Thomas Sowell - Preferential Policies (Full Interview)
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2015
- CSPAN
JUNE 10, 1990
Book Discussion on Preferential Policies
Sowell discussed his book Preferential Policies: An International Perspective, published by William Morrow and Company. ... Sowell's analysis includes plans that have been implemented in developed and under-developed countries for minority and majority segments of the population. ... Sowell asserts that these problems occur because the programs are designed for political expediency rather than long-term societal change.
11:00 Pro Life vs Pro Choice meeting
14:00 Marxian Economics
23:00 How Affirmative Action is artificially turning minorities into failures.
24:58 Why write? To better race?
26:00 Having your word distorted
28:15 Racial divisions, what is stoking flame?
32:21 When students can’t keep up you need teachers that can’t keep up
32:00 Hire “ideologically” black people
37:30 Biased against politics
38:00 Congress selling out public interest
40:00 Churchill
41:07 We owe everything to the surrounding society + maximum society
42:15 Jim Crow
44:00 We have history of people trying to coexist with radically different beliefs
44:39 Stoking racial division
48:27 Ideologues not wanting to listen
49:24 Tenured does not lead to new ideas
51:07 Start so re-examine racial dogma that has been repeated
53:00 Wanting to write a book on intellectuals
My god could you imagine having Thomas Sowell lecture at your school and then being able to talk with him on campus. Sounds like heaven.
Imagine Thomas Sowell was your grandpa.
Imagine Sowell as your boyfriend. Wtf? Are you all harping on about?
@@jaed2630 LMFAOOOOO
Lol you’re starting to type like him “My God” 😂😂
Honestly
"I don’t want people making decisions who dont pay the price of making these decisions"
I was just going to put this quote up here then I saw yours. Isn't that ironic how relevant it is today some thirty years later? Human race will never change.
"Skin in the Game" is Everything.
This man is prophetic. Only found him recently, I have fallen in love.
Funny you say that I'm a 53 year old and in the 70's & 80's my people use to call him a sell out or uncle tom because he didn't want the hand outs the government was giving our people so rapidly, little did we know he was right all along NO Diddy
I really dislike the obscurity of which Dr. Sowell has been subject to. I'm no scholar, but I'm willing to bet that this man is one of the greatest minds come about in American history.
He's been called the greatest American philosopher of the 20th century among other things.
yep....
you laugh?
puzzling though how he has seemed to prefer obscurity. i don't sense this is out of humility, but comfort.
it's a double edged sword. With more exposure also comes the temptation to compromise. Dr. Sowell's obscurity has helped him focus on the message and perhaps shielded him from influences which might cause him to compromise his research.
First time I have listened to Thomas Sowell. I am ashamed to admit that I have never heard of him.
I will now catch up with all his interviews and listen to his views. Never too late to learn.
A very impressive man,
That's exactly what I thought the first time I encountered him. I had started to lose hope with all the punditry. People just mindlessly toeing the party line, until I ran accross Mr. Sowell, the voice of reason.
Time to watch some Uncommon Knowledge.
I'll give him a try. I just know that Ben Shapiro posts about him a lot on FB, but I'm not the biggest fan of Shapiro. He's knowledgeable and is right about many of the things he speaks about, but I lost a lot of respect for him when he defended the Michelle Field's nontroversy. I agree with him that he should have left Brietbart for being a megaphone for Trump, but the whole Michelle Fields thing was blown waaaaaaay out of proportion, almost as much as manspreading.
xokelis00 I agree about Shapiro, once it seemed trump stood a chance he flipped the script and started going with the bullshit. He could have still talked bad about trump without giving in to the chorus of nonsense, however maybe he hadn't found enough good reason to? I dunno, but I've listened to him far less of late.
cafeplay games Who does Shapiro shill for?
A brillant man who faces our problems head on. He does not sugar-coat his conclusions.
Absolutely mind boggling that this is from 1990. Still, and extremely, topical today! :-|
Our political conversation has basically been the same since the 70s. The only constant is that the conservatives ultimately lose.
Thomas Sowell is THE greatest empirical economic and cultural analytical mind and author alive today, perhaps ever.
It was being asked even back in 1990, “why have we not seen more of you?” 30 years later, it’s still being asked! I watched every single interview of Thomas Sowell’s, sometimes more than once. Amazing!
A man of ferocious wisdom and charisma.
This is gold. Recently came across Thomas Sowell. Blown away.
He's a great man.
I love how practical and pragmatic he is. So objective and intellectually honest. And he doesn’t seem to care one bit about fame or fortune. Truly one of the greatest minds of our time.
This is the exact interview that changed my entire world view (like Dr Sowell, I was a Marxist in my youth). I can still remember the feeling I had watching this interview oh so many years ago!
If only society in general treasured him as much as he had deserved. He’s now in his early 90s and is as sharp as ever.
God bless Dr Sowell. 🙏❤️
It is absolutely fascinating that Sowell can say all of this 31 years ago and it maps perfectly to 2021.
ABSOLUTE absurdity...
@@joaomalho332 based on what your idiotic opinion?😂
It's such a pleasure to listen to this guy.
This interview is mind-blowing. SJWs have been around for much longer than I had thought. This could have been recorded yesterday and it would be just as relevant.
totally agreed!
*there
Crusades Nuclear Bombs you nailed it, I've been catching up on Sowell's older interviews. In one debate he had with a feminist in the 70's he dismantled the wage gap myth. In the 70's. We're just now rehashing this argument again. Sowell was way ahead of his time.
It's not that he was way ahead of his time... It's that we're behind his time. We've literally regressed that far...
xokelis00 agreed, the regression is real
this guy is like a breath of fresh air.
What a freakin' brilliant guy.
If he was my lecturer I will never fail his course, he softly speaks and get the message across smoothly.
Zebede Zandale you need someone to speak softly???
When I listen to interviews or talks of anyone, beit Ben Shapiro, Dave Rubin, Stevan Hawkins, or anyone like them, I seem to understand them and feel I could emulate them. When it come to Thomas Sowell; he Is the only one that makes me feel intellectually inadequate. I understand what he's saying, but when it comes to knowing how he got his intelligence and information, I'm at a loss. He is truly ahead of his time, it's uncanny how relevant this interview is today; as if he took a time machine twenty years into the future and wrote a few books. Truly awe-inspiring!
You need to read, also read, and then read some more. People like Shapiro and Rubin are political pundits. They have a certain degree of intelectuality and literacy, but for the most part their train of tought is very narrow and their dialectic is straightfoward. Men like Sowell are walking libraries. There is a world of difference between a simple political pundit and a truly knowledgeable man.
Paul Wright I like Shapiro and he has obviously read and listened to a lot of Sowell and Friedman to form his position. Sowell has been influenced by Friedman a little I feel but they are both awesome people.
Sowell was in his 60's at the time of this interview. If you spent your life learning, at 60 years you better know a lot of shit off the top of your head
I share the same feelings whenever I watch on of Dr Sowells interviews.
A great orator with Common Sense, and the facts & data to back him up.
We need more people like Thomas Sowell
Tom Sowell is one of the greatest minds of our century!!!!! Too bad the predominant Liberal press tries to ignore him because he’s a Conservative.
Let's recommend this video to all those who oppose the termination of affirmative action last week.
The more I listen to Dr. Sowell, the prouder I am to be a Conservative.
Sowell is the greatest.
While I might personally understand and intimately agree with what you're saying, nevertheless, please also take into serious consideration that, by further identifying yourself with being a "Conservative" or this or that, you might also be pigeon holing yourself into being further manipulated...
So just keep in mind, that during the despotic heights of Stalinist Russia as a centralized governing body -- politically speaking -- many if not all of the former Marxist Revolutionaries that were instrumental in the overthrow of the Czarist regime - during the October Revolution - would also coincidentally enough, come to self-identify once thoroughly entrenched within Stalin's Government, as "Conservatives."
Why is that?
That's probably because they wanted to "conserve" and legitimize the political gains, which they politically and ideologically achieved during the violent overthrow of the previous Government...
The CCP are also possessed by a very similar line of reasoning; although, in their particular case, they were also perhaps unsuccessful when it comes to thoroughly delegitimizing the legitimacy of the antecedent fulcrum of political power...
This is the reason why China is so obsessed with Taiwan... The Taiwanese Government is the legitimate heir, of what is also recognized historically speaking, as the legitimate seat of contiguous/continous Chinese political power...
I could listen to his wisdom and knowledge all day. It's by design he has not gained popularity
Interesting how the truth is refreshing
I came across this guy through Basic economics, and have been impressed, this is a black Man, that Black kids should listen to. Everything that he say's or has written about is the absolute truth, and really opens one's eyes on what goes on by the Media.
He is a man that kids should listen to. his race is insignificant.
What a gem this man!
I would do anything to meet Thomas Sowell or Jordan Peterson... They've changed my life... Opened my eyes to truth and transcendence...
#HEROS
As I listen to Dr.Sowell, it occurred to me that the more things change the more they remain the same.🕵🏻♀️🕊❤️🇺🇸
He is absolutely iconic. Media, academia take no benefit to proliferate his voice. Popular opinions have nothing to get sensational about regarding Sowell because real life is ugly and unpopular, hyper complex and preverbal. Sowell taps this complexity with stainless clarity. My life is on pause with his content. #loveit !!!
Thomas Sowell's ideas are ones of my brain's favorite food ❤️❤️❤️
2/3 of the way through it started from the beginning... and I just kept watching.
Just willingly listening to Thomas sowell instantly makes you gain 10 IQ points.
one of, if not the most educated and rounded man I have ever heard. I have been dedicated to mr. sowell for many many years. and his knowledge and wisdom is GREAT.
Crazy this was 30 years ago. The things he talks about are just as relevant today if not more in the spotlight.
@ MrEnjoyBeats
Probably because the same monster is simply disguised differently… it always changes its disguise after it’s exposed for what it truly is… but it never changes it’s nature… it can’t… a thing is what is by by its very nature… the monster itself, along with its very nature must be destroyed.
Classic interview by a classic MAN. He’s the best.
This man has changed my life. Civil Rights the the greatest lie ever told to black people in this country.
Such simple logic and reasoning, yet brilliant because no one else is, perplexingly, saying it.
It may not matter how or what show we get to enjoy these insights. Feel blessed that we still have access to the interviews and books.
I love to hear him speak.❤
He tried to save us. What a brilliant man. Thank you sir for effort sir.
I could only hope that with hard work, understanding and love that both my son and daughter could be as so articulate and intellectually inclined as Thomas Sowell.
this is truly an amazing conversation
This interview is 1990!!! Why does the narrative sound like nothing has changed? Who was President then, and who is the President now? WHY IS THIS STILL AN ISSUE?
I was thinking the same thing as I was listening!
GHW Bush, Obama. 2/3 answered.
Yes, and what do we have now?? Globalist Bushs', that are again showing their colors, and Clintons, who have shadowed theirs, as well. Why not think bigger? Who owns the water rights around the world?
The sad thing is that the content by Thomas Sowell and Milten Friedman from the late seventies is exactly the same as well. Nothing has changed in the narrative for at least 45 years.
Because people can't say no to free stuff even if it destroys the economy. Check out Sowell's Basic Economics where he talks about this issue among others.
Excellent interview! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I am a great admirer of Sowell. And I am French. Fortunately I can read books written in English, hence my admiration but it's an absolute shame that his books are not translated in French (still one of the major languages in the world).
His judgment of so many popular trends and issues today remain timeless - partly due to his insistence to let the facts guide your thinking and conclusions. The fact that he pines for absolute individual freedom sure makes for great dinner conversations
National Treasure : Thomas Sowell ❤️
This man is the most interesting man alive (I could qualify that further, but that would be doing a disservice)
I read many of the preceding comments.....we are beyond impressed.....thank you for taking time to communicate with us......hopefully we can get a chance to apply what we have learned here.... God bless you....
37:00 Stamford has “perfected the technique of pre-emptive surrender” !! 🤣🤣
So beautifully put - and so very Sowellian!
Thank you Eddie
Below is just a list of things want to remember:
11:00 pro life vs pro choice meeting
14:00 Marxian economics
19:55 diversity in the Berkeley, window dressing
22:42 “Admit people on the basis of qualifications
24:58 why write? To better race?
26:00 having your word distorted
28:15 racial divisions, what is stoking flame?
32:21 when students can’t keep up you need teachers that can’t keep up
32:00 hire “ideologically” black people
34:00 very narrow ideological conformity
37:30 biased against politics
38:00 Congress selling out public interest
40:00 Churchill
41:07 we owe everything to the surrounding society + maximum society
42:15 Jim Crow
44:00 we have history of what happens when you have people trying to coexist with radically different beliefs
44:39 stoking racial division
46:39 -||- + mindset on both sides
48:27 ideologues not wanting to listen
49:24 tenured does not lead to new ideas
51:07 start so re-examine racial dogma that has been repeated
53:00 wanting to write a book on intellectuals
1:15:00
1:15:30
Thanks for this
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@@xokelis0015 no worries at all, thank you for uploading the video!
Great man. Brilliant guy.
I used to love his column.
As many below. Wish I was mature and wise enough to have listened to him years ago.
We got the wrong black to be the first black president. Imagine this guy been the president for 8 years with this kind of knowledge and mind.
Such a great mind! This man teaches how to think properly. He challenges not what you think but how you arrived to your conclusion. Then opens avenues I couldn't conceive with out his nudge.
Amazing!
I recently discovered this thinker. He seems so composed and knowledgeable. I'm going to read A Conflict of Vision. Thanks for uploading this interview.
Conflict of Visions is Sowell's best piece of writing
I think when Q Tarantino wrote the character Jules in Pulp Fiction he had Thomas Sowell in mind. “ It’s the one that says Bad Mother F&@!er on it”. This is a man who should have movies and murals in his honor. An unknown national treasure.
Lamb is a good interviewer. Will look for more of him.
16:38-17:25 valuable words.
What an extraordinary man he is. I learned a lot from him. As a feminist academic, I have always been for affirmative actions. I reasoned that more opportunities for women means less time to get to equality. But listening to him, I can see the falacy of it. Only the elite women or those affluent women will benefit from it.
Not only that, but when women get into highly competitive positions, the men working with them will always wonder if they got there by merit or by handout, and as a result wonder whether to even take them seriously, or treat them as members of the team.
I'm glad to see Dr. Sowell red pilling feminism. Cheers!
A conflict of visions is the most difficult book I have ever read. Read it a couple times and I probably need to read it a few more times to fully comprehend.
TechnoSgt
Liberals and conservatives are weirdos that have a lot of ideas about everything that is strangely contradictory of each other.
ex. Feminism and Islam are allies despite being total opposites of one another
ex. Men's rights and guns. Men's rights are typically conservatives yet they are anti gun legislation despite firearms being a major threat to the health and safety of men.
His books tries to explain why it is that these contradictions and many others pop up in respective circles.
Because most men's rights people, I'm guessing, have done the cost benefit analysis, looked at the effectiveness of gun control legislation and decided that the our right to defend ourselves and our families, and our right to resist and overthrow a tyrannical government are worth the cost in lives lost due to gun homicides.
xokelis00
Your comment right there sums up the book perfectly.
Your conservative
You support 2nd amendment rights
You probably voted for Trump if you bothered to vote at all
All military (even air force) are heroes.
1st amendment rights with absolutely no restrictions on them ever
All these things that make up your thought process comes from a vision of the world that says that things like this make sense even the parts that contradicts one another.
Half-Nerd Half-Something Else
I've read the book too. I have a constrained vision of the world. Human beings are not perfectable and need to operate with constraints.
Having said that.
1. I am not conservative, but liberal, in the classical sense, because the people who call themselves liberals today are actually progressives and socialists.
2. I like all classical liberals support the 2nd Amendment.
3. I voted for Trump because I was left with worse alternatives from the Libertarian party and from the Democrats. I initially planned on voting for Johnson.
4. Military members ARE in fact heroes, unless they've done something to contradict that, such as shoot up a bunch of civilians for no reason. I am Air Force by the way.
5. Like all classical liberals, liberty comes first, this means completely unrestricted free speech.
Now tell me sir, which of these views contradict themselves and how?
xokelis00
You support 2nd amendment even though you value life.
You used a corrupt system to vote your guy in despite the fact that the current system had proven time and again to stomp on your freedoms.
You let supporting the troops blindo you from the symbol of oppression or military means to certain parts of the world.
Freedom unrestricted is very problematic in itself
You're not a bad person. You like others simply want to make the world a better place.
Dr Thomas, I have all his books, articles and have watched all his interviews, this Dr is treasure, and Pls don’t hate him, just read his books and balance or think through what he is teaching us or lecturing us , he is also historian about his economics, again pls read his books.
This guy is incredibly intelligent sad we don't have more blacks that don't think like Mr. Sowell
A great many of them actually do. The television only depicts rappers, black thugs in movies, and sport players.
The honest intellectual! Here he is.
He is magnificent isn't he. You can just listen to him all day because he just sticks to the facts and will dismantle people who don't bring any. he'll change his view point based purely on evidence.
I would like to say that the moment at 29:45 to 30:02 really hit home. It's interesting because I considered myself the "best at math" when I was in the third grade in Upstate New York, but when my family abruptly moved to North Carolina, I found myself at the very bottom (ironically the mirror of his move). That was the only "D" grade I ever received, all the way to my master's degree in engineering.
On a side note, they should erect a statue of this man. The sooner, the better.
33 years later he was so correct
Is this man a psychic or what!?!? And this was back 1990!!!
This was 27 years ago! A prophet.
This man is the only genius who can speak in a very matter of fact way. Keep it simple stupid. Dr . Sowell is a no nonsense kind of guy. He throws strikes right down the center of the plate. He uses a scalpel to cut away the fat and get to the arteries, identify the clot ,cut it out and suture the incision. Ok , just having fun. but this guy is smart. I like going to sleep listening to this guy . He's got that James Earl Jones kind of voice.
Thomas Sowell is a very smart man.
Despite the fact of feeling sad by ignoring the existence of this great individual until now.
I'll like to comment that comparing this kind of debate to what we are currently witnessing in modern politics and media is quite enlightening, I share a lot of respect for both the interviewer and the guest, thanks to the uploader, and if you guys know some other: persona, show, series (carl sagan cosmos type), etc.(no specific topic)
Please let me know.
Already wanted to read about Churchill, but now I want to read about him even more
Walter E Williams, Milton Friedman, Friedrich Hayek are of the same era with similar views. Some are in the auto playlist right now :)
Thank you very much, I got a plan for this afternoon :)
This man is predicting exactly what has happened in the last 2 years and did so in the 1990's. What a genius.
At the 28 minute mark he just hits it out of the park. This is what should be required reading at college campuses.
Brilliant man!
5:26 Is so hugely relevant to today. People hearing this could save a ton of time, money and suffering.
If black people (as well as everyone else) would listen to Thomas Sowell’s words, this would be a far better country. He is so simply common sense while also being likely the smartest man alive. Our society is missing the greatest mind of our time.
I love around 48:00 when he basically says why would he waste his time
What's most amazing at the same time. Most sad is the issues Thomas brings up and is worried about are a thousand times worse than when this interview was. The ideological battles on campus were lost probably before he even gave this interview, and close-minded conformity of progressive ideology has taken hold utterly across most campuses. And is now spilled over in the culture in society
This man could cure racism, and corruption in government if people would just listen and learn. I know that won’t happen, be he could. Totally honest, outrageously intelligent, wise even beyond his many years, and common sense to perfection.
"I don't want people to make decisions that do not have to pay the price for those decisions" interesting...
15:50 ‘People who raise their heads will set off a search and destroy mission because have a lot at stake and they are sitting on a house of cards. They have many assumptions that simply can not be examined carefully, because those assumptions will collapse.’
The civil service attracts timid people who want to secure their tenure 😂😂😂
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Sowell and Friedman called all out problems today 50 years ago.
The fact that this video is 7 years old with less the 100k views says it all. I had to search the Poster's name to find it.
Wow! He thinks as I do.
18:57 blew my mind. I always had a suspicion reading the bible and then seeing such huge financial success from church leaders. I get it now.
This is true only in the case of ( certain) Religious leaders, not leaders who have Faith in Jesus. Christianity is not a religion, but a way of life. There are still Christians even today, in some countries, who are willing to die for Christ, and who show a marked difference to those who use religion for gain. A principle is proved by those who live it.( Aside from that one thing, I agreed with his points.)
Great interview but something wrong with the editing? At 56.00 It seems to start from the beginning again.
It’s true in 2021 it’s sad
True
i like this guy
He's a likable guy.
Having juat groaned through Prince William's nonsensical speech about diversity at the Bafta awards in 2020 it's amazing to watch the great man Sowell discuss the inherent problems of forcing diversity into all aspects of society (regardless of empirical evidence to prove its efficiency) a full 30 years ago. Always fascinating to spend a hour listening to someone who seems to be talking facts rather than shouting rhetoric
He mentions Derrick Bell, one of the people who created CRT.
35:36 Thomas Sowell likens Derrick Bell to Adolf Hitler. Truly amazing.
Simply common sense.
Thomas Sowell few have heard of. Al Sharpton many have heard of. This demonstrates how screwed up our society is more than anything.
Sure that statement doesn't say as much about you as it does about society?
Do you have any idea how academically decorated Sowell is? Al Sharpton is a public figure, a Christian preacher and political activist. Sowell is an academic who - as he states here - writes at a very high level and avoids the kind of media attention that Rev. Sharpton pursues.
"Germans came with piano making skills, why would you expect Irish to be involved to the same level?"
Is that really the basis of affirmative action? Or is that a telescoped caricature which appeals to people who resent what they sea as undeserved special treatment.
@@andrewjohnson8232 I have read four of Thomas Sowell's books and share his lectures with my children. Al Sharpton is a Race Hustler.
@@andrewjohnson8232 Thomas Sowell doesn't avoid media attention, the liberal media avoids Thomas Sowell because his narrative is not in line with liberal ideologies. "Special Treatment" of any kind based on your ethnicity is wrong. Shedding that is the ultimate goal. Affirmative Action was needed at one time in our history, but the goal is to get to the point where we abandon that temporary tool. John Robert's majority opinion in the Supreme Court case is an interesting read. I recommend you read it.
@@jimmoses6617
How many Noam Chomsky interviews have been on Fox? All media favours the advance of its corporate polemic.
Thomas Sowell is the one who says he avoids media attention, and he receives a fair share of it.
There aren't many serious academics who can be so readily cited by people who are usually entirely uninterested in academia.
Of course the goal of any moral person is to see the end of ethnic discrimination, whether negative or favourable. But the same people who will foam at the mouth over affirmative action, will feel no dissatisfaction over America's atrocious social disparities and will be entirely dismissive of the history in which they are rooted.
Stating that affirmative action opposes our social ideals and stating that the stratagem is an ideological con based on a false representation of naturally occurring and justifiable disparity are two different things.
The first is, I think, a given, the second is... (insert expletives)
Amazing, 1990. nothing has changed for the better, only gotten worse just as he predicted, the upward spiral of racial tension.