Winchester Silvertip 22lr Ammo Review
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Paul tests some Winchester Silvertip 22lr ammo.
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These late night uploads sure do a number on my sleeping habits, but it's worth it.
I always forget Oregon is 3 hours behind me in New England, that's why it is always so late!!!
You have sleeping habits? Oh tell me, what's that like? 🤣
@@happyclampopper It's generally good, but sometimes it ain't
@@Isaac_5.56x45 Same
4 am here.
Considering how much time I am spending with .22LR's as of late, I am really appreciating at these .22 videos. Much respect for the detail.
I was sitting here battling depression, as one does at night, and I saw this. It has nothing to do with my problems and provides a nice distraction. Great timing. :) Seriously, it helps stomp down the bad feelings to have quality presentations like this to watch. Thank you for making videos.
Edit: Thank you to everyone who replied. Your offers of help and well wishes mean a lot in a world that often ridicules such problems. :) You made a difference in someone's life.
Have you tried smoking bath salts and eating someone’s face like a pizza?
Works for me.
@@dr.floridamanphd Hey, this is Paul Harrell, not Mr Ballen.
Sir Wallace, if you are just talking shite then, ha, ha, ha. If you are serious and are having bad thoughts at night, find someone to talk to, depression and suicide kill far too many men. It is not funny at all, they are lost and family and friends are devastated.
As somebody else replied, if you're being serious reach out. If keep reaching out until somebody reaches back. I've lost 6 friends in 6 months.. If you have nobody, email me
Hang in there. Life is nothing but a series of temporary situations. ✌🐸
I never thought I would meet you considering I'll probably never make it to one of those Oregon gun shows. Imagine my surprise when when I saw you at the rest stop ! Hope you had an uneventful trip as I did.
Made it. :)
@@steprob8692 haha
I'm surprised Paul needed to stop. I assumed he had an entire rest stop in one of his pockets.
Did you get his autograph?!?
@@reddune6185 I did not. I don't think Paul would go in for that kind of thing. I'm frequently around famous musicians at work. Asking for autographs is highly unprofessional & I am not the star-struck type. What sort of musicians ? Rock, country, metal, rap, folk & anyone who is or has been popular over the last 40 years.
Having said that, I got a positive boost from meeting Paul as I have a great deal of respect for him & what he does.
I don't know how much you read comments but I just wanted to say that you are one of the best content creators on this platform. I greatly admire and respect your dedication to providing people with as much information as possible. As someone who doesn't have much experience with firearms I find your style of presentation refreshing and invaluable, as you provide facts, evidence, and anecdotes while also tactfully allowing me to come to my own conclusions about what is best for me. Also while some people might make fun of your "Shatner-esque" pauses, to me your manner of speaking and your extensive vocabulary feel as though you're making an effort to always be impeccable in your word choices so as not to be misconstrued. Which also reinforces my belief that you're not being overly facetious just to win an argument or make a point. It's doubly impressive as I assume most of your presentations are unscripted. TL;DR Thank you sincerely for your service. Both for our country, and for our minds.
I try to read all the comments, not always successfully.
Thank you for your input.
I'm new to firearms as well and I totally agree. I learn a ton from Paul.
Paul blends into his surroundings while not wearing “camo”.
So true! It's almost surreal. The man is the quintessential hunter. Of men, mice , and probably anything else that lives.
The surroundings blend into Paul, and they do so out of fear.
@@AussieFlavio I say respect but I see where your going with this HaHaHa
Gray Man Theory. It's a "real thing" .
Paul is the Chuck Norris of camo.
Another bed time story brought to us in part by Paul, time zone differences and upload rates.
Sure beats ole Goldiwhats Herface and those bears.
She really shouldn't have been fooling around with those bears anyway. Future welfare recipient that one.
@@sheldoniusRex, she ended up on social security disability after Papa Bear tracked her down.
@@dr.floridamanphd Odd really, I would have thought that the "Bears" were more interested in her brother?
Remington Golden Bullet and the three meat targets
@Craig Robertson oh no, she realised after the ordeal the value of self-sufficiency and, a few months later, brought a few sacks of porridge oats from the farm she had established by way of recompense. They still exchange merry stories of those formative days over endless bowls of porridge every sunday to this day.
I can't help but chuckle every time Paul refers to himself as an "average" shooter. The average shooter doesn't have championship medals on multiple continents.
Someone said it best in a previous video: "On a scale from me to Jerry Miculek, Paul is average."
@@gaiusterminus Sounds about right, lol
It's the only time he lies to the audience.
I like that Paul is rather demure in his assessment of his abilities; talking about how some ammo is more accurate than he can shoot it, all the while owning multiple marksmanship championships.
What you mentioned in comment is EXACTLY why I call Paul Harrell THE AYATOLLAH! His humility and knowledge is complimentary to his professional experience.
LONG LIVE THE AYATOLLAH! 👍😁🇺🇸
Paul Harrell: I’m an ok shooter. (While doing head shots with his 38 special snub nose at 700 yards)
Yes a true gentleman.
Pauls an excellent shot. But he’s right, the mechanical accuracy of a .22lr is better than anyone can achieve offhand with a micro pistol @20yds with him and the target shifting in the breeze.
In my humble opinion, recognizing a consummate professional is king. While he stands there and says that the gun is more accurate than he is, I _know_ that his experience eclipses my own. So when he expresses an opinion I take it as gospel - and I'm an atheist. Do I really need to say more?
I love this guy. He's the only person who could get me to watch a video about .22lr.
Have you seen his .22lr reliability demonstration?
22Plinkster just died a little on the inside.
@@wyattblessing7078 I like Plinkster, but his last several videos have been straight-up commercials.
@@onpsxmember sure have
@@wyattblessing7078 nothing against him. Just not my favorite round. Nothing wrong with it. Just doesn't do it for me. I could watch Paul peel onions and be enthralled.
I said it as a kid, and I'll say it now at 62. " It's hard to beat those stingers"💥💥💥
Thanks for the video. While I appreciate the velocity exercise I think the Silver Tips did exactly what I wanted to see. The distance I would expect to use a .22lr for personal defense to be useful is about 15 yards and probably closer--more like 3 to 10. As many have said more up close and personal. Also, I have seen a gel block comparison of .22lr defense ammo by "Buffalo's Outdoors" channel. In that comparison the wound track caused by the Silver Tip was very impressive, as it was also on the "Pat RMG" channel. Furthermore, one of the cardinal rules of defending yourself is know where else the round may end up beyond the intended target. What I took away from both your and the other reviewers exercises was the SilverTip velocity did take it somewhat less in distance/penetration but it segmented and did desirable damage in the "aggressor". So, I think its "intended use case" as I have described makes it at the top of my list for probably use. I might also point out that you confirmed its segmenting damage potential in your hand. It was good to see that all those brands in your exercise were also potentials. Again, I am sure we all very much appreciate your variety of educational and informational videos.
Hey Paul, I just wanted you to know that you’re amazing. Thank you, you make my Monday better. Bless you.
I grew up with guns and respect them for the weapons they are but I have to say I despise most of what passes for firearm culture these days. This guy is incredible. Always a focus on intellectual honesty, responsibility, and education. Keep up the good work.
WHAT??!! You DARE to challenge ME, Captain Urban Tacticool Ultimate Super-Operator when I have the beard, camouflage gear, and enough weapons to arm the Taliban but no real training, education, or experience in anything I talk about??!! FINE!! Go watch Paul Harrell! See if I care! :) (uber-sarcasm off).
Yes, and if he'd just set a good example by wearing eye protection, I'd give him a gold star.
I watch this guy and used to watch dugan ashley. Love them both for different reasons.
@@Johnny.Fedora he does when it's warranted. Paper targets and chronograph he usually doesn't while he's on camera. Anything that can ricochet or splatter back he does wear glasses often off camera.
@@Johnny.Fedora Paul has responded to this "observation" many, many times.
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First time I watched Paul, I was shocked at how effective his fleece bullet stop is.
I tried watching at 1.25 speed, but couldn't. Paul Harrell's perfection can not be rushed.
I’m here to say: Thank God for My Wife, my Daughter, Midway USA, Brownell’s, and Paul “Pullrack” Harrell.
I’ve abandoned Midway for their opportunistic price-gouging during the ammo shortage.
Finally got the AR out to the range again this year, and decided to rip off the silly optic I had on it and go with the iron sights and man am I happy. I forgot how surgical the accuracy is on this rifle with it's standard optics.
As a handloader, I know that one can reduce muzzle flash and blast by loading a type (generally "flash-suppressed") and quantity of powder which will be more completely consumed in a short barrel, and ensure expansion of the projectile by choosing one fragile or soft enough to upset at low velocities. Generally that is what manufacturers mean by "optimized for short barrels/handguns". As to velocity, the fastest round from a long barrel will be the fastest from a short one...
Interestingly, the Stingers gained about 30% speed from the shortest barrel (LCP) to the longest (10/22). The other three gained very close to 25%. I was surprised it was that consistent, but clearly, you're not. :)
There should be a Paul Harrell action figure!
There is one. Check some of his older vids.
Yes....but one for sale.
Beautiful. I agree, I won’t one to put on one of my shelves.
Paul Harrel Bobblehead
Just get a G.I. Joe and blast his hair with about 120psi of air...
Paul Harrel feeds ammo through his pistols.
Florida Man feeds the algorithm
If I were to move to the USA it would be to Florida. So much darned fun you have there.
Florida "invisibly short shorts" Man is a joke. Albeit an admittedly good one. He is playing the audience and does it well whereas Paul is responsibly informing (Paul's famous presentations are almost scientific lectures). Paul Harrell FTW.
@@demezon6572 the guy you responded to doesn't have any YT videos up. Are you thinking of someone else?
@@darthkek1953 : yeah, I ventured to feed the algorithm with a twist. Was pointing to the TFB channel, where an exceptional lawyer escapes the legalese and engages in funny rants - and presentations. Visit his channel for a good laugh and some pieces of advice to remember. ATTENTION! Some get dazzled & confused by those "invisibly short shorts" there. To say nothing of his fine colorful language; very idiosyncratic indeed.
TFB is based in Florida, too.
@@demezon6572 OK. Fair enough. I recognise they guy from TFB but I haven't seen him in years. For me PH for guns, Joerg Sprave for modern crossbows, and Tod Cutler/Workshop and ScholaGladatoria for medieval weapons. That's about it for weapons for me. Nice covering of bases.
Got to love this mans sense of humor.
Imagine being part of the 0.003% of viewers who down vote Paul Harrell videos. That's an elite level special kind of silly.
they must be jackrabbits and squirrels
Yeah. Mostly egoists with a jealousy/resentfulness problem. But then, that's a "them" problem.
@@brotherbreeze8351 You know the score, Brother! 👍
12th Special Elite Silly Brigade, Sir!
If it goes bang, cycles a semi auto, and hits the intended target it is better than an empty magazine.
While the numbers and results weren’t impressive, a loaded gun versus an empty gun during “shortages” can be enough difference to make a difference. 😁
I did try some of these awhile back. Unfortunately I can’t remember my results. I’m sure it wasn’t spectacular, but I don’t recall if there were any malfunctions.
I suppose that’s enough excuse for another range trip.
Another great video 👍😁
That is the bottom line...we don't depend on our .22's, but if we loaded them a chance beats no chance...we do depend on our .22's for affordable range time, and they shine in that role...now I want to go today and blow up a few rounds...☺
I keep my High Standard Sentinel nine shot 6" barrel revolver loaded with Stingers or Velocitors. It's definitely not high on the Go To List, but it could do some damage.
@@Salieri47 no doubt...and the longer barrel only helps...rule #1 is pretty open minded and simple, have a gun...
An oasis of calm in these outrageous times. Thanks Paul.
Paul still cracks me up when he points at himself and says "The Average Shooter". At 20 yards, I'd need a bigger target.
I just posted the same thought. If he's the 'average shooter' then I'm not even the greenest of n00bz!
My .357 ego just shriveled down to 22 short at that line.
Notice how nature in the background is perfectly still as Paul goes about his comparison. Nature knows not to mess with Paul.
I think we can all agree that only Paul could make a 20+ minute video testing and reviewing one single brand of .22 and make us wish there was an "extended cut". Between Paul and Ian at FW, who could ask for anything more as a firearms enthusiast?
I know what you mean! I don't own a 22, don't pay attention to 22 ammo choices, but here I am thinking, "The video is over already???"
I can't believe I watch this. I can't stop watching this. Educational I guess. I'm getting pretty good at guessing the numbers. Outstanding AF.
Good to see someone picking up on Paul's power to feel the velocity in each shot! If you are getting good at guessing, you may develop this ability yoo.
Am I the only one slightly enamored watching him point to numbers he can't see?
forgot to turn off his aimbot
He's looking at the camera view screen dude... Did you think weathermen can't see the screen either?
He doesn’t actually see the chronograph. He sees the bullet leaving the barrel and can read it’s velocity.
@@danielaramburo7648 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍
He sees it on the camera viewer, but to be fair, there is no possible way I could even see THAT at the tripod distance he uses. I would be able to see the small movements on the screen, but not the tiny boxes on the bulletin board, and *_definitely_* not the numbers printed. He has remarkable eyesight - something I assume most competitive shooters are blessed with - BUT I believe it is his peripheral vision that is almost inhuman. Watch any of his old videos and you will notice what I mean. His peripheral vision is unnatural.
CCI stinger all day everyday I figured this was the case but I love the in depth review!
*stangers
You can sure hear the difference when those projectiles come out of a longer barrel and break the sound barrier.
The unmistakable CRACK of supersonic bullets gives me chills...and makes me smile.
Thanks Paul.
You've made my day a little happier.
😉🤞🚬
AWESOME another great Paul Harrell production!
I like that Paul mostly demonstrates with time tested calibers and firearms.
I'm not one to go out and buy the newer calibers. BTW my deer rifle is over 100yrs old.
@Thomas Jackson Bet both of 'em will still put venison in the freezer, too. Old don't mean junk!
I haven't yet seen a .22 comparison video where the CCI Stinger *wasn't* the clear winner.
I bought them every time I saw them before the "shortage". I love the round. Very fun to shoot soda cans and bottles out of my 10/22.
You need to see him compare them to the Hurtenburger Buscaderos and the Tiiiiicooooonnnndas
@Craig Robertson
I’ve only seen a couple and that was over at Buffalo Outdoors IIRC. I believe Silver Tips and Yellow Jackets he tested were the only ones that had expansion in short barrels but Stingers otherwise did best.
For me it’s Stingers all the way for hunting, but usually shoot them out of rifles or 6”+ pistol barrels. I did used to like the YJs also as they did better out of the 4” Ruger Mark II we had years ago. Bigger cavity in YJ seemed to open up when nothing else did on rabbits out of that short barrel. I also like anything with the truncated cone shape in .22 autos as they feed better than round nose in everything I have. Both loads are good in that regard in my experience.
Just when we needed him most...
It is just disappointrg how the ammunition manufacturers are so cynical about their customers → put a fancy name on the box, make an outrageous claim (e.g., optimized for zombie werewolf vampires), jack up the price by 2 or 3 times, and then wait for the rubes to line up. Despicable!
Thanks for another honest review. Maranatha!
But people buy it!
Nice to see the Ruger LCP II in the analysis, I picked one up for a summer carry option and have become quite fond of the little pocket pistol. I'll be switching to Stingers based on this video, currently carrying mini mags. Thank you for your time and effort!
Do I have any interest in the ammo brand being presented? Nope
Will I watch the video anyway? Absolutely
Mini Mag is my brand of choice.
They came in second here.
Don’t even own a 22, going to watch every minute.
It’s 6:15am in Germany 🇩🇪 and a new Paul Harrell video is online…. Best start in the day ever
Conclusion: if you dont have a chronograph and you wanna know whenever the advertisement on the box is BS - send couple of boxes to Paul.
Also, for math people Paul can set up public google spreadsheet with columns "gun, barrel length, bullet, velocity, distance, group size, wind speed, outside temperature" per each shot data. And some comment for example
Thank you. I love objectivity and ammunition.
From the time I was a teenager in the 80,s I've always used Stingers for hunting any small game. Squirrels, rabbits.frogs, turtles, even quail and head shots on turkeys. Very accurate in my old Remington bolt action at the time. For plinking we just always bought the cheap boxes of thunderbolt at Wal-Mart for .50 cents a box. But there is a huge difference in the two. Love shooting 22lr. Now all my grandkids have 22lr,s and we still have a blast. I should have bought them single shots instead of Ruger 10/22 with 25 rnd mags. They can go through a bucket of bullets in a day.
You're doing good things Paul, good things...
This is the reason I never pass up stringers when in find them on sale. Unfortunately I haven't seen any in nearly 2 years. Thanks for the awesome video!!!
So true. I picked up a box of stingers which I gave to my daughter for her 22 pistol. It has a short barrel, but by Paul's test, they are the fastest, which, I hope means better penetration. It's all her little hands will handle, and hopefully more than enough to convince any bad people to run, or go down.
I was lucky enough to get a few boxes of stingers earlier today. I was genuinely surprised because it was the first time I've ever seen them not sold out.
@@johnshields9110 Generally, more velocity stifles penetration in an expanding bullet.
@@CJ-by8ij yup, I bought a box of stingers at academy yesterday...could have bought 3 more, but instead bought 3 boxes mini-mags...as much .22 as we blow up had to go with quantity...
On sale means you found some and probably at double the price 😁
Thanks for making the Winchester Silvertip 22LR video.
I have little interest in this topic.
I loved every second of this presentation.
Bravo Zulu, Paul!
I like how incredulous Paul sounds when he says the fancy names manufacturers give their bullets types.
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We dug out a brick of Remington yellow box 22lr from the ammo can stash from dad's old gunshop he closed down in 1982. We went to the range to test a few new S+W ar15-22's and a tx22. Amazingly, it all went bang and made holes in the paper right where we were aiming. What I think is, there is a recipe for 22lr that is very hard to deviate from, because there are so many platforms to shoot from the manufacturers are very limited as to what will work as far as projectile weight, amount of power and it's burn rate to effectively cycle in auto loaders and also work in manual loaders. So basically we have relatively small variations in total energy across the board. What do you think?
Does altitude also affect chrono results? Looks like lovely late summer weather and Paul is camouflaged without wearing cammo. It’s that time of the year where Paul’s Halloween special and Thanksgiving wild cook out are around the corner. My most watch treasured couple of hours of mine in a world increasing in tedium, pestilence and repression.
In theory, lower air density would increase velocities especially at range but some even at the muzzle. Only problem is higher altitude usually also means lower temps and low ammo temps reduces velocity. Of course the differences are small enough that you can ignore them unless your a sniper trying to pull off a two mile shot.
Cant wait for those
The point is the comparative results, not the absolute results. Weather conditions, altitude, sobriety of the shooter, etc. should be even for all brands tested in the same relatively brief period.
Altitude in and of itself doesn’t affect muzzle velocity, but the higher you go in altitude the lower average barometric pressure gets, and barometric pressure does affect powder burn and aerodynamics, thus affecting velocity.
@@MaxwellAerialPhotography, modified powder burn won't affect muzzle velocity?
(Why do that call it "velocity" anyway? The projectile is completely restricted in direction, so they might as well use a scalar unit.)
Been shooting CCI for years, seems to be working ok. Another great video, thank you! 🇺🇸😎🐇.
Great discussion Paul! Thanks for doing all the work that you do! BTW when CCI stingers first came out , they were a real game changer for our.22 LR rifles.
As a 22lr fan, I appreciate your time on "only a 22" as I'm ribbed my many, to bring light and knowledge to the shall I say " narrow minded" people that say a 22 won't kill you, these are the people I don't argue the point.... I just no longer shoot with, for my own safety..... Great video, much appreciated, thank you, take care and God bless
Nobody dissing .22LR ever seems to want to stand in front of one... I wonder why? 🤔
Paul, Thank You for you're Service, experience and instruction. I enjoy you're way of explaining and demonstrations. You make yourself more than clear for the people with limited knowledge about a particular subject. Great Job!
Ty Paul for all your videos your the best. God bless you and your family your a national treasure. You have the most educational videos on youtube and you helped me alot.
Need an AK guy colab. i want to see if paul can go a whole video without getting murderous
Haha I can't even imagine those two existing on the same plane. I presume Paul would be very disappointed.
My understanding is that Brandon actually really likes Paul, and would probably be as respectful as possible, yeah he's a channel about fun and hahas, but he can be serious if he needs to be
Always good to catch a Paul Harrell video when I get home from work.
Immediate click. Don't care what Paul is talking about. Thank you. BTW: I love the comments!
Liking and posting for that catchy Al Gore Rhythm! Staying for the great, intelligent commentary!
... and I'm watching a video about .22 ammo because??? Paul Harrell, of course! Oh, and NO, I'm not willing to stand in front of Paul when he's firing those .22s!
Thanks for another great video. I think it’s easy to take for granted the time you put into these videos. Digging the bullets out of the ribs to show deformation is too much for me. But I’m glad you do it! Big 👍🏼.
This was an excellent review and greatly appreciated. The Stinger, IMHO, is impressive in the 22LR. I have a Barretta Bobcat (2.4" barrel) and Ruger 10/22, so this video has convinced me I can no longer justify the 22 magnum I've always wanted. The 22LR loaded with Stingers definitely suffices. Thank you so much for doing this review.
Great video Paul thank you it's always nice to have a heads up on hype ammo
The Stingers walked away with this one. Not surprised.
CCI is my 22LR choice , but I would like Winchester to start making the 32 ACP Silvertips again.
Try the .32 ACP Xtreme Defenders from Underwood. Best .32 self-defense ammo today in my opinion.
I still have some vintage 32acp silvertips.
Actually, I'd like to see Winchester start making the BLACK TALON
ammo again. If you ever saw how that ammo expanded, you would
know why.
@@hansanderson6607 Ranger T series is basically just black talon renamed, iirc.
Thank you for the new presentation
So much for sleep tonight, thanks Paul.
Back in the early days of my previous career, a whole LOT of us carried .22s as BUGs. The guns were cheaper than .38 snubbies (even the dirt cheap zinc specials tended to work well), the ammo was cheaper than .38 or .25, and we'd all grown up shooting .22s and respected it's capabilities. Stingers were the order of the day for ammo with MiniMags coming in a close second. My preference later went to the Mini-Mags out of concern the Stingers might not penetrate enough. I see now we were fine with either.
Same here. My top 2 pics exactly. Recently got 8 boxes of stingers off Armslist at a bargain.
Isn’t it annoying when manufacturers try to get you to pay high prices for hype, rather than genuinely better products?
Well if I were concerned about self defense from a potential Vampire assailant I'd be heavily influenced by advertising that implied the projectile had a silver tip.
@@fema_camper I’m ready for the Zombie apocalypse but I hadn’t thought about the Vamp’s.
@@bubbajones5905 Oh yeah, it's a real thing here in Oregon. We even have the hybrid brain dead blood suckers to worry about!
Well , the meat targets were only tested from the 2.5 inch bbl , with which all the loads had low enough velocities , that minimal ( bullets doing various terminal things as designed ) took place with any of them .
If they were tested with +\- 5 inch pistol , or even a rifle , there would be significant differences between the different loads .
@@fema_camper In Michigan here. We haven't gotten bloodsuckers yet aside from mosquitoes, however I'll put together a crossbow with thick wooden stakes as bolts just in case if any appear here.
Well, I have to say thank you. I did buy a 22 handgun and I did purchase several boxes of the silvertip because it stated it was made for the short barrels. I also bought them because my neighbours are a wall thickness away and several other RUclipsrs showed that they don't over-penetrate.
I'm sure they could make life really difficult for somebody if it comes down to that.
I'm sure by now everyone is a faithful follower and have seen and look forward to the 🍖 meat target....another great 👍 review.
I bought a couple of boxes last week mainly cause I saw them on a normally bare shelf. Then went to the range. I fired five rounds out of each of my two Beretta Bobcats that recently came back from the shop after getting refurbished internally. All rounds went bang as opposed to the CCI Mini Mag solids that I’d wanted to carry as a defensive round. I hadn’t played with these pistols for quite a while, but was reminded that the little Berettas didn’t like certain CCI primers. Also discovered I’d been shooting striker fired and single action guns for a long time and forgot that the second strike capability of a DA/SA. Anyway, the Silver Tip 22s cycled thru my 34 & 37 year old Bobcats just fine. Glad you demonstrated these rounds thru a stubby-barreled 22 pistol. For 22LR in self defense mode, I think I’d prefer penetration at the risk of little to no expansion if using it from a short barreled handgun. I like your use of the “meat” targets and an curious if any of the so called industry experts and FBI ballistics testers would someday care to comment on that medium compared to 10% ordinance gelatin. Other recent You Tube videos I’ve seen testing the Silver Tip have used bare gelatin to get penetration of 12-13 inches. Anyway, great video. I’ll continue to keep my little Berettas loaded with the ST cause I know it goes bang and cycles. I’ll keep the Mini Mags for the S&W revolvers and 10/22s.
Well I’ve got three boxes of this stuff and haven’t shot any so thanks for finding out for me if it’s good or not mr Harrell
My dad worked for Omark / CCI (Lewiston) when I was a little kid (circa 1972) Got to go to his workplace and see things going on. To this day, I still think their .22 is among the best. But - they can only make so much of it... Much love for MiniMags, & Stingers!!!
I wonder how many of these videos I can now recite verbatim at this point. Best entertainment on the Internet.
I follow four firearms channels: Paul Harrel, Forgotten Weapons, mixup98, & Target Suite. This' the only channel where I regularly re-watch vids.
Another 22LR pistol ammo review and the Stingers seem to come out on top. The more I see and hear of Stingers, the more really want to get some to try myself.
IF you can find them, they won't be exactly "cheap". Expect to pay a
premium for them, maybe 30-40% more than regular .22LR ammo.
I have seen them at Academy for 9.99 relatively recently. Also pretty commonly available on CCI's website but they get you on shipping unless you spend 100.
@@rob6850 yeah my local shop has them and they were only $10 a box I think so I snagged some
Nice, I just bought me a 22LR pistol, and I used silvertips with my 308..didn't even knew they made some in 22LR!
Great video! Thanks Paul!
I always look forward to your videos, there is no measure for their realness...
Another Paul Harrell video to pass a long night at work.
I believe the "optimized for handguns" marketing more refers to the performance threshold of the segments, similar to how your hollowpoint expansion threshold was explained, rather than velocity or pressures out of pistol barrels.
Yeah, I think Paul kinda glossed over the segmenting aspect of the silvertips...i've watched a couple videos of the round shot into gel, and if the same result was achieved in the meat target I wish he had pointed it out, or if it didn't segment...
This is an interesting point
Optimized for handguns is code for this sucks in rifles so don’t even bother.
@@ragnarlothbrok9133 That is not necessarily true for segmenting/fragmenting ammunition. I did some extra research on silver tips and there is another youtuber who tested with a 16 inch barrel and it performed similarly, but with deeper penetration. Hollowpoints might get worse penetration when used at higher velocities, but this does not necessarily apply to this projectile.
@@ragnarlothbrok9133 if it goes bang we will find application...we can always shoot paper with poor ammunition...
Unfortunately, the barrel I put on my 10/22 came with an etching that said it can't handle Stingers. When I contacted the manufacturer they told me it was because of a dimensional difference from "normal" 22LR rounds.
It's great you read it. I wonder if people read all the safety data, or just assume.
I'd love to see Paul do a comparison between .17 HMR and .22 WMR
That'd be interesting.
I've fired a lot of Hornady brand .17 HMR and I can say it's great for obliterating small game.
You could always send him some ammo and ask him to compare the two.
Not a bad idea, if I can find any .17 I just may do that.
Thanks Paul for your no nonsense review! Always enjoy your common sense approach to the videos.
Thanks for taking the time to share with us all. I like your practical field testing that approximates average shooter performance.
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Love how Paul reads the chrono numbers like he’s introducing us to some old friends
😂 yup. Paul loves this shit
I always enjoy your videos Paul. I wonder though, while velocity is telling, does foot pounds of energy bear mentioning? For instance, Silvertips, Mini-Mag and Yellow Jackets are around 69-70 fpe, whereas Stingers are 78 fpe (all based on bullet weight and your average velocity). So in "the difference that may not make a difference" department, the Stinger is 14.3% faster than Silvertips, its fpe is less, at 11.4% stronger. Admittedly, distinction of fpe is probably more substantive in higher calibers. Thanks for covering all this neat stuff for us!
Winchester just about always exaggerates their ammo velocities. Their definition of 'optimized for handguns' means that it likely has less flash and the bullet fully performs out of a handgun.
most likely a faster burning powder so no flash and better velociry
Can we test this velociry against celery and brocorri?
@@MrDillaKilla Would be a waste of ammunition. :)
@@markh.6687 but the velociry must be measured!
@@MrDillaKilla is velociry a kind of fruit? :P
Mr. Harrell. I have recently discovered your channel and I am so happy I did! Yes, you have a little Shatner in your cadence but your information is spot on. Keep the chrono in and keep doing what you are doing. You have one more fan in me.
Solid presentation as always.
These demonstrations are downright useful!
At over $0.20 a round at the very cheapest, I'm incredibly disappointed with ther Winchester Silvertip ammo. It's the overhype like this that gives "hyper ammo" a bad name. The Federal Punch was actually truthful. Winchester seems to fudge the numbers quite a bit.
Ive rarely found any reason to use anything other than the CCI mini mag/segmented 40 grain line, OR a basic 40 grain subsonic round nose.
.20 cent a round!!!!!?????????? Wow, disgusting
That's insane, you can find 22 Winchester Super X for around 60 percent of that price for 100 rounds.
Merchandising! Merchandising! May the Schwartz be with you! (Spaceballs).
I love .22lr ammo, thanks for your demonstrations.
Me: I only shoot cci and I have an embarrassing amount plus I don't use .22 for self defense.
Also me: clicks immediately because of my man crush on Paul.
You're so bromantic.
As always a great video and good comparison of 22lr rounds.
When I lived in Florida I shot a lot of Armadillos with mini mags and stingers. Both worked well, but the stingers were outstanding in both rifles and handguns. .22 mag hollow points (Ruger single six) worked even better.
Paul is actually a decommissioned genetically engineered super soldier built by the U.S army in the 1980s
I was just getting ready to go to sleep and saw this fresh upload so I had to watch...😁
I find it interesting that there was quite a jump in velocity between the 2.5" LCP and the 4" M&P where the barrel length was not even twice as long but not a greater jump like I was expecting between the 4" M&P and the 18.5" 10/22 where the barrel length was over four times longer...
I wonder at what barrel length is the optimum for velocity and where any longer will not help any more?
I think it all depends on the particular round. What works for one may not work for the other.
I would believe if you contacted Paul and provided some barrel lengths he might put it to the test so we can be the judge?
If you are using standard velocity target grade ammo (SK, RWS, Eley, etc) you will be slowing down after 18-20 inches of barrel. When you have consistent primer and powder load and burn them completely in a long enough barrel, that is how you get velocities in a 5-10 fps window. Add to that a match chamber tight enough to increase pressure and expand the heel of the bullet to engage the rifling and throw in a flat nose to avoid yaw and tilt into cross winds, then you get quarter inch groups at 100 yards
I wish that I could remember the name of the website. They have a very extensive database showing the results of shooting a wide variety of calibers and ammo in different barrel lengths. IIRC with most pistol ammo calibers the velocity increase maxes out at around 14" inches of barrel.
@@Salieri47 : "velocity by the inch"