i have a 23 mto7 with a hord power intake and M4 full exhaust no baffle and i had a dyno jet tune before i could barely tell a difference but then i caved and sent my ECU in to 2WDW and its soooo much better now before you could tell the tune wasn't right thanks man!
I might get the tst in the future but 600 bucks for just a couple hp more than i have now... it's a little hard to justify but I'm definitely considering it
In your unbiased opinion , is the tst worth the money for the difference in what it picks up? I have the arrow works exhaust, air box mod, and you already flashed my ecu. This would be pretty much the last performance mod I can do without doing a cam swap or something if they come out.
I know it will be a PITA but can you make a tune for the Vance & Hines cams for this? Even with the airboxes these dont unlock all the top end, these are easily 100-110WHP motors
I am curious about those too. While these are already nice gains, I want the best chance to keep up to the bigger bikes in my group. I think my bike will stay stock until I can find a recipe that will at least break the 100hp mark.
With aftermarket cams comes adjustable cam timing, and therefore an infinite possibility of airflow changes through the engine with different intake and exhaust cam timing. When you start modifying engine internals with adjustable components, you need custom dyno tuning.
One question: Do the velocity stacks need to be a smooth transfer to the throttle bodies? Or can the velocity stacks also slide over the throttle bodies, creating a lip/ridge? I found some velocity stacks but they dont make a smooth transfer as they slide over the throttle bodies, company claims it makes more peak power, but I doubt it as it makes more of a air obstruction.....
Safe to assume the same improvements would be made for the V-Strom 800? I haven't seen any difference in airbox design or part numbers between the 8S/8R and DL, but not sure if there's any other significant differences in the powertrain, other than exhaust system design.
I believe there is a good size market for a Honda Rebel 1100 twitchy throttle fix, just an ECM fix to get rid of the twitchiness. I know I would loan my bike for that fix if I was not in Germany. Being in Germany I still need EU Euro 5 emissions standards met however the twitchiness needs to go if possible.
wait...? you're saying a cp2 walks away from one of these?? i've done pulls with both R7 and MT07 before and my bone stock 8s ran away without a problem and im 200 pounds lol
Pay closer attention. He said "built Yamaha R7's". That means all the usual tuning and bolt-ons, plus Hordpower airbox. That's about 78 wheel HP. Add cams, bored throttlebodies, maybe a 3-angle valve job, bump compression a bit, now you're looking at another 10-12 hp.
@@exothermal.sprocket BUILT CP2 with head work , pistons and all the bolt-ons are actually over 100WHP believe it or not. so I can see why they are walking pass the 8s .
@@Dzver000 You may get top end power, but with the lack of relative displacement, the torque will always be less, making them more difficult to ride quickly.
@@exothermal.sprocket true , but with 100+whp and low weight of those race prepared R7/MT-07 i dont think they are lacking torque. naturally the CP2 is know to be torquey engine anyhow.
In short, yes. You need runner length to build intake velocity. Filters right onto TBs is a terrible idea on virtually every modern fuel injected engine.
@@2wheeldynoworks Thanks. What about having a good length runner onto the TB then put a filter on the runner. Each runner will have its own filter. Will that work better than having an airbox?
Love seeing all the GSX8 content 💪🤘
Nice testing as always Nate!! Thanks!!!
Great video again. Your explanation of the dyno graph is superb.
I appreciate all the hard work you do!
i have a 23 mto7 with a hord power intake and M4 full exhaust no baffle and i had a dyno jet tune before i could barely tell a difference but then i caved and sent my ECU in to 2WDW and its soooo much better now before you could tell the tune wasn't right thanks man!
Can’t wait to get an exhaust and be able to send my ECU over to you guys! Love the videos! Stoked on how the numbers keep going up on this bike!
I put the arrow works on mine and sent my ecu to nate and I will say it's definitely worth it
Great video, great company, great job!
Thanks for the info!
Then watch, next year comes the GSXS 8RR: ram air, fully adjustable suspension, radial brake master, etc.... 😉
@2wheeldynoworks There's a version 2 of the Turn13 AirBox, Will there be a tune for that?
I might get the tst in the future but 600 bucks for just a couple hp more than i have now... it's a little hard to justify but I'm definitely considering it
Top job.
In your unbiased opinion , is the tst worth the money for the difference in what it picks up? I have the arrow works exhaust, air box mod, and you already flashed my ecu. This would be pretty much the last performance mod I can do without doing a cam swap or something if they come out.
I know it will be a PITA but can you make a tune for the Vance & Hines cams for this? Even with the airboxes these dont unlock all the top end, these are easily 100-110WHP motors
I am curious about those too. While these are already nice gains, I want the best chance to keep up to the bigger bikes in my group. I think my bike will stay stock until I can find a recipe that will at least break the 100hp mark.
With aftermarket cams comes adjustable cam timing, and therefore an infinite possibility of airflow changes through the engine with different intake and exhaust cam timing. When you start modifying engine internals with adjustable components, you need custom dyno tuning.
Anxiously waiting for 2024 790 Duke content 😅
Second time asking for my 2019 KTM 1290 SAS ECU flash ?
One question: Do the velocity stacks need to be a smooth transfer to the throttle bodies? Or can the velocity stacks also slide over the throttle bodies, creating a lip/ridge? I found some velocity stacks but they dont make a smooth transfer as they slide over the throttle bodies, company claims it makes more peak power, but I doubt it as it makes more of a air obstruction.....
Safe to assume the same improvements would be made for the V-Strom 800? I haven't seen any difference in airbox design or part numbers between the 8S/8R and DL, but not sure if there's any other significant differences in the powertrain, other than exhaust system design.
Yup, it's all identical.
Okay thanks for the info.
Why not manipulate the tune at 6k to smooth that hump a little on the turn 13 box? Keep the power up top and the chassis happy?
Is this power on a wheel? Or calculated on the engine?
Have you guys thought about doing a tune for a 800nk
Y’all got tunes for this bike with the Toce exhaust?
Will you be tuning an Aprilia tuono v4 and RS v4 anytime soon? Right now only gabro is available and it’s expensive/ harder to get in North America.
I believe there is a good size market for a Honda Rebel 1100 twitchy throttle fix, just an ECM fix to get rid of the twitchiness. I know I would loan my bike for that fix if I was not in Germany. Being in Germany I still need EU Euro 5 emissions standards met however the twitchiness needs to go if possible.
Do we need to buy a 600 dollar TST airbox to accomplish the 20 hp gain youre talking about?
How close would m4 + tune + Box lid and v-stacks get? 🤟
That's literally the comparison graph we showed in the video. More midrange, but less top end.
Nice. Can you guys tested the tst worx airbox for the ninja 400/500s to see if it's worth lol
We did. We just didn't make a video for it. Email us at support@2wheeldynoworks.com and we can share a graph.
wait...? you're saying a cp2 walks away from one of these?? i've done pulls with both R7 and MT07 before and my bone stock 8s ran away without a problem and im 200 pounds lol
he said BUILT cp2.
Pay closer attention. He said "built Yamaha R7's". That means all the usual tuning and bolt-ons, plus Hordpower airbox. That's about 78 wheel HP. Add cams, bored throttlebodies, maybe a 3-angle valve job, bump compression a bit, now you're looking at another 10-12 hp.
@@exothermal.sprocket BUILT CP2 with head work , pistons and all the bolt-ons are actually over 100WHP believe it or not. so I can see why they are walking pass the 8s .
@@Dzver000 You may get top end power, but with the lack of relative displacement, the torque will always be less, making them more difficult to ride quickly.
@@exothermal.sprocket true , but with 100+whp and low weight of those race prepared R7/MT-07 i dont think they are lacking torque. naturally the CP2 is know to be torquey engine anyhow.
Why std correction? Sae is the more realistic one ,std rais the power and torque figure
Do we really need that big airbox? Can't we just put a filter directly on the mouth of the throttle bodies?
In short, yes. You need runner length to build intake velocity. Filters right onto TBs is a terrible idea on virtually every modern fuel injected engine.
@@2wheeldynoworks Thanks. What about having a good length runner onto the TB then put a filter on the runner. Each runner will have its own filter. Will that work better than having an airbox?