Recently I hauled my 2018 Specialized Turbo Levo from South Africa to Ireland where we did a 2 month tour through the West Coast of Ireland and the Outer Hebrides... an unbelievable adventure ( jimand tess.com ). Anyway, as you suggest in the video I landed up buying a brand new battery in Dublin. I now have the problem of trying to get rid of the battery which I left with family in Midhurst. I loved having my own bike especially as I had to customise it to take rear panniers and lights. Any advice on how to sell the battery would be greatly appreciated!
If ebike hire is anything like normal bike hire in most places; bald tyres, suspension in dire need of a service, and good luck if you need a size XL. (unless you are staying with a premium holiday company, but then you’re already paying big money)
I recently spent a week in Fuerteventura and hired an ebike hard tail, orbea keram from proaction bikes in Corralejo, very friendly service and only €25 for a days hire, full tank of electric petrol BOOOOOM
I think that video pretty much conclusively shows if you are going some way that requires air travel hiring is definitely the right option. Also you get to try a different bike which I quite like the idea of. The only downer for me is I'm a heavy rider so have to have bikes that typically have higher weight limits. I'm over 100kg so I'm need to check which bikes are for hire. The certified weight limits can vary by brand by 60kg with 100kg total load including bike and accessories at the bottom and 160kg at the top. Ebikes are heavy anyway so often those electrical components eat into the total load capacity.
i drove to costa del sol for two months with two e-bikes. return trip with eurotunnel, three nights in hotels in poitiers, san sebastian and madrid plus diesel (£200) and £100 tolls. two friends flew out to join. they hired ebikes. the bikes are shit; falling apart, badly maintained, no tread on tyres. do not hire an ebike unless all you want to do is sit in cafes and mess about on fire-roads.
I was taking my diy ebike on the Santiago trail. All it bit difficult, eventually I worked out I could take two 18v drill batteries as hand luggage...only 250wh, but that was enough for a gentle ride on a road bike and the charger fills them up in 20mins.
I’m flying to the USA this weekend with Delta, they are now telling me I can’t take my e-bike even with the battery removed. When I booked the flights they were clear on bike size and weight but didn’t say there was a restriction on bikes with motors.
An extreme case for the wear and tear aspect: I live in a rather flat area where a trail bike is capable of going to the steepest park. By sticking with renting/hiring, I don't need a long suspension travel bike and can use the money of buying a bike for more trips
Great informative video guys, hire it is then for my other half and I . As you quite rightly point out our own bikes won't wear up and depreciate whilst sitting at home and travelling there and back will be so much easier to. Cost wise it appears marginal so it's a no brainer .
Interesting outlook, I am very anal about bike set up, every bike i get i raise travel, more spacers under stem and highrise bars. Same rental bike would feel foreign. Plus I dont fly so if I dont drive there with my overland rig then I dont go.
A older friend of mine from Australia, said to me I dont go on holidays to save money, I just want value for my money. But you get stung every now and again.
Do you seriously replace your brakes and tires after a week? If so, how on earth do you expect the rental bike to be as immaculately maintained as your own hardware? There's no way unless the rental company is a pure passion project operated at cost. What's the point of even buying your own bike if you're putting that much wear on it in a single trip?
@@embn My trip is in a half month, and my friends in germany said they will pay and take the bike to them and take me to them when i travel there, but i will use this videos info in other trips. Thanks again!
What if you badly scratch/ dent the frame of your hire bike. 5000 euros? Do us a favour and tell us how to send a battery. It is possible overland because I've had a few delivered to my door.
Why does every mtb video has to show damaging riding to the trails? Namely the drifting turns.... Ride sensibly respecting the environment. It will ensure trail access for future riders.
This is hilarious. You say that E-bikes are 'slightly heavier' than a real (traditional) mountain bike, yet then go on to admit they still weigh up to 24kg without a battery, lol. 😂
If you compare normal bikes to a modern carbon fiber e-bike, then the difference is 6-ish Kg, battery included. That's the difference between my Santa Cruz Nomad "normal" bike and my Pivot Shuttle e-bike. OK, well, to be frank the SC also has Hope V4 and some heavier-than-stock components on them bars, wheels, tyres, seat, stem, ... crap I replaced everything on it:) except the cranks. Sure, you can look at the Fly-on powered Haibike as well with 28Kg, but that's not the norm anymore. I could probably put my Pivot under 20Kg, but nor do I want XC brakes, nor do I want carbon wheels. The 20.5Kg is with 27.5+, 4 piston brakes, a comfy WTB seat and wider Santa Cruz bars and heavy DH flat pedals. Just saying, that the 24Kg without a battery is "up to" and not the norm in 2020
@@downhill64 How so? I'd have thought my weight remark a very valid point. How that equates to me being 'pedantic' or a 'troll' i do not know, perhaps you'd care to elaborate? 🤔
How do you prefer to travel with your e-bike? Do you haul or hire? Let us know 👇
Recently I hauled my 2018 Specialized Turbo Levo from South Africa to Ireland where we did a 2 month tour through the West Coast of Ireland and the Outer Hebrides... an unbelievable adventure ( jimand tess.com ). Anyway, as you suggest in the video I landed up buying a brand new battery in Dublin. I now have the problem of trying to get rid of the battery which I left with family in Midhurst. I loved having my own bike especially as I had to customise it to take rear panniers and lights. Any advice on how to sell the battery would be greatly appreciated!
@@jameshenryhinton We're sure you could sell it pretty easily on a large bike website or one of the big online market places.
@@embn Great... thanks.
If ebike hire is anything like normal bike hire in most places; bald tyres, suspension in dire need of a service, and good luck if you need a size XL. (unless you are staying with a premium holiday company, but then you’re already paying big money)
Most resorts have some great bike hire places. It's good to do some research before you go but still worth shop around on location.
I recently spent a week in Fuerteventura and hired an ebike hard tail, orbea keram from proaction bikes in Corralejo, very friendly service and only €25 for a days hire, full tank of electric petrol BOOOOOM
I think that video pretty much conclusively shows if you are going some way that requires air travel hiring is definitely the right option. Also you get to try a different bike which I quite like the idea of. The only downer for me is I'm a heavy rider so have to have bikes that typically have higher weight limits. I'm over 100kg so I'm need to check which bikes are for hire. The certified weight limits can vary by brand by 60kg with 100kg total load including bike and accessories at the bottom and 160kg at the top. Ebikes are heavy anyway so often those electrical components eat into the total load capacity.
cost related to living on the island... ;-) Guys living in Europe mainland might have easier life related to transportation
I've even hired just going to the peaks. The bike was absolutely covered in mud so I gave it back for them to clean . Hire has gotta be cheaper👍
My main concern with rentals is the setups may not suit like wierd grips or pedals or even just wierd geometry to my everyday bike back home 🤔
i drove to costa del sol for two months with two e-bikes. return trip with eurotunnel, three nights in hotels in poitiers, san sebastian and madrid plus diesel (£200) and £100 tolls. two friends flew out to join. they hired ebikes. the bikes are shit; falling apart, badly maintained, no tread on tyres. do not hire an ebike unless all you want to do is sit in cafes and mess about on fire-roads.
I was taking my diy ebike on the Santiago trail.
All it bit difficult, eventually I worked out I could take two 18v drill batteries as hand luggage...only 250wh, but that was enough for a gentle ride on a road bike and the charger fills them up in 20mins.
I’m flying to the USA this weekend with Delta, they are now telling me I can’t take my e-bike even with the battery removed. When I booked the flights they were clear on bike size and weight but didn’t say there was a restriction on bikes with motors.
An extreme case for the wear and tear aspect: I live in a rather flat area where a trail bike is capable of going to the steepest park. By sticking with renting/hiring, I don't need a long suspension travel bike and can use the money of buying a bike for more trips
Drive!
Haven't flown with my bike for 15 years.
Great informative video guys, hire it is then for my other half and I . As you quite rightly point out our own bikes won't wear up and depreciate whilst sitting at home and travelling there and back will be so much easier to. Cost wise it appears marginal so it's a no brainer .
Interesting outlook, I am very anal about bike set up, every bike i get i raise travel, more spacers under stem and highrise bars. Same rental bike would feel foreign. Plus I dont fly so if I dont drive there with my overland rig then I dont go.
I’ve done both but now prefer to take my own bike,
A older friend of mine from Australia, said to me I dont go on holidays to save money, I just want value for my money. But you get stung every now and again.
Do you seriously replace your brakes and tires after a week? If so, how on earth do you expect the rental bike to be as immaculately maintained as your own hardware? There's no way unless the rental company is a pure passion project operated at cost. What's the point of even buying your own bike if you're putting that much wear on it in a single trip?
Im assuming when he says hiring that means rental in American
les gets 89 euros a day all the shops charge the same.
Helped a lot, was planning going to germany
Are you still going? If so are you going to hire or haul?
@@embn My trip is in a half month, and my friends in germany said they will pay and take the bike to them and take me to them when i travel there, but i will use this videos info in other trips. Thanks again!
How about guys doing a segment EMTB carry bag range.
I’m going to Madeira in June 2 days e-bike hire and guide €80 a day
That sounds fun! 🤘
This video does not address that you cannot check your battery or carry it on with you. It has to be shipped HAZMAT which is cost prohibitive.
What’s the point of travelling with a bike that you cannot travel with in full due to airline regulations.
don't lots of companies /stores want ppl to test before you buy ?
Bike rental and a 'test ride' are two very different things. If you are staying local you could check out some demo bike options.
What about brakes the wrong way around? I've never tried it. do you get used to it quickly?
What if you badly scratch/ dent the frame of your hire bike. 5000 euros? Do us a favour and tell us how to send a battery. It is possible overland because I've had a few delivered to my door.
99% of hire bikes are insured or its 80/20 so you only pay a percentage of the damage
@@larsborgman3443 150% of statistics are made up :-) This is has not been the case with the bikes I've hired. Sources please.
Hey Dave, I think you should hire me to drive the bikes for you 😂😂
Great information to consider.
Glad you found it useful!
Do you need to wash the rent bike yourself?
Think I'd rather just go wales
Why does every mtb video has to show damaging riding to the trails? Namely the drifting turns.... Ride sensibly respecting the environment. It will ensure trail access for future riders.
so how much is it to fly a normal mountain bike overseas? non ebike
Hey Mike, that will depend on the airline and size/ weight of the bike.
£50 a day for a battery rental 😂🤣 daylight robbery
The controversy remains ... But what we know is that the cost of production for this video was much higher than the revenue it will generate...
You can not fly your e-bike: the batterie may not enter the airplane!
this is a big question, but you can send the battery with shipping company before the fly
£50 a day for a battery hirer ? ??
and 45€ for an ebike hire?!
He meant week, and his calculations were correct for weekly cost.
@@unfurling3129 🤦♂️ Thanks!
First
This is hilarious. You say that E-bikes are 'slightly heavier' than a real (traditional) mountain bike, yet then go on to admit they still weigh up to 24kg without a battery, lol. 😂
If you compare normal bikes to a modern carbon fiber e-bike, then the difference is 6-ish Kg, battery included.
That's the difference between my Santa Cruz Nomad "normal" bike and my Pivot Shuttle e-bike. OK, well, to be frank the SC also has Hope V4 and some heavier-than-stock components on them bars, wheels, tyres, seat, stem, ... crap I replaced everything on it:) except the cranks.
Sure, you can look at the Fly-on powered Haibike as well with 28Kg, but that's not the norm anymore.
I could probably put my Pivot under 20Kg, but nor do I want XC brakes, nor do I want carbon wheels. The 20.5Kg is with 27.5+, 4 piston brakes, a comfy WTB seat and wider Santa Cruz bars and heavy DH flat pedals.
Just saying, that the 24Kg without a battery is "up to" and not the norm in 2020
@@downhill64
How so? I'd have thought my weight remark a very valid point. How that equates to me being 'pedantic' or a 'troll' i do not know, perhaps you'd care to elaborate? 🤔