Blue Ridge Rock Fest 2024 HAS Been Taking Your Money... And I Have Proof
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 14 май 2024
- Blue Ridge Rock Fest recently denied that it is currently selling tickets for its 2024 festival... But were they before? I've got the answer, WITH PROOF, and it's exactly what I thought it'd be.
00:00 Intro / Story Background
02:55 The E-mail From An Attendee
04:59 Blue Ridge's Lackluster Response
05:58 Blue Ridge's Response To Failed Payments
07:24 Payment Confirmations/Failures From The Ticket Seller
08:47 Blue Ridge Was Accepting Payments At Some Point
09:27 Where's The Money?
11:01 What Happens Now?
----------
FOLLOW ON SOCIALS/SUPPORT THE CHANNEL:
The Back Lounge Podcast: rss.com/podcasts/tankthetech/
Instagram: / tankthetech
Facebook: / tankthetechofficial
Twitter: / tankthetech
Twitch: / tankthetech
Discord Server: / discord
RUclips: / tankthetech
Merchandise: tankthetechmerch.com
Patreon: / tankthetech
Donate on PayPal: paypal.me/tankthetech
----------
Follow my created streaming playlists all of the music featured on my channel:
Spotify: open.spotify.com/playlist/4LN...
Apple Music: / roadie-reactions-playlist
----------
#blueridge #blueridgerockfest #brff #tankthetech
Blue Ridge is pretty much the Fyre festival of the metal community.
Be careful saying that. Jon Slye made a whole rude video calling me a keyboard warrior when I said that back in 2019.
@@zacharyjames2885if it quacks like a duck.....
I was just thinking the same thing
I bought tickets to blue ridge rock festival and all I got was this RUclips comment.
Its a crying shame what greed and money will do to people! Blue ridge already ruined a bunch of people's lives and now they have the audacity to try it again! I dont see how people like this sleep at night!
Er...
I think they scammed and screwed a bunch of people.
"Ruined their lives", is a touch dramatic lol.
@@bmir89 i mean scamming someone can ruin someones life but defo not from this unless someone put their life savings into the festivel..
I already died twice because of this.
If $500 ruins your life, you need to re-evaluate your life
Easier said than done, my dude. Many people are in different situations in life. Years ago, $500 would have felt like $100,000 when I was broke and struggling, and would definitely have had major life implications. Now, you could argue that someone in that situation shouldn’t be spending that money in the first place, but I’m not one for telling people what to do with their money.
I love how the BRRF trilogy is turning into a full saga at this point. What a terrible series of events in the industry for heavy music 😢
The most recent payment that failed go through was at 0520 this morning.
They need to file the chargeback as soon as possible. There's a limit to hw long you can wait. Scammers know that and will try to delay refunds through email conversations until the period has passed.
Need to get Legal Eagle on this, see if he can figure out who fucked up and who's going to be left holding the bag.
He'll see them in court! And I'll see myself out 😂
I'd contact the bank and start the refund process with them.
If everyone who has spent even a dime on the 2024 festival goes after the banks, the banks will, in turn, go after the festival and the ones responsible.
So get the banks involved, and then you'll see real movement and possibly criminal charges.
“Where’s the money sh*thead” 🤣 Love the thumb nail. The Netflix doc on this sh** show is going to be awesome. I can’t wait!
It's Woodstock 99 all over again.
Obviously, you're not a golfer
As a former bank officer, here is what I suspect:
1) The charge was authorized;
2) Hold on the funds before the merchant collected;
3) Hold released after ~3-5 business days because the merchant did not collect;
4) Customer unwisely/unwittingly spent said released funds;
5) Merchant later tried to collect spent funds.
See: Hotel bookings
Dude, Tank is going fucking off. Shit is about to get personal for Blue Ridge with this shit.
They asked about a refund for 2024 tickets, for an event that was 8 months away at that point, and were given the canned response about 2023 refunds? Wha???
Blue Ball Festival
I live in PA and we actually have a small town called Blue Ball. If you ever drive through it the symbol of the town, a large blue ball, is on multiple businesses. Nice little town, as many are in that area of the state.
We also have Virginville, Intercourse, and Paradise, all in the same region. Gotta love old small town names.
"You might see someone in jail." I'm honestly surprised that isn't in the works already.
You should reach out to legal eagle about the law side
Now that's a crossover I'd love to see.
That'd be an interesting video
If Legal Eagle can represent all of us BRRF 23 people in getting our money back, that'd be soooo cool. But I'd take a video too on how to try to do it myself
@@gray7433 I know it would have to be a federal case: Virginia doesn't have class actions at the state level.
Oh God this, ill open the comm channels if necessary because man that would be badass
I’m so glad you’re speaking on this. Unfortunately this isn’t the only shitshow in Virginia, and event staff are treated like trash all across our right to work state. I run foh sound here and I have no retirement and I’m about to rise out of the tax bracket for government healthcare. Lots of my colleagues don’t have insurance. I hope we can take this thing down and find some justice for workers, bands and attendees alike, so we can reestablish our state as a great place for music.
Unions. Get one.
I know they definitely were. I saw people with order confirmations in the days following the 2023 cancellation.
I'm several minutes behind on the premier but as far as banning you after a chargeback is concerned it's not illegal but an incredibly shitty thing to do as a business practice I work for a bank in disputed card payments & it just speaks to the morals of the merchants more than anything
If someone does do jail time guaranteed it won't be the top organisers and owners that get thrown under the tour bus
Used to work for a bank. 90% of these issues are on the company selling tickets. That being said this sounds 100% on blue ridge
Thank you for continuing to talk about this. It’s important that people are held accountable or the industry will just devolve.
My husband and I were able to get the money we spent on tickets/glamping (~$3k) for 2023 back through our credit card companies (AmEX and Navy Fed, if anyone is wondering), but that was still only around half of our total expense for that trip since we had to travel out from California. It sucks that we trusted them to provide a decent experience and they utterly failed. I would MUCH rather have been able to see the bands we went to see than be sitting here today with my refund, but I’ll take the lesson and hopefully avoid anything like this in the future.
I have to say it because I do think it‘s important:
THANK YOU very much for covering those topics and especially this BRRF topic in particular! I probably will never be visiting or participating the BRRF (cause it‘s a frickin journey from Germany) but I‘ve been visiting so many festivals in my youth and I always had a blast when the lineup was good and I had the chance of hanging out with cool people and friends and listening to the music acts.
Best memories: Rock am Ring 1998 and 1999 😍😍😍
Now I’m nearly 46 and have two kids and my festival visits are pretty much over but it‘s a kind of insanity IF BRRF really got money for tickets basically knowing there will be no BRRF in 2024, especially after the disaster in 2023.
I really hope and pray that ALL people will get their money back and that, if BRRF committed fraud in any kind or form, people will held accountable for their actions!
Thx again for covering this topic and caring about your industry, all the best from Germany 🇩🇪, Philipp 👋
By the way, I can vouch that doing a chargeback with Etix will NOT lead to a ban from the service (3:20). USAA returned most of what I paid for BARF 2023, and then I bought a ticket through Etix for the Crypta tour in Greensboro last month, and it went right through and I was able to attend.
Tank is for the people! This man has earned my loyalty! I'm not trying to ask for something that I don't deserve or didn't pay for. I'm a disabled vet trying to go to school for a science degree while dealing with my medical problems. That money back would be nice but tis life. I'm very grateful for the little bit of the festival I did get to experience and for all those that made that happen. Cheers to you Tank and your family
Hope you get your money back!!
@@matturner6890 thanks bro! If I do, I'll cheers to you and Tank
Tank's going in! I'm all for it, this is mental
eTix is accountable to refund anyone who bought a ticket for a show that does not happen.. (that's what all the ticket fees are for)
eTix will have to sue Blue Ridge, it isn't up to us..
Fans: Where's the money Blue Ridge? Where's the money deadbeat!?
Blue Ridge: I think it's down there, let me take another look.
I used to work for Ticketmaster’s fraud department. We definitely flagged accounts for chargebacks. And you could continue to use the account but there was always a risk that any future tickets you bought on that account or with that card would be cancelled as you were seen as a potential loss risk
I cannot speak about Etix specifically, but depending on the platform, doing a credit card chargeback rather than only going through the platform for a refund *CAN* get you banned. 1. You do chargeback with CC. 2. CC company withholds withhold the funds from platform or levies them a chargeback fee. 3. Platform doesn't want to deal with you potentially doing this again and bans you.
You aren't letting up on these guys and I'm here for it! Thank you for being our frustrated voice! They can't and they WON'T get away with this unscathed this time!
So, anyone else wanna see a LegalEagle video on this?
Oh my god, was that the latest topic in your twitch channel? Man, I'm missing your streams all the time lately 😭
This is the first video of yours that I have seen. Very good job, very honest about what you can see/prove vs what you can assume given the other evidence. Good content.
I legitimately tried to get a group together for the the disastrous festival. Now, im grateful that my friends weren't interested.
I'm watching the whole set of EC Tekkno Tour Videos rn. Love your content and you as a human. I have a really good time watching the Insights of your days an Business. Much Love from Germany.
I had absolutely no doubt that they would do this. Absolutely awfull. Glad i did not give them my money. Im sorry for all of you going through this. Its like a horrible chronicle. Thanks for the continued coverage of this as well, it helps keep it in the light and people in the know how.
Thank you for continuing to draw attention to this miserable excuse for a festival. I had an awful experience there in 2022 (wisely did not attend 2023) and the more people that know the better.
Thank you so much for making these vidoes! I don't know how much time you want to spend on Blue Ridge, but I think a look into the original venue change in 2019 would be very interesting and enlightening. I used to work for one of the companies that is currently suing for money owed and while I never had any direct interacts with Slye or his team, my coworkers did, and from their account, the Split from the DeVault family is what started the downhill slide for the festival.
We had exactly the same stuff happen to us. I could provide all of that info also. We bought the 2024 tickets the first day of the 2023 festival...before the shit hit the fan. We had 3 payments process successfully. About 400+ we gave to them.
I didnt cancel the payments bc Etix was very upfront that you would forfeit all payments if you canceled. We were hoping to ride it out, hoping that Etix would provide refunds if/when the festival didnt happen.
This is next level content Tank!
They were selling tickets on the Friday of the 2023 event for the 2024 event. I was there but never bought any.
Originally I was watching Blue Ridge coverage just because I enjoy the 'science' behind why events like this, Fyre Fest and Dashcon go so wrong. But hearing from you and the stagehands that walked, I really want to see this organization held accountable for putting peoples' lives at risk. Between the extreme safety/health violations and the botched evacuation during the storms, they're lucky nobody died.
The festival has always done "pre-sales", at supposedly an "early bird" cost. It is the lowest price point that the tickets sell for. Meaning, they sell the following (next) years tickets before the current year even happens. I know this because my daughter always purchases the pre sale tickets. She did NOT do the payment plan, she paid in full.
My daughter has informed me that she DID receive a full refund for the 2023 festival year. The refund for 2023 finalized back in December. However, they have refused, and fought her, on getting a refund for the 2024 festival year. The request was for "services not rendered" and was declined; stating that the service has not happened yet so she can not claim that she did not receive the service she paid for.
After watching all of your videos on this matter (thank you, BTW), I have instructed her to try again, to re file the claim with her credit card company. This time claiming "fraud", as they clearly stopped selling tickets.
She also has proof of everything.
They do not and have never sold tickets for the following year before the current year’s event. Last year was the earliest they had ever made tickets for the following year available and they made them available on either Thursday or Friday of the event.
The event was enough of a shitshow and mess without people making crap up to paint them as even worse. There is zero need to spread lies.
Also, a chargeback is not a refund and making bogus claims to game the system so you can get a chargeback is illegal. However, the most likely worst that would happen is your bank/credit card issuer terminating your account.
@TimPool.BeanieCivilWarlord incorrect. I bought tickets in 2022 for 2023 on Wednesday before the show started. And this year for 2024 on Wednesday as well. As soon as they went on sale.
@@TimPool.BeanieCivilWarlord What part of the word PROOF did you not understand? Everything I said is 100% fact and is backed up with irrefutable proof. Including the date of when the tickets were purchased. I'm truly sorry that the actual facts bother you, but it doesn't make it any less true.
Lol, I love the thumbnail pic for this 😂
I’ve known a few shifty promoters over the years.
Based on my experiences there, one translation might be that they spent the money already and need the insurance claim to cover the refunds.
(Again my sincerest apologies 😔, to all of you & Tank, for my overly long & rambling posts)
As always Tank, thank you for all you do & keeping us informed about important things, like this, keeping us inspired, & most of all always making it about the music/concert information, which connects us all.
Also wanted to express my thanks for your awesome work on your Patreon channel & encourage anyone here thinking about joining - please do. There's tons of bonus & early release content & great discussions as always. There's several levels (tiers) to fit anyone's budget & you can always go up, down, or cancel should you need to.
Seriously Tank, how do you find the time!? Lolol 😄! But I'm greatful that you do & honored to be able to help support all your hard work here & on Patreon, even if it's just in a small way.
Peace, Harmony, & Respect,
LadyAnnePhD
Comment to praise the mighty algorithm. 😶🌫
The company I work for does suspend your account and flag it if there is a charge back ( I don't work for a ticket company though)
I also bought tickets for BRRF before last year's catastrophe. My payments were being processed up until Dec 2023.
Its honestly just sad that Blue Ridge turned out to be shit. If it was a properly run festival it would be one of the best in NA easy.
Both my bf and I bought ‘24 tickets within the first hour they were on sale at ‘23. Only 2 payments have gone thru. Every payment since then has not gone thru, we continue to get emails saying a payment has been tried and failed, as recently as 2 days ago. But no other money has been taken since.
I'd talk to your bank sooner rather than later to see when the cut off is for filing a dispute.
@TankTheTech there`s a german law channel called @WBSLegal. It's run by german lawyer/barrister Christian Solmecke and his team. He's specialised on media and entertainment industry law, but he also comments on other areas of public interest from an lawyers point of view. I don't know if there's a similar RUclipsr with law background in the english RUclips world. But I'd REALLY love to hear a talk between you and a lawyer about what can go wrong at festivals and the likes AND who will and has to be held accountable for it. Maybe that's a new suggestion for your Roadie background talks?
I'm working as a clerk for german federal authorities and do have a legal background myself. It'd be really interesting to view a talk like that and would like it to happen!
I was at 2023 and can confirm that tickets for 2024 went on sale at the beginning of that absolute disaster.
Also still waiting for ANY resolution for 2023, in case you were curious.
I live in Danville VA where the festival is every year. They just announced that there will be no festival for 2024
DOWNLOAD WOULD NEVER
This saga never ends.
Thank you for being passionate about this. Seriously .. Im still beyond livid and want my $1600 back 😂😅😅
I worked retail customer service and they were absolutely aware if a customer did a chargeback, because we'd get customers on a regular basis who'd had their accounts flagged for it and effectively blacklisted. It's a scummy practice, especially because of course the customers had no idea. They'd only find out when trying to place a new order, only to find out that the payments wouldn't go through.
Wells Fargo denied my claim for 2023...not holding my breath on ever getting my money back.
This is a very very very dramatic way to tell us that the last official media release from Blue Ridge was honest. They have not been selling tickets for 2024 or collecting money for several months (per the proof you showed since 12/2).
Also, every ticket I've ever purchased is charged at the time of purchase. That's not abnormal or uncommon to collect payments on a plan. It's actually a good sign that they stopped collecting.
What do people think happens when you initiate a chargeback with your credit card company? They go after the merchant and take the money from the merchants payment provider who takes the money from the merchant.
I really can't believe there isn't more press on this considering 50,000 of us lost money for multiple days of this sh*t show
This is gonna result in a collab between TanktheTech and LegalEagle, I can feel it.
I’d love to see you sit down with a lawyer like Ben Meiselas of MeidasTouch as he was in the Fyre Fest documentary. He would be able to talk about the legal aspects of this. If it was a 1 hour video, I’d watch it.
Hey Tank- not surprised…I doubt ETix would hold the $- legally, I don’t think they’d be allowed to do that nor do I think they’d want to. I’m sure they want their hands clean of BRRF financial responsibilities as well. TY for all you do !❤
Ex-stagehand here and THANK YOU for speaking up on all angles of what a trainwreck this was.
Tank for President!🤘
We bought tix as soon as they went live as we were in the campground already. We bought VIP and camping tix. Did the initial down payment. We continued our vacation after the fest for 3-4 days. When we got home, we reached out to etix to cancel and get a refund with the reason of not feeling comfortable attending that event again. Was told no, so I swapped my cc info to an old gift card, I still get the failed payment emails every month.
When I saw your original video about BRRF 2023 I could see the pain in your eyes that there was something that broken in an industry that you love working in. So I completely understand you still looking in to this and speaking about it. After 2023's absolutly Fuster Cluck of a festival Slye deserves prison time, he has skrimped and low balled on every aspect of the festival in order to pad his bottom line. That much is obvious, as for the whole communicating refunds thing being blocked by the insurance company...I don't beleive a word of it. Granted I am in the UK and our insurance industry is quite different but I have worked in it for not far off 2 decades and from experiance here we would 100% say to a client be clear and transparant with your customers and as an insurance entity we also have to be clear and transparant in order to be open for business because of the regulators of the industry. It boggles my mind that an insurance company would say "don't say anything at all, don't mention refunds, don't mention anything that looks like they are being done etc" because the only thing that it brings to my mind is corperate lawyers sat in a room saying "How much of the money can we keep? and how do we make it look like we are doing everything we can?" that may be my own tin foil hat part but it just stinks. Also seeing that people cannot get refunds for 2024s festival is just stupid.....I'm with a lot of chat, I would just do a charge back and risk getting banned from ETIX and then maybe contact Etix directly explaining the situation. With all the BRRF coverage, they would be the first to understand why a charge back may happen and if not....then they deserve a court case as well.
I know your set background is albums and stuff but every time I see it i thinks a shirt selection at Hot Topic
This is why I go overseas to concerts/Wacken Open Air...
Rap can't draw an audience besides a few police cars...
EDM is hit or miss...
Passport and Euros =🤘😝
As an Australian, your blue ridge festival content has been more entertaining for me, than the actual 2023 event was for festival goers and that is fucking BIZZZARE!
Not everyone had a bad time last year.. There were parties going on when we all found out no bands were going to play that day. A few thousand of us still had a great time!! I hope it happens this year! (although if no bands want to play there, then it won't obviously)
One good thing came from the fiasco that was blue ridge, I found your channel Tank, plus you hanging with one of my fave bands, EC o course, thanks for making me a fan sir!! And keep up the awesome work!! Been working on perfecting my tin foil hat making technique lol
If I had purchased tickets and my bank had any issues, I'd be pressing charges for obtaining money under false pretenses. I had to do this for an HVAC company 10 years ago I'd paid for a new system for my home and almost 3 months went by and we were getting into May in southeastern NC and the HVAC was the only thing we were waiting on to move in. The owner of the company had given us the excuse it was on back order and the dates kept changing and then he stopped replying so I contacted a local news channel that did a piece every week that looked into local business complaints for citizens, they also got no reply but other people in the area he had waiting also saw it and one of them knew more about the law than I did or my local sheriff's department and went and filed criminal charges with the sheriff's department in their county and I was contacted regarding my story and I went in and they took my criminal complaint as well as all the others and he was arrested and we eventually got our money back because the restitution was put onto his probation costs.
I am old (Concert for Bangladesh and original Woodstock) and for the many concerts I went to I remember great times with bands and fans treated well (Woodstock was the only mess but performers were there and treated well). It just seems certain people and/or groups of people with great greed and little respect for music and performers go for the money and to hell with anything or anyone. Would be sad if fans were put off other legitimate festivals because of this. Thanks Tank! 😊💓
As my daughters say ..I am here for the tea ... spill it ..haha
Move BRRF to an island (Fyre Festival) and you don't need porta-potties, tents, food, or even musical acts... Sound familiar???
I have all of these exact same emails. 2 of my friends also have them.
Super bummed to hear all the negativity with what could be a sick time. I attend welcome to rockville every year, never had issues like this with them. Hopefully this show turns the corner and starts getting things right.
And you never will. DWP festivals are top tier, and I have no doubts that Welcome To Rockville will be amazing every year.
@@TankTheTech pumped to finally get to see Electic Callboy
I can vouch for the FACT that if you chargeback through Etix you WILL be blacklisted. 100%.
Like and comment to appease the almighty algorithm 😁❤️🤘🏼
I bought tickets for the Sunday of 2023 because I was going to be my only chance to see Pantera, haven’t heard anything and I’m out $150. Something needs to be done
I'm wondering if festival staff were dropping like flies for the previous 2 weeks before the infamous day Tank experienced at the show?
I had spotty - but some - cell service heading to Blue Ridge as a camper, and during the unbelievable line from hell on Wednesday there was an alert on the Blue Ridge app that they apologized for the long lines, blaming call-ins and heat illnesses for the issues. Said half their staff wasn't there at the time (around 9 PM)
We pulled up in a random field next to some porta potties, and I still remember being very satisfied after the shit show the night before that people actually cleaned the porta potties that morning. At the festival grounds, there was a small crew I remember seeing that were taking the trash, that were cleaning the area up, but they looked like they were in rough shape. They were about to pass out from heat exhaustion like the rest of us. Just looking at them, I remember asking "how can any of us do this for 4 more days?"
They didn't.
Oh wow 😢😢😢 those poor guys
Was incredibly excited to go to the 2023 festival (rip Warped Tour). My S.O. purchased our two 3-day pass tickets (Friday-Sunday) which was nearly $600 (thank god we didn’t go Thursday and have to hid in a porta-potty or under a stage like many did. Was honestly appalled at how bad it was. 2+ hours to get onto a shuttle to get into the venue, $100 for the shuttle pass for the week (oh and no service at the shuttle parking lot so hope you had them in advance). The people at the gate didn’t really check the people coming in (fun fact, my band said denied for some reason and they let us in anyway), and despite all the rules online I saw people with all kinds of stuff that wasn’t supposed to be allowed (even saw fans with suitcases walking around). There was also people saying that there were multiple people flashing weapons during Friday nights performances. They claimed online that there would be something like 12 water stations if I remember correctly, but there was only two (one of which was VIP only, and the other was incorrectly marked on the map in the festival), but it was good that I didn’t drink the free water as there was many reports of people who did drink the water getting sick (it was some kind of food poisoning if I’m remembering correctly). The way they did band merch was a joke and a real pain in the rear for all involved. Ended up leaving early on Friday (wind was picking up, and there were some dark clouds rolling in and we were concerned that we would get stuck in a repeat of Thursdays events). Only to have Saturday and Sunday (the main days we really wanted to go to) be canceled entirely due to “weather”. Filed for a refund about 2-3 weeks after getting home from the trip, and have yet to hear a single thing back (despite follow ups). Also didn’t get back the $100 shuttle fee that was only used to go to and from the festival once. Almost forgot, none of the staff I interacted with had any clue what was happening. When we left they weren’t running the busses as the venue told BRRF they weren’t allowed to bring more people in (from what I was told anyway), and when we finally got back to the parking lot the staff asked us if we were getting turned away and was shocked when I informed them they they just brought us back, and that we passed 3 full buses going into the venue. I was truly appalled, frustrated, and disappointed by the event and I will shout from the hilltops to anyone that will listen to never go or give these people who run this show a penny. They wouldn’t even mention the two girls who went missing on their official pages to offer help and make people aware of the situation. I know one was found, but never heard about the other girl. Fuck Blue Ridge
There were 2 girls missing?!? I only knew about the one that was found thankfully, but I didn't know there was another one. And i also read on reddit that there was also some possible SAs that happened as well.
The owner/organizer of the event needs to be arrested and sent to jail if he has an infamous tracklist of failing multiple festivals.
I know with a stop payment when the credit card companies pull funds, companies don’t like that and have been known to ban these customers
Surprised nobody hasn't contacted the I.R.S.
eTix told me that they are still waiting to hear from Blue Ridge.. They were not informed the festival is not happening. Hopefully we don't have to wait until September for the refunds..
According to the people from BRRF, 2024 is still anticipated to be happening. That’s probably why eTix wasn’t aware of 2024 being canceled, because it hasn’t been.
@@TimPool.BeanieCivilWarlord I might be the only one, but I hope it does happen. But I seriously doubt it will.
Please dont let people forget about this, Tank. I still havent gotten a refund like many for last year, and I got turned away before even getting in... I did not charge back with my bank because I had high hopes that BRRF would handle this. It was the first festival I have ever bought tickets to, so super disappointment and honestly how TF havent they been completely shut down yet?
I take credit cards at my business a charge back can only be done up to 6 months from the transaction. The money is taken from the seller and given back to buyer. Idk all the laws and rules but this is what I was told from my merchant company. All I have to worry about for my business is someone saying they didn’t approve the transaction so I get a copy of their license they sign that and the work order so it’s not a huge problem for me to prove it.
The tickets could be a different issue because they paid for something they didn’t get. I’m sure there is a disclaimer when buying tickets so it could be a civil matter. To be criminal it would have to be paying for something you didn’t get and not getting a refund when the disclaimer said you would in x amount of time or a law states the money needs to be refunded in x amount of time it’s not that simple but in general that’s how it works.
The credit card company goes after the merchant if you do a chargeback, and the merchant knows who it was that did the chargeback because the credit card company asks them to explain why the charge is valid.
Hi from Germany Tank🤘🏻do you still do reactions in general?? And if yes, do you still react to smaller bands?
Nevermind, i just missed out on a recent video🤘🏻
I was gonna go again even tho it was eh last time but I was working on a payment plan and come to find out they stopped selling the crap and everything so I’ve lost even more money to them
This has been so consistently bad that it's high time they were effectively shut down and those responsible being held accountable, with the possibility of being prohibited from running such affairs again.
early into the video, my guess is that their big artist is Trapt.
I'm thinking @LegalEagle could take a look at this. Like, who is liable? What parts were legal? What parts were illegal? Does he think there is grounds for a class action lawsuit? Etc.
I never went, but I feel for everyone who did go and had an awful time and got hurt by 2023 BRRF. Because it sounds like really bad management, it sounds like people who were supposed to do their jobs weren't or weren't able to, it sounds like zero communication was taking place between departments and bands. Not a business owner, either. But you'd think that having strong lines of communication would help with, “something went wrong, we need to fix this and adapt.” And it sounds like there wasn't enough preparation or work put into prep.
A potential cause to why payments are not being processed is when banks get many of their clients to cancel charges via the bank, they will flag the merchant and block further payments unless it is overridden by the client calling the bank - even then they may not be able to release thee funds, depending on how many have canceled charge processing. I feel like this may be a big reason why payments are having a hard time processing and completely understandable because this whole situation is sooooo sketchy and has Fire Festival vibes.
I get why people would buy tickets and weekend camping upgrades for festivals, but this is a problem with buying a year in advance. You never know what’s going to happen to possibly prevent you,from attending, and if you don’t pay for ticket protection you’re going to get screwed if you can’t go. Refunds will never be given freely, they’ll only be given once an event is canceled so for everyone who’s trying to do charge backs and get their money back it’s not gonna happen til there’s an official cancellation. Hell, I don’t go to festivals but I also don’t even buy concert tickets anymore until the week, or day, of the concert if I even remember to do so 😄 and if I feel like spending the money.
Hopefully every act that BRRF contacts will tell them to go pound sand.
I hope there aren't any acts locked into multi-year contracts for that cesspit.
They just keep owing more and more money 😮