that the Doble boiler produced more pollution than an internal combustion cars tested in 1970.
These cars spew out massive amounts on NOx emissions and have an absolutely appalling carbon footprints compared to modern ICE cars.
The Doble steam car would not be legal to sell today in many places due to high emissions and fuel consumption.
I'm sure the NoX emissions were really low even compared to a normal car; you're burning the fuel at ambient pressure instead of compressing it then injecting fuel
the combustion is complete, burner temperature is 3000 celsius
I'd actually be curious about that tbh. One the one hand like you say the combustion isn't in a pressurised environment, on the other hand very high temperatures do cause NoX to form too.
The EPA tested the Doble boiler system on the GM SE-124 in 1970 and it had the highest emissions of HCs and NOx of any vehicle tested.
@@giovannifontanetto9604The Doble boiler produces staggeringly high levels of NOx emissions...
The amount of NOx can be altered by burning at a different temperature, and by using modern methods of engineering. Thats what I learn in college. I imagine there was zero care towards emissions back then
Hey John , do you have the plans for Doble? I wanna recreate it. nice video
Very good idea of brothers Doble
For sure steam power still has a place in the world. And you can use nuclear fission to heat up the water. Very clean energy.
Steam cars unfortunately only have one place in the world today... in museums.
@@sandervanderkammen9230you are working for shell oil
@@sssbznzn You do realize that steam cars run on oil, right?
The Doble is a real gas guzzler too 6.5 mpg on kerosene...
@@sandervanderkammen9230 lol why u all guys thinking about oil shy u dont have any alternative ??? Use electric
@@sssbznzn *who would be stupid enough to use electricity to boil water in a steam car???*
What was the numbers
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They could improve the boiler...by using injectors for the water.
Instead of waiting for the water to boil and steam. They would have instant steam....without so much waiting.
The Doble already has continous feedwater injection
The Doble has a monotube steam generator that only holds 1 liter of water at any given time.
Cars with these large battery packs like in teslas are becoming to be not as reliable as they intended especially in very cold winters, perhapse steam is the answer...
Where could I find one for sale? Are you selling this one?
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How much horse power it has
The Doble on agood day barely produces 150 hp...
Steam cars can give much cleaner emissions than internal combustion engines.... furthermore their power plant can be adapted for home power ditching the grid and its criminal money making....
That's completely false, tests conducted by the EPA in 1970 show steam cars like the Doble not only produced extremely high levels of exhaust pollution but they have appalling fuel efficiency and CO2 emissions
@@sandervanderkammen9230 Really ? How trustworthy is any of that report ? Fact is that steam power, as an alternative power source for both automotive and independent home power generation is being suppressed
@@jandoerlidoe3412 Your comment reveals someone who clearly has no formal education or professional experience in engineering... and is completely unfamiliar with the Laws of Thermodynamics that severely limit the Rankine Cycles performance.
Steam cars have been obsolete technology for over a century now because they simply cannot compete against superior internal combustion technology.
Don't get me wrong, I think steam engines are absolutely fascinating and it's a great hobby if you have the enormous amounts of time and money to pursue it... but there is nothing practical or commercially viable about steam cars.
Any questions?
@@sandervanderkammen9230 Nature needs CO2 for plant life....to say Co2 is bad is part of the Globalist Lies...But yes, internal combustion engines have a better efficiency.... Doble was in its days remarkable engineering - the internal combustion engines of its time where not so efficient either.....( low compression, side valve jobs... ) Apart from all that, around 2000 there was that German firm " Enginion "- a VW Subsidiary - who did develop the " steam cell " - a catalytic steam generator for combined home power / heat.... they also developed a 3 cylinder steam engine to power a car, that gave 150 BHP, and its boiler had a very clean exhaust.... the engine did feature ceramic liners and pistons to cope with the high steam temperature & pressure.....This was a working prototype with great Promise.... The Idea was to have it installed in a Skoda Fabia... making that a real modern steam car.... But then Angela Merkel did decide we did not need such a car....
Enginion does not exist anymore, and data of its products have disappeared from the net....
We could have cars with combustion engines that run on water, and that have no emission problems... but the technology is classified by the US for " national security reasons " ....
Contrary to what you think, I do have expertise and experience in engineering.....
@@jandoerlidoe3412 I totally agree that CO2 is plant food and it's not causing damage to the environment.
But HCs and NOx produced by steam cars is not healthy, ICEs are cleaner and better for the environment.
The Doble was an absolutely amazing piece of engineering artwork... but it was also the most expensive car in the world and completely obsolete.
That's completely false, in the late 1920s and early 30s practical ICEs were available in the 40% efficiency range, cost a mere fraction of the Doble and were an order of magnitude more reliable.
The Jumo 203/204 was flying in aircraft in 1929 with +40% efficiency.
The VW/Enginion scandal was very quietly swept under the rug and forgotten, it is not known how many millions of dollars were stolen from VW stockholders in this fraudulent vaporware investment scam but it is known now that the company completely fake.
ICEs cannot run on water, you would be very gullible and niave to believe such ridiculous nonsense.
That comment reveals someone who has no formal education or professional experience in engineering.