the fact that he made atif switch from akuma to leo is really an a sick achievement even arslan can't keep up with atif akuma and how scary he is well played SM Kazuya mains proud of u
Butt came a long way he used to choke alot in high tension tournament matches and now look at him all calm and collected ... also shaved Butt is too strong
untill they get 50/50 to death kekw nah for real though watching cool combo's from mishimas are awsome but when they start playing coin flipper its gets boring imo
@@captaincuchulain5513Ikr, was saying this before. He got such strong moves and doesn;t need to think too hard. I play Kaz but still say so... Imagine having a one button death unblockable? Would it be hard to play that character cos of their limited moveset? No... Well Kaz plays slightly like that so no, having few moves doesn't make him weak, just means we get to the point an learn what matters.... A 50/5 should all work the same way and having a sick 50/50 means he should probably always play sick as long as you defend and get some frames spare to attack
@@TheTyroofToriyamanah its a very risky 5050, that's the problem. It is strong yes but equally risky. Kazuya can be a scrub stomper because people dont sidestep, this is where most of the hate comes from. Once you get to people who know to sidestep left its a whole different ballgame. No meme strings and lacking a lot of basic tools. He is still mid high tier because of electric and the 5050
Sergie also showed very little knowledge of Leo in that set. Kept doing the wrong punish when he got a block on the lows and only did something to beat b1,4 once in 3 games. And Atif really exploited that.
@@shamms9249 He has a known history to defend kazuya all the time, so him doing this is even more annoying. And he pretty much only does this with kazuya. I'm a fan but it gets really annoying.
@@shamms9249nah he's actually right about it imo. made me cringe a bit too in the beginning when tmm downplayed kazuya 98489th time once again. of course kazuya is hilariously weak but man you don't need to remind us about it every single fucking time right
Leo mains can't catch a break. Before it was like 'why do you play Leo? He's so mid' and now it's like 'oh, you play Leo. So you like cheap characters.' Like, man I just like the character. Gimme a break
tbf leo has been cheap imo lol idk why people were looking at a character with built in defense and evasion in half the moveset and calling him mid😂 goofy take imo
@@sakashimayokoshimahapofusagari were you Were you paying attention to Tekken last season? Also most Tekken characters have built in evasion in half their moves, that's not really special.
I tried some of sergie's combos. The B1 into B2,1 is actually better for wall carry than 3,1,4 and easier than doing dash jabs. Its not fancy its optimal
Chat had a point here when kaz did the 4x hellsweep. funnily he did it RIGHT after tmm said its so easily to counter with just sidestep left. yet atif didnt do it. why?
I love very much that MainMan knows 🇻🇪Venezuela has a strong Tekken scene as I'm from there but that's 🇵🇪Perú's flag 😭😭😭 I know he then corrects it but I'm just starting the video and had to leave this comment
8:22 This is where Sergie made mistake lol. If PAK players take off their headphone, you better cover up your stick sound or pressing more fake buttons. PAK players are unstoppable if they can hear your stick sound.
Poor results online, poor results in tournaments, clunky to play What are the arguments for him being easy To be clear I think TMM downplays his character but cmon lad
well the lack of panic moves and tools has no real to enforce solid pressure and super weak to SSL how ever though what he does have is an electric great but risky 50/50 good checks great damage a db4 that hits grounded also good punishment his oki is pretty braindead aswell now the biggest issue with kaz is that for most of his stuff to start you need to either make them respect the coin flipping or be fundamentally strong with the movement and punishment/whiff punishment that being said the difficulty of kaz is not as hard as people think with practice and application anyone can do well with the character just need some execution with the electrics
@@steponmeplease6217 I wouldn't say its incomplete, its a fine line with kaz, give him a little bit too much and he becomes crazy overpowered like in previous games. The lack of generic tools definitely makes him clunky though. And the way his mist step and wavedash interact with his neutral moves can be very complicated and requires a lot of execution. Crouch cancelling and rapid forward inputs to do even basic things that other characters can do with a single button.
i mean say that about every player that plays s tier picks like feng leo akuma geese zafina, so basically knee joka chikurin arslan and many more are carried? nah i think you are just projecting your hate on the character rather than accepting that these players are insane at the game
@@captaincuchulain5513 I played against Joka during tag 2, he used Feng even in that game, I wouldn't say Joka uses Feng only cause he's top tier I like players like Ulsan who stick to their guns no matter what, you do yours and support ppl who only use top tiers, good for you then
@@KazuyaKai923And there is Arsalan for you if he know that character then he go for that like he's now playing noctis i hate this thing about arsalan hope he understands this as well that tierlist is not everything.
@@HaseebKhan-kt3qe exactly, arslan dropped kazumi after nerfs.. now uses zaf, kuni, noctis etc I mean he's successful and obviously he made a good decision from that point of view but I wouldn't be able to use characters I don't have fun with.. Without passion for my characters there's no will to play
Damn I never realized how overwhelming Leo is even in high play. Super annoying and boring character, always one of my least favs. Hopefully they make Leo more interesting in Tekken 8 somehow.
@@VULCAN1135 how boring of a person do you have to be for THIS to be the interesting thing about you lol. Leo is just boring cause they do nothing cool with the character, if bamco actually paid him some attnetion and gave some decent story or smthing he'd be fine. But to point out this stupid thing that doesnt matter in any way as intersting is dumb.
Give kazuya better lows and better mids that prevent people from side stepping him and problem solved 🤬 I don’t understand what’s so hard about it I don’t understand Bamco 😢
@@xravenx24feWS1+2 is good if you let kazuya wavedash or after knockdowns but it isn't great when opponents are in his face cause it takes frames to duck and use WS moves.. opponents can just use step into block and neutralise it.. Devil Jin bf2 will always be better than Kazuya's ws1+2
This character have a win condition, you cant give him good pokes for example because he can easily put his 50/50 after, and you can't make him not linear because the 50/50 is too good and dumb, and even better you have a 14 launching high thats +5 on block, very good block punish kit, and add to all of that HIGH DAMAGE, most of the time in other games a 50/50 character doesnt do damage in combos as much as kazuya. Stop with the downplay, this character is very strong he doesnt need anything, in fact he have things that needs to be nerfed, for example db4 hitting grounded opponents
We literally see one of the best players in the world BLATANTLY NOT COUNTERING KAZUYA. Maybe its not as easy as tmm says? Unless tmm is better than atif lmao. Kazuya has a low winrate because he literally has the highest pickrate in the game. My god, you kazuya fans are the biggest cringe lords in the community
I would like to ask why Sergie, being one of the best kazuyas, uses such poor combos, when there are combos that give him better wall carry and damage? I don't get it.
I think is because of character expresion, he wants the people to recognize when he is using Kazuya instead of being the kazuya n355 who does the same bnb's all the people do
@@SrKimori you are probably not a kazuya player, the combo he was doing always doing was : Launcher(electric, ff2, ws2,etc.), 3,1,4 and then hell lancer, one of the most generic combos of kazuya, most of the time perfomed by low rank kazuyas. so if you are talking about a combo everyone does, you are the wrong, because the combo he did most ot the time is the most generic shitty combo of kazuya
all of a sudden, you mean since the patch that added the new mechanics and buffed Leo, which gave him more attention and ppl realized how strong he actually is, especially with the buffs he got
He didn't prove anything lol there are far better kaz's out there. Specially the one whom knee accused of cheating, kaz is not for everyone specially in tournaments, But come on that's Pakistan and that's g.o.a.t player period. 🧏🏻♂️
I am just saying all characters are equal before balance changes. Balance changes make them bad. Even Kazuya become unstable. Maybe balance changes unbalancing every characters. I am not in favor of sergie master. Every player has right.
the fact that he made atif switch from akuma to leo is really an a sick achievement
even arslan can't keep up with atif akuma and how scary he is
well played SM
Kazuya mains proud of u
Butt came a long way he used to choke alot in high tension tournament matches and now look at him all calm and collected ... also shaved Butt is too strong
Shaved butt Im weak 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Shaved Butt 😂😂
Man you commented just so you could make this joke didn’t you? I’m not complaining tho lmao
I hate balance changes. It destroys my gaming experience. I want every characters needs to op. That's it problem solved.
That last sentence could be interpreted in an entirely different way lmao
Every win from someone who plays a Mishima is so satisfying
untill they get 50/50 to death kekw nah for real though watching cool combo's from mishimas are awsome but when they start playing coin flipper its gets boring imo
Can we just appreciate this kazuya for actually doing well in a tournament on an extremely hard character.
i think we might be overrating how hard kaz actually is, but in all fairness though that kaz player played super well good job to him
@@captaincuchulain5513Ikr, was saying this before. He got such strong moves and doesn;t need to think too hard. I play Kaz but still say so...
Imagine having a one button death unblockable? Would it be hard to play that character cos of their limited moveset? No... Well Kaz plays slightly like that so no, having few moves doesn't make him weak, just means we get to the point an learn what matters....
A 50/5 should all work the same way and having a sick 50/50 means he should probably always play sick as long as you defend and get some frames spare to attack
Masku
@@TheTyroofToriyamanah its a very risky 5050, that's the problem. It is strong yes but equally risky. Kazuya can be a scrub stomper because people dont sidestep, this is where most of the hate comes from. Once you get to people who know to sidestep left its a whole different ballgame. No meme strings and lacking a lot of basic tools. He is still mid high tier because of electric and the 5050
@@tongpoo8985 the "just sidestep bro" argument died when tracking electrics happened
Sergie also showed very little knowledge of Leo in that set. Kept doing the wrong punish when he got a block on the lows and only did something to beat b1,4 once in 3 games. And Atif really exploited that.
4:38 shut up💀💀
His constant efforts to remind people how shit Kazuya is cringe so hard
i mean he is pretty bad, and this is a feat, and it’s all about david and goliath here, so i mean it’s kinda the point of the video
@@shamms9249 He has a known history to defend kazuya all the time, so him doing this is even more annoying. And he pretty much only does this with kazuya. I'm a fan but it gets really annoying.
@@shamms9249nah he's actually right about it imo. made me cringe a bit too in the beginning when tmm downplayed kazuya 98489th time once again. of course kazuya is hilariously weak but man you don't need to remind us about it every single fucking time right
It's so weird how the 0.01% top players can't seem to exploit kazuya's HUGE weakness just by side stepping left, makes you wonder
Can't just SS left everything, you'll get caught moving and eat some damage, and then you're out of advantage
DW it's common for people to downplay their mains and TMM is no exception.
@@Antics456 Whaaaat? No waaaay you can sidestep left and kazuya is completely useless definitely for sure 😀
@@santaclawz4431wdym, highest level shows you how a top kazuya player can make up that weakness by making his homing dangerous.
Yeah I’m sure you yourself could beat Sergei by simply sidestepping left
Leo mains can't catch a break. Before it was like 'why do you play Leo? He's so mid' and now it's like 'oh, you play Leo. So you like cheap characters.' Like, man I just like the character. Gimme a break
tbf leo has been cheap imo lol idk why people were looking at a character with built in defense and evasion in half the moveset and calling him mid😂 goofy take imo
@@sakashimayokoshimahapofusagari were you
Were you paying attention to Tekken last season? Also most Tekken characters have built in evasion in half their moves, that's not really special.
How can you not root for Kazuya? 💚 Tournament Kazuya players deserves our outmost respect.
Cause 😂all he do is spam
@@mrsaif4135 you good?
@@mrsaif4135 you right lol 🤣
i just wished his combo's was any way near optimal he would of won the set if had been better in that regard
Still a braindead 50/50 character
I tried some of sergie's combos. The B1 into B2,1 is actually better for wall carry than 3,1,4 and easier than doing dash jabs. Its not fancy its optimal
Love seeing Kazuya lose. Thanks for this.
50/50 has traumatized this poor soul. kazuya on top forever and always😂👋🏽 we dont like carry characters around here
I watched this match yesterday and thought it would be sick if TMM did a commentary video and here we are hahhahha.
Ready to SEE LEO IN T8!!
Chat had a point here when kaz did the 4x hellsweep. funnily he did it RIGHT after tmm said its so easily to counter with just sidestep left. yet atif didnt do it. why?
Because atif is a fraud that gets carried by akuma
how did you comment 6 hours ago? this video posted 4 minutes ago and it doesn't have a thumbnail wtf
@wesly1233 he's probably a channel member, tmm might allow channel members to see videos early
Sergio spams a lot of ws3 which is homing to set up the hellsweep.
It's easier said than done, you don't think about it in the moment
Service is a Beast 🙌🏾
i hate when kazuya players always downplay thier main,
Shut up female character player
I love very much that MainMan knows 🇻🇪Venezuela has a strong Tekken scene as I'm from there but that's 🇵🇪Perú's flag 😭😭😭
I know he then corrects it but I'm just starting the video and had to leave this comment
peruvian players are really masters of being underrated but amazing. NeNe's kazuya is fantastic, and this dude is incredible.
Next time Sergei kaxuya won't be able to do anything atif's akuma.
Shaved Butt is really good
Leo is so busted beyond belief in S4
I belive you forgot the thumbnail for the video btw TMM
Bruh this dude with kazuya lol its silly
Sergie is from peru yes not venezuela jajajaa
8:22 This is where Sergie made mistake lol. If PAK players take off their headphone, you better cover up your stick sound or pressing more fake buttons. PAK players are unstoppable if they can hear your stick sound.
Nice thumbnail
11:23 xddddd
I'm really annoyed playing against Leo, I'm doing really well but once I got clipped by a launcher to wall GGs to me.
He can pick Maven, Bob, Jack, Steve, Feng, Jin, Marduk(used it vs S.Akouma), DJ, Hei, Lei, and many other characters. The guy is a joke
Why is Kazuya one of the hardest ?
because mainman plays him, isnt it clear?
Poor results online, poor results in tournaments, clunky to play
What are the arguments for him being easy
To be clear I think TMM downplays his character but cmon lad
well the lack of panic moves and tools has no real to enforce solid pressure and super weak to SSL how ever though what he does have is an electric great but risky 50/50 good checks great damage a db4 that hits grounded also good punishment his oki is pretty braindead aswell now the biggest issue with kaz is that for most of his stuff to start you need to either make them respect the coin flipping or be fundamentally strong with the movement and punishment/whiff punishment that being said the difficulty of kaz is not as hard as people think with practice and application anyone can do well with the character just need some execution with the electrics
@@aren5900pick kazuya and prove he's easy then
@@steponmeplease6217 I wouldn't say its incomplete, its a fine line with kaz, give him a little bit too much and he becomes crazy overpowered like in previous games. The lack of generic tools definitely makes him clunky though. And the way his mist step and wavedash interact with his neutral moves can be very complicated and requires a lot of execution. Crouch cancelling and rapid forward inputs to do even basic things that other characters can do with a single button.
Not gonna lie this video would be better with less talking fr I mean it’s ok reaction just try not over doing it
Stop the goatie. Please. Right now.
MASKU
Leo players are carried.. that's it
lmaoooooo
i mean say that about every player that plays s tier picks like feng leo akuma geese zafina, so basically knee joka chikurin arslan and many more are carried? nah i think you are just projecting your hate on the character rather than accepting that these players are insane at the game
@@captaincuchulain5513 I played against Joka during tag 2, he used Feng even in that game, I wouldn't say Joka uses Feng only cause he's top tier
I like players like Ulsan who stick to their guns no matter what, you do yours and support ppl who only use top tiers, good for you then
@@KazuyaKai923And there is Arsalan for you if he know that character then he go for that like he's now playing noctis i hate this thing about arsalan hope he understands this as well that tierlist is not everything.
@@HaseebKhan-kt3qe exactly, arslan dropped kazumi after nerfs.. now uses zaf, kuni, noctis etc
I mean he's successful and obviously he made a good decision from that point of view but I wouldn't be able to use characters I don't have fun with..
Without passion for my characters there's no will to play
Damn I never realized how overwhelming Leo is even in high play. Super annoying and boring character, always one of my least favs. Hopefully they make Leo more interesting in Tekken 8 somehow.
Leo is trans, that's not boring at all
@@VULCAN1135gameplay > penis/vagina
@@VULCAN1135there is more to a character than what's in their pants
@@VULCAN1135 how boring of a person do you have to be for THIS to be the interesting thing about you lol. Leo is just boring cause they do nothing cool with the character, if bamco actually paid him some attnetion and gave some decent story or smthing he'd be fine. But to point out this stupid thing that doesnt matter in any way as intersting is dumb.
@@legendofsonic3979 trolled
Give kazuya better lows and better mids that prevent people from side stepping him and problem solved 🤬 I don’t understand what’s so hard about it I don’t understand Bamco 😢
Dude they gave Kaz ws1+2 which is dumb af just to do that
@@xravenx24feWS1+2 is good if you let kazuya wavedash or after knockdowns but it isn't great when opponents are in his face cause it takes frames to duck and use WS moves.. opponents can just use step into block and neutralise it..
Devil Jin bf2 will always be better than Kazuya's ws1+2
This character have a win condition, you cant give him good pokes for example because he can easily put his 50/50 after, and you can't make him not linear because the 50/50 is too good and dumb, and even better you have a 14 launching high thats +5 on block, very good block punish kit, and add to all of that HIGH DAMAGE, most of the time in other games a 50/50 character doesnt do damage in combos as much as kazuya.
Stop with the downplay, this character is very strong he doesnt need anything, in fact he have things that needs to be nerfed, for example db4 hitting grounded opponents
@@SrKimori he isn't good and you can't prove it neither... Use him and you would get wrecked
@@SrKimori dude he struggles at high level and tournaments stop it already he needs help seriously his designs has many flaws 🤦🏽♀️
We literally see one of the best players in the world BLATANTLY NOT COUNTERING KAZUYA. Maybe its not as easy as tmm says? Unless tmm is better than atif lmao. Kazuya has a low winrate because he literally has the highest pickrate in the game. My god, you kazuya fans are the biggest cringe lords in the community
youre so ignorant to high-level play and it's kind of sad. its like you dont understand the concept of timing or homing moves😂 please get better
Pak no 1
He was well prepared for akuma but not for leo and he smelled that butt.
😂👍
I would like to ask why Sergie, being one of the best kazuyas, uses such poor combos, when there are combos that give him better wall carry and damage? I don't get it.
Consistency over more damage. He prob labs matchups more than combos
I think is because of character expresion, he wants the people to recognize when he is using Kazuya instead of being the kazuya n355 who does the same bnb's all the people do
The answer is input lag on PS4 and bad set-up, I talked to ppl from IESF
Bcz Atif probably knows those moves and is prepared to counter them but when he uses moves that Atif don't expect suddenly he isn't sure
@@SrKimori you are probably not a kazuya player, the combo he was doing always doing was :
Launcher(electric, ff2, ws2,etc.), 3,1,4 and then hell lancer, one of the most generic combos of kazuya, most of the time perfomed by low rank kazuyas.
so if you are talking about a combo everyone does, you are the wrong, because the combo he did most ot the time is the most generic shitty combo of kazuya
Kazuya mains still crying because of ATIF'S DOMINANCE.
Sergie himself use Zafina as his 2nd main in tournament though. I guess he's not so much of a character loyalist like Anakin and lmyourfather.
He always plays kazuya in the big matches even though it puts him at a huge disadvantage, still deserves respect
@@kingenfuukenI've seen Sergei using zafina in big matches tho
That's such a funny combo of characters to main. It's like if a master swordsman said fuck it and brought an AR-15 to battle instead.
@@Its_PizzaTimeyeah lmfao
All of a sudden leo has no weaknesses, might aswell put them in s+ tier lmao. Leo is super fun to play i don't know what yall drinking smh
Is not all of a sudden.
"all of a sudden" lol
all of a sudden, you mean since the patch that added the new mechanics and buffed Leo, which gave him more attention and ppl realized how strong he actually is, especially with the buffs he got
Being linear in most of her key moves count as a weakness(?
@@TK--ce6hp Leo was considered one of the most versatile characters even during tag 2..
Really dislike the whole intro clip thing. Gets me auto skipping the first 20 secs every time
The best Heihachi is Aqeel Zahoor
Yeah if you want to win tournaments you just cant play Kazuya thats sad
Akuma and Leo... So cheap.
He didn't prove anything lol there are far better kaz's out there. Specially the one whom knee accused of cheating, kaz is not for everyone specially in tournaments,
But come on that's Pakistan and that's g.o.a.t player period.
🧏🏻♂️
The Kazuya you’re thinking of is called Devil. I would still argue Knee Choksae and CDP outscale him at the moment.
@@G-R-IE-IE-D BoA Luvb is better
Stop roasting pakistani players
Sergie Master is a great player but these combos are just stupid. do that shit in casuals, you are ruining your career.
I am just saying all characters are equal before balance changes. Balance changes make them bad. Even Kazuya become unstable. Maybe balance changes unbalancing every characters. I am not in favor of sergie master. Every player has right.
Bro. AK should've used Kazuya or any Mishima in the finals. He could've beaten Atif.