SCOTUS Coronates A King | Ian Millhiser | TMR
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
- Live-streamed on July 2, 2024
Ian Millhiser, senior correspondent at Vox, discusses the end of the Supreme Court term, including the blockbuster decision regarding presidential immunity.
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Ian Millhiser joins, diving right into the complicated task of reconciling the Supreme Court issuing to landmark - and wildly contradictory - decisions the last week, including the overturning of the Chevron Deference Doctrine - which drastically shackles the federal government - and the granting of presidential immunity for “official” acts - which (obviously) fully unleashes the president’s power to rule. Expanding on this, Millhiser, Emma, and Sam unpack the common thread of the self-empowerment of the judiciary, with the former decision essentially putting administrative choices in the hands of the Court and the latter presenting a central distinction (whether the act is “official” or not) that can only be decided by the Court. After tackling how the “immunity” decision changes the perspective on both former (e.g. Watergate) and ongoing attempts to hold presidents to account, and what these decisions tell us about the Courts fascist tendencies and general incompetence, Ian gives his take on how the Chevron decision might come back to bite the conservative Court in the ass, and wraps up with a brief assessment of the Supreme Court’s decision in Moody v. NetChoice.
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If the legislative branch can't meaningfully delegate to departments, and their laws are subject to judicial review, and the executive branch can do whatever it wants, what power does the legislative branch have?
And can we trust the Legislature to craft robust, all-encompassing laws with no ambiguity? Legislation that is so clear that a judicial review would be unnecessary? I think not. Certainly not with people like MTG, Tom Cotton, and Nancy Mace in office. I'm honestly not sure if these conservative Justices even realize the full extent of what they've done here.
Amend the constitution.
Every time i see "SCOTUS", my brain sees "SCROTUS". 😂
Et tu? (Only I see "SCROTUM". I realize it 's a slur on a smelly but innocent anatomical fact. But that's how I think of the Supremes. (Except for the "innocent" part.)
I mean we are getting some pretty balls rulings at the moment
I see scumba*gs so we are saying the same thing!
@@deanrao4805SCROTUM is pure compared to SCROTUS.
Instead of Supreme Court, my brain sees "supremely corrupt".
I'm leaving this country ASAP. For a little bit of forever. Carlin said it best years ago. This country is finished.
Good luck, I get the impression the nation with the largest military in the world may be about stop just sitting on it...
@@jasonrobinson401 Whatever that means.
@@jasonrobinson401great. That's what a meaningful and fulfilling life is all about. Running and hiding under the strongest gorilla and making fun of anyone that wants to leave.
@@whramijg i wasn't encouraging anybody running or hiding, just musing on the possible futility of trying to.
Leave a house to the gorilla, and it's only a matter of time before it ends up at your new doorstep.
Today's SCOTUS is what happens when you give someone a life time appointment in a role with ZERO accountability.
This has been true of EVERY other supreme court yet they never made such a brazenly anti-democratic decision. This is the result of decades of careful planning by the fascist think tanks and the billionaire corporate class to steal the troublesome democracy from the American people.
please, like any american has ever taken responsibility for anything.
Tell me again how America has a democracy. You don't practice one man one vote. You have lifetime appointed judges. Candidates are chosen by party elders instead of party members. Your politicians even instited term limits for the executive to stop another new deal. No other major position has term limits. American system is so undemocratic it hurts.
@@Seigensiwhats your nationality?
It's also what happens when you don't vote for the lesser evil. People picked Trump over Hilary. That's why the SCOTUS is the way it is, also why federal courts got wackier.
The Podcast "5-4" has a really good investigation into this nonsensical decision.
That SCOTUS even had the power to confer this immunity in the first place is a huge problem. When were politicians - or any agent of any government - ever of moral standing high enough to just ignore the fact that the high Court, under certain circumstances, could easily be used to leverage and compromise checks and balances out of existence?
It is what happened in Germany, that put Hitler in power
I agree. One branch of government should not be allowed to grant immunity to another branch. But this is because the Constitution, which clearly prohibits this, is simply a piece of paper that ideologues will selectively "interpret" so "their side" (as Alito so clearly put it) wins.
"America at its peak" is a very apt description of the situation unfolding around us
It’s the worst
yes, america is.
"Nobody is above the law. The law clearly states that the law can be broken freely by the president because if they can't break the law then their job is impossible...because, you know, we're a country that has to do criminal things if we want to maintain dominance at home and abroad. Like the mafia, but legal."
Basically that.
Yeah… I mean it’s not like the CIA have ever been accountable for all the countries they overthrew to support American interests, (even though they were voted in legally by their people)and the foreign leaders they killed to enable global capitalism to continue unabated.
I'm enjoying 2024 because it could be my last year of freedom thanks to the American voters
Ouch! Same here and might as well say i enjoy the show because of Emma Vigeland 🥰🤣
@@slocoast5 that's what happens when you're about to lose your freedom we become animals
Welcome to Gilead.
@@markg.7865Nice Handmaid’s Tale AND “The Gunslinger” reference 👍🏾
Steven Segal predicted this with “Above the law” 😂
he did not have to sit down back then when doing aikido or shooting a gun
@@whatsup9260 He has arguably aged as bad as Trump or Biden
Dystopian junction function: Choo
On the 4th, I was saying how ironic it is the holiday celebrates our declaration of independence from a king, but SCOTUS just gave us a king. This 4th should have been mourned, not celebrated
? so Joe B can do the same as DT?? NOW.
nope, SCOTUS is not leberal and DT is just a pawn in the actual game.
Has anybody thought that SCOTUS violated law in this decision.
Exactly!
what if they did? Who are you going to appeal to ? SCOTUS?
@@leechgully Millhiser just pointed out that it would take yrs of litigation which never the less should still happen. It would also take massive protest as it always does
@@Salina-qd6es and while you spin your wheels to litigate, they'll just do whatever they intended to do in the first place.
@@leechgully No Mr courageous 🙄
King Joe. First of his name.
Neoliberalism has led us here
Fox News has led us here.
Libs led us here
The value system at play, Ian, is
"Our might is right"
The thing about military personnel refusing orders is that ones that would refuse can be replaced by ones that won't
Also, the military has plenty of MAGA, white supremacists, and fascist that would love to get that order from Trump.
This wouldn't feel so inevitable if the democrats had a lick of common sense
The legality of it will depend on if the President is a democrat or a republican
Brought to you by small government conservatives
I disagree that they are without malice, I think they understand that they still have to maintain the thinnest veil of legitimacy to forestall any real blowback.
The Seditious Six would absolutely rule in favor of fascism any time they could if they thought they could get away with it.
Scrotus more like it, i mean what made them think they had the balls to do this.
VERGOGNA!
Portugal, here I come.
He's the king of Diet Coke and aspartame. 😂
Emma is incorrect when she says that members of the military are obligated to follow unlawful orders. One of the chief differences between our military and that of other countries is that in the US military one may ONLY follow a lawful order. It's not even a choice. They stress the lawful part. In fact, I've never heard it even brung up without the intent being that you don't follow unlawful orders. I believe this is a direct result of the My Lai massacre, but goes further back to the Nuremberg Trials, and even before. Its a part of our military history and tradition.
I for one, am looking forward to having Donald Trump as our sovereign ruler and all the hilarious King Louie of Jungle Book memes that are sure to follow.
There is no such word as coronate! A person is CROWNED!
This is literally too depressing to listen to:(. I got 12 minutes in
I "watch" it muted. I already know how bad it is and what is being said but yeah, it is too painful to listen to.
The Mentaly Retarided report needs to go to school and learn about how our government works.
Hate the new law, hate scotus, but none of it should be retro to interrupt cases already in progress..
part of me thinks this is why the court was using the shadow docket so much in recent years in unprecedented ways; as a test run for a large influx of cases after striking down the chevron doctrine that they can easily churn through by flattening the decisions into legal ones within their purview and letting corps deal with the fall out as they see fit or just ignoring the cases and letting federal judges choices stand if it’s in favor of conservative politics.
"Imagine proud boys X100" Does it have to be one unified group? How many militias, podcast fanbases, and lone wolves are there? Does that count?
@@Paul-mg8fz Who are you talking to Paul? Make you a deal, if you give me a good reason I will.
You can come and live in Australia. We have compulsory voting so no psychos get into parliament, we have sensible gun control AND we have wide open spaces and kangaroos, wombats and koalas (and some mean snakes and spiders to keep you on your toes)!
22:26 I don’t agree. The notion that the president cannot be indicted while in office is just bulls-t. Maybe it is practically unfeasable but it is certainly constitutional.
I didn't take that as him agreeing either, but that's what the justice department operates on, unfortunately.
you quid
I quid
we quid
Pro quo!
What is this American Scrotus?
the highest scrote in america.
Can tje presodent do smething to destroy the supreme court?
You are spending 48 minutes telling us we are f-ked! Could have been 2 minutes long!
"Coronate" is not a verb, FYI. It's "crowned."
Not so.
For example,
The committee plans to coronate the new monarch in a grand ceremony next month.
No primaries in booth parties = your basement !!
All hail the new king! Trump777 👑
Left is best.
Scotus just have ssid "- don't fight the chemical between us "
Good take the power out of agency’s take the bribery out of agency’s 👍🏽 I’m with it
E DEPLORABUS UNUM
"Coronate"? FFS, the phrase is "CROWN the King"; A king or queen is crowned and the crowning ceremony is called a coronation.
Maybe that's how it is where you are, but in America, we coronate our king as a verb
Check your dictionary.
The committee plans to coronate the new monarch in a grand ceremony next month.
@@RoundHouseDictator What king is that?
@@LaNwamNi probably Donnie, but if he loses and nothing changes, someone else in four years
Its an American thing. They dont have kings then tell the rest of the world that does have a king, how to crown them. Go figure.
this is stupid. immunity does not favor Trump. Biden has it right now. He might not remember that, given that he thinks it's 2020, but I'm sure someone on his staff can remind him?
These people have no clue how the real government works 🤣
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Please stop bashing Biden. For real. It's Biden or fascism.
Biden NEEDS to be bullied out of the race. That is the only way to win against Trump at this point. People who are hitching their wagon to Biden are partially responsible for the loss of democracy as we know it if Trump wins. Most of us who watch this show are of the mind that we will vote for Biden regardless, but he isn't going to be convincing anyone new with his performance. He's trending down, and that's the opposite of what we want being down already. It doesn't matter who is president, but dems have to win the presidency, and you're high if you think Biden can do that.
It will get to the point of the whole court being offered to step n,or be put in a catapult. I'm predicting the catapult. F the minimal court.
Great, pretty sure we know what to do with a king. 💀🪓
Agreed
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