The Panzerhaubitze appears to be a fantastic howitzer, but in practice.... it's hard to fight with it effectively, as it's plagued by constant failures. Reliability is not a parameter that can be easily printed on an advertising flyer, like... firing range, for example.
Funny that it wasn't "plagued by constant failures" when Germany or the Netherlands used them in Afghanistan for years. And that, I might say, is even farther from the next place capable of servicing this system. I think a factor worth mentioning is that those 18 Krabs are brand new, while the PzH 2000 have been in service for 20 years. AHS Krab carries 40 rounds and has a sustained firing rate of 5 rounds per minute. So assuming a shoot-and-scoot tactic, you can expect them to shoot set up, fire 5 rounds, and get going to the next position. So 5 rounds and than several minutes for the barrel and other components to recover from the wear-and-tear on the material. A PzH 2000 has a sustained firing rate of 11 rounds per minute and carries 60 rounds. So in the same setting, they'd be firing 11-12 rounds in a minute before they move on to the next position. Twice the wear-and-tear for the barrel and other components. And according to reports, Ukrainian crews fired way beyond 100 rounds per day, for weeks. If you keep abusing a 20 year old machine like that, eventually it's going to break Also, of all SPH delivered to Ukraine, PzH 2000 has by far the longest range - 40-47km with base bleed rounds. That's evident in the fact that according to Oryx, *9 Krab have been destroyed or damaged by enemy fire* so far compared to *1 damaged PzH 2000*. www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-ukrainian.html Anyway, if they're so terrible, why did Ukraine go and order 100 new Panzerhaubitze 2000?
@@szapio8480 That doesn't change the fact that barrels and a few other mechanical parts are the bottlenecks that restricts you to to 100 or 200 rounds per day - even if the PzH 2000 could probably easily fire 10,000 a day. Except it would probably need a new barrel after the first day and would break down the second, requiring several months worth of repairs. Anyway, yes those PzH 2000 are 20 years olders - the model is 20 years older (though the models the Krab takes it's main components from aren't necessarily) and the individual German units have been in service for 20 years, while the Polish Krabs are fresh from the factory. Apart from that: where do you get this nonsense from about the PzH 2000 being slow? Do they tell you those kind of stores on Polish TV? A quick glance at Wikipedia would have told you that: a) the PzH2000 fires up to 11 rounds per minute, more than twice as much as the AHS Krab and b) both have a high-tech semi-autoloader - meaning some human participation is still required: AHS Krab ruclips.net/video/0ZHEAC41S_g/видео.html PzH 2000 ruclips.net/video/xq3vBB7dNws/видео.html
@@nupagadii5834 Honestly, I have no idea. I think normally you'd exchange the barrel every 2000 rounds or so? It's been reported though that the Russians don't mind sacrificing precision to get out more shots per barrel, since they often fire barrages by large amount of ranged artillery anyway.
U can say whatever u want about Krab. The manufacturer gives a guarantee for 2500 rounds. Some of the Krab's have up to 8,000 shots on the timer in Ukraine...
You forgot to add about the durability of the barrels, Ukraine stated that it lasted 3500 shots and continued to shoot accurately. Nobody appreciates our engineers who improve components purchased from abroad, but the war showed everything.
Lufe is made by Poland at HSW Stalowa Wola under a license purchased from the French nexter and it is our plants that do it so well. Krab has turret bae system mtu engine and Korean chassis but the electronics of the topaz system is completely Polish. We also manufacture a lot of dam structures for engines and other components from other manufacturers
Actually, you're mistaken. We (Poland) gave Ukraine 18 Krab howitzers as a gift and sold and deliver 54 at the exact moment before we even saw the money. Usually country has to wait for such a great order for about 3 years to have the weapon produced and delivered. Poland sent the howitzer taken not even from the army storage but from the regular artillery units. 72 Krab's been fighting in Ukraine for a few months already. Who helps fast helps twice.
The Polish howitzer is the best because it works in a system + command vehicles + drone reconnaissance (FLYeye from WB Electronics). In addition, the barrels are of very high quality, thanks to which the number of shots in Polish systems is 2 or even 3 times greater than in German ones.
Mr Zbyszek this comment adds much more than this whole video. I am not a soldier but a howitzer integrated with a drone is something that moves imagination
@@janmajdowski It’s much more than that. Entire Polish army has integrated Topaz on some level. It literally is Uber for artillery. Soldier can request fire support by pressing the icon of enemy vehicle on his tablet. Literally every person with a Topaz terminal has all the data from all recon (drones and regular reco) in the area. You look at the screen, see an enemy formation ahead of your unit. You don’t even know or care if it was detected by a drone, recon etc. You just pick it and press the ,,attack” button. And then the guns shell it.
god bless "ALL POLAND" for your unwavering support for "DEMOCRACY ,AND FREEDOM" from russian aggression .ALL UKRAINE THANKS YOUFOR YOUR SUPPORT. PLEASE CONSIDER SENDING TANKS.
Not anymore - barrels was made at first by Nexter, then Rheinmetall, then they made it with an licence i Poland. Then it was redesigned and is produced without license in Poland. The same case we have here in this context for other components also.
Basically HSW took the best parts they could get, improved what they could and put it together. That's why Krab is good and can do things which are not in specification, like firing faster than specs says.
They have taken the best and proven parts, as result it becomes very capable overall packagevery with high reliability also. On top, Polish TOPAZ fire control system is just brilliant.
another important factor - fire rate PZH has a higher rate of fire, but it cannot be increased due to the full automatic. There is a semi-automatic in Krab, so when the Ukrainians prepare ammunition, they exceed the rate of fire of the crab from the manual. So the Ukrainians can fire a salvo faster and run away, this is not in line with the procedure, but there are other priorities in war.
@@ArmchairAnalytic There's another factor, which is mentioned by Ukrainian soldiers: PZH due it's fully automatisation of rounds delivery system is useless when it is broken (ammo stowed under the floor). Krab's system may be completely omitted, when it's out of order and rounds may be delivered fully by hand and howitzer remains still operational.
It's both funny and exciting for me to hear about the HSW Krab on english YT channel, because Krabs are made in my home city Stalowa Wola, Poland, which is rather small and has only ~60k inhabitants. Actually the whole city is based on military industry, and it even have been founded just 1 year before WW2 in 1938 mainly to produce military stuff.
The crab's phenomenon is its guidance system. Each crab is equipped with a drone. After connecting the guidance systems, the drone controls the crab where to drive to shoot!!!!
One thing is not correct 2:33 - its not FROM a british AS-90. Its BASED on it, since Brits lost technical specs. HSW had to design it based on physical pieces. Which allowed them to improve design. Also, according to OSINT and Ukrainian troops, some AHS managed to exceed 9k rounds sometime ago, HSW guarantees 2.5k without failure :) EDIT: 18 - this was official number. By now its known that ~50 went in, at least.
All those howitzers are great and together they fill up different niches on the battlefield. But Krab of those presented is the most universal one. Also it matches perfectly the style of fighting of Ukrainian forces: shot, quickly change position, shot, quickly change position and so on... You can't do that with the french one for example... I would say the best fit for purpose is Krab and German one. But Krab wins again, due to issues mentioned in this video with the latter one.
The Polish Krab armored self propelled howitzer is a hybrid of foreign licences: Korean K9 chassis, British turret, French gun and Polish gun control electronics.
@@michaelmazowiecki9195 Tak by się mogło wydawać ale kraba cały czas produkujemy a koteańskie zakupy to taka nagła potrzeba, sami nie jesteśmy w stanie kraba szybko wyprodukować do ilości obecnie potrzebnej
WB Electronics Topaz is more than artillery calculator. It’s literally Uber but for guns. In order to request fire support all that a soldier has to do is press a button on his own Topaz terminal. And the gunners will recieve the fire mission on their terminal.
AHS Krab is the best artilery piece for Ukraine. Only Pzh 2000 is better but only on paper. In reality they break down very quickly and around 1/3 of them if not more are in constant repair and out of action.
Actually Poland gave Ukraine over 52 Krabs. It was sources from internet cameras over railways. And it main advantage besides the mentioned above is the Topaz system. All of them are connected and managed by it, allowing for unprecedented control
In data recieved from Ukrain Krab proved to be actually slightly more accurate then PZH2000 (and this is counting when it works properly), to it, it is cheaper for buy (but more expensive in long run because of the extra crew man), it is more durable also. Krab is currently proving to be superior to his german counterpart.
Experienced arty crews set the time frame to learn the basics of operating the PzH 2000 as it is meant to be at 6 months, but I read a quote from a Croatian artilleryman who said they knew how to properly operate them after 6 months of training, but it took them a year until he and his comrades had grasped all the possible capabilities of a PzH 2000 and knew how to combine and use them to best effect. Now, you might say a system with such a long learning curve - long but probably not very steep - is a liability. Learning a new weapon system shouldn't take almost half a long as learning an entirely new military occupation. Nonetheless, that's how it is, so data collected even this january would basically be data that compares (I assume) fully trained Krab and CAESAR crews with partially trained PzH 2000 crews. Apart from the fact that the data is invalid from the start since your competition is between almost factory-new systems on the one side and PzH 2000 that have been in service - at best - for 21 years, worst case for a full 25 years, potentially several summer getting scorched by the summer temperatures in Afghanistan. Armchair generals like us argue about to what extent they PzH 2000 were abused by Ukrainian arty crews. I think the Ukrainians know best, and they're the ones who decided to spend another €1.7 billion on 100 (new, not refurbished) Panzerhaubitzen 2000. As for the price, 2 of the 4 countries that joined the program since +/- 2015 bought old, refurbished units from Bundeswehr stocks. Only Hungary and Qatar ordered 24 newly produced units each. Croatia for example chose 12 old ones from Bundeswehr stock, refurbished and modernized, along with 4 additional units delivered "as is" for spare parts and training. The whole package cost them merely €55 million. Considering the 4 units to be used for parts are a necessity to keep the modernized 12 howitzers operational for another say 15 years, that's still less than €5 million per unit. Which shows that there are cheaper options for smaller countries, though I doubt Germany will sell off any more units. From what I've read they will conduct a thorough, joint "mid-life extension" program on their remaining fleet, keep some 110+ units active and complement them with an equal number of RCH 155 - of which Ukraine ordered another 18 units for €12 million per unit. I think that it makes more sense to compare the Krab to the RCH 155 than it's predecessor from 25 years ago. And once they'll finally get delivered, I'll be very interested to see if all these new technologies that KMW has been working on basically for 20 years are actually coming together in this configuration. Part of their approach was to take the gun and all related mechanical parts from the PzH2000, make the loader entirely autonomous (which is already an option for the most recent PzH 2000 I think) and combine their proprietary hard- and software in one module, the AGM. Recent years have seen experiments on using the AGM on ships, as well as different mounting platforms - the first one was the carrier for the M270, until about 15 years ago development included a version using the ASCOD 2 platform (dubbed "Donar") but ever since they seem to have finally decided on the Boxer chassis, maybe with version mounted on their own HX3 military truck line as a side project. I have no information if RCH 155 improves the already exceptional precision achievable with a PzH2000, but other performance markers seem more like they're a tad of a step back compared to the PzH 2000. However, as we've discussed, the PzH 2000 already crosses IMO the line where more firepower/frequency is actually usefull, given the artillery is limited severely in the number of shells it can fire per day. So if the RCH 155 fires 9 instead of 10.5 rounds per minute, that may not be all that relevant. As for range, again it seems the RCH 155 barely reaches the performance of the PzH 2000 - though maybe future iterations will push the envelope there, same as it was with the PzH 2000. Boat-tail ammunition fired from an early model of the PzH 2000 also had a range given of 40km, which was later corrected to 40-47km. Whether the reason was a real hardware improvement, software update, new ammunition type or simply the result of taking on targets beyond 40km on test ranges and finding it didn't cause any damage to the hardware, I don't know. Anyway, apart from possibly being a bit slower and (more significant) potentially a bit shorter on range than it's daddy, the RCH 155 comes with some massive innovations that are so far unique in any artillery system on the market. First of all, they reduce the complement per unit by 60%, and if they manage to make the RCH 155 even remotely like other Boxer modules that can be exchanged within hours, if they get it down to 2 days say, that would provide enormous flexibility to artillery units to quickly field more units if necessary - and prepare for it not by having load and loads of additional SPH that need maintenance, etc - just by buying more AGM modules to use on other Boxer frames - troop transport, fire support, reconaissance, IFV, or even Skyrangers. The Bundeswehr has hundreds for different roles. Imagine if you can turn your SHORAD system into a howitzer or an IFV, depending on your need. And I thought Transformers existed only in the movies. Then there is the option to control the RCH 155 remotely. Which creates entire new possibilities. Imagine in the early days in Ukraine, as the Russians were advancing rather swiftly at certain fronts. If the Ukrainian army had been equipped with the RCH 155, they could have just left half a dozen of them behind, hiddden in a barn - only to activate them, let them spread out over the occupied territory and create havoc at dozens of positions, creating the impression of successful attacks at one place, draw all available reinforcements - before actually attacking from entirely different position. The resupply is also entirely automated. The resupply vehicle connects to the RCH 155 back-to-back and automatically transfers new shells and charge packages - and I guess fuel as well. That would mean you could keep your artillery constantly on the move, no need to pause for the crew to rest, and even if one gets spotted, what are the chances Russian artillery will hit a moving target? Even if they let a whole battery fire a volley, by the time those shells hit the ground, even if the RCH 155 is moving at only 10 km/h while firing, it would be 500m away by then.
@@hisredrighthand5212 learning curve for both systems is the same. If an unexperienced crew managed to get better resoults with lower logistical problems at the same time, then it is an indicator that, this system is better. Btw Ukrainians both a 5 year production plan of Krabs from HSW and they got most of Polish ones (i think 80 or so). So still Ukrain will focus on Krab with PZH2000 just as support (as Poland cant produce them faster or more, and its one of the reasons why they are buying K9's from Korea).
@@T0ffik1 If you don't mind me asking, your estimate that the learning curve for AHS Krab and the 20 year older PzH 2000... is based on what? Have you done MOS artillerist training, followed by a year of service in two different armies, one that uses the Krab (well, that would leave only Poland then) and one that uses the PzH 2000? Otherwise the statement is just nonsense, no offense, the learning curve for any two complex artillery systems will be different. 54 AHS Krab were transferred to the Ukrainian Armed Forces so far, and 28 PzH 2000 (initially 7+5 by DE+NL, followed by 3+3 by DE+NL, finally another 4 by DE and 6 by IT). And I think the fact that Ukrainian crews managed to break 6 of the initial 12 systems in less than 8 weeks despite video-assistance from the artillery center in Idar-Oberstein kinda proves my point that it's a significantly more complex system. As do the statements by Croatian artillerists describing the change in the results they achieved after 6 months of training compared to another 6 months of practice. Then there remains the fact that the AHS Krabs were new, while the first batch of German PzH2000 was not only 20+ years old, but the units came from storage, not even from active service. Finally, out of 54 AHS Krab, 7 were destroyed and 2 were damaged, while out of 28 PzH 2000 1 was damaged, as was 1 SPH CAESAR. www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-ukrainian.html I guess part of that difference would be due to half of those PzH 2000 being absent several weeks for repairs. 18 CAESAR however were not in repair, and you would expect from the numbers fielded to have 3 of them destroyed/damaged. I'd guess an additional factor in greater losses to enemy fire were probably differences in range. If a PzH 2000 or a CAESAR fires a projectile from 36km, while an AHS Krab fires from 30km, that adds about 1200km² that the enemy has to scout to locate the unit firing from 36km distance. The part about why 118 PzH2000/RCH155 are meant as a support element to 60 ordered AHS Krab I didn't quite get. Didn't quite get the part about why Poland ordered 648 K9 Thunder, either. I mean, the first batch of 212 K9 Thunder will be delivered until 2026, but the remaining 436 will be produced in Poland in facilities that will be purpose-built until then. Seems to me they could have built at least the same production capabilities for the AHS Krab in that time. So I understand why Poland decided to purchase 212 K9 to backfill their own artillery, but I fail to understand why they chose to continue to locally produce a foreign howitzer instead of their own domestic development. If I were a potential customer, I'd ask myself why Poland chose a foreign system over their own.
@@hisredrighthand5212 Im sorry how do you estimate that first of all Krab is 20yo? the project was started 20y ago, the first krab is 9yo... 2nd of all how do you estimate that outside of autoloading mechinism PZH is more advanced (and till now it seems it is a regression and not update)? Krab has basicly all the same functions and it got delivered with all the equipment except comunicating system that is specific only for Poland. Till now data from Ukrain shows that Krab is has accurate targeting/gun system that also can work for 8000-9000 shots (what was proven in ukrain - althrough warranty is up to 2500), and no braking autoloader. Till now you cant even dat when the Krab was made and yet you talk like you know anything. Please read about Krab first then talk. Btw till now im basing on Ukrain delivered data + actually being in army as im from a 3 generation army family (and half of my family sits either on tanks or on mobile arty. Im in a tank unit).
@@T0ffik1 That's a misunderstanding, I wrote that PzH2000 is 20 years older. Which is only a rough estimate. 185 PzH 2000 were ordered in 1996 and delivered until around 2000 afaik. As for the Krab, from what I understand there were a number of different prototypes based on different barrels and chassis being tested, but according to Wikipedia, regarding the decision for the K9 chassis and it's delivery it says: _"It went through type acceptance testing in October 2015. The test ended successfully in April 2016, allowing series production. In April 2016, the Ministry of National Defence and the manufacturer concluded the research and development phase."_ Subsequently, five regiments were provided with 24 new AHS Krab each, one regiment per year. That's how I end up with 20 years: cleared for series production in 1996 (PzH 2000) and 2016 (AHS Krab), followed by the rollout of newly produced units in the following 4-5 years. As for being more advanced, I was thinking about rate of fire, range, etc. But I don't have any firsthand experience, while you seem to have plenty. So who am I to tell you about your profession? I guess they're roughly similar, no? As for the breakage of the autoloader, I have no way of verifying whether that was as stated by the German side due to excessive strain from too many rounds being fired per day and repeated attempts to go beyond the allowed range by using additional propelling charges - or if the autoloader is just too frail for the conditions of months-long artillery duels, I have no way of knowing. Maybe the units were just too old and worn down. P.S.: Thank you for your service, deterring the Russians from attacking Europe & protecting us all from living under Russian tyranny. My mother's family fled from East Germany in the late 1950s when the Berlin wall had not been built yet. They didn't want to live under the Russian's thumb and I assume they had good reasons that are probably no less valid today. Edit 1: All the bickering about which howitzer is better notwithstanding, it's remarkable how Poland has managed to build a modern defense industry in such a short time span. Now that Germany has a decent defense minister (I think) I hope he will fix the terrible mistake of his predecessors and introduce a separate Air Defense Wing in the Bundeswehr again. A good place to start would be buying a dozen PSR-A Pilica or two from Polish PGZ. Beautiful system. Would be ideal to shoot down Iranian Shahed-136 drones in Ukraine.
THERE IS MORE THEN 70 KRAB in Ukraine 54 were given at 10.oct.22 (Confirmed „Rammstein 6”)( not 18) also some unofficial information is confined extra 20 plus Ukraine -ordered 54. Krab is the most popular 155 in Ukraine
You forgot to mention that - according to Ukrainian soldiers at least - AHS Krab can fire a few thousand rounds and still be operational while vaunted PzH 2000 can fire only a few hundred rounds before it needs to have its barrel replaced.
Sorry, that is nonsense. Ukrainians fire several hundred shots per day with every artillery system, which means the PZH2000 would need a new barrel almost every day. Do you really think that's accurate? The manufacturer's guarantee for the PZH2000 is 4,500 shots before the barrel should be replaced and some Ukrainian crews have fired 20,000 shots with one barrel. Use google "Ukrainian PzH 2000 ... Having Fired 20,000 Rounds Already."
Well, Ukrfaine got 70 Krabs months ago, beside that 80 akacja units were delivered. Nobody talks about that, since its not broadcasted in news. Polish military experts already confirmed those numbers. 70 working Krabs are much better than 6/12 working Pz2000, simple
Correction: The K-9 is not from Samsung. Hanwha acquired the company, specifically Samsung Techwin, in 2014. Hanwha is now manufacturing the AS-21 Redback IFV, K-239 Chunmoo MLRS, AESA radar for KF-21 Boramae, etc as well as K-9 Thunder SPG 2:22
and PZH2000 have held over 20,000 shots. The pipes are actually the same because both come from Rheinmetall. A lot depends on the ammunition and powder used. But Krab has a very good ability - it can work together with drones and use them to pick up and attack targets in the fire system. A very big advantage for the PZH2000 is the additional "hedgehog" armor, which works great against bomblets and small anti-tank weapons. Germany now has a program running to increase the range - up to 150km, there is even a PZH2000 which can shoot at 100km, with a larger chamber and then with more powder. The value of 2000 or 3000 rounds is only valid for peacetime and is a guaranteed minimum value. As I said, in Ukraine PZH2000 have already had over 20,000 shots and only then were the tubes replaced. Funny information - T-72 tank has warranty only for 70 rounds, after that you have to change barrel lol
On 15.02.2023 Polish government announced a subsidy to HSW of USD 400 million, for increasing its production capacity. So, I hope Russians like 155mm shells served by Krab.
2:47 That's the caption of the former chasis of the KRAB, and it's biggest weaknes - complete lack of stability. UPG (thats what it's called) was still adopted as a command and ammunition vehicle.
This is kind of secure information, when country donates something to Ukraine it cant really say what kind of equipment and how much they donated because it could be a useful information to Russia maybe they even donated 150 of these, who knows
Nice work Ukraine -making a 50km shot from a 40km rated barrel! I'm assuming you poured some vodka on the shell before firing? I wish you good hunting!
@@jakub8623 bo żadna inna partia nie zrobiła by tyle dla Ukrainy. Konfa jest prorosyjska, a PO proniemiecka (Niemcom przebieg wojny bardzo się nie podoba🙂) PiS zaś jest proanglosaski a do tego ma rachunki do wyrównania z Rosjanami🙂
chassis - South Korean K9 Thunder turret - British BAE Systems AS-90M long gun - 155mm/52-calibre Nexter Systems engine - STX Engine/MTU Friedrichshafen
like most cars in the world, the most important thing is to assemble these parts so that they work well together. Besides, without the excellent Polish TOPAZ fire system, these gun-howitzers would be useless
Yup. HSW took the best parts they could get, add some modifications, Polish fire control system, and put it together. There was actually a lot of controversy during the development process, but it turns out they developed a good weapon, and worth every coin spent.
Poland repeatedly failed to develop a self-propelled howitzer body for 20 years and asked Hanwha Defense, a S.Korea company, to perfectly combine the K9-based body with a British-made turret, and finally the Krab was born.However, since parts from many countries are imported and assembled, the price is high and productivity is reduced.
Napoleon also said that he would rather have 30 Poles with him in the war than 300 other soldiers... why? Because we do not ask for freedom, we always fight for it. look : ruclips.net/video/7SpddNW7a3k/видео.html
Jarosław Wolski na kanale "Wolski o wojnie" podał swego czasu ,że naliczył 54 sztuki po kamerkach z autostrad, które dopiero po telefonie do niego , z ministerstwa , wyłączyli je na czas transportów.
@@dangozdzik200 chyba ze te kmerki staly na granicy bo inaczej mogly jechac na poligon. Jesli by oddali 60 plus gozdziki to artylerzysci mogli by isc na urlop bezplatny
The Pzh2000 has a manufacturer guarantee of 4500 shots, not 2000, and some Ukrainian crews have fired 20,000 shots before replacing the barrel (use google, you'll find sources)
NL and GER KMW and Rheinmetall wanted to create a repair centre in PL / HSW. Poland (PIS) doesn't want. Bad for Ukraine. Now Sowakia allow the Service Center.
Germans received a list of potential places to locate the repair center, unfortunately for them they were unsatisfactory and demanded that the repair center be located on the premises of the Polish army units responsible for the transfer of equipment to Ukraine, such a location under normal conditions was unacceptable for security reasons (presence of private person from another country on the premises of a military base), and in particular locating German civilian personnel, due to the close cooperation of German business with Russia
"Poland (PiS) doesn't want. Bad for Ukraine." - good for Poland. Germany is losing importance in Europe, and Poland is gaining. If it was done as in the case of the Poland-Korea deal, it's ok, but otherwise let Germany look for fools elsewhere. Times are changing/have changed.
lets not go into competing each other but combine all those great weapons to a swift striking Ukrainian army, knocking the russian nazi's out of Ukraine in the third quarter of 2023. Slava Ukraini!
The Panzerhaubitze appears to be a fantastic howitzer, but in practice.... it's hard to fight with it effectively, as it's plagued by constant failures. Reliability is not a parameter that can be easily printed on an advertising flyer, like... firing range, for example.
Funny that it wasn't "plagued by constant failures" when Germany or the Netherlands used them in Afghanistan for years. And that, I might say, is even farther from the next place capable of servicing this system.
I think a factor worth mentioning is that those 18 Krabs are brand new, while the PzH 2000 have been in service for 20 years.
AHS Krab carries 40 rounds and has a sustained firing rate of 5 rounds per minute. So assuming a shoot-and-scoot tactic, you can expect them to shoot set up, fire 5 rounds, and get going to the next position. So 5 rounds and than several minutes for the barrel and other components to recover from the wear-and-tear on the material.
A PzH 2000 has a sustained firing rate of 11 rounds per minute and carries 60 rounds. So in the same setting, they'd be firing 11-12 rounds in a minute before they move on to the next position. Twice the wear-and-tear for the barrel and other components. And according to reports, Ukrainian crews fired way beyond 100 rounds per day, for weeks. If you keep abusing a 20 year old machine like that, eventually it's going to break
Also, of all SPH delivered to Ukraine, PzH 2000 has by far the longest range - 40-47km with base bleed rounds. That's evident in the fact that according to Oryx, *9 Krab have been destroyed or damaged by enemy fire* so far compared to *1 damaged PzH 2000*. www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-ukrainian.html
Anyway, if they're so terrible, why did Ukraine go and order 100 new Panzerhaubitze 2000?
@@szapio8480 That doesn't change the fact that barrels and a few other mechanical parts are the bottlenecks that restricts you to to 100 or 200 rounds per day - even if the PzH 2000 could probably easily fire 10,000 a day. Except it would probably need a new barrel after the first day and would break down the second, requiring several months worth of repairs.
Anyway, yes those PzH 2000 are 20 years olders - the model is 20 years older (though the models the Krab takes it's main components from aren't necessarily) and the individual German units have been in service for 20 years, while the Polish Krabs are fresh from the factory.
Apart from that: where do you get this nonsense from about the PzH 2000 being slow? Do they tell you those kind of stores on Polish TV? A quick glance at Wikipedia would have told you that:
a) the PzH2000 fires up to 11 rounds per minute, more than twice as much as the AHS Krab
and
b) both have a high-tech semi-autoloader - meaning some human participation is still required:
AHS Krab
ruclips.net/video/0ZHEAC41S_g/видео.html
PzH 2000
ruclips.net/video/xq3vBB7dNws/видео.html
Moreover, is PzH 2000 can do over 6500+ shots per barrel ? ? ? I don't think so.....
@@hisredrighthand5212 Welcome to high intensity battles, not some VS sand people.
@@nupagadii5834 Honestly, I have no idea. I think normally you'd exchange the barrel every 2000 rounds or so? It's been reported though that the Russians don't mind sacrificing precision to get out more shots per barrel, since they often fire barrages by large amount of ranged artillery anyway.
Respect for Poland from Argentina...
U can say whatever u want about Krab. The manufacturer gives a guarantee for 2500 rounds. Some of the Krab's have up to 8,000 shots on the timer in Ukraine...
You forgot to add about the durability of the barrels, Ukraine stated that it lasted 3500 shots and continued to shoot accurately. Nobody appreciates our engineers who improve components purchased from abroad, but the war showed everything.
True👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
the barrel isnt polish it is made by bae systems. The engine also comes from mtu
Lufe is made by Poland at HSW Stalowa Wola under a license purchased from the French nexter and it is our plants that do it so well. Krab has turret bae system mtu engine and Korean chassis but the electronics of the topaz system is completely Polish. We also manufacture a lot of dam structures for engines and other components from other manufacturers
@@rsmechanika 100/100...👍
@@pepe_6931 bae systems to rysunki techniczne\ specyfikacja. Jakość wykonania, modyfikacje, technologia polskie zakłady zbrojeniowe.
Actually, you're mistaken. We (Poland) gave Ukraine 18 Krab howitzers as a gift and sold and deliver 54 at the exact moment before we even saw the money. Usually country has to wait for such a great order for about 3 years to have the weapon produced and delivered. Poland sent the howitzer taken not even from the army storage but from the regular artillery units. 72 Krab's been fighting in Ukraine for a few months already. Who helps fast helps twice.
For context it represents sum total of Poland's NATO compatible artillery.
The Polish howitzer is the best because it works in a system + command vehicles + drone reconnaissance (FLYeye from WB Electronics). In addition, the barrels are of very high quality, thanks to which the number of shots in Polish systems is 2 or even 3 times greater than in German ones.
And the system is very easy to use. Like dron operator just put finger on map and drone goest there by himself. Is't TOPAZ system if i'm, right.
Mr Zbyszek this comment adds much more than this whole video. I am not a soldier but a howitzer integrated with a drone is something that moves imagination
@@janmajdowski It’s much more than that. Entire Polish army has integrated Topaz on some level. It literally is Uber for artillery. Soldier can request fire support by pressing the icon of enemy vehicle on his tablet.
Literally every person with a Topaz terminal has all the data from all recon (drones and regular reco) in the area.
You look at the screen, see an enemy formation ahead of your unit. You don’t even know or care if it was detected by a drone, recon etc. You just pick it and press the ,,attack” button. And then the guns shell it.
god bless "ALL POLAND" for your unwavering support for "DEMOCRACY ,AND FREEDOM" from russian aggression .ALL UKRAINE THANKS YOUFOR YOUR SUPPORT. PLEASE CONSIDER SENDING TANKS.
we've sent more tanks than all of other countries combine, 300+ and more coming.
The Krabs also have a Canadian made hot water dispenser. For coffee/tea/soup and clean up. A real plus in winter conditions!
And for hot summer times air conditioner is also the winner!😁
@@ArmchairAnalytic We can ofc smile counting Ukraine needs, but it is important.
whole Howitzer is manufactured only in Poland from Polish made components.
Krab uses the AS90 turret, but no gun. The gun was designed by HSW using the French Nexter barrel
Over 6500+ shots per barrel - that's impressive.
It started out as an AS90 turret , but was then redesigned, enlarged and given a completely new "mechanics".
Not anymore - barrels was made at first by Nexter, then Rheinmetall, then they made it with an licence i Poland. Then it was redesigned and is produced without license in Poland. The same case we have here in this context for other components also.
Only the pre 2016 versions have the french barrels. Current versions have rheinmetall ones
You forgot the most important feature of AHS Krab: it has water boiler, so soldiers can make hot coffee during break 🙂
There are at least 50+ Krabs sent to Ukraine already (some say it is closer to 70).
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Officially 18 and unofficially 54
Poles monitored the flow of equipment on cameras along highways.
Good to know👍
Basically HSW took the best parts they could get, improved what they could and put it together. That's why Krab is good and can do things which are not in specification, like firing faster than specs says.
Yes
They have taken the best and proven parts, as result it becomes very capable overall packagevery with high reliability also. On top, Polish TOPAZ fire control system is just brilliant.
@@KarsonNow Topaz is literally Uber but for artillery. The thing is awesome.
another important factor - fire rate
PZH has a higher rate of fire, but it cannot be increased due to the full automatic. There is a semi-automatic in Krab, so when the Ukrainians prepare ammunition, they exceed the rate of fire of the crab from the manual. So the Ukrainians can fire a salvo faster and run away, this is not in line with the procedure, but there are other priorities in war.
Good point! I should’ve included it in the video😁
@@ArmchairAnalytic There's another factor, which is mentioned by Ukrainian soldiers: PZH due it's fully automatisation of rounds delivery system is useless when it is broken (ammo stowed under the floor). Krab's system may be completely omitted, when it's out of order and rounds may be delivered fully by hand and howitzer remains still operational.
It's both funny and exciting for me to hear about the HSW Krab on english YT channel, because Krabs are made in my home city Stalowa Wola, Poland, which is rather small and has only ~60k inhabitants. Actually the whole city is based on military industry, and it even have been founded just 1 year before WW2 in 1938 mainly to produce military stuff.
Thats cool bro! You can proud of your city!
Pozdro dla Stalówki. Uwielbiałem ludzi od Was podk....ać pytaniem, czy jesteście dumni, że to u Was Chopin się urodził 😛
@@StanTheMan59 tak, w czołgu się urodził XD
Greetings from Poland. I hope the Krabs (the Polish word meaning crabs) will soon help the brave Ukrainian soldiers reach the Back Sea beaches. :)
The crab's phenomenon is its guidance system. Each crab is equipped with a drone. After connecting the guidance systems, the drone controls the crab where to drive to shoot!!!!
One thing is not correct 2:33 - its not FROM a british AS-90. Its BASED on it, since Brits lost technical specs. HSW had to design it based on physical pieces. Which allowed them to improve design.
Also, according to OSINT and Ukrainian troops, some AHS managed to exceed 9k rounds sometime ago, HSW guarantees 2.5k without failure :)
EDIT:
18 - this was official number. By now its known that ~50 went in, at least.
One of Polish journalists claim that almost 70 Krabs were delivered until September 2022.
Głupie Polskie świnie lubią umierać za banderowców, którzy rozdarli brzuszki małym Polakom,LOL.Chwała Banderze!Lwów to Ukraina!
@@джоникмнемоник-х9б You just earned bag of groat. Good job Propagandalf. Reality we are not as dumb as vatniks to fall for such BS....
4 x 18 pcs. Four full units with vommand vechicles and ammo truck.
4 x 18 pcs. Four full units with command vechicles and ammo truck.
2:07 Hey! You actually did a pretty good job reading in polish.
Haha! Thanks!
@@ArmchairAnalytic i confirm
All those howitzers are great and together they fill up different niches on the battlefield. But Krab of those presented is the most universal one. Also it matches perfectly the style of fighting of Ukrainian forces: shot, quickly change position, shot, quickly change position and so on...
You can't do that with the french one for example... I would say the best fit for purpose is Krab and German one. But Krab wins again, due to issues mentioned in this video with the latter one.
The Polish Krab armored self propelled howitzer is a hybrid of foreign licences: Korean K9 chassis, British turret, French gun and Polish gun control electronics.
Dokładnie, pozbieraliśmy to co najlepsze i dodaliśmy nasz system kierowania ogniem, i to wszystko produkowane w naszym kraju.
@@jaro324 i zamiast rozwinąć produkcję Kraba w kraju to kupujemy haubice K9 w setkach sztuk od Korei co jest nonsensem.
@@michaelmazowiecki9195
Tak by się mogło wydawać ale kraba cały czas produkujemy a koteańskie zakupy to taka nagła potrzeba, sami nie jesteśmy w stanie kraba szybko wyprodukować do ilości obecnie potrzebnej
@@jaro324 główne dostawy K9 będą dopiero po zbudowaniu fabryki w Polsce a Krabow można było rozbudować od roku.
@@michaelmazowiecki9195
TY chyba nie wiesz w ogóle o co kaman w tym wszystkim??
WB Electronics Topaz is more than artillery calculator. It’s literally Uber but for guns. In order to request fire support all that a soldier has to do is press a button on his own Topaz terminal. And the gunners will recieve the fire mission on their terminal.
AHS Krab is the best artilery piece for Ukraine. Only Pzh 2000 is better but only on paper. In reality they break down very quickly and around 1/3 of them if not more are in constant repair and out of action.
Actually Poland gave Ukraine over 52 Krabs. It was sources from internet cameras over railways. And it main advantage besides the mentioned above is the Topaz system. All of them are connected and managed by it, allowing for unprecedented control
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In data recieved from Ukrain Krab proved to be actually slightly more accurate then PZH2000 (and this is counting when it works properly), to it, it is cheaper for buy (but more expensive in long run because of the extra crew man), it is more durable also. Krab is currently proving to be superior to his german counterpart.
Experienced arty crews set the time frame to learn the basics of operating the PzH 2000 as it is meant to be at 6 months, but I read a quote from a Croatian artilleryman who said they knew how to properly operate them after 6 months of training, but it took them a year until he and his comrades had grasped all the possible capabilities of a PzH 2000 and knew how to combine and use them to best effect.
Now, you might say a system with such a long learning curve - long but probably not very steep - is a liability. Learning a new weapon system shouldn't take almost half a long as learning an entirely new military occupation. Nonetheless, that's how it is, so data collected even this january would basically be data that compares (I assume) fully trained Krab and CAESAR crews with partially trained PzH 2000 crews. Apart from the fact that the data is invalid from the start since your competition is between almost factory-new systems on the one side and PzH 2000 that have been in service - at best - for 21 years, worst case for a full 25 years, potentially several summer getting scorched by the summer temperatures in Afghanistan.
Armchair generals like us argue about to what extent they PzH 2000 were abused by Ukrainian arty crews. I think the Ukrainians know best, and they're the ones who decided to spend another €1.7 billion on 100 (new, not refurbished) Panzerhaubitzen 2000. As for the price, 2 of the 4 countries that joined the program since +/- 2015 bought old, refurbished units from Bundeswehr stocks. Only Hungary and Qatar ordered 24 newly produced units each.
Croatia for example chose 12 old ones from Bundeswehr stock, refurbished and modernized, along with 4 additional units delivered "as is" for spare parts and training. The whole package cost them merely €55 million. Considering the 4 units to be used for parts are a necessity to keep the modernized 12 howitzers operational for another say 15 years, that's still less than €5 million per unit. Which shows that there are cheaper options for smaller countries, though I doubt Germany will sell off any more units. From what I've read they will conduct a thorough, joint "mid-life extension" program on their remaining fleet, keep some 110+ units active and complement them with an equal number of RCH 155 - of which Ukraine ordered another 18 units for €12 million per unit. I think that it makes more sense to compare the Krab to the RCH 155 than it's predecessor from 25 years ago.
And once they'll finally get delivered, I'll be very interested to see if all these new technologies that KMW has been working on basically for 20 years are actually coming together in this configuration. Part of their approach was to take the gun and all related mechanical parts from the PzH2000, make the loader entirely autonomous (which is already an option for the most recent PzH 2000 I think) and combine their proprietary hard- and software in one module, the AGM. Recent years have seen experiments on using the AGM on ships, as well as different mounting platforms - the first one was the carrier for the M270, until about 15 years ago development included a version using the ASCOD 2 platform (dubbed "Donar") but ever since they seem to have finally decided on the Boxer chassis, maybe with version mounted on their own HX3 military truck line as a side project.
I have no information if RCH 155 improves the already exceptional precision achievable with a PzH2000, but other performance markers seem more like they're a tad of a step back compared to the PzH 2000. However, as we've discussed, the PzH 2000 already crosses IMO the line where more firepower/frequency is actually usefull, given the artillery is limited severely in the number of shells it can fire per day. So if the RCH 155 fires 9 instead of 10.5 rounds per minute, that may not be all that relevant. As for range, again it seems the RCH 155 barely reaches the performance of the PzH 2000 - though maybe future iterations will push the envelope there, same as it was with the PzH 2000. Boat-tail ammunition fired from an early model of the PzH 2000 also had a range given of 40km, which was later corrected to 40-47km. Whether the reason was a real hardware improvement, software update, new ammunition type or simply the result of taking on targets beyond 40km on test ranges and finding it didn't cause any damage to the hardware, I don't know.
Anyway, apart from possibly being a bit slower and (more significant) potentially a bit shorter on range than it's daddy, the RCH 155 comes with some massive innovations that are so far unique in any artillery system on the market. First of all, they reduce the complement per unit by 60%, and if they manage to make the RCH 155 even remotely like other Boxer modules that can be exchanged within hours, if they get it down to 2 days say, that would provide enormous flexibility to artillery units to quickly field more units if necessary - and prepare for it not by having load and loads of additional SPH that need maintenance, etc - just by buying more AGM modules to use on other Boxer frames - troop transport, fire support, reconaissance, IFV, or even Skyrangers. The Bundeswehr has hundreds for different roles. Imagine if you can turn your SHORAD system into a howitzer or an IFV, depending on your need. And I thought Transformers existed only in the movies. Then there is the option to control the RCH 155 remotely. Which creates entire new possibilities. Imagine in the early days in Ukraine, as the Russians were advancing rather swiftly at certain fronts. If the Ukrainian army had been equipped with the RCH 155, they could have just left half a dozen of them behind, hiddden in a barn - only to activate them, let them spread out over the occupied territory and create havoc at dozens of positions, creating the impression of successful attacks at one place, draw all available reinforcements - before actually attacking from entirely different position. The resupply is also entirely automated. The resupply vehicle connects to the RCH 155 back-to-back and automatically transfers new shells and charge packages - and I guess fuel as well. That would mean you could keep your artillery constantly on the move, no need to pause for the crew to rest, and even if one gets spotted, what are the chances Russian artillery will hit a moving target? Even if they let a whole battery fire a volley, by the time those shells hit the ground, even if the RCH 155 is moving at only 10 km/h while firing, it would be 500m away by then.
@@hisredrighthand5212 learning curve for both systems is the same. If an unexperienced crew managed to get better resoults with lower logistical problems at the same time, then it is an indicator that, this system is better.
Btw Ukrainians both a 5 year production plan of Krabs from HSW and they got most of Polish ones (i think 80 or so). So still Ukrain will focus on Krab with PZH2000 just as support (as Poland cant produce them faster or more, and its one of the reasons why they are buying K9's from Korea).
@@T0ffik1 If you don't mind me asking, your estimate that the learning curve for AHS Krab and the 20 year older PzH 2000... is based on what? Have you done MOS artillerist training, followed by a year of service in two different armies, one that uses the Krab (well, that would leave only Poland then) and one that uses the PzH 2000? Otherwise the statement is just nonsense, no offense, the learning curve for any two complex artillery systems will be different.
54 AHS Krab were transferred to the Ukrainian Armed Forces so far, and 28 PzH 2000 (initially 7+5 by DE+NL, followed by 3+3 by DE+NL, finally another 4 by DE and 6 by IT). And I think the fact that Ukrainian crews managed to break 6 of the initial 12 systems in less than 8 weeks despite video-assistance from the artillery center in Idar-Oberstein kinda proves my point that it's a significantly more complex system. As do the statements by Croatian artillerists describing the change in the results they achieved after 6 months of training compared to another 6 months of practice.
Then there remains the fact that the AHS Krabs were new, while the first batch of German PzH2000 was not only 20+ years old, but the units came from storage, not even from active service.
Finally, out of 54 AHS Krab, 7 were destroyed and 2 were damaged, while out of 28 PzH 2000 1 was damaged, as was 1 SPH CAESAR. www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-ukrainian.html
I guess part of that difference would be due to half of those PzH 2000 being absent several weeks for repairs. 18 CAESAR however were not in repair, and you would expect from the numbers fielded to have 3 of them destroyed/damaged. I'd guess an additional factor in greater losses to enemy fire were probably differences in range. If a PzH 2000 or a CAESAR fires a projectile from 36km, while an AHS Krab fires from 30km, that adds about 1200km² that the enemy has to scout to locate the unit firing from 36km distance.
The part about why 118 PzH2000/RCH155 are meant as a support element to 60 ordered AHS Krab I didn't quite get.
Didn't quite get the part about why Poland ordered 648 K9 Thunder, either. I mean, the first batch of 212 K9 Thunder will be delivered until 2026, but the remaining 436 will be produced in Poland in facilities that will be purpose-built until then. Seems to me they could have built at least the same production capabilities for the AHS Krab in that time. So I understand why Poland decided to purchase 212 K9 to backfill their own artillery, but I fail to understand why they chose to continue to locally produce a foreign howitzer instead of their own domestic development. If I were a potential customer, I'd ask myself why Poland chose a foreign system over their own.
@@hisredrighthand5212 Im sorry how do you estimate that first of all Krab is 20yo? the project was started 20y ago, the first krab is 9yo... 2nd of all how do you estimate that outside of autoloading mechinism PZH is more advanced (and till now it seems it is a regression and not update)? Krab has basicly all the same functions and it got delivered with all the equipment except comunicating system that is specific only for Poland. Till now data from Ukrain shows that Krab is has accurate targeting/gun system that also can work for 8000-9000 shots (what was proven in ukrain - althrough warranty is up to 2500), and no braking autoloader. Till now you cant even dat when the Krab was made and yet you talk like you know anything. Please read about Krab first then talk.
Btw till now im basing on Ukrain delivered data + actually being in army as im from a 3 generation army family (and half of my family sits either on tanks or on mobile arty. Im in a tank unit).
@@T0ffik1 That's a misunderstanding, I wrote that PzH2000 is 20 years older. Which is only a rough estimate. 185 PzH 2000 were ordered in 1996 and delivered until around 2000 afaik. As for the Krab, from what I understand there were a number of different prototypes based on different barrels and chassis being tested, but according to Wikipedia, regarding the decision for the K9 chassis and it's delivery it says: _"It went through type acceptance testing in October 2015. The test ended successfully in April 2016, allowing series production. In April 2016, the Ministry of National Defence and the manufacturer concluded the research and development phase."_ Subsequently, five regiments were provided with 24 new AHS Krab each, one regiment per year. That's how I end up with 20 years: cleared for series production in 1996 (PzH 2000) and 2016 (AHS Krab), followed by the rollout of newly produced units in the following 4-5 years.
As for being more advanced, I was thinking about rate of fire, range, etc. But I don't have any firsthand experience, while you seem to have plenty. So who am I to tell you about your profession? I guess they're roughly similar, no?
As for the breakage of the autoloader, I have no way of verifying whether that was as stated by the German side due to excessive strain from too many rounds being fired per day and repeated attempts to go beyond the allowed range by using additional propelling charges - or if the autoloader is just too frail for the conditions of months-long artillery duels, I have no way of knowing. Maybe the units were just too old and worn down.
P.S.: Thank you for your service, deterring the Russians from attacking Europe & protecting us all from living under Russian tyranny. My mother's family fled from East Germany in the late 1950s when the Berlin wall had not been built yet. They didn't want to live under the Russian's thumb and I assume they had good reasons that are probably no less valid today.
Edit 1: All the bickering about which howitzer is better notwithstanding, it's remarkable how Poland has managed to build a modern defense industry in such a short time span. Now that Germany has a decent defense minister (I think) I hope he will fix the terrible mistake of his predecessors and introduce a separate Air Defense Wing in the Bundeswehr again.
A good place to start would be buying a dozen PSR-A Pilica or two from Polish PGZ. Beautiful system. Would be ideal to shoot down Iranian Shahed-136 drones in Ukraine.
Ołeksij Reznikow said that 54 pieces of AHS Krab went to Ukraine.
THERE IS MORE THEN 70 KRAB in Ukraine 54 were given at 10.oct.22 (Confirmed „Rammstein 6”)( not 18) also some unofficial information is confined extra 20 plus Ukraine -ordered 54. Krab is the most popular 155 in Ukraine
Much more Krab's went to Ukraine around 50-60. Guess why Poland is not informing?
it is not necessary to inform Ruskies about that let them have some suprises on the battlefield
18 Krabs? That's only the official number. It's closer to 90 now :D
18 is the official version, unofficially we are talking about 50+
You forgot to mention that - according to Ukrainian soldiers at least - AHS Krab can fire a few thousand rounds and still be operational while vaunted PzH 2000 can fire only a few hundred rounds before it needs to have its barrel replaced.
Sorry, that is nonsense. Ukrainians fire several hundred shots per day with every artillery system, which means the PZH2000 would need a new barrel almost every day. Do you really think that's accurate? The manufacturer's guarantee for the PZH2000 is 4,500 shots before the barrel should be replaced and some Ukrainian crews have fired 20,000 shots with one barrel. Use google "Ukrainian PzH 2000 ... Having Fired 20,000 Rounds Already."
According to the latest revealed data, Poland sent 72 AHS Krab to Ukraine so far.
Najlepsze są te, które są na froncie i biją w ruskich! 😶🌫
Well, Ukrfaine got 70 Krabs months ago, beside that 80 akacja units were delivered. Nobody talks about that, since its not broadcasted in news. Polish military experts already confirmed those numbers. 70 working Krabs are much better than 6/12 working Pz2000, simple
Correction: The K-9 is not from Samsung. Hanwha acquired the company, specifically Samsung Techwin, in 2014. Hanwha is now manufacturing the AS-21 Redback IFV, K-239 Chunmoo MLRS, AESA radar for KF-21 Boramae, etc as well as K-9 Thunder SPG 2:22
Great pronunciation! Pozdrawiam! :)
Thanks!🤝
and PZH2000 have held over 20,000 shots.
The pipes are actually the same because both come from Rheinmetall. A lot depends on the ammunition and powder used.
But Krab has a very good ability - it can work together with drones and use them to pick up and attack targets in the fire system.
A very big advantage for the PZH2000 is the additional "hedgehog" armor, which works great against bomblets and small anti-tank weapons.
Germany now has a program running to increase the range - up to 150km, there is even a PZH2000 which can shoot at 100km, with a larger chamber and then with more powder.
The value of 2000 or 3000 rounds is only valid for peacetime and is a guaranteed minimum value.
As I said, in Ukraine PZH2000 have already had over 20,000 shots and only then were the tubes replaced.
Funny information - T-72 tank has warranty only for 70 rounds, after that you have to change barrel lol
May good bless Poland for this great help, slava Ukrainie!!
On 15.02.2023 Polish government announced a subsidy to HSW of USD 400 million, for increasing its production capacity. So, I hope Russians like 155mm shells served by Krab.
2:47 That's the caption of the former chasis of the KRAB, and it's biggest weaknes - complete lack of stability. UPG (thats what it's called) was still adopted as a command and ammunition vehicle.
buddy our Polish government donated over 48 pcs and not as you say in the video 18 and not officially 60 pcs.
I couldn’t find information about 48 pcs donated by Poland. Numerous sources says about 18 pieces. But it’s good if it’s true!
This is kind of secure information, when country donates something to Ukraine it cant really say what kind of equipment and how much they donated because it could be a useful information to Russia maybe they even donated 150 of these, who knows
Donate for free Polish good one and then they buy for big money Korean shitty one , very good business bravo
Ukraina zajeżdża kraby bo musi walczyć. Ostatnio rozrywa lufy po 4 tysiącach strzałów. Krab walczy do końca bez względu na gwarancje😮.
I niech te Ukraińskie "Kraby" (wyprodukowane w Polsce) służą jak najlepiej!
Ładny filmik.
Zdrowia życzę.
Chwała Ukrainie!
Polish howitzers can fire up to 5,000 shells without repairing the barrel, other howitzers can fire up to 2,000 shells. Proven on the battlefield.
Thx
Nice work Ukraine -making a 50km shot from a 40km rated barrel! I'm assuming you poured some vodka on the shell before firing? I wish you good hunting!
😂😂😂
40km base bleed ammo and 50km + from Excalibur range depend to ammo type
Brawo Polska 👍🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱👍
Brawo PIS 👍🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱👍
Czemu bijesz brawo dla Pisu?
@@jakub8623 bo żadna inna partia nie zrobiła by tyle dla Ukrainy. Konfa jest prorosyjska, a PO proniemiecka (Niemcom przebieg wojny bardzo się nie podoba🙂) PiS zaś jest proanglosaski a do tego ma rachunki do wyrównania z Rosjanami🙂
Jakby powiedział pewien Kapitan: TĘPE CHUJE.
@@inaturalnie :)
@@albert1albert12 i przeciw Polakom….
In fact, there are over Polish 50 Krabs in Ukraine. But officially the number is 18.
chassis - South Korean K9 Thunder
turret - British BAE Systems AS-90M
long gun - 155mm/52-calibre Nexter Systems
engine - STX Engine/MTU Friedrichshafen
like most cars in the world, the most important thing is to assemble these parts so that they work well together. Besides, without the excellent Polish TOPAZ fire system, these gun-howitzers would be useless
@@andrzejabramczyk3600 correct
There's been a merger between French Nexter and German KMW. The new company is called KNDS.
Yup. HSW took the best parts they could get, add some modifications, Polish fire control system, and put it together.
There was actually a lot of controversy during the development process, but it turns out they developed a good weapon, and worth every coin spent.
You call it "very high level of engineering".
2:34 on picture is mistake ... its say AS-90 BraveHEAT
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18??... 76 and we'll be more
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Poland repeatedly failed to develop a self-propelled howitzer body for 20 years and asked Hanwha Defense, a S.Korea company, to perfectly combine the K9-based body with a British-made turret, and finally the Krab was born.However, since parts from many countries are imported and assembled, the price is high and productivity is reduced.
I'm not sure about the rest, but chasis, barrel and guiding system are all made in Poland.
Napoleon also said that he would rather have 30 Poles with him in the war than 300 other soldiers... why? Because we do not ask for freedom, we always fight for it. look : ruclips.net/video/7SpddNW7a3k/видео.html
Its a British howitzer with a German gun
What about Lancet? 😛
ukrainian military said krabs are very very good
range 40 km target +- 2 m show me better
Logistic!
tooday its best weapon this type of the world Krab made in Poland
im civilian but think soon be in Ukraine :)
Wrożki ktore podaja ile to krabow wyslano na ukraine prosze o podanie zrodla informacji chyba ze wyczytali ze szklanej kuli
Jarosław Wolski na kanale "Wolski o wojnie" podał swego czasu ,że naliczył 54 sztuki po kamerkach z autostrad, które dopiero po telefonie do niego , z ministerstwa , wyłączyli je na czas transportów.
@@dangozdzik200 chyba ze te kmerki staly na granicy bo inaczej mogly jechac na poligon. Jesli by oddali 60 plus gozdziki to artylerzysci mogli by isc na urlop bezplatny
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Good, anti-russian weapon.
kds
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PZH2000 can shot 2000 AHS KRAB 6000+ so? KRAB IS MUCH BETTER !
Krab officially 1500 shot tested on gun fire.
8000 hmm, ok xD Im, polish stawonug
The Pzh2000 has a manufacturer guarantee of 4500 shots, not 2000, and some Ukrainian crews have fired 20,000 shots before replacing the barrel (use google, you'll find sources)
"Polish howitzer Krab is BETTER than* you think!"
than, not then
Thanks, my mistake👍
NL and GER KMW and Rheinmetall wanted to create a repair centre in PL / HSW. Poland (PIS) doesn't want. Bad for Ukraine.
Now Sowakia allow the Service Center.
True. I’m more hyped about new RCH-155 Rheinmetall development for Ukraine☺️
Will probably make video about it.
@@ArmchairAnalytic the Complete European Defense Industrie was in longtime pace mod. but Together we will win.👍
Germans received a list of potential places to locate the repair center, unfortunately for them they were unsatisfactory and demanded that the repair center be located on the premises of the Polish army units responsible for the transfer of equipment to Ukraine, such a location under normal conditions was unacceptable for security reasons (presence of private person from another country on the premises of a military base), and in particular locating German civilian personnel, due to the close cooperation of German business with Russia
The Germans had unfulfilled demands. They wanted to rent a repair shop and carry out repairs using only their own staff, imported from Germany.
"Poland (PiS) doesn't want. Bad for Ukraine." - good for Poland. Germany is losing importance in Europe, and Poland is gaining. If it was done as in the case of the Poland-Korea deal, it's ok, but otherwise let Germany look for fools elsewhere. Times are changing/have changed.
Да да отличная артиллерия, особенно красиво их Ланцеты уничтожают, штук 20 уже не меньше на видео кадрах)
lets not go into competing each other but combine all those great weapons to a swift striking Ukrainian army, knocking the russian nazi's out of Ukraine in the third quarter of 2023. Slava Ukraini!