The whole community on Tesla Twitter, all the Tesla owner-RUclipsrs, even the Tesla-oriented blogs and news sites --- they are all really just a proxy for wishing we had a periscope into the heart of Tesla's factory and design studio. Sandy's guided tour is the closest thing yet to realizing that dream. The only thing left to wish for after this is a periscope into Elon's brain itself. Will probably have to wait for Neuralink's product launch for that...although Third Row Podcast has also gotten some pretty good results recently.
These vids are what I am most looking foward to coming out right now. I know it's years away, but I can't wait to see the tear down of the Cyber truck....so curious.
Decent camera work with the slow and steady movements. Far too often people will point at something for a quarter second and thinking that's fine... So good job keeping it nice and slow so people don't get disoriented and can actually see what you're pointing at for a few seconds.
Ha. The expert experiences the upside of (unintentional) crowd-sourced fact checking. You sound happy about it, which is a nice testament to your disposition. Are you enjoying this as much as we are? -- Can't thank you enough for doing this open-source. Much love.
The upper control arm he referred to as 'damper' with screws instead of ties now, can confirm that newer model 3's have this. I have an early 3, and recently replaced the upper control arm on both sides because the bushings were squeaking (100k kms). The new part I got looks like slight redesign hopefully the squeak issue is also eliminated as was common on early 3's. I would guess it's identical on Y and 3.
I loved automobiles since I was 4yo (I'm now45) and YOU are a joy to watch. And not only that but you also look to like EVs (I saw you smiling) and its great to see a legend spending time reverse-engineering these vehicles. I'm from Greece I wouldn't hear your name if you haven't done that with Tesla's... Well done Mr Munro (& associates) you are an exceptional bright example for the old oil industry and everyone else. And one last thing: I love your dedication on truth.
These videos are freaking awesome. And whomever the camera person is should be instructing a few people on RUclips. Very fluid and deliberate motions that don't make you want to be seasick. I'm glad someone is rationally critiquing these cars, and neither insulating Musk, whilst also not tearing into him and his product beyond reason. I wish every review of things were like these videos.
@@MunroLive 4.65K and rising. Keep up the good work and stay safe in these strange times. Greetings from Germany! :) (As someone else commented: the steady and slow camera work is very pleasant to follow!)
Mr. Munro thank you for doing such a good job on these teardowns. One, I know this is probably a weird comment, but you really remind me of my father the way you talk and you move, so this video adds an extra upside to it for me. Also I'm glad to see that you are gaining subscribers as I am a hardcore Tesla fan and I remember when you did the tear down on the Model 3. Because it had some poor quality issues people were really beating you up on being open and talking about the gaps and the build issues. A lot of people didn't like you because of it. The tear down in the model Y seems just as thorough if not more, but you're keeping the same balance opinion about it. I'm glad to see that you're still doing such a good job as I followed your work for quite some time. Looking forward to all your future videos.
Good observation! Best part about it is that it doesn't add cost to the part, just requires the die tooling to be machined that way from the initial launch. No extra manufacturing steps necessary at the component level.
Sandy, thank you for making that correction of the trim level being Performance instead of just a Long Range Dual Motor. It's really nice to see someone admit they made a mistake and stepped up to correct what was said in the previous video. Please keep these great videos coming, as a Model 3 owner, I'm learning a lot about my car as well from your Model Y videos.
Great stuff. Suggestion: get a high quality handheld camera and a laser pointer, when you want to show a detail on the car, cut from the presenter cam (your assistant with the camera filming you) to a handheld cam you can direct yourself... It will save time waiting for the assistant to get focused on what you are pointing out, and will let you be more flexible in pointing out details.
Face reveal at 1 million subs? Just joking. Keep up the good work! So great to see an expert analysis of a vehicle (for free!) and the camera work is on point.
I’m a huge Lexus guy and I would NEVER watch a similar video about a Lexus. This is fascinating. Just trying to figure a way to dump my es and rx for a model Y.
This suspension stuff looks really complicated. So many parts connected to different joints. It would be cool to go deep inside that kind of engineering. Great show!
Video #4 Fit and Finish On the left side of the trunk the emblem says "Dual Motor" the 2:00 mark of the video. In this video @2:30 Sandy says this is not the "Dual Motor" model but the "High Performance" model. So I guess it's both.
Daimler, BMW, JLR, Ford, GM and Toyota are probably keeping their eyes glued on these videos. They all wish they could produce an EV that would sell like a Tesla.
These videos are excellent, great to see small bites of the year down process. Although I'm still a bit sorry that the car gets torn down. But. Keep them coming
We love you DownUnder____You are 'Simply The BEST' informative 'Breaker Breaker' like 'WHELAN THE WRECKER' only you don't use your 'BIG WRECKING BALL' to tear-down!!!!!
Loving the videos. Thanks for making something that you would normally get paid to do, free to the public. Question: On the damper, is it better to have bolts or bands? What are the pros and cons to each? Which one is easier for assembly? Durability? etc Thanks again,
Tesla currently offers these variants of the Model Y when you order (taken directly from the Summary): Model Y Performance Dual Motor All-Wheel Drive and Model Y Long Range Dual Motor All-Wheel Drive They are both Dual Motor All-Wheel Drive. So there are two variants of the Dual Motor All-Wheel Drive, the Performance and the Long Range. So you were actually correct in calling it the Dual Motor, but more precise in calling it the Performance Dual Motor (as opposed to the Long Range Dual Motor). Although it is probably worth noting that the stealth Performance variant (i.e., without the Performance Upgrade) has only 1 mile less range (315 miles) than the Long Range variant (316 miles).
Good stuff Sandy! Really enjoying this tear down. With content like this, I really don't mind the Corona virus; hell maybe I'll have a liquid Corona just to celebrate....Cheers.
Though i don’t understand the obsession with panel gaps (earlier video today) I think that your videos are fantastic. A lot of good information about what i think will be Teslas home run if they survive coronageddon. Thanks and stay safe.
Panel gaps are visible to the owner and show bad quality control. If whats visible is not very good, we can think what is not visible can also be not very good.
Keep em coming! I’m a Y owner of a non performance. Can you clarify any parts that may be specific to the Performance as you conduct the tear down. Thanks!
I wonder if there are any obvious changes from the Model 3 design that look noise-related. Softer bushings, different mounts etc that would reduce the transmission of road noise.
Sandy, how are you compensated for the purchase of the vehicle and the time and expense of tear down? I very much appreciate your videos. Very informative.
Great question, Larry! Typically, we generate revenue based on the sales of our reports and analysis, which includes calculated costs for all components, manufacturing analyses, eye-catching features, BOMs, topology diagrams, etc. If you'd like to see a full listing of what's included, check out munrolive.com/access-%2F-shop However, in this case, we are also trying to generate some cash flow through donations to support this free content for viewers. If you're enjoying what you're seeing and feel compelled to support us, we'd greatly appreciate it! Thanks for tuning in!
Great video Sandy and team! Is there any chance we could get these in 60 fps so motion while looking around the car is smoother and less blurry? Thank you!
Sandy, I have a 2021 MYLR with 20" OEM wheels which I love but feel the ride is too firm. Would you recommend any of the available after market luxury coilover upgrades or recommend that we stay with the stock suspension?
NOTE: according to Motor Trend here (www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-model-3-teardown-details/)(supposedly reporting what Sandy said) the screws/zip ties only hold the piece in place while the glue dries : "Front Upper Control Arm-These are formed of thinner-gauge stamped steel then reinforced by having plastic webbing molded inside. This plastic also provides attachment points for routing the ABS sensor wiring. The oddity: Note the ingot of iron that is glued in place (held by zip-ties while glue sets). Munro reckons this is to dampen a troublesome natural frequency. It remains to be seen if AWD Model 3s will require this."
Hey Sandy! There are three companies, UPP, MPP, and Redwood which make Coilover suspensions for the Y which they claim give it a much smoother more luxurious quality ride. Do you know anything about these? Are they safe to have installed? Thanks!
What motors are in it? Please check the plates with model numbers that are usually on the left side of the motor. Would be interesting to see if it's the same as model 3 (960 in the front, 980/990 in the rear).
I want a Tesla so bad I can cry 😢. After this teardown I’ll put it back together with help from these videos😀& ship it to the Bahamas 🇧🇸, keep up the good work. love the tip jar idea, will do
sandy thanks for this but how do you know Tesla hasnt implemented the changes you see in the Model Y to the Model 3? the suspension components you have from the M3 are at least a year old..
I have the 2020 Model Y Long Range, 19" tires. The suspension is horrible on ruff roads like driving in a big city where pavement has a lot, shall we say, imperfections.
The suspension components look good, but every driving review of a Tesla mentions a stiff, less-than-comfortable ride. I know good handling requires firmness, but harshness should not be experienced in premium cars intended to travel over poorly paved public roads. As with excessive wind noise, they should have remedied this, by now.
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Who else is glued to these videos? Love it, keep it coming!
The whole community on Tesla Twitter, all the Tesla owner-RUclipsrs, even the Tesla-oriented blogs and news sites --- they are all really just a proxy for wishing we had a periscope into the heart of Tesla's factory and design studio. Sandy's guided tour is the closest thing yet to realizing that dream.
The only thing left to wish for after this is a periscope into Elon's brain itself. Will probably have to wait for Neuralink's product launch for that...although Third Row Podcast has also gotten some pretty good results recently.
These vids are what I am most looking foward to coming out right now. I know it's years away, but I can't wait to see the tear down of the Cyber truck....so curious.
meeee
Yes! And I think he should run for US president.
Decent camera work with the slow and steady movements. Far too often people will point at something for a quarter second and thinking that's fine... So good job keeping it nice and slow so people don't get disoriented and can actually see what you're pointing at for a few seconds.
Appreciate the feedback, good to know we're moving in the right direction! Thank you!
@@MunroLive Love the videos.
But this isn't essential work.
The poor camera person was seemingly going ah fuck gotta pan up where's the damn pan wheel on this gimbal ah shit ah crap XD
Ha. The expert experiences the upside of (unintentional) crowd-sourced fact checking. You sound happy about it, which is a nice testament to your disposition. Are you enjoying this as much as we are? -- Can't thank you enough for doing this open-source. Much love.
Absolutely enjoying it! Thanks for tuning in and keeping us on our toes, everyone!
Only good thing about being stuck at home for weeks... Plenty of time to keep up to date on Sandy's teardown of the Model Y!
Way to look on the bright side! Thanks for watching!
The 6 videos are on average 5 minutes long? How much time do you need to watch it..??
i am binge watching all of San Munro's video clicks about model Y. Whos with me.
The upper control arm he referred to as 'damper' with screws instead of ties now, can confirm that newer model 3's have this. I have an early 3, and recently replaced the upper control arm on both sides because the bushings were squeaking (100k kms). The new part I got looks like slight redesign hopefully the squeak issue is also eliminated as was common on early 3's. I would guess it's identical on Y and 3.
Good to know, thanks for confirming! Sounds like the transition to screws vs. bands must have been a running change.
@@MunroLive we need to get you at the ground level of the cybertruck build 🙋♂️🙋♂️
When did this change happen on the Model 3?
@BeAn BeAn when was that 🤔 did you mean bands?
BeAn BeAn twist-ties? Hardly. Industrial bands will last just as long, if not longer than bolts. They just cost more.
Dont own a car but you are eloquent in explaining these things. This channel will definitely grow. High five from Philippines.
I don't mean to detract from your analysis, but I have to say that the camera man is doing god's work.
Would you be shocked if I said it's on an iPhone?
I loved automobiles since I was 4yo (I'm now45) and YOU are a joy to watch. And not only that but you also look to like EVs (I saw you smiling) and its great to see a legend spending time reverse-engineering these vehicles. I'm from Greece I wouldn't hear your name if you haven't done that with Tesla's... Well done Mr Munro (& associates) you are an exceptional bright example for the old oil industry and everyone else. And one last thing: I love your dedication on truth.
Appreciate the kind words, thanks for tuning in!
These videos are freaking awesome. And whomever the camera person is should be instructing a few people on RUclips. Very fluid and deliberate motions that don't make you want to be seasick. I'm glad someone is rationally critiquing these cars, and neither insulating Musk, whilst also not tearing into him and his product beyond reason.
I wish every review of things were like these videos.
It is good so see that Sandy is cleaning up his language for RUclips. Way to go Sandy !
When I start to subscribe to this Chanel. The number was 243 subscribers
Now is 3.1K
Good job Sandy
Watching you from Slovakia 🇸🇰
Thanks for being an early adopter, JoJo! Cheers to our friends in Slovakia!
@@MunroLive 4.65K and rising. Keep up the good work and stay safe in these strange times. Greetings from Germany! :)
(As someone else commented: the steady and slow camera work is very pleasant to follow!)
9k now
11K
14.2K and climbing asymptotic like an infection 🦠oops, did I say something wrong?
Sandy is a natural RUclipsr.
Mr. Munro thank you for doing such a good job on these teardowns. One, I know this is probably a weird comment, but you really remind me of my father the way you talk and you move, so this video adds an extra upside to it for me. Also I'm glad to see that you are gaining subscribers as I am a hardcore Tesla fan and I remember when you did the tear down on the Model 3. Because it had some poor quality issues people were really beating you up on being open and talking about the gaps and the build issues. A lot of people didn't like you because of it. The tear down in the model Y seems just as thorough if not more, but you're keeping the same balance opinion about it. I'm glad to see that you're still doing such a good job as I followed your work for quite some time. Looking forward to all your future videos.
Brake shielding with the Tesla Logo is pretty cool!
Good observation! Best part about it is that it doesn't add cost to the part, just requires the die tooling to be machined that way from the initial launch. No extra manufacturing steps necessary at the component level.
I'm not familiar with the brake shield, but looks to me like it has T3 (iii) on it?
@@MunroLive It costs extra time to machine the dies but that's minor.
@@MrCarGuy Yep, completely agree. We'd refer to that as an "investment cost" vs. a "variable cost". Thanks for tuning in!
Sandy, thank you for making that correction of the trim level being Performance instead of just a Long Range Dual Motor. It's really nice to see someone admit they made a mistake and stepped up to correct what was said in the previous video. Please keep these great videos coming, as a Model 3 owner, I'm learning a lot about my car as well from your Model Y videos.
Loving these on-the-hop updates, Sandy. Thanks.
Love your work. Very informative, to the point. Well done, Sandy and team!
Great job Mr Munro! Appreciate your insights and keeping this open.
Great stuff. Suggestion: get a high quality handheld camera and a laser pointer, when you want to show a detail on the car, cut from the presenter cam (your assistant with the camera filming you) to a handheld cam you can direct yourself... It will save time waiting for the assistant to get focused on what you are pointing out, and will let you be more flexible in pointing out details.
Thanks for the suggestion! We will try and improve as we bring content to you.
"Good morning everybody, this is Sandy Munro, been up all night, tearing into the model Y"
Thank you Sandy, this is my favourite vid so far. Love the suspension insight, to see the differences and the not so differences 🙏🙏💛💛
Former OEM engineer here. Sure miss visiting your facilities and browsing your teardown reports
Face reveal at 1 million subs?
Just joking. Keep up the good work!
So great to see an expert analysis of a vehicle (for free!) and the camera work is on point.
I’m a huge Lexus guy and I would NEVER watch a similar video about a Lexus. This is fascinating. Just trying to figure a way to dump my es and rx for a model Y.
This suspension stuff looks really complicated. So many parts connected to different joints. It would be cool to go deep inside that kind of engineering. Great show!
Great work Sandy
Beautiful. Watching from Nigeria🇳🇬
Definitely glued to these videos.
Sandy: "Now there's one thing that I do have to clear up."
*clears throat*
Video #4 Fit and Finish On the left side of the trunk the emblem says "Dual Motor" the 2:00 mark of the video.
In this video @2:30 Sandy says this is not the "Dual Motor" model but the "High Performance" model. So I guess it's both.
amazing you guys have your own RUclipschannel now!
Daimler, BMW, JLR, Ford, GM and Toyota are probably keeping their eyes glued on these videos. They all wish they could produce an EV that would sell like a Tesla.
F C they gotta invest in battery gigafactories first.
These videos are excellent, great to see small bites of the year down process. Although I'm still a bit sorry that the car gets torn down. But. Keep them coming
Loving the videos Sandy - Please keep them coming. And stay safe!
We love you DownUnder____You are 'Simply The BEST' informative 'Breaker Breaker' like 'WHELAN THE WRECKER' only you don't use your 'BIG WRECKING BALL' to tear-down!!!!!
Keep up the great work. Really enjoy the videos.
Loving the videos. Thanks for making something that you would normally get paid to do, free to the public. Question: On the damper, is it better to have bolts or bands? What are the pros and cons to each? Which one is easier for assembly? Durability? etc
Thanks again,
Good question, Tony! Check out our latest Q&A video for an answer!
@@MunroLive Wow Sandy, thank you for answering my question!
I have no idea why I'm enjoying these videos. Like, would there be this much attention if it was any other type of car?
I wish I would have known when I was a kid that I could get a job taking shit apart.
2:06 Sandy's clone does all of the deskwork, eh?
that battery case bottom cover is beautiful
Tesla currently offers these variants of the Model Y when you order (taken directly from the Summary):
Model Y Performance Dual Motor All-Wheel Drive
and
Model Y Long Range Dual Motor All-Wheel Drive
They are both Dual Motor All-Wheel Drive. So there are two variants of the Dual Motor All-Wheel Drive, the Performance and the Long Range. So you were actually correct in calling it the Dual Motor, but more precise in calling it the Performance Dual Motor (as opposed to the Long Range Dual Motor). Although it is probably worth noting that the stealth Performance variant (i.e., without the Performance Upgrade) has only 1 mile less range (315 miles) than the Long Range variant (316 miles).
Good stuff Sandy! Really enjoying this tear down. With content like this, I really don't mind the Corona virus; hell maybe I'll have a liquid Corona just to celebrate....Cheers.
Thanks for making this a part of your routine, Pete!
Many people do, don’t fight the urge to enjoy the namesake
great stuff, keep it coming
Thank you. Neat stuff
Thanks for doing this. Super interesting!
It technically is a dual motor but is the performance variant with larger dual motors
Great video!
WOW awesome updates!
Though i don’t understand the obsession with panel gaps (earlier video today) I think that your videos are fantastic. A lot of good information about what i think will be Teslas home run if they survive coronageddon. Thanks and stay safe.
Panel gaps are visible to the owner and show bad quality control. If whats visible is not very good, we can think what is not visible can also be not very good.
I subscribed, this is really interesting...not meant to be sarcastic!
That front suspension arrangement looks just like the 2006 Mazda 6 front suspension!
Given the control arm bolt failure, could you do a user kit for replacing the issue?
great stuff
Thanks!
Sandy, great work. Any insight on why the model Y has such hard suspension. Is it the springs, dampers or bushes, for example?
Keep em coming! I’m a Y owner of a non performance. Can you clarify any parts that may be specific to the Performance as you conduct the tear down. Thanks!
Agree!
Brakes, wheels, lower stock suspension, if you get the trim package. Otherwise it's just software locks.
He would have to have a non performance version to compare to
So all that exposed stuff has a cover for protection correct?
I love this SUV! Y
You guys need to partner with some big youtubers so you really get good views on these videos...fantastic
Excellent job,God bless you.
I wonder if there are any obvious changes from the Model 3 design that look noise-related. Softer bushings, different mounts etc that would reduce the transmission of road noise.
We will look into that and bring you the answer as we move forward.
Pretty good hand-held camera work. It is not as easy as youse guy make it seem.
The front suspension is very similar to the Giulia one with split lower control arm double wishbone design...
Liked and subscribed!
Sandy, how are you compensated for the purchase of the vehicle and the time and expense of tear down? I very much appreciate your videos. Very informative.
Great question, Larry! Typically, we generate revenue based on the sales of our reports and analysis, which includes calculated costs for all components, manufacturing analyses, eye-catching features, BOMs, topology diagrams, etc. If you'd like to see a full listing of what's included, check out munrolive.com/access-%2F-shop However, in this case, we are also trying to generate some cash flow through donations to support this free content for viewers. If you're enjoying what you're seeing and feel compelled to support us, we'd greatly appreciate it! Thanks for tuning in!
Great video Sandy and team! Is there any chance we could get these in 60 fps so motion while looking around the car is smoother and less blurry? Thank you!
Hello! These are shot in 4K or HD. We will insure that 60 FPS is used, not 30 FPS.
How deep of water is the limit to be submerged. For the Jaguar I-pace I heard it’s fairly deep
Sandy, I have a 2021 MYLR with 20" OEM wheels which I love but feel the ride is too firm. Would you recommend any of the available after market luxury coilover upgrades or recommend that we stay with the stock suspension?
Is that a double-wishbone front suspension?
Yes, but “virtual-ball” lower.
NOTE: according to Motor Trend here (www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-model-3-teardown-details/)(supposedly reporting what Sandy said) the screws/zip ties only hold the piece in place while the glue dries :
"Front Upper Control Arm-These are formed of thinner-gauge stamped steel then reinforced by having plastic webbing molded inside. This plastic also provides attachment points for routing the ABS sensor wiring. The oddity: Note the ingot of iron that is glued in place (held by zip-ties while glue sets). Munro reckons this is to dampen a troublesome natural frequency. It remains to be seen if AWD Model 3s will require this."
Sandy- is the suspension bits upgraded on the performance as opposed to the standard Y? Or just the breaks?
The big question is tire clearance? I know it can clear 18" wheels but would be great if you could put full size tires on the 18" wheel.
Changing the diameter would be risky, might effect speed sensors & braking?
@@robertpryor7225 A little, going with a little bigger tires on our model 3 once they are worn out. Strike the bottom way too much.
Dopelganger in background at 2:20!!!!!!
Hey Sandy! There are three companies, UPP, MPP, and Redwood which make Coilover suspensions for the Y which they claim give it a much smoother more luxurious quality ride. Do you know anything about these? Are they safe to have installed? Thanks!
Would model Y bolt on on model 3? Are the body mounts position the same ?
Are the lower control arms “beefier” because it’s performance?
What motors are in it? Please check the plates with model numbers that are usually on the left side of the motor. Would be interesting to see if it's the same as model 3 (960 in the front, 980/990 in the rear).
Definitely going to be getting into those specifics as the teardown progresses. Thanks for tuning in!
Can you work on suspension on your own on teslas?
I want a Tesla so bad I can cry 😢. After this teardown I’ll put it back together with help from these videos😀& ship it to the Bahamas 🇧🇸, keep up the good work. love the tip jar idea, will do
please, tell me. does it had any suspension adjustment?
sandy thanks for this but how do you know Tesla hasnt implemented the changes you see in the Model Y to the Model 3? the suspension components you have from the M3 are at least a year old..
Are the coil springs similar?
Possible Space for air suspension?
You can always count on the trolls to point out your mistakes.
I wish instead of air suspension (if they are developing one for 3/Y) they would just give us adaptive dampers.
0:30 how many millions of cars did they sell before they realized zip ties is not the proper way to install suspension
I might be wrong but the suspension components look like they might be made by multimatic
yeah that caught my eye too. "Dynamic, a division of multimatic"
You should use a orange tip pointer to point out items on the car that you were talking about. This way your hand is not in the camera view.
How does it compare to a BMW suspension?
Sandy, it’s Brembo, not Bembro!
Are you sure? ;)
That was Great that you
*Popcorn* 👀
I have the 2020 Model Y Long Range, 19" tires. The suspension is horrible on ruff roads like driving in a big city where pavement has a lot, shall we say, imperfections.
You and Tesla’s engineers should get together and hash out your differences and come to a understanding that you both can live with.
Why is the frame rate of this video 5fps
Locane256 hello! I assure you this was filmed in HD At 30FPS. Some people are having degraded quality when watching, we will look into it.
The performance model is still a dual motor u did not make a mistake lol
The suspension components look good, but every driving review of a Tesla mentions a stiff, less-than-comfortable ride. I know good handling requires firmness, but harshness should not be experienced in premium cars intended to travel over poorly paved public roads. As with excessive wind noise, they should have remedied this, by now.
So Tesla used Zip Ties on the control arms? Lol
Originally, yes. Now, no.
Model y, 3 needs air suspension .