I like how you incorporate Muay Thai training into your routine. I’ve been doing Muay Thai for 20 years and just started wing Chun for something different and I’m so surprised how brainwashed some of the wing Chun guys are and they won’t try to cross train but I like what your doing. Keep it up!👍
Hello Master Wai-Po, Thank you for this video. It is good to see you still training, teaching and also seeking out new knowledge. I was a student of yours over twenty years ago in London. My listening skills are not what they used to be but I put that down to the fact that there was a lot of technical scientific knowledge being spoken about by yourself, much of which i don’t have understanding of. I would like offer my thoughts after watching and listening. How to strengthen the fascia to increase transfer force? I assume you are talking about the delivery of the power generated by the muscle? That would make the fascia a stretch mechanism, a firing mechanism, would it not? Therefore proper stretching technique would be one method surely? Also…is the fascia connected to the muscle in any way such as hooks? If so do these act like a firing mechanism, sort of like a bow string on a bow, or a compression spring? If stretching is a form of strengthening, or power deliverance, would it be a case of expansion stretching rather than extended stretching? By expansion I mean swelling, such as in breathing. When an animal runs the chest inflates as the animal stretches outward in full flight. Does it then utilizes air via the contraction method when it’s feet hit the ground to produce power to propel it forward? Or is it a case of the animal stores as much air in its lungs that is possible and minimizes air down to what is absolutely required to all other body parts, but enough so that they can perform at their maximum? If the fascia produce 70% of the generated force then surely one way to ensure that it does is to regulate training patterns to within the parameters of the inflow and outflow of the breath, as a starting point. And, is it possible to increase speed and power overtime by training the body to use less air, or use air more efficiently? When running, a constant cadence that is in accordance with stride length seems more efficient and allows for a more smoother running style and increased performance in my experience. This can then be modified for different types of running such as sprinting, even skipping. But the most important part I’ve found is the control of breath which aligns to the cadence to allow the stretch which then delivers the power. It also seems to self regulate over time to a point where you are running but forget you are running….effortless so to speak. That is running however, so I’m not sure if there is a crossover benefit to martial arts and improving power delivery in striking with a foot or hand. Thank you for the opportunity to share my thoughts on this. Colin.
Hi, Fascia transfers approx 70% of force. It’s the muscles contractile that generates the force. For power-speed generally, training methods are elongating tendons in an elastic rebound principle, as in plyometric contraction.
I find when I "pull" the kick into the hip that i recover faster after the kick and I dont over extend in case I miss. Sort of like with the punches if you pull the shoulder or at least keep it from rotating forward. It makes for a shorter kick though. Thank you for sharing your wisdom!
That’s a good point. It’s always a trade off between recovering leg quicker to impact force. For safety and combination, it’s better not to commit too much but for near maximal power, it all the way through. It’s always down to your specific tactic
You can add more power by dropping the knee in a stomping motion. This will allow you to not overextend your kick. But it shouldn't matter if you do, you can just step in to close the distance, which is what you are supposed to do anyway!!
@@tangproductions The tactics are to close the distance, right? If you are staying in midrange, then you are doing it wrong! In traditional, we try to close the distance as QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE! This stops your opponent from multiple chances of his strike, kick or take down of getting through! By using an angled step and a body rotation, which pulls you away from the attack, then you should be able to close the distance safely! Anything else is wrong and goes against the first concept of ECONOMY OF MOTION! Now, do you want to argue that? You modified people don't seem to understand that! The only modified system that does is Wong Shun Leung's system! It is the best one! All others suck because they are incomplete and don't know how to close the distance properly once contact is made! Wong Shun Leung broke the system down to its core components and he realized this! He wasn't taught the proper footwork, so he learned how to use contact to determine the type and direction of the strike through sensitivity. He learned how to close the distance by making and maintaining contact, following in their center of mass, trapping the arm and leg, and finishing the fight quickly.
By not rotating your shoulder, you are losing power! You must also make contact FIRST, to determine the type and direction of the strike! Modified wc guys do not do that! Especially the very crappy Blitzkrieg method, where they come blasting in with punches!! All anyone has to do is sidestep the punch and throw a punch or hook, and you are dead!! THIS IS WHY YOU MUST ALWAYS MAKE CONTACT FIRST!! This controls the arm and structure, and from there, you can do two things. You can push the arm past center, temporarily trapping the arm so you can come in safely, or if you are fighting a boxer, MAKE AND MAINTAIN CONTACT, entering in using the opponent's center of mass (As per Wong Shun Leung), trap the arm and leg (if possible), then finish the fight quickly, using any strikes, kicks, sweeps, or any technique of your choosing. Now, as for kicks, even if you miss, your leg is low enough not to break your balance (this is why wing chun uses low to mid-level kicks), and you can step in to close the distance until you are close enough (2 to 4 feet depending on arm length), to trap the arm and leg and finish the fight. Now about trapping. Trapping is used after contact is made and allows you to sense the type and direction of the strike so you can determine the best response. Most don't use it properly or think it will work but that is only because they do not train it enough or know how to do it properly. But if done properly, it will make your job much easier of finishing off your opponent quickly.
Do U do the shin kick ? When I was in high school a classmate of my who knew Wing Chun demonstrated to me yet, today I almost Never see it use by Anyone. It's a great weapon to use & should be the 1st 2 teach because it's much easier to do
Vertical elbow is but knee is debatable - some school of thought accept its a part of San sau/sik. However, a well read historian maybe able to cast some light on this
Yes, knees and elbows, palm strikes, and in the COMPLETE traditional, locks and throws, wing chun grappling, which uses all ten concepts, not six as in modified wc, sweeps, and also includes weapons training and multiple opponent training as well. In the Grandmaster Cheung system, they also teach pressure point training for healing.
I appreciate the depth of yout methodology but I regret you you do no insist on the more traditional hip-power/stability, mecanical synchronization and penetrating force traditional methods..
That can be in another video, in covering other biomechanical factors and kinetic chain of force transfer in kicking performance. I am not concern whether it’s traditional or not but only interests of analyst.
@@tangproductions Indeed it a whole subject in itself. With this said, it seems that the best tools to learn WC Can be found in WC; soloworking both tan gerk and bong gerk is another good way to achieve the skills that you're showing ! Thanks anyway !
Wow, master, you have CANOES for feet! What size shoe do you wear? Great video! Lots of good training tips! When you are doing the fascia training, you should bring the bag down about a half foot. This will cause you to LIFT the bag, strengthening the muscles of the legs and hips in front, giving you more speed and power. Also, when you kick, drop the back knee, which adds power the same way the punch does, by adding your body weight to the mass, increasing power output! After you kick, you should MOVE FORWARD, placing the leg down, to close the distance! Most do not do this, and consequently stay in mid range, a BIG mistake for any wing chun guy! This allows your opponent multiple opportunities for his strike, kick, or take down to be effective. By closing the distance using an ANGLED step to the outside with a body rotation towards the attack, which not only allows you to see the attack coming, but also allows you to stop the attack, and enter SAFELY to close combat distance (2 to 4 ft, depending on arm length) so you can finish the fight QUICKLY, as per the FIRST CONCEPT, ECONOMY OF MOTION!
@@tangproductions You are using the muscles that help raise the leg, which strengthens them and allows you to get more power through the kick (good for front kicks). You have a lot of very good training points there that really help!
Hmm need to be specific so I can understand what you’re trying to say. Do you mean by lower bag, it’s easier to kick and therefore able to activate the fascia? Your initial comments seems to differ to second comment.
@@tangproductions No, it makes it more difficult because you are lifting more weight with the leg and muscles that lift the leg, which strengthens, then builds endurance, on the muscles that lift the leg forward, giving you a stronger and faster FORWARD kick. It doesn't work the sides or the back of the leg. As I said before though, your exercises are very good and would certainly help with speed and balance. I like the way you work the ankles, which are the key here. Since those muscles are smaller than the other muscles on top, building those muscles build stability in the stance especially when they are off-balance. This allows them to maintain balance and structure. It also produces a much stronger kick. Thanks!!
mightymeatmonsta clearly you don’t know what you are talking about. As I said before, I’m happy to hear anything with substance not ego rubbish opinions
Please cover wing chun chain kicks and chi gerk leg techniques Sifu Tang. Thank you.
I like how you incorporate Muay Thai training into your routine. I’ve been doing Muay Thai for 20 years and just started wing Chun for something different and I’m so surprised how brainwashed some of the wing Chun guys are and they won’t try to cross train but I like what your doing. Keep it up!👍
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Really useful video, sifu. You've got me practicing again! 🙏🏼
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your wc looks more natural , thnx sifu!
Hello Master Wai-Po,
Thank you for this video. It is good to see you still training, teaching and also seeking out new knowledge. I was a student of yours over twenty years ago in London.
My listening skills are not what they used to be but I put that down to the fact that there was a lot of technical scientific knowledge being spoken about by yourself, much of which i don’t have understanding of.
I would like offer my thoughts after watching and listening.
How to strengthen the fascia to increase transfer force? I assume you are talking about the delivery of the power generated by the muscle?
That would make the fascia a stretch mechanism, a firing mechanism, would it not? Therefore proper stretching technique would be one method surely? Also…is the fascia connected to the muscle in any way such as hooks? If so do these act like a firing mechanism, sort of like a bow string on a bow, or a compression spring?
If stretching is a form of strengthening, or power deliverance, would it be a case of expansion stretching rather than extended stretching?
By expansion I mean swelling, such as in breathing. When an animal runs the chest inflates as the animal stretches outward in full flight. Does it then utilizes air via the contraction method when it’s feet hit the ground to produce power to propel it forward? Or is it a case of the animal stores as much air in its lungs that is possible and minimizes air down to what is absolutely required to all other body parts, but enough so that they can perform at their maximum?
If the fascia produce 70% of the generated force then surely one way to ensure that it does is to regulate training patterns to within the parameters of the inflow and outflow of the breath, as a starting point. And, is it possible to increase speed and power overtime by training the body to use less air, or use air more efficiently?
When running, a constant cadence that is in accordance with stride length seems more efficient and allows for a more smoother running style and increased performance in my experience. This can then be modified for different types of running such as sprinting, even skipping. But the most important part I’ve found is the control of breath which aligns to the cadence to allow the stretch which then delivers the power. It also seems to self regulate over time to a point where you are running but forget you are running….effortless so to speak.
That is running however, so I’m not sure if there is a crossover benefit to martial arts and improving power delivery in striking with a foot or hand.
Thank you for the opportunity to share my thoughts on this.
Colin.
Hi, Fascia transfers approx 70% of force. It’s the muscles contractile that generates the force. For power-speed generally, training methods are elongating tendons in an elastic rebound principle, as in plyometric contraction.
Nice video Sifu
Thanks
I find when I "pull" the kick into the hip that i recover faster after the kick and I dont over extend in case I miss. Sort of like with the punches if you pull the shoulder or at least keep it from rotating forward. It makes for a shorter kick though. Thank you for sharing your wisdom!
That’s a good point. It’s always a trade off between recovering leg quicker to impact force. For safety and combination, it’s better not to commit too much but for near maximal power, it all the way through. It’s always down to your specific tactic
You can add more power by dropping the knee in a stomping motion. This will allow you to not overextend your kick. But it shouldn't matter if you do, you can just step in to close the distance, which is what you are supposed to do anyway!!
mightymeatmonsta it is subject to the angle of the target and subsequent tactics thereafter
@@tangproductions The tactics are to close the distance, right? If you are staying in midrange, then you are doing it wrong! In traditional, we try to close the distance as QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE! This stops your opponent from multiple chances of his strike, kick or take down of getting through! By using an angled step and a body rotation, which pulls you away from the attack, then you should be able to close the distance safely! Anything else is wrong and goes against the first concept of ECONOMY OF MOTION! Now, do you want to argue that? You modified people don't seem to understand that! The only modified system that does is Wong Shun Leung's system! It is the best one! All others suck because they are incomplete and don't know how to close the distance properly once contact is made! Wong Shun Leung broke the system down to its core components and he realized this! He wasn't taught the proper footwork, so he learned how to use contact to determine the type and direction of the strike through sensitivity. He learned how to close the distance by making and maintaining contact, following in their center of mass, trapping the arm and leg, and finishing the fight quickly.
By not rotating your shoulder, you are losing power! You must also make contact FIRST, to determine the type and direction of the strike! Modified wc guys do not do that! Especially the very crappy Blitzkrieg method, where they come blasting in with punches!! All anyone has to do is sidestep the punch and throw a punch or hook, and you are dead!! THIS IS WHY YOU MUST ALWAYS MAKE CONTACT FIRST!! This controls the arm and structure, and from there, you can do two things. You can push the arm past center, temporarily trapping the arm so you can come in safely, or if you are fighting a boxer, MAKE AND MAINTAIN CONTACT, entering in using the opponent's center of mass (As per Wong Shun Leung), trap the arm and leg (if possible), then finish the fight quickly, using any strikes, kicks, sweeps, or any technique of your choosing. Now, as for kicks, even if you miss, your leg is low enough not to break your balance (this is why wing chun uses low to mid-level kicks), and you can step in to close the distance until you are close enough (2 to 4 feet depending on arm length), to trap the arm and leg and finish the fight. Now about trapping. Trapping is used after contact is made and allows you to sense the type and direction of the strike so you can determine the best response. Most don't use it properly or think it will work but that is only because they do not train it enough or know how to do it properly. But if done properly, it will make your job much easier of finishing off your opponent quickly.
Do U do the shin kick ? When I was in high school a classmate of my who knew Wing Chun demonstrated to me yet, today I almost Never see it use by Anyone. It's a great weapon to use & should be the 1st 2 teach because it's much easier to do
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Hi does wing chun have knee and vertical elbow strikes, i really want to know.
Vertical elbow is but knee is debatable - some school of thought accept its a part of San sau/sik. However, a well read historian maybe able to cast some light on this
Vertical elbow is yes
Yes, knees and elbows, palm strikes, and in the COMPLETE traditional, locks and throws, wing chun grappling, which uses all ten concepts, not six as in modified wc, sweeps, and also includes weapons training and multiple opponent training as well. In the Grandmaster Cheung system, they also teach pressure point training for healing.
I appreciate the depth of yout methodology but I regret you you do no insist on the more traditional hip-power/stability, mecanical synchronization and penetrating force traditional methods..
That can be in another video, in covering other biomechanical factors and kinetic chain of force transfer in kicking performance. I am not concern whether it’s traditional or not but only interests of analyst.
@@tangproductions Indeed it a whole subject in itself. With this said, it seems that the best tools to learn WC Can be found in WC; soloworking both tan gerk and bong gerk is another good way to achieve the skills that you're showing ! Thanks anyway !
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Wow, master, you have CANOES for feet! What size shoe do you wear? Great video! Lots of good training tips! When you are doing the fascia training, you should bring the bag down about a half foot. This will cause you to LIFT the bag, strengthening the muscles of the legs and hips in front, giving you more speed and power. Also, when you kick, drop the back knee, which adds power the same way the punch does, by adding your body weight to the mass, increasing power output! After you kick, you should MOVE FORWARD, placing the leg down, to close the distance! Most do not do this, and consequently stay in mid range, a BIG mistake for any wing chun guy! This allows your opponent multiple opportunities for his strike, kick, or take down to be effective. By closing the distance using an ANGLED step to the outside with a body rotation towards the attack, which not only allows you to see the attack coming, but also allows you to stop the attack, and enter SAFELY to close combat distance (2 to 4 ft, depending on arm length) so you can finish the fight QUICKLY, as per the FIRST CONCEPT, ECONOMY OF MOTION!
mightymeatmonsta Interesting. what is the bio mechanical energy synergy of the transfer of force when the bag is lowered by half a foot?
@@tangproductions You are using the muscles that help raise the leg, which strengthens them and allows you to get more power through the kick (good for front kicks). You have a lot of very good training points there that really help!
Hmm need to be specific so I can understand what you’re trying to say. Do you mean by lower bag, it’s easier to kick and therefore able to activate the fascia? Your initial comments seems to differ to second comment.
@@tangproductions No, it makes it more difficult because you are lifting more weight with the leg and muscles that lift the leg, which strengthens, then builds endurance, on the muscles that lift the leg forward, giving you a stronger and faster FORWARD kick. It doesn't work the sides or the back of the leg. As I said before though, your exercises are very good and would certainly help with speed and balance. I like the way you work the ankles, which are the key here. Since those muscles are smaller than the other muscles on top, building those muscles build stability in the stance especially when they are off-balance. This allows them to maintain balance and structure. It also produces a much stronger kick. Thanks!!
mightymeatmonsta clearly you don’t know what you are talking about. As I said before, I’m happy to hear anything with substance not ego rubbish opinions
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