I play all shots with closed stance and swing the down line of my body with face square to target. Keep shoulders closed through impact. Result powerful, baby draws, and inside out shallow swing. Closed stance for all clubs gold.
Oh man what a revelation. I was ALWAYS told by instructors to line up my feet at the target, which then caused me to slice, and then instructors started manipulating my swing (which I HATED) and then I gave up. Beauty lesson, Shawn!
Ahh yes, the good old body part manipulations and trying to put the strings back onto Pinocchio; DISASTER!! Way to go man, stay on this channel, we got you! 👍👌🫶👊💪
Great video! The most important instructions for me happen at the 5:20 mark. The left foot needs to also move a little to maintain balance.Its such a comfortable and natural feeling.Interesting to see Hogan and Knudsen do this at address.”Do nothing in the golf swing at the expense of balance “said Knudsen.
Shawn, I'm 67 and will readily admit that I was skeptic # 1 when I first saw your vids on closing the clubface 2 or 3 degrees and using a neutral grip to produce a strong straight ball flight. I was fully expecting a hosel rocket smoking it left (I'm right handed ). I did this with a GW and was stoked as the ball went right down the line/reference point I'd selected. I'm hitting driver 300 (with carry) , 3 wood 270, GW 120/130, everything new and improved distance and line wise. Simply having the face square at address now provides about all the fade I need, and just adjusting my stance a bit to the left gives me a suitable draw. Thanks for relieving the stress of not knowing what I was doing correctly/ incorrectly. I've also gone to graphite shafts throughout the bag . Golf is fun again.
I change my set up to this diagonal stance about 3 months ago along with the strong grip about 3 yrs ago and I went from driving 230 yards max to drives now when I miss it it’s 230. When I hit it solid it is more like 240-275. The fun part is I’m just 68 years young playing my best golf ever. I regularly work out with weights for years. Ran into Sav and Moo at long drive contest in Kingsport. That was a Great privilege to see them and to know you and your program on RUclips. I have been following you and watching your techniques and practiced them for years. Thanks for exercising your gift as a teaching in golf. Your golf style has made my golf life amazingly exciting as a older man. My buddies complain all the time and saying nobody puts 30 yards on their drive at 68.😁😂🤣
Right on Rick! Will pass this on to Sav and Mu! Thank you for posting this awesome comment and appreciate the important feedback! have a great weekend!
Amazing when something instinctive works and because it does not follow the trends, you get comments and dirty looks; great to know the truth huh?! Feels so good to know you are on the right path! 👍💪👌🫶👊
Thanks Shawn! I’d also add this helped me transition from feet together drill on the range-to playing on the course with the diagonal stance. Good stuff.
You bet! We have a whole series on this as well as way more for power on our premium channel at wisdom in golf premium.com Check out all the “release” videos, the “kinetic chain facilitation and engagement series” and the “throwing series” just to name a few! The one in this video is called the “diagonal stance series”
I was on the range today and was just hitting 20 yard slices from my driver. I tried this diagonal stance because I thought it would let me swing IN to OUT more. It was dead straight. I alternated (to see if it was a fluke or not) between square and diagonal stance and it was always slice/straight/slice/straight. Unbelievable.
Good stuff there with the closed stance. This is a great pointer for those who are steep with their swing. Curious what driver you using and what shaft ? Keep up the great work Shawn !
Oh man, the Cobra Aerojet Low Spin 9 degree cranked down to 7.5 degrees with the Ventus Black Velocore 6s shaft; just had my PB last night with it at 170 MPH with a 319 carry!
Is a good way to think about it the Attack Angle you’re looking to deliver and the ball position you need to do so? The more up, the more the stance moves closed. The more down, the more the stance moves open.
Shawn, Just curious as you don't like but a few swing trainers . Martin Chucks Smart ball , your thoughts on it ? Would you say it is too restrictive in the real freedom of the swing ?
Hey Shaun. Where in the premium area are the videos you mention in the video? Having difficulty finding them… Also, signed up today. Looking forward to checking out all the great content. But, did want to give you a heads up to review the form you have people sign up with. Several of the fields have “optional” next to them (ie address) but the form won’t let you continue unless you put something in.
Thanks for the great feedback and yes, it’s called the diagonal stance series; which you will see is very complete! Let me know how you do in the comment section and I can keep pointing you to the videos you need to consult to get to your next levels! 💪👍😀
I feel like I get way more accuracy and power with an open stance/square shoulders… as I can use way more ground force specially on lead foot with parametric acceleration. I’m noticing the farthest hitter in history, Kyle Berkshire, uses open stance as well… and he’s the strongest advocate for parametric acceleration as he lifts off the ground. Open stance opens hip very early (great for faster swingers) and the lead foot open brakes the ground more effectively and lets the body open up to create even more vertical/horizontal force. I’m really intrigued by what a closed stance with square shoulders would do… but absolutely cannot do if it means losing even a little parametric acceleration off the lead knee. Any thoughts Shawn? All the best!
1. Your right foot gives a huge step back (2:45). The steps of your students are much smaller. I heard the right big toe should be in line with the end of your left shoe laces. 2. Are your shoulders still square to target or same line as your feet? 3. Does your clubhead still point at target? Thanks so much.
Hi Frans! In our premium channel at www.wisdomingolfpremium.com (only $9.95 per month, stay as long as you like) we have a VERY COMPLETE, VERY DETAILED DIAGONAL STANCE SERIES FOR ALL CLUBS FROM WEDGES TO THE DRIVER AND FOR FADES AND DRAWS; the most comprehensive series ever published in this game!!
I am 6 foot, in my 40's, train at the gym, pretty strong and struggle to get over 230 carry lately, I have had it over 270 carry (300 total) previously but seems to only be once in a blue moon and less lately. I use a Taylormade M6 10.5 driver on high setting (so more like a 12.5), my driver is always a fade or a big pull, never a draw, I try so hard to come from the inside, drop my hands, push tot eh right with a slightly closed face and close my stance but then it turns into a hook!?
Hey Matt! if you swing AT THE BALL, IT WILL HOOK; you want to swing THROUGH THE BALL AND INTO THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO START IT; THIS CHANGES THE FACE TO MORE OPEN. Out of the 200 top players in the world, 150 of them have a strong to a very strong grip which is the only way through the ball. See “most overlooked detail with Driver shawn clement”
Shawn, All your teaching is spot on great . But how about foot wear ? I am certain most out there playing do not even think it can and will hurt there body wearing most today's golf shoes and have been for years. Only two teachers I know one being you are telling it like it is about shoes and all this cushion, high arch support, hard high bottom etc etc . Why so many pros , not just a few wear cushion , high arch , and steel spikes for golf ? I think is about time to do a video on shoes for golf . One teacher has came out and said there is not one shoe company really doing golf it's justice in what is best for golf. I think it would be great to talk a bit about golf shoes if your against how they are made to not feel the ground and feet first is needed up the chain to feel the ground . Even golf shoes out there on the ground force plates show a golf manufacture shoes don't do much for the all important feet . Shoes Important ? Or Not Important ? I think that should be the title of a video .
The important thing about shoes is the purpose; the flatter the better; many of my students practice at the range in their running shoes that are high in the heel and low in the toe and designed for walking and running forward with little change in direction. A good golf shoe like the True Shoes we have been promoting throughout the years are little to no difference between heel and toe to keep your centre of gravity supported throughout the action without feeling like you are playing with a ball below the feet lie.
Your swing with the driver is quite vertical, nothing compared to the diagonale you showed at the beginning of the video, explaining that longer shafts impose a less vertical directionnality of the club path.
Yep! My driver is less vertical than my wedge! But probably more vertical that your driver as I have had more practice freeing up my swing over the last 46 years!
There is a difference between cupped and collapsed; just look at what happens in the downswing when the kinetic chain kicks in…it all squares up without me thinking about it! Lefty and righty, and many PGA tour players have won and been in the hall of fame with this including Mr Hogan, Kenny Perry, Paul Azinger, John Daly and many more; stop worrying about positions and start delivering your shots into your flight plans with ease and power!
You’re a great golfer but it’s depressing to hear you’re always bragging about your distance the average guy doesn’t hit it anywhere near as far as you guys I wish you worked with people who are average not many people hit it over 300 yards it would be nice if you did a coaching with somebody average to relate with. Thank you
Hey Kim! So sorry, I don’t mean to depress you! 🙃. It is just exciting to be able to show how gathering effortless range of motion and delivering a simple task to engage the kinetic chain makes things so possible for the average golfer. The success rate we have to allow golfers to get dozens of extra yards with irons and off the tee so high and we need to keep getting excited about how good it feels and how amazing it looks when that ball is sent into that gorgeous trajectory. Everyday is an exciting day because we will have given another golfer access to this bliss!
I play all shots with closed stance and swing the down line of my body with face square to target. Keep shoulders closed through impact. Result powerful, baby draws, and inside out shallow swing. Closed stance for all clubs gold.
Oh man what a revelation. I was ALWAYS told by instructors to line up my feet at the target, which then caused me to slice, and then instructors started manipulating my swing (which I HATED) and then I gave up. Beauty lesson, Shawn!
Ahh yes, the good old body part manipulations and trying to put the strings back onto Pinocchio; DISASTER!! Way to go man, stay on this channel, we got you! 👍👌🫶👊💪
This works! I went to the range today and was finally hitting draws and fades on command with EVERY CLUB! Thank you Shawn for sharing your wisdom!
Thank you Ben Hogan And Moe Norman and so many others for blazing an awesome trail! And thank you for the great feedback too! 👍😀👊
Great video! The most important instructions for me happen at the 5:20 mark. The left foot needs to also move a little to maintain balance.Its such a comfortable and natural feeling.Interesting to see Hogan and Knudsen do this at address.”Do nothing in the golf swing at the expense of balance “said Knudsen.
Great comment! Thank you for taking the time!
Shawn, I'm 67 and will readily admit that I was skeptic # 1 when I first saw your vids on closing the clubface 2 or 3 degrees and using a neutral grip to produce a strong straight ball flight. I was fully expecting a hosel rocket smoking it left (I'm right handed ). I did this with a GW and was stoked as the ball went right down the line/reference point I'd selected. I'm hitting driver 300 (with carry) , 3 wood 270, GW 120/130, everything new and improved distance and line wise. Simply having the face square at address now provides about all the fade I need, and just adjusting my stance a bit to the left gives me a suitable draw. Thanks for relieving the stress of not knowing what I was doing correctly/ incorrectly. I've also gone to graphite shafts throughout the bag . Golf is fun again.
Big time fun!👍🫶👊💪👌
I change my set up to this diagonal stance about 3 months ago along with the strong grip about 3 yrs ago and I went from driving 230 yards max to drives now when I miss it it’s 230. When I hit it solid it is more like 240-275. The fun part is I’m just 68 years young playing my best golf ever. I regularly work out with weights for years. Ran into Sav and Moo at long drive contest in Kingsport. That was a Great privilege to see them and to know you and your program on RUclips. I have been following you and watching your techniques and practiced them for years. Thanks for exercising your gift as a teaching in golf. Your golf style has made my golf life amazingly exciting as a older man. My buddies complain all the time and saying nobody puts 30 yards on their drive at 68.😁😂🤣
Right on Rick! Will pass this on to Sav and Mu! Thank you for posting this awesome comment and appreciate the important feedback! have a great weekend!
Always do the diagonal stance but didn’t know why. Always getting told I’m aiming too far right. Glad I decided to stick with it. Thanks Shawn 👍🏻
Amazing when something instinctive works and because it does not follow the trends, you get comments and dirty looks; great to know the truth huh?! Feels so good to know you are on the right path! 👍💪👌🫶👊
Thanks Shawn! I’d also add this helped me transition from feet together drill on the range-to playing on the course with the diagonal stance. Good stuff.
Good stuff! that is awesome! 👍💪👌🫶
Great advice thanks Shawn. Really helped with my distance 👍
You bet!
We have a whole series on this as well as way more for power on our premium channel at wisdom in golf premium.com
Check out all the “release” videos, the “kinetic chain facilitation and engagement series” and the “throwing series” just to name a few!
The one in this video is called the “diagonal stance series”
George Knudsen used the same set-up. Great video.
Yes, he was so awesome! Would have loved to have seen him and Moe play together in their hey day!
will diagonal stance help if you have a bad back? Love you videos!
Man I want that fade @7:30 that was beautiful.
Thank you Ryan! They feel amazing! It really is the coolest when you find the right driver and can just swing freely! 😀👍
I was on the range today and was just hitting 20 yard slices from my driver. I tried this diagonal stance because I thought it would let me swing IN to OUT more.
It was dead straight.
I alternated (to see if it was a fluke or not) between square and diagonal stance and it was always slice/straight/slice/straight.
Unbelievable.
Very good! On our premium channel we have a whole series on the “diagonal stance” plus a “important driver nugget” video to boot! 😀👍
Great video! Can you tell me what you mean by the right edge of the intermediate point? Are you hitting the ball on the inside edge to get that draw?
You want to start to the right of the target if you are to draw back to the target!😀👍
Good stuff there with the closed stance. This is a great pointer for those who are steep with their swing. Curious what driver you using and what shaft ? Keep up the great work Shawn !
Oh man, the Cobra Aerojet Low Spin 9 degree cranked down to 7.5 degrees with the Ventus Black Velocore 6s shaft; just had my PB last night with it at 170 MPH with a 319 carry!
Is a good way to think about it the Attack Angle you’re looking to deliver and the ball position you need to do so? The more up, the more the stance moves closed. The more down, the more the stance moves open.
Shawn buddy you looking better and better everytime I see you. Liking the beard
Thanks Brother!!😀👍🫶
Great demonstration Shawn 😂
that was awesome. i gotta try this!
Let us know how you do! 😀👍
@@golflessons I went to the range and hit 4 buckets. I don't think I've ever hit better. I've never hit a draw so easy! Thanks!
@@aaajjworm right on! 👍👊
Hi Shawn, love your videos! Up to what club can you use the diagonal stance?
We have a whole series on Diagonal stance for all clubs, fades and draws as well on our premium channel at “Wisdom in Golf Premium.com”
Shawn, Just curious as you don't like but a few swing trainers . Martin Chucks Smart ball , your thoughts on it ? Would you say it is too restrictive in the real freedom of the swing ?
How would that allow for a full freedom swing from the shoulder sockets? Would a hammer thrower in track and field use it?😝
Hey Shaun. Where in the premium area are the videos you mention in the video? Having difficulty finding them…
Also, signed up today. Looking forward to checking out all the great content. But, did want to give you a heads up to review the form you have people sign up with. Several of the fields have “optional” next to them (ie address) but the form won’t let you continue unless you put something in.
Nevermind.
Found it “diagonal stance”
Thanks for the great feedback and yes, it’s called the diagonal stance series; which you will see is very complete! Let me know how you do in the comment section and I can keep pointing you to the videos you need to consult to get to your next levels! 💪👍😀
I feel like I get way more accuracy and power with an open stance/square shoulders… as I can use way more ground force specially on lead foot with parametric acceleration. I’m noticing the farthest hitter in history, Kyle Berkshire, uses open stance as well… and he’s the strongest advocate for parametric acceleration as he lifts off the ground. Open stance opens hip very early (great for faster swingers) and the lead foot open brakes the ground more effectively and lets the body open up to create even more vertical/horizontal force.
I’m really intrigued by what a closed stance with square shoulders would do… but absolutely cannot do if it means losing even a little parametric acceleration off the lead knee. Any thoughts Shawn? All the best!
Are your shoulders lined up with your feet or the target?
Neither! The key to alignment is to line up the MOMENTUM of the swing and then ball position is priority #2
1. Your right foot gives a huge step back (2:45).
The steps of your students are much smaller. I heard the right big toe should be in line with the end of your left shoe laces.
2. Are your shoulders still square to target or same line as your feet?
3. Does your clubhead still point at target?
Thanks so much.
Hi Frans! In our premium channel at www.wisdomingolfpremium.com (only $9.95 per month, stay as long as you like) we have a VERY COMPLETE, VERY DETAILED DIAGONAL STANCE SERIES FOR ALL CLUBS FROM WEDGES TO THE DRIVER AND FOR FADES AND DRAWS; the most comprehensive series ever published in this game!!
@@golflessons Hi. That's a pity.... I watch your channel for the first time, post a question, and you refer me to your pay channel. 🤔
@@golflessonsjust answer the question we know you want money. Greedy AF. Unsubscribed!
I am 6 foot, in my 40's, train at the gym, pretty strong and struggle to get over 230 carry lately, I have had it over 270 carry (300 total) previously but seems to only be once in a blue moon and less lately. I use a Taylormade M6 10.5 driver on high setting (so more like a 12.5), my driver is always a fade or a big pull, never a draw, I try so hard to come from the inside, drop my hands, push tot eh right with a slightly closed face and close my stance but then it turns into a hook!?
Hey Matt! if you swing AT THE BALL, IT WILL HOOK; you want to swing THROUGH THE BALL AND INTO THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO START IT; THIS CHANGES THE FACE TO MORE OPEN. Out of the 200 top players in the world, 150 of them have a strong to a very strong grip which is the only way through the ball. See “most overlooked detail with Driver shawn clement”
@@golflessons thanks and will do
Shawn, All your teaching is spot on great . But how about foot wear ? I am certain most out there playing do not even think it can and will hurt there body wearing most today's golf shoes and have been for years. Only two teachers I know one being you are telling it like it is about shoes and all this cushion, high arch support, hard high bottom etc etc . Why so many pros , not just a few wear cushion , high arch , and steel spikes for golf ? I think is about time to do a video on shoes for golf . One teacher has came out and said there is not one shoe company really doing golf it's justice in what is best for golf. I think it would be great to talk a bit about golf shoes if your against how they are made to not feel the ground and feet first is needed up the chain to feel the ground . Even golf shoes out there on the ground force plates show a golf manufacture shoes don't do much for the all important feet . Shoes Important ? Or Not Important ? I think that should be the title of a video .
The important thing about shoes is the purpose; the flatter the better; many of my students practice at the range in their running shoes that are high in the heel and low in the toe and designed for walking and running forward with little change in direction. A good golf shoe like the True Shoes we have been promoting throughout the years are little to no difference between heel and toe to keep your centre of gravity supported throughout the action without feeling like you are playing with a ball below the feet lie.
Your swing with the driver is quite vertical, nothing compared to the diagonale you showed at the beginning of the video, explaining that longer shafts impose a less vertical directionnality of the club path.
Yep! My driver is less vertical than my wedge! But probably more vertical that your driver as I have had more practice freeing up my swing over the last 46 years!
Oh, I forgot to tell you, I use that diagonal stance on every club in my bag with greater distance.
Yes! we have a great series on Diagonal stance on our premium channel where I show how to use the stance on all clubs and with draws AND fades.
🐊🏌⛳️🦅🇺🇸👍🏻
You are just making up stuff
Hey Bill! Crazy like a fox! Over 40 years full time in this game…you just can’t make this sh up!
You still have a cup wrist up there……
There is a difference between cupped and collapsed; just look at what happens in the downswing when the kinetic chain kicks in…it all squares up without me thinking about it! Lefty and righty, and many PGA tour players have won and been in the hall of fame with this including Mr Hogan, Kenny Perry, Paul Azinger, John Daly and many more; stop worrying about positions and start delivering your shots into your flight plans with ease and power!
You’re a great golfer but it’s depressing to hear you’re always bragging about your distance the average guy doesn’t hit it anywhere near as far as you guys I wish you worked with people who are average not many people hit it over 300 yards it would be nice if you did a coaching with somebody average to relate with. Thank you
Hey Kim! So sorry, I don’t mean to depress you! 🙃. It is just exciting to be able to show how gathering effortless range of motion and delivering a simple task to engage the kinetic chain makes things so possible for the average golfer. The success rate we have to allow golfers to get dozens of extra yards with irons and off the tee so high and we need to keep getting excited about how good it feels and how amazing it looks when that ball is sent into that gorgeous trajectory. Everyday is an exciting day because we will have given another golfer access to this bliss!
@@golflessons I understand thank you so much