I can't imagine going through the hell of my loved being murdered that horribly,then seeing their killers idolized by certain groups.That is so terrible.
There are a lot of Manson apologists that you come across on these videos with their comments that Charlie never killed anyone. Lots of Tex and Leslie devotees as well.
Idolized by creeps who have no empathy. This must have been footage right after the murders, because I don't believe Sharon and Roman had a beware of dog sign. Horrible memories at this house. Totally see why they rebuilt it.
You totally miss the mark, THANK GOD it was torn down!! Today, ghoulish types like "Dearly Departed" Scott Michaels, would be offering paid tours, just to a make a buck off of this tragedy.
its my understanding that the original house more or less had to be torn down after trent reznor recorded the nine inch nails album "the downward spiral" there - apparently he had a bunch of walls knocked out and ad hoc sound booths built to turn it into a makeshift studio - leaving the structure unsound and non code compliant.
The house that they (Sharon/Roman) rented from Patty Duke in 1968 at the top of Summit Drive still stands...that's a nice house although the garden and interior has had a large makeover...gone are the lawns.
The barking dog at the gate is Rudy's dog "Lady", my special little friend. We also had Christopher, Gemma and Fettuccini. I might well have been inside when theis video was shot. Rudy regretted selling this house until the day he died. We discussed it countless times. Amazing the way things in life change, and how quicky people & things come and go without a trace. That's why we should treasure every moment of friendship and appreciate the temporary use of worldly possessions.
House was destroying decades ago. A different house was built close to the original location. Original house had been sublet by Terry Melcher to Roman Polanski. Manson tried to get a record deal from Melcher who turned him down. Manson had actually been in the house when Melcher lived there but he was fully aware who was living there the night of the attack. Melcher wasn't even in the country.
No one is allowed to drive up Cielo Drive to the site of the original House, they should have absolutely NEVER torn down the House !!! It was a Gorgeous Home.
Today is the beyond tragic day that they were all murdered so many years ago & so very young. 😭💔 RIP to one of the most beautiful women in the world (Sharon Tate), her unborn son & all the victims. You all are & always will be missed terribly and will forever be loved so very much!!! ❤️
I love the fence gate with barb wire at top. I love the German Shepherd. I love the footage looking down that road. I love the footage of the house. I love the TCR clock. 🏠 ⏰
have to agree with all the recent comments...the house now there is hideous, why was the old house demolished, it was beautiful. Such a shame what happened, no wonder Polanski went all weird.
The house was torn down because it wasn't feasible anymore. It's roof had been declared a fire Hazzard and it wasn't up to code structurally in regards to earthquakes in 1994. It was determined that the costs of fixing it up werent worth it.
Prior to Sharon and Roman living there, Terry Melcher and Candice Bergen lived there and they fed stray cats outside (behind the house). Sharon continued to feed them when she moved in with Roman.
The killers, namely Tex Watson, decided not to climb the gate because they thought it might be electrified. It wasn’t but they couldn’t take the risk. They climbed up the embankment that was between the entrance gate and the exit gate. They jumped down right next to the exit gate and that’s where Tex saw Steven Parent in his car trying to get out the exit gate. Steven was a sitting duck stuck waiting for the gate to open and Tex shot him 4 times in the chest at point blank range.
@@sylviacarlson3561 - This was in 1969. People weren’t all so scared of each other like now. I remember in the 1970’s when I was little my dad worked and my mom stayed home with me. We didn’t keep the doors to the house locked when we were home in the daytime. My mom’s neighbor friend just came on in the house for her morning coffee with my mom. She didn’t knock. She just announced herself as she came in. My playmates didn’t knock either. They just came on in through the unlocked door. At night or if we left the house we locked doors but that was it. Even celebrities in Hollywood felt safe. Up until August 9, 1969. After that date sales of home security, guns, and guard dogs increased significantly. Sharon and Roman didn’t own the house. They were renting. Any home security would’ve been purchased by the owner of the home. The house was a bit isolated. The public road dead ended at the gates of the house. There was no neighbor on the one side because that property was a dead end. They had entrance and exit gates. To get in you probably had to have a code or to call someone in the house to buzz you in. It was very hot that day. The house was built in the 1940’s. They probably didn’t have air conditioning because with the climate they wouldn’t have needed it very often. Hot night + no A/C = open windows. Tex got in by slashing a screen on an open window. Then he let the girls in through the front door which had been locked.
@@sylviacarlson3561I agree but I guess it was a different time back then. When people promoted peace and love. SMH. This happened three years before I was born. 😔
Guard dog, barbed wire fence extension, no trespassing sign, if only these things were already in place on Aug 8th 69 who knows this whole thing might have been prevented.. Evil is always lurking about and no one knows when it will rear it's ugly head.....
Wouldn't have stopped the Manson Family. They would have shot the dog, still climbed over the fence to the right of the entrance which had a slight hill which they went up and over the fence on.
Manson gave explicit orders not to harm/kill any dogs or cats on the properties. The killers actually fed the LaBianca's 2 dogs after all that carnage. The "family" loved animals and had tons on the ranch. Manson had a rule that the dogs ate first at dinner before anyone else could. Watch the 2nd Helter Skelter movie.
Brown Trout Actually.. there were dogs and The Electric gate was turned off this night. The dogs were with The Garreson guy in the guest house. The House was only Targeted because it was Owned by Terry Melcher, Doris Day's son..he Rejected Charlie and his non-talent musical skills..and it pissed him off!! No one on this property deserved this Evil 😈 Carnage! Hopefully..may all the victims, including Little innocent baby Sharon was carrying and being a loving mommy to already. RIP😪
ccjjpp1966 The Electric gate actually being turned on that night and the dog at least would have sent a Warning ! But the Garreson guy..most likely turned that gate off..because his Buddy, Steven Parent was leaving plus he had the dogs in that Guest house. That night. 👎
ddivincenzo1 Manson was a Deranged POS..who should have been fried like the rest of his f-up up, drugged up Murdering misfits!!😈👹😡😠😈!!! Charlie at least knew... don't mess with DOG=GOD!
Such a sad event it's so hard to belive the lives so brutally taken & those left behind to suffer heartache. I feel so close to this case, only learning about it in recent months well as far as I'm aware I never new the full story . It hypnotised me. It was so awful to think of the fear cruelty to a beautiful lady watching those she loved killed then her own fate knowing her baby would die too. How heart wrenching.
It's awful to know that there's killers out there in the world,to know that at any given time that you may end up being killed. A guy who I was with for a while always left the back door and front door unlocked during the day and night . As I can see it it's not a safe thing to do no matter what the neighborhood may look like,who either drives by or walks by . Whenever this happened I would get up and make sure that the door s were locked . I wasn't about to take chances -no matter what . He in my opinion didn't use his head in a very sensible way . If you rent or own your home you always make sure that the doors are locked at all times .
Seems like it was another Hollywood setup (suicide) murder .. See the celebs drop like flies very sad. Something doesn't jive with this one at all. .. Where the f was Polanski? Satanic ritual yep more to it I'm sure than we can imagine RIP
@tyamster Sharon had just adopted a kitten and locked the dogs up, otherwise, things may have been different, however, Tex Watson probably would have shot the dogs.
Chuck Summers The dogs were being watched by Bill Garretson which saved his life because Susan Atkins tried opening the door but heard the dogs barking and she ran back to Tex to say no one was in the guest house.
if you see the autopsy photos or the body chart for Sharon you will see three stab wounds (all fatal) in the heart area all clean it proves that Sharon had her arms tied or held (believe me the average person if they have their arms free will try to block someone stabbing them in the chest
the dog or dogs, were to be looked after by William Garettson (sic) the "houseboy" and only living person found on the property the next morning, unfortunate they weren't able to roam free that night, might have made a difference.
Susan Atkins stated that she saw a dog staring in through the windows of the house just before the murders started. So obviously one of the dogs had gotten free, even though William Garretson, who was looking after the dogs, never spoke of it. Possibly the dog got out when Steven Parent left the guesthouse.
@@ironduke2000 So how come this caretaker didn't know there was murder going on? The dogs would have been going crazy. He knew. It was a set up. The killers knew the dogs were kept hidden away, and Sharon realised they were set up. She knew and was possibly waiting for the caretaker to let the dogs loose. But he never did. The killers left him live as they were instructed to do so.
@@Adriana-vp1rmHe stated he was wearing headphones and didn’t see or hear anything. If you look at pictures of him he’s definitely scared and in shock. Even if he did see or hear some thing what could he do? Tex Watson cut the phone lines and the gate was locked. He would have been another victim.
@@gaynorpatterson2915 He had few German shepherd dogs with him in house. He could have released them quietly and run behind into bush immediately. He'd be in no time at someone else's house. The murderers would be busy with the dogs. He was involved. No way he didn't know. The dogs would have gone crazy and he'd have to take his headgear off.
I still don’t understand how they did not have more security there. I know it was a different time, but good God, Roman Polanski was a major director and Sharon Tate was an actress. No guards, no security system? It just seems so weird to me.
She was a free spirit and didn't want all that. She chose the house because it was romantic and cozy. She was raised by a normal down to earth mother and was an all American woman.
Linda kasabian became the star witness for the prosecution and the respect from Vincent Bugliosi without asking for immunity. She was disgusted by what they did. They never told her what was planned but was ordered to go because she had a valid drivers license. She cried when she returned to the property with the prosecutors saying “why wasnt this dog her the night of the murder. Why wasnt the dog here. It might have stopped it.” She testified for 7 days straight and was a major nail in the coffin. She still has tremendous guilt saying” i have the guilt that none of the ever had.” She lives a private life thinking what a waste it was.
im happy to hear someone took the dogs. sharon also feed stray cats there and was helping a sick kitten the night of the murders. linda should have done the right thing and took off in the car and went to the neighbors to get help but she said she feared for her little daughter life that was still at the ranch or the people she would have asked help for. yes she will regret this for the rest of her life!
@Gersroolz - my cousin lived in a flat in Cardiff not knowing a young girl lay buried in the backgarden wrapped in carpet for 5 years (the murder was later solved and the place still stands) I agree with you, I mean dont get me wrong the murder was not in the same league in terms of gruesomeness as the massacre in Dunblane BUT a murder has occoured all the same......
@terryfez I doubt it. This appears to be well after August 9, 1969. It seems I read a story about Linda Kasabian being taken back to the scene with detectives, there were 2 guard dogs present and Kasabian said "Why couldn't they have been here"? The detective asked her "When"?, Kasabian said "That night". I'm guessing that was a guard dog placed on the property after the attack. That's just a guess though, I've never seen a pic of Christopher.
@@JB-pk4ck I doubt it, I've been following that bunch for at least 11 years now, (Linda Kasabian just died a few months ago, I think February). The murders took place just after midnight Aug.9, 1969. At around the 2:18 mark of the vid, they show the button to open the gate. That's the one that apparently had blood on it from when Watson pushed it when the killers exited the property. Security at the house was apparently "upgraded" just after the murders. I would guess this film was made within a week of the murders. I have no "absolute proof" of that. However, there were many similar NBC films made at that time, including the day of the murders. This one was apparently made the morning of the murders, some of the victims cars are still in the driveway--ruclips.net/video/_Y_ziQKZVp4/видео.html
"humiliation, mental and emotional distress." He then tacked on another 200,000 for the defendants "malicious and willful conduct." I found this information in Restless Souls by Alisa Statman and Brie Tate. Pg 56. Also after a google search found that this info can be found in the book The Family by Ed Sanders. Also, I found them discussing it in the Crime Shots forums. I'm not sure what there references are. I know the Restless Souls book has come under scrutiny by some, but I think (cont'd)
I have been there. Sharon and her Son are in Heaven. Susan Atkins killed Sharon. She is in Hell. I will be back to pray for her. To leave flowers and an angel on the gate. And to banish evil from that location from EVER coming back. And I will do it in the Holy Spirit. I have plans for Sharon in love and in honor of her in Heaven and her Son and family. Amen. Praise Jesus.
First, Susan held Sharon's arms back while Tex plunged the knife into her chest. Since you injected religiosity into this, then Susan is forgiven because she is a born again, Christian.
Why are you people dissing Garretson? He said he was sitting in the dark listening to music with headphones & smoking pot. He did hear Abigail screaming when she ran nearer the guesthouse & peeked out to see Pat killing her. He was terrified & tried to call police but the line was cut. Then someone came up to his door & tried to open it. It was locked, so they left, thinking no one was there. He stayed there in shock & fear till the police showed up.
Hi there. Garretson has, of course, been all over the place with his story over the years. The poor guy has had a lot of difficulty since that night (47 years ago today, actually). His original testimony, with a lie detector test that he passed, said that he heard nothing at all. Then in the 90s, he stated that he saw Gabby being killed. He has flip-flopped on that a few different times. The best evidence seems to support that he saw nothing. I try to get down there as close as I can to each anniversary of the killings, to pay my respects to the murdered. This year, it will be this Saturday or Sunday.
By down there, do you mean to the homes? The Tate house was kind of a laid-back, idyllic dream home, at least to my sensibilities. Until, of course, Manson destroyed it. What's on the land now is a horribly gaudy, modern atrocity. I've only seen pictures, but enough to abhore it.
Yeah, I've seen it several times, it's truly awful. Really ruins the property. I've only been to the LaBianca home a couple of times, including yesterday. As usual (when I got to the sites), I also dropped by the criminal courts building, and the Gary Hinman house, and I walk around Spahn a bit. I don't do that much in the summer from fear of rattlesnakes! Anyway, I do this 2-3 times a year, while I'm down there for other stuff. I live about 3 hours away.
Wait, was there a house behind them?? How in the hell would they not call the police hearing the screams??? Unless the residents were not home that night/morning.
There was a guest house just past the pool. Tex cut the phone wires. Either the same wire went to the main house and the guest house or there were 2 wires and Tex cut both. At any rate neither the main house nor the guest house had working phones. The caretaker William Garretson was 19 and was living in the guest house to take care of the dogs while Rudy Altobelli was in Europe. He claims that he was up all or most of the night writing letters and listening to music. I think he may have been wearing headphones. One story he tells he sees the front doorknob turn but no one came in. In another he admits that he heard screaming and took a quick peek out the window and he saw people on the front lawn but he thought Sharon was having a loud party and that the screaming near the pool was because they were chasing each other trying to throw each other in the pool. Patricia was stabbing Abigail on the front lawn but she started to get tired and her knife was hitting bone which made Patricia’s hand hurt. So she asked Tex to finish up for her. Tex did and he told Patricia to check the guest house and kill anyone who was there. Patricia didn’t want to do any more so she stood in the shadows at the side of the guest house for a little while and returned to Tex saying she had checked and no one was there. I think she knew that someone was there but she didn’t want to have to stab someone else.
They got over via the embankment to left, worried the fence was electrified. But yes, it's a shame it wasn't a sturdier perimeter, with big snarly dogs - tho' the dog's would've probably just got killed too
Over 50 years and that house is still there. Now a days if there is a murder like this they take the house down. I wish they would with the tate house it's very uncomfortable
obviously after the murders, but with the shot from distance onto 10050 Cielo -where were the mature trees in front of the house you can see the pond up the far end but no trees??
DM McHugh because it was an extremely hot summer evening the windows were left open with screens. Remember this was 1969 and safety was an afterthought. Tex and the girls took a knife and sliced the screen and climbed into the house.
@@kayleecoin176 Correction: Tex cut the screen and crawled through the window, then let the girls (2) into the front door which was unlocked. They all 3 walked into the living area (next to front door) to find a sleeping Voycheck on the couch. You know the rest...
i couldnt have said it better, even though something horrific happened there, that house was beautiful,if i had money i would build me one like it, not out of anything morbid but just because i really like that arquitecture,also someone made a comment about the dogs being there, i will go to my grave thinking that there is something fishy about garretson's story , im not saying he did it but that he had to have heard something, actually i think he did but just didnt wanna investigate.
i was wondering sharon tate had some dogs that william was taking care of where they barking that night? surely people must have heard the screams and chaos going on that night according to some people they did hear some screams but ignored it thinking it was coyotes out there
I read that the dogs were barking that night..but don't know if they started barking when one of the killers grabbed the doorknob..or when they heard the screaming and shots or both...but they were barking that night...so said Garretson
Peter ATWA. Let's hope that does NOT happen again on the same property. I don't like that the original house was torn down & replaced with that gigantic mansion. But I would NEVER wish the same brutal slaughter on whoever lives there now.
He sued the Tate's for damages that occurred during the murders (carpets furniture, draperies, landscaping), depreciation of the home because of trespassory conduct of property by Frykowsi and Folger, and other depreciation of the home because of "direct and proximate conduct of the defendants" (basically blaming the victims for being murdered because of their "actions"), and after Roman allegedly accepted 50,000 for a magazine spread-Altobelli sued for an additional $300,000 for (con't..)
I agree that the original house should not have been torn down to put up this gigantic mansion that sticks out like a sore thumb. But I certainly do NOT wish the same horrific murders on the people who now live there. Why would you want that to happen?
in regard to what you said about Linda -all those involved state that she did not know they were going to murder the first night i am sure she went into shock but remember they had her daughter back at spahn and she did refuse to kill (to charlies face the next night) please do not call her a coward she was the main witness and had multiple death threats (and still does) she help put these animals away
It looks like a giant ad. for money without style. The '40s house fitted; a woodland house with landscaped gardens, trees, a lot more attractive. By all accounts it was a lovely, peaceful home, aside from 1 night. At least the new one has better security, if only 10050 had.
It's all about money. Was a beautiful place that should have been restored and used as a museum that generated funds for the victims and future victims of violence.
The twin house (not identical, but similar) 10048 Cielo was also demolished and strangely enough replaced with a much smaller, similar version of the eyesore that replaced the original home at 10050.
Wasn’t born until 1970, however, my mother remembers every detail. How could any human murder another human, especially a pregnant woman, brutally without a second thought, and just for fun? Will never understand this shocking crime.
@@Adriana-vp1rm A true Christian doesn’t judge. Your judgemental attitude is what makes ministering and witnessing to non-believers extremely difficult.
@@denisek292 This is laughable. So sad and laughable. Why am I hearing this clow Christianity since so many years everywhere. Don't judge! Don't judge.... Listen woman. God said to judge. The RIGHTEOUS judge all things so stop being stupid. I'm so fed up with this joke Christianity is unbelievable. I have funny Christians daily telling me Don't juuuudge like clowns. Oh, bytheway, Jesus called the Gentiles dogs. Hope u didn't fall of your chair deary.
Was this right after the tragedy? Who's Shepherd is that? Too bad he wasn't there when those bad people killed all of those innocent people. His barking could of alarmed Sharon to know someone was there
I believe that is Rudy Altobelli's dog (Sharon's and Gibby's pets had been removed after the discovery). He had a couple, including a weimaraner named Christopher. His dogs were with Garretson, the caretaker.
I heard that Jay Leno and his wife where looking to buy a house at one time, Their agent took them up to the orginal house 10050 Cielo Dr. They both fell in love with the house and grounds. They were considering buying it, until it was revealed that it was the house that SharonTate and the others were murdered in.They immediately changed their minds at that point. He later refered to it as the Manson House. It was a beautiful house but with a ugly history. It's a shame they tore it down.
where was the real secuity that just dont make no sense why they didnt have dogs and human to potect that place barb wire and all oh that right it was a free time so sad that could have save them
Million Dollar Question, Where Were The Dogs That Night, Also Why Didn't Anyone InThe Area Call The Police? A Counselor At An All Girls School Heard Voytek Frykowski Cry Out "Oh God No Please Don't"🤔🤔
I watched an interview with Sharon's mom I don't remember which one tho she said they found the dogs hidding don't remember under the bed or closet sorry it been along time and one dog was Sharon's and one was Abigail s
@@alicemilling3706 This dog in the video is a watch dog and was not there at the time of the murders. Any other dogs on the residence at the time of the murders were friendly pet dogs or puppies. William Garretson at the guest house was watching the owner (Rudi Altobelli) of the property's dogs as he was away in Europe. Ironically, this is sort of chilling but in a story by Susan Atkins, she stated that at one point while they were in the house and starting to tie up victims with ropes around their necks, she glanced over towards a window by the front porch and saw a dog outside peering in through the window watching what was going on. The dog spooked when it saw her looking back at it and simply vanished from the window. It was one of the Altobelli dogs. Also, the yelling by Frykowski was heard by the counselor who was down in the valley about 5 or 6 blocks away. Because it was down a steep hill and about 1/2 mile away, the counselor could not pinpoint where the screaming was coming from exactly. People who lived in this area said that loud noises (parties) would be heard constantly because a lot of celebrities and rich people would always be having big parties at night and the shape of the valley with the hills caused sounds and the acoustics to bounce all over the place confusing people from where sounds came from. The worst is that a neighbor next door was having their own party which ended at 12 midnight. The couple went to bed quickly after everyone left. The wife heard the Steve Parent gun shots sometime before 12:30 am and mentioned it to her husband. But since the long driveway (where Parent was shot) at the Tate house was about 100 yards away from the neighbor's house, this neighbor who was used to loud parties at the Tate house, ignored it and went to bed. The Tate house was another 50 yards away from the long driveway and thus about 150 yards away from this same neighbor. The neighbor never heard any other gunshots or screaming from the murdered victims who were inside the house nor on the front lawn when the Manson family members arrived.
Star Blazers It Is Very interesting all this that you count, in an article I had seemed to read this that you narrate, to lick is very sad that no one noticed or listen to something to suspect and to call the police, was something tragic happened, in any case being as You count and being neighbors close and accustomed to hear parties is logical to ignore it, it's a shame what happened, I wish I had been Bruce Lee there that night (which they say was invited) perhaps it would have been different all, all my love for Sharon and his precious Baby 👶 for your family and friends 💖
Altobelli later sued the Sharon Polanski estate for the damage done to his house during the murders and after. Her estate was left to her parents. Great guy.
Christine Flores i think it was just for the carpet which both Roman and Col. Tate got on their knees and scrubbed by hand to get the blood stains out, can you imagine a father trying to clean the blood of his murdered daughters body off the carpet?
Jackie Morris yeah, although looking at the crime scene pics that carpet would need to be replaced at least in the area Sharon was lying, i think Rudi was angry with Roman for letting Voytek and Abigail move in temporarily because it was against the rental agreement and also because at the time following the murders there was alot of speculation about Voytek and Jays drug use and contacts
Sharon's Father, Paul, had to sadly cleaned up his daughter's blood from the interior of that house. The walls, the carpets, everything while planning her funeral. I sincerely hope the soulless bastard, Rudi, is burning in hell.
If this is really true, it's hard to accept that a family that was subject to such a horrible crime would get sued. And to be frank, I can't believe that without a reliable source. Could you please share where your info is from...? It could just be badmouthing someone too.
it's well documented, it's part of the Sharon Tate estate record, available from "Celebrity Collectibles" a website that has hundreds of celebrity wills, autopsy reports, etc., get your head out of your ass.
Yes the owner Rudy Altobelli did sue Sharon’s family for damages . He also was suing because it was leased as a single family dwelling . The Polanskis broke a rule of the lease when Abigail Folger and Voytek Frykowski started residing there. There was a settlement for a few thousand for damages. Regardless of the situation it was in the most extremest of bad taste showing no compassion whatsoever for the family after such a tragic loss. Rest in Heaven Steven Parent~ Abigail Folger~ Voytek Frykowski ~Jay Sebring ~Sharon and baby Paul❤️
@@danielkelly6790 Well, buisness is buisness. The owner knew Polanski was rich, besides by offering his first- born he would be in the gold club for life. If he did. I think he did.
Being ricih doesn't mean you have taste or style. What passes for talent these days would be laughable 50 years ago. Come to think of it....it's laughable now.
Today's 'schelebrities', for the most part, are boorishly uninteresting, self-absorbed people with no class or brains (but with lots of money, of course). If there was ever a time when it was embarrassing to actually be one, it's definitely now. (yawn.....)
As long as I live there and the doors were locked I felt safe . But when he kept up the nonsense of leaving the doors unlocked I just knew that it was time to move from there and I am very happy that I did .
@Melanie Jarrett I am sure really truly honestly grateful that I didn't,don't live there . He was a guy 👦 who was a sicko . It's a shame that the people were killed. I was 16 years old at the time when he had his followers kill the people. I remember when it happened like it was yesterday .It has been over 51 years ago when it happened. His followers were as well sickos .
@tyamster - so I hear....I think all murderers tyamster should rot in hell personally.........some have committed attrocities that make the Manson murders seem quite tame believe it or not !
@Bhav341 The residence was actually damaged to the point that it would have cost more to repair than it was worth (the house, not the property itself) after the 1994 Earthquake right after Trent Reznor moved out). Peace
@Jimo means from beginning like when Polanski first moved he should've put security dogs to protect the property cause the gate wasn't a good deterant to would be thieves or killers.
@alexthebullo well she was kind of both really cos no woman should grow a mustache......it was also in reply to dannatiporci55 who I have a feeling is a Manson 'supporter'
@imperatorcaesar100 It was somebody elses house, Rudy Autobelli's. He never recouped his losses on the property, I know it's a cynical way to look at it, but the house ruined his life. He even had to get Roman to pay to have the house redecorated and industrially cleaned. He had really bad luck trying to get rid of the house for the next 20 years, it was hardly lived in. I think knocking it down was the right idea as it would only attract tours of fans.
what talent thing? People said that Sharon was very talented, but in all honesty, I failed to see that. Her movies were okay and Valley of the Dolls was a bomb, but maybe in time...she wanted to do comedy, but never saw herself as a really serious actress.
Okay, in a way I can understand what you're trying to say. But why do you call him the simpleton Garretson? Stop & think about how he must have felt after those murders occured so close to where he was. If he tells a couple of strange stories then; oh well. If it were me in that guesthouse when the slaughtering took place; I'm not quite sure what it would have done to me. Just saying.
Rip Sharon, Baby Paul , Jay, Abigail, Voytek, Stephen , Leno and Rosemary .. always remembered 💜
It's Steven
@Twentieth Century Fox, Is it Voytek or Wojciech? 🤔 I've always wondered! 🙂
@@michelleharak7849 one is the translation of the other so yeah its both
I can't imagine going through the hell of my loved being murdered that horribly,then seeing their killers idolized by certain groups.That is so terrible.
Joseph Stegall I totally agree!
@@doloresromo7029 so do I bloody awful
There are a lot of Manson apologists that you come across on these videos with their comments that Charlie never killed anyone. Lots of Tex and Leslie devotees as well.
Vile tragic
Idolized by creeps who have no empathy. This must have been footage right after the murders, because I don't believe Sharon and Roman had a beware of dog sign. Horrible memories at this house. Totally see why they rebuilt it.
50 years later this still can make a grown man hesitant in dark and silent areas
Not me. I have night vision 😉
This is vintage! Such a shame they demolished it. Thanks for posting this🙂
absolute madness to knock the original down, it was still be rented in the early 90's. The house and the grounds were stunning!
You totally miss the mark, THANK GOD it was torn down!! Today, ghoulish types like "Dearly Departed" Scott Michaels, would be offering paid tours, just to a make a buck off of this tragedy.
@@gregrak9389 Well that is true...but it would have only taken a decent owner to put a stop to that.
its my understanding that the original house more or less had to be torn down after trent reznor recorded the nine inch nails album "the downward spiral" there - apparently he had a bunch of walls knocked out and ad hoc sound booths built to turn it into a makeshift studio - leaving the structure unsound and non code compliant.
The house was unsafe. If murders took place in it. Clearly it needs upgrades. Such as steel doors, an alarm system, a couple of German Shepherds.❤
The house that they (Sharon/Roman) rented from Patty Duke in 1968 at the top of Summit Drive still stands...that's a nice house although the garden and interior has had a large makeover...gone are the lawns.
The barking dog at the gate is Rudy's dog "Lady", my special little friend. We also had Christopher, Gemma and Fettuccini. I might well have been inside when theis video was shot. Rudy regretted selling this house until the day he died. We discussed it countless times. Amazing the way things in life change, and how quicky people & things come and go without a trace. That's why we should treasure every moment of friendship and appreciate the temporary use of worldly possessions.
Lone Star Were you living there? Sorry if I missed something
Lone Star that's exactly what material items are:"temporary use of worldly processions". Beautifully said! We dont take anything with us!
Woody, did you live there when Bob Esty did? Bob was a very dear friend of my friend Irene Soderberg.
Did you know Sharon???
@@marygebert8057 No. I methim tho
Fascinating. I love vintage film footage and photos.
anilomd I do to....
i want to buy that property, demolish that house, and reconstruct the old one.
sharon's house was probably the most beautiful house i've ever seen.
Cheyenne x I’m with you on that.
House was destroying decades ago. A different house was built close to the original location. Original house had been sublet by Terry Melcher to Roman Polanski. Manson tried to get a record deal from Melcher who turned him down. Manson had actually been in the house when Melcher lived there but he was fully aware who was living there the night of the attack. Melcher wasn't even in the country.
Count me in, please!
Celia Gorleski I think you misread the original post.
@@PeetaIsMyHomeboy Maybe you misunderstood my post or tell me what I wrote that was wrong.
No one is allowed to drive up Cielo Drive to the site of the original House, they should have absolutely NEVER torn down the House !!! It was a Gorgeous Home.
A shame it was torn down;much better than the monstrosity that's there now.
Today is the beyond tragic day that they were all murdered so many years ago & so very young. 😭💔 RIP to one of the most beautiful women in the world (Sharon Tate), her unborn son & all the victims. You all are & always will be missed terribly and will forever be loved so very much!!! ❤️
I love the fence gate with barb wire at top. I love the German Shepherd. I love the footage looking down that road. I love the footage of the house. I love the TCR clock. 🏠 ⏰
have to agree with all the recent comments...the house now there is hideous, why was the old house demolished, it was beautiful. Such a shame what happened, no wonder Polanski went all weird.
Tim H he was weird before
The house was torn down because it wasn't feasible anymore. It's roof had been declared a fire Hazzard and it wasn't up to code structurally in regards to earthquakes in 1994. It was determined that the costs of fixing it up werent worth it.
I read the architect who designed this home also designed an albeit smaller, but similar home at 10046 Cielo Drive.
sharon found a stray cat the night before and had the dogs stay somewhere else as so the cat wouldnt be scared of the dogs.:(
omg, really?
Prior to Sharon and Roman living there, Terry Melcher and Candice Bergen lived there and they fed stray cats outside (behind the house). Sharon continued to feed them when she moved in with Roman.
That decision cost her her life. So tragic....almost as if it were fated to happen.
@mansfield67 Too bad the barbed wire wasn't there on August 8, 1969, so the murderous ghouls could have gotten their skin ripped up....
It *was* there. The killers bypassed that by climbing the embankment to the right of the gate.
The killers, namely Tex Watson,
decided not to climb the gate because they thought it might be electrified. It wasn’t but they couldn’t take the risk. They climbed up the embankment that was between the entrance gate and the exit gate. They jumped down right next to the exit gate and that’s where Tex saw Steven Parent in his car trying to get out the exit gate. Steven was a sitting duck stuck waiting for the gate to open and Tex shot him 4 times in the chest at point blank range.
why didn't they have a more of a security system? For famous people, that seems strange.
@@sylviacarlson3561 - This was in 1969. People weren’t all so scared of each other like now.
I remember in the 1970’s when I was little my dad worked and my mom stayed home with me. We didn’t keep the doors to the house locked when we were home in the daytime. My mom’s neighbor friend just came on in the house for her morning coffee with my mom. She didn’t knock. She just announced herself as she came in. My playmates didn’t knock either. They just came on in through the unlocked door. At night or if we left the house we locked doors but that was it.
Even celebrities in Hollywood felt safe. Up until August 9, 1969. After that date sales of home security, guns, and guard dogs increased significantly.
Sharon and Roman didn’t own the house. They were renting. Any home security would’ve been purchased by the owner of the home.
The house was a bit isolated. The public road dead ended at the gates of the house. There was no neighbor on the one side because that property was a dead end.
They had entrance and exit gates. To get in you probably had to have a code or to call someone in the house to buzz you in.
It was very hot that day. The house was built in the 1940’s. They probably didn’t have air conditioning because with the climate they wouldn’t have needed it very often. Hot night + no A/C = open windows. Tex got in by slashing a screen on an open window. Then he let the girls in through the front door which had been locked.
@@sylviacarlson3561I agree but I guess it was a different time back then. When people promoted peace and love. SMH. This happened three years before I was born. 😔
Great footage ,thx for posting.
Their were two houses built, one at the foot of the hill. Lots of additions were made to Sharon's
No additions period until it was torn down in 94.. original house was built in 1941 for actress Michelle Morgan .
Guard dog, barbed wire fence extension, no trespassing sign, if only these things were already in place on Aug 8th 69 who knows this whole thing might have been prevented.. Evil is always lurking about and no one knows when it will rear it's ugly head.....
Wouldn't have stopped the Manson Family. They would have shot the dog, still climbed over the fence to the right of the entrance which had a slight hill which they went up and over the fence on.
Manson gave explicit orders not to harm/kill any dogs or cats on the properties. The killers actually fed the LaBianca's 2 dogs after all that carnage. The "family" loved animals and had tons on the ranch. Manson had a rule that the dogs ate first at dinner before anyone else could. Watch the 2nd Helter Skelter movie.
Brown Trout Actually.. there were dogs and The Electric gate was turned off this night. The dogs were with The Garreson guy in the guest house. The House was only Targeted because it was Owned by Terry Melcher, Doris Day's son..he Rejected Charlie and his non-talent musical skills..and it pissed him off!! No one on this property deserved this Evil 😈 Carnage! Hopefully..may all the victims, including Little innocent baby Sharon was carrying and being a loving mommy to already. RIP😪
ccjjpp1966 The Electric gate actually being turned on that night and the dog at least would have sent a Warning ! But the Garreson guy..most likely turned that gate off..because his Buddy, Steven Parent was leaving plus he had the dogs in that Guest house. That night. 👎
ddivincenzo1 Manson was a Deranged POS..who should have been fried like the rest of his f-up up, drugged up Murdering misfits!!😈👹😡😠😈!!! Charlie at least knew... don't mess with DOG=GOD!
Such a sad event it's so hard to belive the lives so brutally taken & those left behind to suffer heartache. I feel so close to this case, only learning about it in recent months well as far as I'm aware I never new the full story . It hypnotised me. It was so awful to think of the fear cruelty to a beautiful lady watching those she loved killed then her own fate knowing her baby would die too. How heart wrenching.
It's awful to know that there's killers out there in the world,to know that at any given time that you may end up being killed. A guy who I was with for a while always left the back door and front door unlocked during the day and night . As I can see it it's not a safe thing to do no matter what the neighborhood may look like,who either drives by or walks by . Whenever this happened I would get up and make sure that the door s were locked . I wasn't about to take chances -no matter what . He in my opinion didn't use his head in a very sensible way . If you rent or own your home you always make sure that the doors are locked at all times .
Own a lion if possible.
And bury landmines outside
Very strange this whole story
berryfail totally agree
Seems like it was another Hollywood setup (suicide) murder .. See the celebs drop like flies very sad. Something doesn't jive with this one at all. .. Where the f was Polanski? Satanic ritual yep more to it I'm sure than we can imagine RIP
@@CS-sf1rz Wow. You know a whole lot about nothing, don't you? Half-wit.
@tyamster Sharon had just adopted a kitten and locked the dogs up, otherwise, things may have been different, however, Tex Watson probably would have shot the dogs.
Chuck Summers The dogs were being watched by Bill Garretson which saved his life because Susan Atkins tried opening the door but heard the dogs barking and she ran back to Tex to say no one was in the guest house.
@@johnnysunrocket8618 It was Patricia Krenwinkle that was sent by Tex to try the door.
@@valjackson9050that is correct.
Very spooky
R.i.p to sharon, baby paul an everyone who loss there lifes that horrible night. 😪😪😪😪😪😪😪💔💔💔💔💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
if you see the autopsy photos or the body chart for Sharon you will see three stab wounds (all fatal) in the heart area all clean it proves that Sharon had her arms tied or held (believe me the average person if they have their arms free will try to block someone stabbing them in the chest
:( :( :(
Actually the "house of the death" was destroied...
the dog or dogs, were to be looked after by William Garettson (sic) the "houseboy" and only living person found on the property the next morning, unfortunate they weren't able to roam free that night, might have made a difference.
You know that could've been a huge huge difference... all the difference in the world, really...
Good point
Susan Atkins stated that she saw a dog staring in through the windows of the house just before the murders started. So obviously one of the dogs had gotten free, even though William Garretson, who was looking after the dogs, never spoke of it. Possibly the dog got out when Steven Parent left the guesthouse.
@@ironduke2000 So how come this caretaker didn't know there was murder going on?
The dogs would have been going crazy. He knew. It was a set up. The killers knew the dogs were kept hidden away, and Sharon realised they were set up. She knew and was possibly waiting for the caretaker to let the dogs loose. But he never did.
The killers left him live as they were instructed to do so.
@@Adriana-vp1rmHe stated he was wearing headphones and didn’t see or hear anything. If you look at pictures of him he’s definitely scared and in shock. Even if he did see or hear some thing what could he do? Tex Watson cut the phone lines and the gate was locked. He would have been another victim.
@@gaynorpatterson2915 He had few German shepherd dogs with him in house.
He could have released them quietly and run behind into bush immediately. He'd be in no time at someone else's house. The murderers would be busy with the dogs.
He was involved.
No way he didn't know. The dogs would have gone crazy and he'd have to take his headgear off.
Too bad Sharon and Roman didn't have a guard dog with a Beware Of Dog sign. The murders may never have happened.
Robert Hendricksons film, (Manson), claimed Sharon did have dogs but had penned them up that night because she took in a stray cat.🤔
They would have shot the poor dog if they had one.
@SaraM-wb4lk knowing Tex Watson was like yeah I could see that sick SOB shooting the dog!!!
I still don’t understand how they did not have more security there. I know it was a different time, but good God, Roman Polanski was a major director and Sharon Tate was an actress. No guards, no security system? It just seems so weird to me.
She was a free spirit and didn't want all that. She chose the house because it was romantic and cozy. She was raised by a normal down to earth mother and was an all American woman.
@@raquellambropoulos279 What does that have to do with having a security system?
Anne Buckner
Nice one that Literally nearly made me laugh out loud .🙂✌️
Concordo plenamente
creepy
Do they show the twin house in this video
A few of these shots are actually the sister house directly below the Tate house.
That fence was not very strong - the wooden section looks as if it was falling apart. Not tight security!
So sad...
Linda kasabian became the star witness for the prosecution and the respect from Vincent Bugliosi without asking for immunity. She was disgusted by what they did. They never told her what was planned but was ordered to go because she had a valid drivers license. She cried when she returned to the property with the prosecutors saying “why wasnt this dog her the night of the murder. Why wasnt the dog here. It might have stopped it.” She testified for 7 days straight and was a major nail in the coffin. She still has tremendous guilt saying” i have the guilt that none of the ever had.” She lives a private life thinking what a waste it was.
im happy to hear someone took the dogs. sharon also feed stray cats there and was helping a sick kitten the night of the murders. linda should have done the right thing and took off in the car and went to the neighbors to get help but she said she feared for her little daughter life that was still at the ranch or the people she would have asked help for. yes she will regret this for the rest of her life!
Linda has a lot more involvement than she admitted.
@Gersroolz - my cousin lived in a flat in Cardiff not knowing a young girl lay buried in the backgarden wrapped in carpet for 5 years (the murder was later solved and the place still stands) I agree with you, I mean dont get me wrong the murder was not in the same league in terms of gruesomeness as the massacre in Dunblane BUT a murder has occoured all the same......
from 3:23 to 5:00 is actually the "twin" house...it was directly in front of Sharons house but down below in the canyon....
And the occupants were home that night
Last images show LaBianca house which is not on Cielo Drive
@terryfez I doubt it. This appears to be well after August 9, 1969. It seems I read a story about Linda Kasabian being taken back to the scene with detectives, there were 2 guard dogs present and Kasabian said "Why couldn't they have been here"? The detective asked her "When"?, Kasabian said "That night". I'm guessing that was a guard dog placed on the property after the attack. That's just a guess though, I've never seen a pic of Christopher.
This is probably some time after october 1969 into 1970
@@JB-pk4ck I doubt it, I've been following that bunch for at least 11 years now, (Linda Kasabian just died a few months ago, I think February). The murders took place just after midnight Aug.9, 1969. At around the 2:18 mark of the vid, they show the button to open the gate. That's the one that apparently had blood on it from when Watson pushed it when the killers exited the property.
Security at the house was apparently "upgraded" just after the murders. I would guess this film was made within a week of the murders. I have no "absolute proof" of that. However, there were many similar NBC films made at that time, including the day of the murders. This one was apparently made the morning of the murders, some of the victims cars are still in the driveway--ruclips.net/video/_Y_ziQKZVp4/видео.html
"humiliation, mental and emotional distress." He then tacked on another 200,000 for the defendants "malicious and willful conduct." I found this information in Restless Souls by Alisa Statman and Brie Tate. Pg 56. Also after a google search found that this info can be found in the book The Family by Ed Sanders. Also, I found them discussing it in the Crime Shots forums. I'm not sure what there references are. I know the Restless Souls book has come under scrutiny by some, but I think (cont'd)
it can probably be found in public documents as well.
I have been there. Sharon and her Son are in Heaven. Susan Atkins killed Sharon. She is in Hell. I will be back to pray for her. To leave flowers and an angel on the gate. And to banish evil from that location from EVER coming back. And I will do it in the Holy Spirit. I have plans for Sharon in love and in honor of her in Heaven and her Son and family. Amen. Praise Jesus.
First, Susan held Sharon's arms back while Tex plunged the knife into her chest. Since you injected religiosity into this, then Susan is forgiven because she is a born again, Christian.
Why are you people dissing Garretson? He said he was sitting in the dark listening to music with headphones & smoking pot. He did hear Abigail screaming when she ran nearer the guesthouse & peeked out to see Pat killing her. He was terrified & tried to call police but the line was cut. Then someone came up to his door & tried to open it. It was locked, so they left, thinking no one was there. He stayed there in shock & fear till the police showed up.
Actually, that's not at all what he said happened.
That's the story I recall from literally decades of reading about the case. What do you remember?
Hi there. Garretson has, of course, been all over the place with his story over the years. The poor guy has had a lot of difficulty since that night (47 years ago today, actually). His original testimony, with a lie detector test that he passed, said that he heard nothing at all. Then in the 90s, he stated that he saw Gabby being killed. He has flip-flopped on that a few different times. The best evidence seems to support that he saw nothing.
I try to get down there as close as I can to each anniversary of the killings, to pay my respects to the murdered. This year, it will be this Saturday or Sunday.
By down there, do you mean to the homes? The Tate house was kind of a laid-back, idyllic dream home, at least to my sensibilities. Until, of course, Manson destroyed it. What's on the land now is a horribly gaudy, modern atrocity. I've only seen pictures, but enough to abhore it.
Yeah, I've seen it several times, it's truly awful. Really ruins the property. I've only been to the LaBianca home a couple of times, including yesterday. As usual (when I got to the sites), I also dropped by the criminal courts building, and the Gary Hinman house, and I walk around Spahn a bit. I don't do that much in the summer from fear of rattlesnakes! Anyway, I do this 2-3 times a year, while I'm down there for other stuff. I live about 3 hours away.
Wait, was there a house behind them?? How in the hell would they not call the police hearing the screams??? Unless the residents were not home that night/morning.
There was a guest house just past the pool. Tex cut the phone wires. Either the same wire went to the main house and the guest house or there were 2 wires and Tex cut both.
At any rate neither the main house nor the guest house had working phones.
The caretaker William Garretson was 19 and was living in the guest house to take care of the dogs while Rudy Altobelli was in Europe. He claims that he was up all or most of the night writing letters and listening to music. I think he may have been wearing headphones. One story he tells he sees the front doorknob turn but no one came in. In another he admits that he heard screaming and took a quick peek out the window and he saw people on the front lawn but he thought Sharon was having a loud party and that the screaming near the pool was because they were chasing each other trying to throw each other in the pool.
Patricia was stabbing Abigail on the front lawn but she started to get tired and her knife was hitting bone which made Patricia’s hand hurt. So she asked Tex to finish up for her. Tex did and he told Patricia to check the guest house and kill anyone who was there. Patricia didn’t want to do any more so she stood in the shadows at the side of the guest house for a little while and returned to Tex saying she had checked and no one was there. I think she knew that someone was there but she didn’t want to have to stab someone else.
They got over via the embankment to left, worried the fence was electrified. But yes, it's a shame it wasn't a sturdier perimeter, with big snarly dogs - tho' the dog's would've probably just got killed too
not true, tex couldnt open gate from outside because it sounded a buzzer inside the house when you pressed button to open the gate from the outside
Over 50 years and that house is still there. Now a days if there is a murder like this they take the house down. I wish they would with the tate house it's very uncomfortable
The house was demolished in 1993.
You couldn’t be more wrong lmao
Sharon Tate's house must be haunted with the innocent spirits that died on that night August 1969. R.I.P. Ms. Sharon Tate. You were beautiful.
The house she lived in was demolished in 1994 by the new owner of the property who put a mansion on the property.
Silly
I hear the property is haunted
@Robert Lopez lol
@Robert Lopez Are you an adult that believes in ghosts? If so, that's the second tragedy of this story.
He also was an obvious jerk.
Rest in peace
0:14 is that christopher?
obviously after the murders, but with the shot from distance onto 10050 Cielo -where were the mature trees in front of the house you can see the pond up the far end but no trees??
Wondering where the dog was when the murders happened??? Or maybe this video was recorded years later ???
How did the killers actually get into the house ? Did they bust down the door ?
DM McHugh because it was an extremely hot summer evening the windows were left open with screens. Remember this was 1969 and safety was an afterthought. Tex and the girls took a knife and sliced the screen and climbed into the house.
Window
A,window
@@kayleecoin176 Correction: Tex cut the screen and crawled through the window, then let the girls (2) into the front door which was unlocked. They all 3 walked into the living area (next to front door) to find a sleeping Voycheck on the couch. You know the rest...
If only she had 2 German shepherds at the time.
i couldnt have said it better, even though something horrific happened there, that house was beautiful,if i had money i would build me one like it, not out of anything morbid but just because i really like that arquitecture,also someone made a comment about the dogs being there, i will go to my grave thinking that there is something fishy about garretson's story , im not saying he did it but that he had to have heard something, actually i think he did but just didnt wanna investigate.
Maybe they just thought that the secluded, isolated & pitch dark place seemed creepy. Who knows? I'm only speculating.
@nilesdoopenshnoff garretson was one weird dude! i never knew he hid in the closet! where did u find that information out?
Wouldn't you hide?
What’s so weird about hiding in the closet? 🙄
Very eerie..
i was wondering sharon tate had some dogs that william was taking care of where they barking that night? surely people must have heard the screams and chaos going on that night according to some people they did hear some screams but ignored it thinking it was coyotes out there
Sharon was busy in her room with Jay Sebring.....
I read that the dogs were barking that night..but don't know if they started barking when one of the killers grabbed the doorknob..or when they heard the screaming and shots or both...but they were barking that night...so said Garretson
The eerie calm is because there is no audio on the 8 mm cameras in those days, duh
Peter ATWA. Let's hope that does NOT happen again on the same property. I don't like that the original house was torn down & replaced with that gigantic mansion. But I would NEVER wish the same brutal slaughter on whoever lives there now.
1220sassy Jeff Franklin the creator of Full House lives there now.
@Sabrina Dugan I couldn't live in the property. Period. Regardless if it's a new house or not.
I would like to see the caretakers quarters by the gates where Garretson stayed and hid while the murders taking place.
That’s the garage . The guest house where William Garretson lived was beyond the main residence past the pool
He sued the Tate's for damages that occurred during the murders (carpets furniture, draperies, landscaping), depreciation of the home because of trespassory conduct of property by Frykowsi and Folger, and other depreciation of the home because of "direct and proximate conduct of the defendants" (basically blaming the victims for being murdered because of their "actions"), and after Roman allegedly accepted 50,000 for a magazine spread-Altobelli sued for an additional $300,000 for (con't..)
I agree that the original house should not have been torn down to put up this gigantic mansion that sticks out like a sore thumb. But I certainly do NOT wish the same horrific murders on the people who now live there. Why would you want that to happen?
That new place is tacky af !! It looks like the house of pimp
@Sabrina Dugan lmao stop watching cartoons
in regard to what you said about Linda -all those involved state that she did not know they were going to murder the first night i am sure she went into shock but remember they had her daughter back at spahn and she did refuse to kill (to charlies face the next night) please do not call her a coward she was the main witness and had multiple death threats (and still does) she help put these animals away
None of the women knew where they were going till they were almost there .
Only Tex knew.
She was a drug addiction the and for the rest of her life she never changed even involved her own children.
It looks like a giant ad. for money without style. The '40s house fitted; a woodland house with landscaped gardens, trees, a lot more attractive. By all accounts it was a lovely, peaceful home, aside from 1 night. At least the new one has better security, if only 10050 had.
The Mercury 13 you have to remember this was 1969, nothing looked fancy and technologically advanced like today
Or maybe cuz it was so isolated, dark & quiet that it seemed creepy. Oh, who knows?
It's all about money. Was a beautiful place that should have been restored and used as a museum that generated funds for the victims and future victims of violence.
A museum where someone’s relative was senselessly brutally slaughtered? Nahhh
@@jeanandre6998Auschwitz is a museum 🤷♀️
Does anybody know if the twin house of the Tate house still standing???...I know the Tate house was torn down in the mid 90s.
The twin house (not identical, but similar) 10048 Cielo was also demolished and strangely enough replaced with a much smaller, similar version of the eyesore that replaced the original home at 10050.
Wasn’t born until 1970, however, my mother remembers every detail. How could any human murder another human, especially a pregnant woman, brutally without a second thought, and just for fun? Will never understand this shocking crime.
U don't understand generational curses and how Satan works is why u don't get this.
Roman most likely knew.
@@Adriana-vp1rmDon’t assume you know my religious background. Your comment was extremely insulting.
@@denisek292 A true Christian is never insulted.
@@Adriana-vp1rm A true Christian doesn’t judge. Your judgemental attitude is what makes ministering and witnessing to non-believers extremely difficult.
@@denisek292 This is laughable. So sad and laughable.
Why am I hearing this clow Christianity since so many years everywhere.
Don't judge! Don't judge....
Listen woman.
God said to judge.
The RIGHTEOUS judge all things so stop being stupid.
I'm so fed up with this joke Christianity is unbelievable.
I have funny Christians daily telling me Don't juuuudge like clowns.
Oh, bytheway, Jesus called the Gentiles dogs.
Hope u didn't fall of your chair deary.
There is an old car painted with 69 too.
Was this right after the tragedy? Who's Shepherd is that? Too bad he wasn't there when those bad people killed all of those innocent people. His barking could of alarmed Sharon to know someone was there
T Cline they didn't hear the gun shot when Tex killed Steven parent .so I don't think that would have care about a dag barking
I believe that is Rudy Altobelli's dog (Sharon's and Gibby's pets had been removed after the discovery). He had a couple, including a weimaraner named Christopher. His dogs were with Garretson, the caretaker.
they woulda shot that dog.....they were lunits. out of there mine. nothing woulda stoped them.....
kitty kitty Your Absolutely Right
T Cline That’s what’s Kasabian said when she visited the house with Bugliosi.
I heard that Jay Leno and his wife where looking to buy a house at one time, Their agent took them up to the orginal house 10050 Cielo Dr. They both fell in love with the house and grounds. They were considering buying it, until it was revealed that it was the house that SharonTate and the others were murdered in.They immediately changed their minds at that point. He later refered to it as the Manson House. It was a beautiful house but with a ugly history. It's a shame they tore it down.
theapeman2004 That house had deep-rooted troubling issues before the Polanskis moved in. Quite a history indeed.
where was the real secuity that just dont make no sense why they didnt have dogs and human to potect that place barb wire and all oh that right it was a free time so sad that could have save them
0:14 brandy
Million Dollar Question, Where Were The Dogs That Night, Also Why Didn't Anyone InThe Area Call The Police? A Counselor At An All Girls School Heard Voytek Frykowski Cry Out "Oh God No Please Don't"🤔🤔
I watched an interview with Sharon's mom I don't remember which one tho she said they found the dogs hidding don't remember under the bed or closet sorry it been along time and one dog was Sharon's and one was Abigail s
@@alicemilling3706 This dog in the video is a watch dog and was not there at the time of the murders. Any other dogs on the residence at the time of the murders were friendly pet dogs or puppies. William Garretson at the guest house was watching the owner (Rudi Altobelli) of the property's dogs as he was away in Europe. Ironically, this is sort of chilling but in a story by Susan Atkins, she stated that at one point while they were in the house and starting to tie up victims with ropes around their necks, she glanced over towards a window by the front porch and saw a dog outside peering in through the window watching what was going on. The dog spooked when it saw her looking back at it and simply vanished from the window. It was one of the Altobelli dogs. Also, the yelling by Frykowski was heard by the counselor who was down in the valley about 5 or 6 blocks away. Because it was down a steep hill and about 1/2 mile away, the counselor could not pinpoint where the screaming was coming from exactly. People who lived in this area said that loud noises (parties) would be heard constantly because a lot of celebrities and rich people would always be having big parties at night and the shape of the valley with the hills caused sounds and the acoustics to bounce all over the place confusing people from where sounds came from. The worst is that a neighbor next door was having their own party which ended at 12 midnight. The couple went to bed quickly after everyone left. The wife heard the Steve Parent gun shots sometime before 12:30 am and mentioned it to her husband. But since the long driveway (where Parent was shot) at the Tate house was about 100 yards away from the neighbor's house, this neighbor who was used to loud parties at the Tate house, ignored it and went to bed. The Tate house was another 50 yards away from the long driveway and thus about 150 yards away from this same neighbor. The neighbor never heard any other gunshots or screaming from the murdered victims who were inside the house nor on the front lawn when the Manson family members arrived.
Star Blazers It Is Very interesting all this that you count, in an article I had seemed to read this that you narrate, to lick is very sad that no one noticed or listen to something to suspect and to call the police, was something tragic happened, in any case being as You count and being neighbors close and accustomed to hear parties is logical to ignore it, it's a shame what happened, I wish I had been Bruce Lee there that night (which they say was invited) perhaps it would have been different all, all my love for Sharon and his precious Baby 👶 for your family and friends 💖
TermsofService Ah, yes?
TermsofService stupid 😂😂😂
Ok. So where was the dog?!?! Locked up somewhere?!? If so, by whom?!?
Where was the dog? They didn't have that dog. They put one on to guard the premises after the murders.
the masions that standing here now is so haunted
Altobelli later sued the Sharon Polanski estate for the damage done to his house during the murders and after. Her estate was left to her parents. Great guy.
Christine Flores i think it was just for the carpet which both Roman and Col. Tate got on their knees and scrubbed by hand to get the blood stains out, can you imagine a father trying to clean the blood of his murdered daughters body off the carpet?
Jackie Morris yeah, although looking at the crime scene pics that carpet would need to be replaced at least in the area Sharon was lying, i think Rudi was angry with Roman for letting Voytek and Abigail move in temporarily because it was against the rental agreement and also because at the time following the murders there was alot of speculation about Voytek and Jays drug use and contacts
what a fucken skum bag
Sharon's Father, Paul, had to sadly cleaned up his daughter's blood from the interior of that house. The walls, the carpets, everything while planning her funeral. I sincerely hope the soulless bastard, Rudi, is burning in hell.
Kimberly J. Sullivan yea that's terrible.....very sad...
If this is really true, it's hard to accept that a family that was subject to such a horrible crime would get sued. And to be frank, I can't believe that without a reliable source. Could you please share where your info is from...? It could just be badmouthing someone too.
it's well documented, it's part of the Sharon Tate estate record, available from "Celebrity Collectibles" a website that has hundreds of celebrity wills, autopsy reports, etc., get your head out of your ass.
L A times I believe. Rudi Altobelli ( owner of that property ) did sue Roman Polanski & Sharon's family for damages
Yes the owner Rudy Altobelli did sue Sharon’s family for damages . He also was suing because it was leased as a single family dwelling . The Polanskis broke a rule of the lease when Abigail Folger and Voytek Frykowski started residing there. There was a settlement for a few thousand for damages. Regardless of the situation it was in the most extremest of bad taste showing no compassion whatsoever for the family after such a tragic loss. Rest in Heaven Steven Parent~ Abigail Folger~ Voytek Frykowski ~Jay Sebring ~Sharon and baby Paul❤️
@@danielkelly6790 Well, buisness is buisness. The owner knew Polanski was rich, besides by offering his first- born he would be in the gold club for life.
If he did.
I think he did.
Being ricih doesn't mean you have taste or style. What passes for talent these days would be laughable 50 years ago. Come to think of it....it's laughable now.
Today's 'schelebrities', for the most part, are boorishly uninteresting, self-absorbed people with no class or brains (but with lots of money, of course). If there was ever a time when it was embarrassing to actually be one, it's definitely now. (yawn.....)
Its true I've been in that house, it wasn't particularily amusing, just some washed up Hollywood writer living there now.
If they were gun owners this never would have happened....
They were
@@alexmasswell5905 um, no guns were found in the house
@@joenickell6323 uhh Roman had a gun in the closet
As long as I live there and the doors were locked I felt safe . But when he kept up the nonsense of leaving the doors unlocked I just knew that it was time to move from there and I am very happy that I did .
@Melanie Jarrett no I've never ever lived there in my life.
@Melanie Jarrett where is that street located,in what state ? Just asking out of curiosity. Pretty please, thank you.
@Melanie Jarrett I am sure really truly honestly grateful that I didn't,don't live there . He was a guy 👦 who was a sicko . It's a shame that the people were killed. I was 16 years old at the time when he had his followers kill the people. I remember when it happened like it was yesterday .It has been over 51 years ago when it happened. His followers were as well sickos .
yeah thanks for that - thought that was odd - a mini Cielo drive!
@tyamster - so I hear....I think all murderers tyamster should rot in hell personally.........some have committed attrocities that make the Manson murders seem quite tame believe it or not !
@Bhav341 The residence was actually damaged to the point that it would have cost more to repair than it was worth (the house, not the property itself) after the 1994 Earthquake right after Trent Reznor moved out). Peace
Not so
Should've had the Dog and no trespassing sign there from the get go.
@Jimo means from beginning like when Polanski first moved he should've put security dogs to protect the property cause the gate wasn't a good deterant to would be thieves or killers.
Do you really think a no trespassing sign would have stopped them?! Might as well say. "If only murder was illegal "
Why, is a dog immune to a .22 caliber bullet?
Scott Michaels @ Dearly Departed Tours sells bits of the rubble from the stone work of the house. Makes a GREAT morbid weird gift for someone !
That big ugly mansion is built just before you get to the gate that leads to the Tate house.
@garyj79 she was a prostitute,not a dog.
rick dalton brought me here
@alexthebullo well she was kind of both really cos no woman should grow a mustache......it was also in reply to dannatiporci55 who I have a feeling is a Manson 'supporter'
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California Governor Newsome wasnt even born then
@imperatorcaesar100 It was somebody elses house, Rudy Autobelli's. He never recouped his losses on the property, I know it's a cynical way to look at it, but the house ruined his life. He even had to get Roman to pay to have the house redecorated and industrially cleaned. He had really bad luck trying to get rid of the house for the next 20 years, it was hardly lived in. I think knocking it down was the right idea as it would only attract tours of fans.
ITS AMAZING NOBODY HEARD ANYTHING,THERE ARE HOUSES ALL AROUND THERE
The nearby neighbors all heard something
A lot of people don't want to get involved even if they do "hear something" or see something. I'd hate to have that on my conscious.
@Handiman544 man i couldnt agree with ya more on the talent thing!!
what talent thing? People said that Sharon was very talented, but in all honesty, I failed to see that. Her movies were okay and Valley of the Dolls was a bomb, but maybe in time...she wanted to do comedy, but never saw herself as a really serious actress.
Okay, in a way I can understand what you're trying to say. But why do you call him the simpleton Garretson? Stop & think about how he must have felt after those murders occured so close to where he was. If he tells a couple of strange stories then; oh well. If it were me in that guesthouse when the slaughtering took place; I'm not quite sure what it would have done to me. Just saying.