I have an 04 4.8 and I put the tsp chopacobra in it along with that I did long tubes will a full exhaust cold air intake and injectors and it made 310 to the tire. I did all the work myself and then had a shop tune it and I think I had right around 2500 into the setup. Stock converter and the truck drives amazing and moves pretty good
I wondered if injectors would do anything for me. I'd be nervous about losing even more gas mileage. I get just under 15 mpg and am on the highway 90% of the time.
My dad’s daily driver is 2000 Silverado LM7 5.3 king cab . With 150k miles. Running 33inch tires. We added a BTR stage 1 truck cam Shorty headers Full 3 inch catback Cold air intake Alex @ New era performance tuned it, and our dyno #s are 254hp 275TQ on 91 octane. Everything else is still factory. We were a bit disappointed too. So where doing next a bigger intake manifold and throttle body and sending those to 454 Chuy for porting and maybe some performance heads if I can convince him. He really wants 300hp+. With a stage 1 or 2 cam you will gain more power with all those supporting mods.
What sold you on the BTR? I was considering a Truck Norris but didn’t think it’d be worth it based on dyno tests. Hard to say. I also thought about a Fast LSXR intake and/or a torque converter with a slightly higher stall… maybe around 2000 to keep it drivable but stay a little closer to the power band. Either way, I think I’ve learned that forced induction is the best bang for your buck.
@@willzbillzfam Did some research on the cam and since my dad didn’t want to upgrade the converter and really wanted more low end over top end we liked the stage 1 from BTR, I’ve had good customer service from them on previous builds and on my personal truck. I wanted the truck Norris NSR cam personally for his truck too. But after talking to BTR they said it will take a really good tuner with patience to make it work with a stock converter. But how it drives now its like stock truck and didn’t even through a check engine light that’s how small the stage 1 is. Yeah your tuner can make it chop or whatever but if I would do it again I would do a stage 2 or a truck Norris. My tuner is good and I think it would be a good daily no problem. For under $500 you can get a cam kit with everything you need I’m sure you will be closer to the 300hp with your mods. And it’s stupid easy to swap it. We did the swap in under 4hrs. Between me and him. Will need another tune after and I think you will be happy, throw in some heads while you’re there too. Over spending thousands on a blower. We live in La Quinta CA, did the work in 115 degrees lol. Gotta Love that desert life!
I've got a similar build but with a 02 Tahoe L59 engine and so far done the longtubes, dual x pipe exhaust, catless, S&B Cold air intake, Efan swap, 40k tru cool, corvette servo, ported TB and i've had it street tuned on just 87 gas and according to HP Tuners I'm making about 365 crack which I'm assuming 310 ish to the rear wheels, but im not sure how accurate HP tuners can be since Dynos are expensive. Soon I will get it on the dyno to see if maybe we're identical! but for how heavy this Tahoe and how old mine is, it pulls really hard on the 30 rolls, just gets up and really goes, especially since mine is tuned to shift at about 5800 RPM.
Would love to know what you get from the dyno. Mine is tuned in 92 but I don't have the servo or tru cool. What benefits have you noticed from those two mods? I am very tempted to get HP Tuners myself so I can dive into that whole world. I see a lot of benefits but also a huge amount to learn. Not sure I'm ready for that. For now, I have a Circle D torque converter on the way with a 22-2400 stall. I'm told it'll still have a mostly stock feel for driving around town but will give me a nice performance boost off the line.
@@willzbillzfam the servo is a huge change it shifts a lot faster and not as firm as people say, if you're cruising you don't even feel the bump until you go wide open throttle on the 1-2 shift. transmission cooler is a MUST for performance, got mine off ebay for $130 and I do not go past 160 on the trans temps which is awesome because on the stock small trans cooler I would be at about 190 to 195F if I was in the highway, and that was when it was about 80 degrees outside so it definitely helps! how is your torque converter experience?? I've been thinking about getting a 2400 to maybe 2600 but I really want it to feel like stock until I step on it so I'm not high rpms all the time and waste more gas. that's really the only thing slowing me on digs, it starts of so slow until about 2500 rpm then it really starts to pick up, so I might get the same one as yours if you really like it! max I think I'd go is 2800 because I don't wanna go too high either.
I recommend a tbss manifold, bigger injectors, I went with 44lbs, melling oil pump, beehive springs, btr cam, I went with stage 3 truck cam v2,but I had to replace the converter so I got a circle d 3200-3400 for 4L60, new gaskets all around, get those heads milled for better compression, speed engineering long tube headers, 92mm throttle body from summit, k&n intake, aluminum radiator(I got mine off eBay for 130), w electronic cooling fans, corvette servo, 4.10 gears, new sensors all around, and a tune. 👍🏽
@@willzbillzfam yea I understand, I live in cali and they’re pretty strict here so I gotta watch out aswell, but Imma go to a smog shop and theyll help me out
Cam kit, valve springs, Camaro intake, torque converter, and a custom tune. That will allow all your other mods shine also. You may not like a supercharger cause all the power is right there with the rpm. It is hard to manage. If you want a power added go with a turbo. So much easier to adjust the boost you are needing at that given time.
I wish I could test drive different cams, superchargers, and turbos. They’re such big mods, I’m afraid I won’t love the experience once they’re in and I’m stuck with it. Haven’t found many review videos either.
@@willzbillzfam start with what I stated before adding your power adder of choice. Being 2wd I would suggest a procharger or turbo kit that way you can ramp in your boost so you won't break traction. Supercharger would be instant power and traction would become an issue. Spinning ain't winning is what we say around here. (Only reason I haven't bought a supercharger myself) 😎
I have an 07 classic, 706 heads truck Norris cam springs etc, speed engineering headers..should be tuned in the next couple weeks but I’ll keep ya updated on my numbers
Time to cam the motor , Truck Norris Cam and it comes with a kit , LS6 Valve Springs and 5/16 push rods . Great and friendly torque converter , no need for high stall converter , its an option . After camming the motor have it tune by your speed shop . There you have it , bro . Beautiful truck you have bro .
Thanks! I've been looking into a Circle D torque converter with a slightly higher stall than stock. What's the idea with the LS6 valve springs and 5/16 push rods?
Proven fact- even at much higher hp numbers the "hot air" isn't hurting you in the SLIGHTEST. I suggest you read up, or nowadays just watch some horsepower, engine masters , Richard Holdener,or really any reputable engine builders videos for the info -On Granitelli- they've been around forever, have a great support system and great products. The Dorman (as much as I hate their lack of QC) has again been PROVEN to damn near match most ls3 stuff/ again; watch some Richard Holdener. The rest is 100% personal preference in my opinion . Headers of course have plenty of proven numbers with different cams, soringsets, fueling, abd every other combo under the sun. Mufflers- same but damn near equal with mild mods like you/ sound choice. E fans and Rad - your best bet is the forums, shops want to sell their products, their sponsors, etc. Good luck!
Good stuff. Ya, I always thought cold air is more dense and therefore packs a bigger punch when it burns up. Goes to show how good the marketing is for some of these products that do zero for you with performance.
Good point. The right cam probably won't hurt anything and will add power up top. Have you had a positive experience putting a cam in anything? Was it a big change in the driving experience?
Thanks for the video. Was going to say cam it. Then you said what you said. Lol, speaking of Vegas im here right now and it feels like an inferno!. Keep doing your videos✌️
I think everything you’ve done has been in preparation for cam plus super charger or turbo. However I would just get a bigger motor if thats your goal.
They're 295/45R20 Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4's which are a little less than half an inch taller and an inch and a half wider as the stock 255/70R16's that came on these trucks.
Genuinely man, the horse power should be much higher, I’ve never seen one that low stock I don’t think, very weird. Check out the truck Norris cam also, the torque gains and where they start are insane on it
Know of any videos where they put a stock LM7 on a dyno? I’m curious how far off I am. I know these things came with 285 at the crank but who knows what made it to the wheels. The Truck Norris seems like the most popular.
Unfortunately not. Big mistake. These came from the factory with 285 hp and 325 lbs of torque at the crank but who know how much is lost to the wheels.
Taking nothing away from you, video production,edit, everything! A+++ subbed. I just have to add, it's an old truck that made 285 CRANK new, basically stock+ no real power adders in the broadest idea of real world- what in the world did you expect? The "disgeartening" cannot be even close to real. You appear way to clever, have talked to too many companies, have done enough research to speak clearly and plainly about certain things. You 100% HAD to be aware that was a realistic end goal number where you stand. I don't buy it. NOW, that being said ; for funny haha (especially the Carrey which I giggled at myself!) 😂 and "production ", lead in for future and heck- you get it- well...I get it. But C'MONNN lol like I said; subbed. So it works? Or I just continue to prove my own idiocy by chasing flashes if light.. either one us a win for you I reckon lol. Good luck! Once I finish my 6.0 , I've got a 6.2 with plans, think I may take a lighthearted approach similarly. Have fun, be safe, ttyl bud! And like my truck windows say- I Hope something good happens to you today 🙏
I had Leading Edge Performance tune it. Is that what you're talking about? They told me they tuned it to get more power out of it but keep it as drivable and reliable as possible.
@willzbillzfam you spent about 6000$ (including all the money you wasted on the intake). You could have just got a cam long tube headers and tune and made 70hp more than what you did and spent alot less and if your gonna spend 600 dollars on a factory intake you could have gotten a tbss style intake for the same price and made more power the map sensor was a waste of money the cold air intake was a waste of money the ignition components were a waste of money and the ported throttle body all because of one thing your engine isn't making enough power to gain anything from these mods but if you put a hotter cam in it you might have actually gained power not just from the cam but from all your other mods as well because they work together your stock intake and throttle body weren't restricting air close to how much your factory cam is
I have an 04 4.8 and I put the tsp chopacobra in it along with that I did long tubes will a full exhaust cold air intake and injectors and it made 310 to the tire. I did all the work myself and then had a shop tune it and I think I had right around 2500 into the setup. Stock converter and the truck drives amazing and moves pretty good
I wondered if injectors would do anything for me. I'd be nervous about losing even more gas mileage. I get just under 15 mpg and am on the highway 90% of the time.
My dad’s daily driver is 2000 Silverado LM7 5.3 king cab . With 150k miles. Running 33inch tires.
We added a BTR stage 1 truck cam
Shorty headers
Full 3 inch catback
Cold air intake
Alex @ New era performance tuned it, and our dyno #s are 254hp 275TQ on 91 octane. Everything else is still factory. We were a bit disappointed too. So where doing next a bigger intake manifold and throttle body and sending those to 454 Chuy for porting and maybe some performance heads if I can convince him. He really wants 300hp+. With a stage 1 or 2 cam you will gain more power with all those supporting mods.
What sold you on the BTR? I was considering a Truck Norris but didn’t think it’d be worth it based on dyno tests. Hard to say. I also thought about a Fast LSXR intake and/or a torque converter with a slightly higher stall… maybe around 2000 to keep it drivable but stay a little closer to the power band. Either way, I think I’ve learned that forced induction is the best bang for your buck.
@@willzbillzfam Did some research on the cam and since my dad didn’t want to upgrade the converter and really wanted more low end over top end we liked the stage 1 from BTR, I’ve had good customer service from them on previous builds and on my personal truck. I wanted the truck Norris NSR cam personally for his truck too. But after talking to BTR they said it will take a really good tuner with patience to make it work with a stock converter. But how it drives now its like stock truck and didn’t even through a check engine light that’s how small the stage 1 is. Yeah your tuner can make it chop or whatever but if I would do it again I would do a stage 2 or a truck Norris. My tuner is good and I think it would be a good daily no problem. For under $500 you can get a cam kit with everything you need I’m sure you will be closer to the 300hp with your mods. And it’s stupid easy to swap it. We did the swap in under 4hrs. Between me and him. Will need another tune after and I think you will be happy, throw in some heads while you’re there too. Over spending thousands on a blower. We live in La Quinta CA, did the work in 115 degrees lol. Gotta Love that desert life!
Interesting! Very tempting now to throw the truck Norris in and share the results in a video.
And also look into the chuck Norris cam. All the low end torque and horsepower.
I'll take a look, thanks.
I've got a similar build but with a 02 Tahoe L59 engine and so far done the longtubes, dual x pipe exhaust, catless, S&B Cold air intake, Efan swap, 40k tru cool, corvette servo, ported TB and i've had it street tuned on just 87 gas and according to HP Tuners I'm making about 365 crack which I'm assuming 310 ish to the rear wheels, but im not sure how accurate HP tuners can be since Dynos are expensive. Soon I will get it on the dyno to see if maybe we're identical! but for how heavy this Tahoe and how old mine is, it pulls really hard on the 30 rolls, just gets up and really goes, especially since mine is tuned to shift at about 5800 RPM.
Would love to know what you get from the dyno. Mine is tuned in 92 but I don't have the servo or tru cool. What benefits have you noticed from those two mods? I am very tempted to get HP Tuners myself so I can dive into that whole world. I see a lot of benefits but also a huge amount to learn. Not sure I'm ready for that. For now, I have a Circle D torque converter on the way with a 22-2400 stall. I'm told it'll still have a mostly stock feel for driving around town but will give me a nice performance boost off the line.
@@willzbillzfam the servo is a huge change it shifts a lot faster and not as firm as people say, if you're cruising you don't even feel the bump until you go wide open throttle on the 1-2 shift. transmission cooler is a MUST for performance, got mine off ebay for $130 and I do not go past 160 on the trans temps which is awesome because on the stock small trans cooler I would be at about 190 to 195F if I was in the highway, and that was when it was about 80 degrees outside so it definitely helps! how is your torque converter experience?? I've been thinking about getting a 2400 to maybe 2600 but I really want it to feel like stock until I step on it so I'm not high rpms all the time and waste more gas. that's really the only thing slowing me on digs, it starts of so slow until about 2500 rpm then it really starts to pick up, so I might get the same one as yours if you really like it! max I think I'd go is 2800 because I don't wanna go too high either.
I recommend a tbss manifold, bigger injectors, I went with 44lbs, melling oil pump, beehive springs, btr cam, I went with stage 3 truck cam v2,but I had to replace the converter so I got a circle d 3200-3400 for 4L60, new gaskets all around, get those heads milled for better compression, speed engineering long tube headers, 92mm throttle body from summit, k&n intake, aluminum radiator(I got mine off eBay for 130), w electronic cooling fans, corvette servo, 4.10 gears, new sensors all around, and a tune. 👍🏽
Sounds like an amazing setup! Unfortunately I have to think about passing smog here in Nevada so a lot of that isn't an option for me 😕
@@willzbillzfam yea I understand, I live in cali and they’re pretty strict here so I gotta watch out aswell, but Imma go to a smog shop and theyll help me out
Should put a lq9 with 243 heads and a nice stage 2 truck cam
Is that what you're running? What do you like about it? Is it a good setup for a daily?
Cam kit, valve springs, Camaro intake, torque converter, and a custom tune. That will allow all your other mods shine also. You may not like a supercharger cause all the power is right there with the rpm. It is hard to manage. If you want a power added go with a turbo. So much easier to adjust the boost you are needing at that given time.
I wish I could test drive different cams, superchargers, and turbos. They’re such big mods, I’m afraid I won’t love the experience once they’re in and I’m stuck with it. Haven’t found many review videos either.
@@willzbillzfam start with what I stated before adding your power adder of choice. Being 2wd I would suggest a procharger or turbo kit that way you can ramp in your boost so you won't break traction. Supercharger would be instant power and traction would become an issue. Spinning ain't winning is what we say around here. (Only reason I haven't bought a supercharger myself) 😎
I have an 07 classic, 706 heads truck Norris cam springs etc, speed engineering headers..should be tuned in the next couple weeks but I’ll keep ya updated on my numbers
Yes! Please do!
Time to cam the motor , Truck Norris Cam and it comes with a kit , LS6 Valve Springs and 5/16 push rods . Great and friendly torque converter , no need for high stall converter , its an option . After camming the motor have it tune by your speed shop . There you have it , bro . Beautiful truck you have bro .
Thanks! I've been looking into a Circle D torque converter with a slightly higher stall than stock. What's the idea with the LS6 valve springs and 5/16 push rods?
Proven fact- even at much higher hp numbers the "hot air" isn't hurting you in the SLIGHTEST. I suggest you read up, or nowadays just watch some horsepower, engine masters , Richard Holdener,or really any reputable engine builders videos for the info
-On Granitelli- they've been around forever, have a great support system and great products.
The Dorman (as much as I hate their lack of QC) has again been PROVEN to damn near match most ls3 stuff/ again; watch some Richard Holdener.
The rest is 100% personal preference in my opinion . Headers of course have plenty of proven numbers with different cams, soringsets, fueling, abd every other combo under the sun. Mufflers- same but damn near equal with mild mods like you/ sound choice.
E fans and Rad - your best bet is the forums, shops want to sell their products, their sponsors, etc.
Good luck!
Good stuff. Ya, I always thought cold air is more dense and therefore packs a bigger punch when it burns up. Goes to show how good the marketing is for some of these products that do zero for you with performance.
Damn. The power. All that money you could have bought the lm7 5.3 450 hp 420 torque and supercharger.
For real, I'm kicking myself now. Either way, it's been a good learning experience!
I recommend you look into Richard Holdener. Hes proven with some camshafts you dont lose no low end torque, on the contrary you get better gains.
Good point. The right cam probably won't hurt anything and will add power up top. Have you had a positive experience putting a cam in anything? Was it a big change in the driving experience?
Thanks for the video. Was going to say cam it. Then you said what you said. Lol, speaking of Vegas im here right now and it feels like an inferno!. Keep doing your videos✌️
Thanks!
I think everything you’ve done has been in preparation for cam plus super charger or turbo. However I would just get a bigger motor if thats your goal.
I like your thinking!
I hope you make alot more videos on this truck. I'm subscribed
Thank you! We've got some more on the way!
I plan on using the same wheels on my 2001 Silverado and like the looks of yours, what size tires do you have on yours?
They're 295/45R20 Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4's which are a little less than half an inch taller and an inch and a half wider as the stock 255/70R16's that came on these trucks.
Add an postrack differential.
I have a limited slip in there right now but a posi is on my long term list.
You may need to do a tune to make everything work, or something you install doesn't work correctly
Feel like I got it dialed in pretty good now!
Genuinely man, the horse power should be much higher, I’ve never seen one that low stock I don’t think, very weird. Check out the truck Norris cam also, the torque gains and where they start are insane on it
Know of any videos where they put a stock LM7 on a dyno? I’m curious how far off I am. I know these things came with 285 at the crank but who knows what made it to the wheels. The Truck Norris seems like the most popular.
Did you happen to dyno before the mods?
Unfortunately not. Big mistake. These came from the factory with 285 hp and 325 lbs of torque at the crank but who know how much is lost to the wheels.
Taking nothing away from you, video production,edit, everything! A+++ subbed.
I just have to add, it's an old truck that made 285 CRANK new, basically stock+ no real power adders in the broadest idea of real world- what in the world did you expect? The "disgeartening" cannot be even close to real. You appear way to clever, have talked to too many companies, have done enough research to speak clearly and plainly about certain things. You 100% HAD to be aware that was a realistic end goal number where you stand. I don't buy it. NOW, that being said ; for funny haha (especially the Carrey which I giggled at myself!) 😂 and "production ", lead in for future and heck- you get it- well...I get it. But C'MONNN lol like I said; subbed. So it works? Or I just continue to prove my own idiocy by chasing flashes if light.. either one us a win for you I reckon lol. Good luck! Once I finish my 6.0 , I've got a 6.2 with plans, think I may take a lighthearted approach similarly. Have fun, be safe, ttyl bud! And like my truck windows say-
I Hope something good happens to you today 🙏
6.2 swap is the dream for me. Do you have any concerns with direct injection?
Tune the ECM
I had Leading Edge Performance tune it. Is that what you're talking about? They told me they tuned it to get more power out of it but keep it as drivable and reliable as possible.
What octane was it tuned on?
91
@ I’m really surprised if it was 91 , how much timing ?
Should be making more than that a least 300 to the wheels
Just supercharge it.. get a whipple kit or the lsa kit
As soon as I have $7k laying around 😄
If you had picked your mods with your money better you would have actually gained power instead of loosing it
Can you be more specific? Are you saying spend the money on heads and a cam instead? Or what?
@willzbillzfam you spent about 6000$ (including all the money you wasted on the intake). You could have just got a cam long tube headers and tune and made 70hp more than what you did and spent alot less and if your gonna spend 600 dollars on a factory intake you could have gotten a tbss style intake for the same price and made more power the map sensor was a waste of money the cold air intake was a waste of money the ignition components were a waste of money and the ported throttle body all because of one thing your engine isn't making enough power to gain anything from these mods but if you put a hotter cam in it you might have actually gained power not just from the cam but from all your other mods as well because they work together your stock intake and throttle body weren't restricting air close to how much your factory cam is
If he gets a tune he will be fast again
@@ghostlycondom8295 another tune?
Dont cam it. Looks like the perfect street truck. Who wants to sound like nascar going Anywhere🤡 reliable legal daily. My 2nd lm7. 6.0 gas hog
Couldn't agree more!