Just to clarify, those barbette turbolasers I mentioned when I talked about the ISD-2 seem to have sometimes been installed on ISD-1s, as we see them on the Chimera and some other ships in Star Wars Rebels. They can also be exchanged for Ion Cannons but i'll go into more detail on that when I get around to an ISD-2 video.
I can't wait to see more about the Imperial II class. Please also do a video on the Arquitens class Light Cruiser and the Raider class Corvette as well as the Immobilizer Cruiser
I somehow foresee a problem with having a huge lumbering vessel that sacrifices point defense weapons for a deadly but limited firing arc upfront. Seems to me like if an enemy starship approaches from any other angle than the front the Imperial II would be severely fucked since it cant bring its weapons to bear, making it suitable to taking out fixed or at least relatively immobile targets like stations, capital ships or planetary bases.
Can you please do a video on the Husnock Warship from "Star Trek: The Next Generation" season 3 episode 3 "The Survivors?" Husnock warships were large starships operated by a hostile now extinct species called the Husnock prior to 2366. This type of vessel was much larger than a Galaxy-class starship, capable of being seen from the surface while in orbit, and capable of destroying all life on a planet. In 2366, a Husnock warship attacked and destroyed a Federation colony on Delta Rana IV. Unknown to the Husnock, an energy lifeform known as a Douwd was also living on the planet in the form of Kevin Uxbridge. In retaliation for the loss of his wife, who died in the Husnock attack, the Douwd used its enormous powers to completely destroy the entire Husnock race. Following the Husnock attack, the USS Enterprise-D arrived to investigate finding all life destroyed except for a small patch of grass and a house within which lived the Douwd and his wife (who was really an illusion). As the Enterprise crew grew more suspicious of Kevin, his wife, and the means by which they had survived, a warship appeared in orbit and attempted to drive the Enterprise away. The Enterprise crew initially believed this was the ship that had attacked the planet, but later discovered that the Douwd himself had created the warship to prevent them from learning the truth about his actions. (TNG: "The Survivors") The recreated warship was a Husnock vessel, according to notes in the script, but whether or not the recreation was as or more powerful than the original remains unknown. Recreated Husnock Warship: First appearance: "Look at the size of that!" -Westly Crusher In 2366, when the USS Enterprise-D was investigating the destruction of the Federation colony on Delta Rana IV, Kevin created this illusory warship in orbit of Delta Rana IV in an attempt to force the Enterprise-D to leave the planet, and his home. This class of warship wasn't listed in the Federation vehicle classification index, but at the time it was assumed to be the same Husnock warship which had previously attacked and obliterated the Delta Rana colony. Initially this illusory vessel fired jacketed streams of positrons and antiprotons, an equivalent firepower of 40 megawatts, which caused no damage to the Enterprise-D. The Enterprise-D fired a warning shot at the ship, causing it to retreat from the system. The Enterprise-D attempted to pursue but was unable to close the gap between the two vessels, even after increasing velocity to Warp 9.37. (TNG: "The Survivors") Second appearance: "Is it my imagination? Or does it look a whole lot meaner this time?" -William T. Riker Video link: ruclips.net/video/BRubpYNDJuk/видео.html Kevin made the ship reappear, some time after the Enterprise-D had returned to Rana IV. During its second appearance, the warship looked to the crew of the Enterprise-D to be much larger and much "meaner." Enterprise-D attempted to hail the ship to warn it to stay away from the planet. In response, the ship fired four hundred gigawatts of particle energy at the Enterprise-D, causing only superficial damage to the ship, but effectively taking down its shields. A second shot took out the rest of the Enterprise-D's shields and caused thermal damage to the hull. Ship sensors, however, were able to determine that the warship was in possession of enormous energy reserves, capable of striking with far more powerful bursts. Following the second attack, the ship moved into orbit of Rana IV and assumed a position over the Uxbridge residence. The Enterprise-D fired a full phaser and photon torpedo barrage at the ship, but caused no damage to the warship. It was then determined that the warship's defenses were able to absorb any incoming weapons fire. The warship returned fire, taking out the Enterprise-D's shields, weapon systems control, as well as causing some internal damage to the ship and non-fatal injuries to sixty-six members of the crew. (TNG: "The Survivors") Third appearance: When the Enterprise-D returned for a third time, Picard told Kevin that the Enterprise-D would stay in orbit to protect Kevin as long as the threat from the warship remained. Kevin had the warship appear for a third time. This time, the Enterprise-D kept its distance and allowed the warship to once again enter orbit over Rana IV - at which time it destroyed the Uxbridge residence. Following the attack, the Enterprise-D fired a single photon torpedo at the warship, destroying it. Picard had determined that the warship was directly serving the needs of Kevin Uxbridge to bait and later chase the Enterprise-D away from the planet. Kevin Uxbridge confirmed the assumption, and indicated that he had tried the same diversionary tactics on the Husnock warship, also to no avail. (TNG: "The Survivors") Background information: The script notes for the episode indicate that the ship created by "Kevin" was a recreation of the Husnock warship that destroyed the colony. The Star Trek Encyclopedia (3rd ed., p. 199) as well as the Star Trek: The Next Generation Companion also support the supposition that this vessel was intended to be a Husnock ship. The deflector shields of the ship had a similar segmented visual effect as the Borg drone shields of this era as they were depicted in TNG: "Q Who" for example. Studio model: This vessel was designed and built by Tony Meininger. According to the Star Trek: The Next Generation Companion (3rd ed., page 103), "The Husnock warship, built by Tony Meininger, was one of the first not designed by a member of the TNG art staff. 'Usually there just isn't time to put into designing them if they're just a 'ship-of-the-week' that's going to be re-dressed later anyway,' said Rick Sternbach, adding that decisions on re-use are made by the alternating TNG visual-effects teams headed by Dan Curry and Rob Legato and their model contractors." It was Meininger's first involvement with the Star Trek franchise (and his only one for TNG, albeit as an outside contractor), before moving on to become the main supplier of studio models for televised Star Trek starting with DS9: "Emissary" In this episode, the model of the ship was modified slightly for the second appearance: one weapon's spike was added to the underside of the ship, so the ship did look "meaner" the second time.
If it makes feel better the clone wars style imperial 1 class Star destroyer has appeared in bad batch and tails of the empire and it looks so much better
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i always find it odd that the official specs for these ships show them as having hundreds of guns, but we only ever see perhaps a dozen of them on screen (and that's typically generous).
Erik Jochums I thought the same with the Venators from the Clone Wars. Sources say they can carry 1,000 fighters, but they're far to small to be able to do that, and such a feat has never come close to being shown in any Star Wars media. The CIS carrying 1,000 droid fighters makes much more sense given its size.
60 XX-9 turbolasers, like seen on the Death Star, running along trenches and upper and lower hull, on ISD mk II at least. A lot are seen in the Legends Mandatory Retirement comic book. Several of the games have them too, like the newest Battlefront, and the ancient Rebel Assault (1) game.
Official sources also say there's 80 fighters, multiple pre-fabricated ground bases and 10,000 crew while saying it's only a mile long. They just pull numbers from nowhere
Why does Star Wars: Rebels ISDs have a much more exagerated neck supporting the bridge? I mean, thats the most obvious thing. If I start pointing out the rest we are gonna be here for a while...
Style choice. Rebels bases much of its style on the old concept art and early Star Wars toy lines. (Hence why the TIEs have longer struts in the show than the movies. The ISDs are just an expamle of this.
Despite being “style choice”, it screams “shoot me right here and now 2.0” so much that it looks far dumber that the style the movies went with-and the original design was already dumb enough by having an exposed bridge in the first place.
Alex Russet it’s a terrible example of stylism. “Let’s take abandoned concept art, art that was deemed not good enough yet to make it into Star Wars in general, and lets make the whole show look like that”. In truth it just looks terrible, not just designs but the animation in general. Every thing is flat and sometimes there’s too much out-of-place color and stuff. Nothing, not even the characters themselves not to mention the settings, have any personality or tactility. In the end, the decision on the animation and designs feels like it was made more to emphasize the kiddie nature of the show than to pay homage to McQuarrie.
the Star Destroyers in Rebels make me think of them as giraffes. The tower is is too tall. Also, the ship shown first in the video has a face between the shield domes.
NightRaven 1901 This is why I love the Galactica design. It's bridge is deep under the hull plating and completely protected from any avenue of attack (Except for boarding parties) but it's hard to board something that has a flak barrier.
NightRaven 1901 Star Trek Beyond introduced this obvious weakness to canon. I always thought that the Thin sections of Starfleet vessels had extra structural integrity and shielding to prevent.... Exactly what happened in Star Trek Beyond.
Now with Beyond logic the Klingons can easily destroy the non canon USS Discovery by targeting the support beams that connect the Bridge Sphere to the rest of the ship.
The Imperial 2 bugs me, in that is places such a heavy emphasis on large scale heavy cannons for engaging other capitol ships, yet when these ships were coming into service there was no other faction in the galaxy with sufficient numbers and size of warships to justify this kind of loadout, the Rebellion for example being reliant on far smaller vessels that rarely went above frigate sized. Also, given the Rebellion's strong reliance on strike craft, the removal of most of the Imperial 2's point defences, especially in light of how pathetic the standard TIE fighter is... well, The Empire frequently seems like its own worst enemy.
I remember hearing someone said the idea is that the Imperial Navy would relegate anti-starfighter duties to other specialized ships, with the imperial 2 focus in engaging enemies capital ship. This is motivated by the appearances of more advance Mon-Calamari ships.
In Legends, the Imperial Navy created the Carrick class corvette, as a direct response to the Rebllion' starfighters, but why even get to that stage, surely someone had to have realised that massive flaw in the Imperial 2.
weldonwin that's always bugged me too and increasingly more as time goes on. We see time and again that small strike craft are the true power in the galaxy. From Luke blasting storm troopers through the death stars hull to Po utterly crippling a dreadnought (not to mention it goes down with one bomber) the fact the Empire and first order don't seem to see the value of fighters has always flummoxed me. Hell, carriers are the true naval powers in real life too. We figured out in WW2 that the carrier is far more effective than the dreadnought. Imagine how different the story would go without the Tarkin Doctrine.
Was not mentioned that it also featured a bridge perched on top of the ship to allow enemy ships to more accurately target the command center. A very vital feature that proved to absolutely not be a vulnerability time and again
It's odd that the Imperial-II had less point defense than the Imperial-I. The Rebels heavily used fighters, corvettes, and gunship-like ships in their attacks. And after the first Death Star, you would think the Empire would have learned.
That isn't really clear Cailus whether the 2nd Death Star was built to replace the loss of the first or if it was always intended for the Empire to roll out a series of Death Stars in order to fortify its grasp on the galaxy. I have heard or read both versions.
Trent Baker True enough. Personally I’ve always doubted the idea that Palpy wanted multiple Death Stars, given how insanely powerful they were. Simply having one would fulfill the intended goal, while having two invites the risk of the Death Stars being used against each other, or having one of them stolen by rebels or some ambitious Moff.
Hyzzah! My favourite ships have the spotlight. I love the ISD I and II so much. Thank you for making this channel. Spacecraft are one of my favourite aspects of sci-fi, and you do such a good job..
Thank you for making a video on my favorite spaceship of all time. I believe the the Imperial-I is the better of the two Star Destroyer variants. Considering, the Rebellion was ramping up just as the Imperial-II was phased into service, I think the Imperial-II was a major strategic blunder on the part of the Empire, the main threat to the Empire being small maneuverable fighters. However we see, that inspite of the destruction of the first Death Star at the hands of snub-fighters, the bureaucratic lack of learning from mistakes, cost the empire heavily during the Battle of Endor, when the Second Death Star was again destroyed by the lack of protection against the enemies preferred method of attack. Hubris, played a major hand in the destruction of both the Empire and indeed the Emperor.
For every four member of staff and stormtroopers there's an officer? Grossly inefficient upper management on these ships, are the officers not capable of taking on a little further responsibility? This is why the Empire fell...
Going by hints in Thrawn, that figure is probably inflated by counting an admiral and a squadron's/fleet's staff officers. Also capital ships were the best place to be posted for your career advancement, so you could also handwave it as ISDs being used almost as "finishing schools" for junior officers. (I'm not disagreeing that it's a weird ratio, I'm just suggesting how we can justify it)
It could also be because of lack of stormtroopers onboard (outside of ground invasion situations) or perhaps officers were given roles that could normally be done by lower ranks. Which would also compliment S Candors version of ISDs being academy graduates first choices. Maybe empire had so many officers there was actually lack of lower managment :) similar to how in modern countries there is a large number of university graduates who have troubles finding jobs suitable for their degrees.
It could be that they wanted insane amounts of people to die when one of these over sized cheese wedges gets destroyed. I mean, fuck, in Rogue One, just the 2 of them colliding just took out nearly 70,000 people!!! Then the death star blows up, killing over a million. They just hate themselves.
It was an empire known for conscripting its troops. In most conscription based militaries, officers do a greater share of the lower work since the conscripts aren’t as well trained as an all volunteer force.
The ISD-I/II's might have made sense if we saw on-screen that the Empire used an extensive fleet of support ships, especially ones mentioned in legends.
They use many light cruisers, quiazars, transports, victory class, oninager class, secutor class, raider class, interdictor, and Tector class watch Star wars squadrons that is how the empire operates in the movies it's mostly death squadron which doesn't use many support ships while a new hope rouge One and solo don't operate with needed support ships Endor did include 4 Tectors and 4 interdictors while empire include 6 imperial transports to unload the walkers
I've always loved your videos I couldn't wait for the start destroyer one, you're vocabulary choice is phenomenal, I feel like I get more information from you then the source material
Say what you will about their lack of point defense, give these things a few escorts to screen fighters while the Imperial focuses on the big ships and they do very well.
The problem was the fact that they didn't use escorts as much as they should've. From what I can see, it wasn't uncommon for star destroyers to operate in groups, but those groups rarely had anything other than star destroyers. Hell, sometimes the destroyers operated completely alone. ALONE! Just take a look at Scarif. Its defense fleet was made up entirely of star destroyers! Not a SINGLE escort. The Empire's attitude equated to- See a problem? Throw star destroyers at it! They had escort ships, they just never bloody used them!
The entire Rebels art style is meant to have a "Ralph mcquarrie concept art" look to it(a consequence of this is many things are longer and thinner, such as TIE Fighter struts). Example: starwarsblog.starwars.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2014/01/30-Assault_inverted.png
Can we see more Warhammer 40k break-downs? Those you have already are excellent, but - as an avid 40k fan - any more from you would be amazing. Your channel delivers a crisp, refined, and succinct style which i've not seen anywhere else. Possible ideas for 40k craft: Space Marine Dreadnoughts (not a starship, i know, but you also covered the Rhino), Eldar Wave Serpents, or any vessel of the Imperial Navy (I personally recommend something like a Sword-Class Frigate).
Martis Endrell In the books they do. They still use imperial class 1s & 2s. Probably wont c them in the movies because they don't want to confuse fans.
(0:16) (1:49) You forgot to mention that the specialized "long necked" bridge support variants of the ISD-1 were created so that captains behind the front line of a large assault group could see what was happening further ahead. However, while it did provide a slightly better tactical advantage in large engagements, many "long necked" captains were teased by their contemporaries because it made their ships appear to have a "startled" or "surprised" appearance. All in good fun! ;) :P Thank you for this short look at one of my favorite ships! :)
The Chimera in Rebels is an Imperial I but it stands to reason when Grand Admiral Thrawn transfers his flag to a newer Imperial II he can commission the ship as the Chimera again.
Just googled star destroyer cutout to see where they store ground forces, turns out the thing on top of the bridge of the ISD-I is laid down flat on top of the Executor(?) bridge. At least, something very similar is visible on a cutout of what I think might be the executor bridge, with one of those shield generator spheres depicted as blown up.
You see, this is why I'm a SW fan. For all the fantasy goof their world still feels so real and alive. The GAR mainline ships had to be versatile during the war because the Republic got caught with its pants down (allegedly) when the war started and so they had to make each ship count. But when the Republic became the Empire, not only did they have the luxury of time to build an infinite fleet but they had the entire galaxy's worth of resources and manpower and so could afford to spend extra. In summary, even though it would still have been more practical for running an Empire to have a few ships that could do more and project power further, they fell prey to ego and so said "let's build a whole shit ton of humongous ships that can take and defend, at most, one planet at a time. And lets make one for every friggin planet in the galaxy."
Trent Baker Still. The USAF runs 3:1, the MC runs about 10/12:1. I understand having Pilots as Officers and shipboard division commanders but that ratio is still way off.
Scott M Warrant Officers might also be counted as officers. Pilots are typically officers, and many of the positions that involve operating advanced equipment more than likely used officers, as their higher education made them perfect candidates. Just my $0.02.
My personal favorite ship from the Star Wars Universe. Its just so iconic and is better than the Imperial-II in almost every way since it actually protected against fighters.
I'm a bit curious. A lot of the Star Wars analysis channels make a big deal of the "octuple Barbette turbolasers." I'm really curious why such a big deal is made about them being in a Barbette turret? They're an inferior turret type that wasn't used much in combat, and was totally superseded for the main armament of warships by fully enclosed and armored turrets. It almost seems to me that a lot of the channels are essentially parroting "barbette" because they don't grok that it just essentially means "turret." There is nothing special about a Barbette mount.
Yup. And I have no issue with people talking about a model/brand like the Oerlikon. (Or Bofors, etc) but It just kinda bugs me that so many Star Wars analysis channels mention that it is a Barbette. It would make sense if they then went on to say "And this is why they were vulnerable to star fighter attack" (Barbette mounts aren't armored all around) but nope, it is more like Namedropping.
Also here a good question, which would win the Venator class star carrier or the imperial class star destroyer, I always though it depended on the context like if the Venator had enough time to deploy it fighters before the imperial class came into range. But what do you think? I like to see the comments responses as well.
And yet...as impressive as it looks and the stats on paper, a group of starfighters can take one out in fairly short order. No matter what version, the point defense is awful. They need a major TIE fighter screen just to survive. Why, if the shields are so powerful, the shield generators, placed in a incredibly bad location to start with, can be taken out with a couple of shots from a fighter? It's the classic WWII analogy, when the aircraft carrier arrived, the era of battleship effectiveness narrowed greatly. It needed a fleet to provide some protection, the Empire seems not to want to work that way. When the B-17's first went out, we thought we didn't need fighter escort, we learned that the hard way. Over time, my opinion of the Imperial Star Destroyer has been getting lower and lower. Against similar ship classes, yes. Against the rest, no. On a separate note, another excellent video.
Its a little sad seeing these breakdowns of awesome warships and then seeing them in action where they can't hit a barn door, overtake a small freighter and blow up as soon as a rebel looks at them.
Spacedock love your work can you talk about how and perhaps if the lightspeed kamikaze in the last jedi couldve been used against the death star and if it has any prevalence in future battles as a legitimate tactic, or strategy. Personally I think that the strategy is too costly requiring not only a large ship but a huge core and hyperdrive, which i assume is not cheap. I personally am having this debate where people argue that the strategy changes warfare as ships will simply resort to this strategy everytime, but i contend that if a strategy such as this even tried again than it will ultimately change formations, doctrines, and manuevers to counter it. Ive never seen one brilliant scene cause so much ruckus
That strikecraft capacity compared to the size of the vessel is absolutely tiny. In comparison, the Gerald R Ford class holds 60, and it's miniscule compared to the size of the ISD-1 class, especially when most of the aircraft on a Gerald R Ford class are much larger than the TIE fighter and TIE Interceptor
Yeah, the ISD types of ships are a fair jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none ship but it is still more for intimidation than as an all out warship due to its rather exposed primary bridge tower and its knife silhouette. While successful it was still more useful in larger numbers as they have many weaknesses that can be easily capitalized by many pilots and these ships also rely heavily on their fighter compliment and supporting ships for sustained survivability.
Remember that the Rebel Alliance's Mon Calamari cruisers were the first real ships to pose a threat to an Imperial-I Class SD and the Rebel Alliance didn't have many of them. The Empire on the other hand fielded THOUSANDS of these. The Empire could afford to lose quite a few of them and still win pretty much every full-scale battle through numbers and firepower.
What always grinds my wheels is that it is called a destroyer but it is bigger than cruisers. Perhaps it sounded more menancing to GL but Cruiser, Destroyer, Deadnought progression hurts my marina heart.
Daehawk, When I play Empire At War, Forces of corruption, torpedoes and rail-guns pierce shields. 2 or more flights of bombers can reliably pop any sub-system on an enemy ship.
there was quite heated debates abouts that in the 90s with Curtis Saxton heavily vowing for sensor globes.. however since ROTJ Lucasfilm and all games and stuff regarded them as shield generators.. and Rogue One pretty much confirmed it
Some of it is actually leftover concept work from Ralph McQuarrie way back in the day. In his art, the lightsabers were pointy, and the character of Zeb is basically what Chewbacca almost looked like once upon a time.
Wait, the IMP-2 de-emphasized their point-defense loadout? Sound like Imperial shipworks hadn't yet caught on to the threat the Rebel Alliance's starfighters posed.
I've got a question. If in TLJ, the resistance ships can run out of fuel, so they have a limited amount of it, how could the Millennium falcon possibly have enough fuel to fly through real space for about one and a half months on the way to Bespin?
Chris sonofPear Ooh you got me there, I've heard it on a couple different RUclips channels like I think Star Wars Theory, in Videos about how much time Luke spent training on Degobah. They were like we know that it took the Falcon around one and a half months to get to Cloud City. I don't know where exactly it's from but I've heard it several times from pretty reliable RUclipsrs.
I love this ship but for the cost of 1 ISD you could have 3 venators and carry more Starfighters. But they don't align with the Garmin doctrine. Which might I add was most likely what killed the man who created it.
Wait they are supposed to have point defense weaponry? Don't they only have turbolasers? Theese things are mainly classified as anti capital ship weapons as far as I understand. Allways thought the TIE/ln's (and other TIE's) are it's defense against enemy fighters.
Light turbolasers and maybe a few other turrets provide a weak, partial screen. Empire apparently wanted to make turbos do double duty so as to cram more firepower in.
Okay that it is possible to shoot fighters with turbolasers i was aware. Just thought they would be terrible as dedicated AA which seems to be the case.
Rebels have a lot of blood on their hands because of how many destroyers they sink. I swear they blew up like 4 star destroyers in just a few episodes of season 4
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Just to clarify, those barbette turbolasers I mentioned when I talked about the ISD-2 seem to have sometimes been installed on ISD-1s, as we see them on the Chimera and some other ships in Star Wars Rebels. They can also be exchanged for Ion Cannons but i'll go into more detail on that when I get around to an ISD-2 video.
I can't wait to see more about the Imperial II class.
Please also do a video on the Arquitens class Light Cruiser
and the
Raider class Corvette
as well as the
Immobilizer Cruiser
Spacedock not realated but I recommend 40k thoies for anything pretaining to 40k stuff(srry for misspelleding phone and just woke up)
I somehow foresee a problem with having a huge lumbering vessel that sacrifices point defense weapons for a deadly but limited firing arc upfront. Seems to me like if an enemy starship approaches from any other angle than the front the Imperial II would be severely fucked since it cant bring its weapons to bear, making it suitable to taking out fixed or at least relatively immobile targets like stations, capital ships or planetary bases.
Spacedock so it can be either ion barbettes or turbolasers
Can you please do a video on the Husnock Warship from "Star Trek: The Next Generation" season 3 episode 3 "The Survivors?"
Husnock warships were large starships operated by a hostile now extinct species called the Husnock prior to 2366. This type of vessel was much larger than a Galaxy-class starship, capable of being seen from the surface while in orbit, and capable of destroying all life on a planet.
In 2366, a Husnock warship attacked and destroyed a Federation colony on Delta Rana IV. Unknown to the Husnock, an energy lifeform known as a Douwd was also living on the planet in the form of Kevin Uxbridge. In retaliation for the loss of his wife, who died in the Husnock attack, the Douwd used its enormous powers to completely destroy the entire Husnock race.
Following the Husnock attack, the USS Enterprise-D arrived to investigate finding all life destroyed except for a small patch of grass and a house within which lived the Douwd and his wife (who was really an illusion).
As the Enterprise crew grew more suspicious of Kevin, his wife, and the means by which they had survived, a warship appeared in orbit and attempted to drive the Enterprise away. The Enterprise crew initially believed this was the ship that had attacked the planet, but later discovered that the Douwd himself had created the warship to prevent them from learning the truth about his actions. (TNG: "The Survivors")
The recreated warship was a Husnock vessel, according to notes in the script, but whether or not the recreation was as or more powerful than the original remains unknown.
Recreated Husnock Warship:
First appearance:
"Look at the size of that!"
-Westly Crusher
In 2366, when the USS Enterprise-D was investigating the destruction of the Federation colony on Delta Rana IV, Kevin created this illusory warship in orbit of Delta Rana IV in an attempt to force the Enterprise-D to leave the planet, and his home. This class of warship wasn't listed in the Federation vehicle classification index, but at the time it was assumed to be the same Husnock warship which had previously attacked and obliterated the Delta Rana colony.
Initially this illusory vessel fired jacketed streams of positrons and antiprotons, an equivalent firepower of 40 megawatts, which caused no damage to the Enterprise-D. The Enterprise-D fired a warning shot at the ship, causing it to retreat from the system. The Enterprise-D attempted to pursue but was unable to close the gap between the two vessels, even after increasing velocity to Warp 9.37. (TNG: "The Survivors")
Second appearance:
"Is it my imagination? Or does it look a whole lot meaner this time?"
-William T. Riker
Video link: ruclips.net/video/BRubpYNDJuk/видео.html
Kevin made the ship reappear, some time after the Enterprise-D had returned to Rana IV. During its second appearance, the warship looked to the crew of the Enterprise-D to be much larger and much "meaner." Enterprise-D attempted to hail the ship to warn it to stay away from the planet.
In response, the ship fired four hundred gigawatts of particle energy at the Enterprise-D, causing only superficial damage to the ship, but effectively taking down its shields. A second shot took out the rest of the Enterprise-D's shields and caused thermal damage to the hull. Ship sensors, however, were able to determine that the warship was in possession of enormous energy reserves, capable of striking with far more powerful bursts.
Following the second attack, the ship moved into orbit of Rana IV and assumed a position over the Uxbridge residence. The Enterprise-D fired a full phaser and photon torpedo barrage at the ship, but caused no damage to the warship. It was then determined that the warship's defenses were able to absorb any incoming weapons fire. The warship returned fire, taking out the Enterprise-D's shields, weapon systems control, as well as causing some internal damage to the ship and non-fatal injuries to sixty-six members of the crew. (TNG: "The Survivors")
Third appearance:
When the Enterprise-D returned for a third time, Picard told Kevin that the Enterprise-D would stay in orbit to protect Kevin as long as the threat from the warship remained. Kevin had the warship appear for a third time. This time, the Enterprise-D kept its distance and allowed the warship to once again enter orbit over Rana IV - at which time it destroyed the Uxbridge residence. Following the attack, the Enterprise-D fired a single photon torpedo at the warship, destroying it.
Picard had determined that the warship was directly serving the needs of Kevin Uxbridge to bait and later chase the Enterprise-D away from the planet. Kevin Uxbridge confirmed the assumption, and indicated that he had tried the same diversionary tactics on the Husnock warship, also to no avail. (TNG: "The Survivors")
Background information:
The script notes for the episode indicate that the ship created by "Kevin" was a recreation of the Husnock warship that destroyed the colony. The Star Trek Encyclopedia (3rd ed., p. 199) as well as the Star Trek: The Next Generation Companion also support the supposition that this vessel was intended to be a Husnock ship.
The deflector shields of the ship had a similar segmented visual effect as the Borg drone shields of this era as they were depicted in TNG: "Q Who" for example.
Studio model:
This vessel was designed and built by Tony Meininger. According to the Star Trek: The Next Generation Companion (3rd ed., page 103), "The Husnock warship, built by Tony Meininger, was one of the first not designed by a member of the TNG art staff. 'Usually there just isn't time to put into designing them if they're just a 'ship-of-the-week' that's going to be re-dressed later anyway,' said Rick Sternbach, adding that decisions on re-use are made by the alternating TNG visual-effects teams headed by Dan Curry and Rob Legato and their model contractors." It was Meininger's first involvement with the Star Trek franchise (and his only one for TNG, albeit as an outside contractor), before moving on to become the main supplier of studio models for televised Star Trek starting with DS9: "Emissary"
In this episode, the model of the ship was modified slightly for the second appearance: one weapon's spike was added to the underside of the ship, so the ship did look "meaner" the second time.
I can tell a video is good when both Eckhart and Templin send folks over. Really nice to see three awesome channels with such a rad bromance
The Imperial Star Destroyer. Also known by such names as “OH CRAP, IT’S HUGE!”, “EVERYBODY RUN, IT’S HERE!” and “I DON’T WANT TO DIE!”.
Dislikes are from GR-75s
Hate how high the command tower are in rebels, but I adore them in everything else.
They're based on Ralph McQuarrie concept art. I don't like them either.
Erndem Sterff Prederctions Ralph McQuarrie was the man and all, but they suck his dick way too much on Rebels.
ya i dont like it as well
Rebels ISD - the tall boi
If it makes feel better the clone wars style imperial 1 class Star destroyer has appeared in bad batch and tails of the empire and it looks so much better
I have transferred here from Outpost Eckhart’s Ladder. My commanding officer has high standards for you. Let’s see if you meet them.
That’s just my way of saying that EckhartsLadder brought me here. I love this channel already!
Same
The Alliance is growing...
i always find it odd that the official specs for these ships show them as having hundreds of guns, but we only ever see perhaps a dozen of them on screen (and that's typically generous).
Erik Jochums I thought the same with the Venators from the Clone Wars. Sources say they can carry 1,000 fighters, but they're far to small to be able to do that, and such a feat has never come close to being shown in any Star Wars media. The CIS carrying 1,000 droid fighters makes much more sense given its size.
60 XX-9 turbolasers, like seen on the Death Star, running along trenches and upper and lower hull, on ISD mk II at least. A lot are seen in the Legends Mandatory Retirement comic book. Several of the games have them too, like the newest Battlefront, and the ancient Rebel Assault (1) game.
Official sources also say there's 80 fighters, multiple pre-fabricated ground bases and 10,000 crew while saying it's only a mile long.
They just pull numbers from nowhere
Why does Star Wars: Rebels ISDs have a much more exagerated neck supporting the bridge?
I mean, thats the most obvious thing. If I start pointing out the rest we are gonna be here for a while...
Style choice. Rebels bases much of its style on the old concept art and early Star Wars toy lines. (Hence why the TIEs have longer struts in the show than the movies. The ISDs are just an expamle of this.
Disney also wants u 2 pretend it's the same class when clearly it isn't.
Despite being “style choice”, it screams “shoot me right here and now 2.0” so much that it looks far dumber that the style the movies went with-and the original design was already dumb enough by having an exposed bridge in the first place.
Alex Russet it’s a terrible example of stylism. “Let’s take abandoned concept art, art that was deemed not good enough yet to make it into Star Wars in general, and lets make the whole show look like that”. In truth it just looks terrible, not just designs but the animation in general. Every thing is flat and sometimes there’s too much out-of-place color and stuff. Nothing, not even the characters themselves not to mention the settings, have any personality or tactility. In the end, the decision on the animation and designs feels like it was made more to emphasize the kiddie nature of the show than to pay homage to McQuarrie.
It's not an Imperial-1 class, it's a Giraffe class Star Destroyer.
The Rebel ones look so weird with the long necks
One of the reasons I can't watch rebels is because everything looks really weird.
Welcome to rebels they like to make everything look weird and disfigured.
Rageoholic Sr Not everything , lightsaber , TIE fighter and Star destroyers look diffrent that's it.
prince Teclis Vader, Storm troopers... Even just random people look weird.
The art design is based on the concept art for A New Hope.
the Star Destroyers in Rebels make me think of them as giraffes. The tower is is too tall. Also, the ship shown first in the video has a face between the shield domes.
NightRaven 1901 Never noticed that until this video. But now I don't think I can miss it.
Really wanted Rebels to add Victory Class ships.
Siggy Reagan The long neck is the death sentence of a Destroyer in the most recent Rebels episode. When an Arquitens Light Cruiser crashes into it.
NightRaven 1901 This is why I love the Galactica design. It's bridge is deep under the hull plating and completely protected from any avenue of attack (Except for boarding parties) but it's hard to board something that has a flak barrier.
NightRaven 1901 Star Trek Beyond introduced this obvious weakness to canon. I always thought that the Thin sections of Starfleet vessels had extra structural integrity and shielding to prevent.... Exactly what happened in Star Trek Beyond.
Now with Beyond logic the Klingons can easily destroy the non canon USS Discovery by targeting the support beams that connect the Bridge Sphere to the rest of the ship.
"The institute sends it's regards"
The Imperial 2 bugs me, in that is places such a heavy emphasis on large scale heavy cannons for engaging other capitol ships, yet when these ships were coming into service there was no other faction in the galaxy with sufficient numbers and size of warships to justify this kind of loadout, the Rebellion for example being reliant on far smaller vessels that rarely went above frigate sized. Also, given the Rebellion's strong reliance on strike craft, the removal of most of the Imperial 2's point defences, especially in light of how pathetic the standard TIE fighter is... well, The Empire frequently seems like its own worst enemy.
I remember hearing someone said the idea is that the Imperial Navy would relegate anti-starfighter duties to other specialized ships, with the imperial 2 focus in engaging enemies capital ship. This is motivated by the appearances of more advance Mon-Calamari ships.
In Legends, the Imperial Navy created the Carrick class corvette, as a direct response to the Rebllion' starfighters, but why even get to that stage, surely someone had to have realised that massive flaw in the Imperial 2.
I can think of two reasons: Tarkin doctrine and dysfunctional high command.
weldonwin that's always bugged me too and increasingly more as time goes on. We see time and again that small strike craft are the true power in the galaxy. From Luke blasting storm troopers through the death stars hull to Po utterly crippling a dreadnought (not to mention it goes down with one bomber) the fact the Empire and first order don't seem to see the value of fighters has always flummoxed me. Hell, carriers are the true naval powers in real life too. We figured out in WW2 that the carrier is far more effective than the dreadnought. Imagine how different the story would go without the Tarkin Doctrine.
the imperial military is designed more as a terror weapon/police force than an actual military
Was not mentioned that it also featured a bridge perched on top of the ship to allow enemy ships to more accurately target the command center. A very vital feature that proved to absolutely not be a vulnerability time and again
It's odd that the Imperial-II had less point defense than the Imperial-I. The Rebels heavily used fighters, corvettes, and gunship-like ships in their attacks. And after the first Death Star, you would think the Empire would have learned.
Jacob Clark Given that they immediately started building another Death Star, apparently not.
Jacob Clark they did learn, that's why they increased the amount if TIE/IN Interceptors carried on Star Destroyers
That isn't really clear Cailus whether the 2nd Death Star was built to replace the loss of the first or if it was always intended for the Empire to roll out a series of Death Stars in order to fortify its grasp on the galaxy. I have heard or read both versions.
They specialized in what they did well. Battleships need screening vessels. This one had escorts in addition to legions of fighters aboard
Trent Baker True enough. Personally I’ve always doubted the idea that Palpy wanted multiple Death Stars, given how insanely powerful they were. Simply having one would fulfill the intended goal, while having two invites the risk of the Death Stars being used against each other, or having one of them stolen by rebels or some ambitious Moff.
Love the Star Destroyer.
Imperial Star Destroyers are awesome !
"Star Destroyer reporting in!"
One of my favorite parts of the ship is the prefab base it holds. Dropping a division's worth of troops and a FOB to go with them is awesome.
This is the earliest I've ever cought one of your videos. It's good.
You know it’s a good day when space dock uploads
This is and has always been my favorite star ship of any faction, time period or sci fi universe
9 700 Storm Troopers and any dudes in "SW: Rebels" go in and out like it's a grocery store:D
@Gaius Wyrden the only thing saving that series is Ashoka and her duel with Vader...the rest is just...yeah...
my favorite ship in star wars
Good way to start off year 4 of your channel with the legendary Imperial Star Destroyer of Star Wars fame.
Hyzzah! My favourite ships have the spotlight. I love the ISD I and II so much.
Thank you for making this channel. Spacecraft are one of my favourite aspects of sci-fi, and you do such a good job..
Remember Spacedock, make sure to do more (Legends) content. We all need more of that.
Thank you for making a video on my favorite spaceship of all time. I believe the the Imperial-I is the better of the two Star Destroyer variants. Considering, the Rebellion was ramping up just as the Imperial-II was phased into service, I think the Imperial-II was a major strategic blunder on the part of the Empire, the main threat to the Empire being small maneuverable fighters. However we see, that inspite of the destruction of the first Death Star at the hands of snub-fighters, the bureaucratic lack of learning from mistakes, cost the empire heavily during the Battle of Endor, when the Second Death Star was again destroyed by the lack of protection against the enemies preferred method of attack. Hubris, played a major hand in the destruction of both the Empire and indeed the Emperor.
It’s been too long to see this video, but it has been well worth the wait!
For every four member of staff and stormtroopers there's an officer? Grossly inefficient upper management on these ships, are the officers not capable of taking on a little further responsibility? This is why the Empire fell...
Total lack of faith in or lack of NCO’s and SNCO’s.
Going by hints in Thrawn, that figure is probably inflated by counting an admiral and a squadron's/fleet's staff officers. Also capital ships were the best place to be posted for your career advancement, so you could also handwave it as ISDs being used almost as "finishing schools" for junior officers.
(I'm not disagreeing that it's a weird ratio, I'm just suggesting how we can justify it)
It could also be because of lack of stormtroopers onboard (outside of ground invasion situations) or perhaps officers were given roles that could normally be done by lower ranks. Which would also compliment S Candors version of ISDs being academy graduates first choices.
Maybe empire had so many officers there was actually lack of lower managment :) similar to how in modern countries there is a large number of university graduates who have troubles finding jobs suitable for their degrees.
It could be that they wanted insane amounts of people to die when one of these over sized cheese wedges gets destroyed. I mean, fuck, in Rogue One, just the 2 of them colliding just took out nearly 70,000 people!!! Then the death star blows up, killing over a million. They just hate themselves.
It was an empire known for conscripting its troops. In most conscription based militaries, officers do a greater share of the lower work since the conscripts aren’t as well trained as an all volunteer force.
Excellent video! I’ve been waiting on a video on the star destroyer for a while!
The ISD-I/II's might have made sense if we saw on-screen that the Empire used an extensive fleet of support ships, especially ones mentioned in legends.
They use many light cruisers, quiazars, transports, victory class, oninager class, secutor class, raider class, interdictor, and Tector class watch Star wars squadrons that is how the empire operates in the movies it's mostly death squadron which doesn't use many support ships while a new hope rouge One and solo don't operate with needed support ships Endor did include 4 Tectors and 4 interdictors while empire include 6 imperial transports to unload the walkers
Kick Ass Episode SpaceDock !
I've always loved your videos I couldn't wait for the start destroyer one, you're vocabulary choice is phenomenal, I feel like I get more information from you then the source material
Nice touch with KOTOR 2 music
1:13 in this point of view, the star destroyer looks like the ww2 german warships like the Admiral graf spee, Bismarck or Tirpizt.
Great ship.
Finally, a video on this ship.
Wow what an amazing ship! Surely you would need many ships to take these dow- Oh Aladdin just said a one liner and blew one up.. Well never mind
Just look at the small GR-75 that crashes into Vaders Star Deastroyer in Rogue One.
They had no chance.
Say what you will about their lack of point defense, give these things a few escorts to screen fighters while the Imperial focuses on the big ships and they do very well.
You can put 20 escort ships in and one A-wing can still take out a Super Star Detroyer. Total crap design.
The problem was the fact that they didn't use escorts as much as they should've. From what I can see, it wasn't uncommon for star destroyers to operate in groups, but those groups rarely had anything other than star destroyers. Hell, sometimes the destroyers operated completely alone. ALONE!
Just take a look at Scarif. Its defense fleet was made up entirely of star destroyers! Not a SINGLE escort.
The Empire's attitude equated to- See a problem? Throw star destroyers at it!
They had escort ships, they just never bloody used them!
The imperial 1 actually contains point defence turrets, surprisingly
why the bridge so high god damn
U nu 2 SW. It's 2 show how arrogant the Empire is.
Because the rebels art team decided it would look cool...for some reason.
Fuck you Pete you don't know what I've been through
The entire Rebels art style is meant to have a "Ralph mcquarrie concept art" look to it(a consequence of this is many things are longer and thinner, such as TIE Fighter struts).
Example: starwarsblog.starwars.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2014/01/30-Assault_inverted.png
So they have the high ground.
Vader never got over that....
+Spacedock Have you thought of covering the Nebula-class or Pellaeon-class Star Destroyer?
My personal favorite star destroyer class right here :)
Thanks for the content.
The reason the bridge is so high is because they will always have
the high ground.
Vader never got over that.....
Great video and greetings from the Templin Institute.
The institute sent me
Can we see more Warhammer 40k break-downs? Those you have already are excellent, but - as an avid 40k fan - any more from you would be amazing. Your channel delivers a crisp, refined, and succinct style which i've not seen anywhere else.
Possible ideas for 40k craft: Space Marine Dreadnoughts (not a starship, i know, but you also covered the Rhino), Eldar Wave Serpents, or any vessel of the Imperial Navy (I personally recommend something like a Sword-Class Frigate).
Nice video as always
2:56 AMAZING STELLARIS MOD XD
Ahh, what a sight to behold.
Why didn't the Frist order just use some of the 25,000 star destroyers left over from the empire? Because plot, and merchandising.
Martis Endrell In the books they do. They still use imperial class 1s & 2s. Probably wont c them in the movies because they don't want to confuse fans.
Mr.Pete-8680 Reviews yeah, they certainly don’t want to confuse them between buying the older models instead of the newer, more expensive ones.
Love using these in Empire at War, though they cannot venture forth without escort, lest they invite disaster from a swarm of nimble rebel warships...
(0:16) (1:49) You forgot to mention that the specialized "long necked" bridge support variants of the ISD-1 were created so that captains behind the front line of a large assault group could see what was happening further ahead. However, while it did provide a slightly better tactical advantage in large engagements, many "long necked" captains were teased by their contemporaries because it made their ships appear to have a "startled" or "surprised" appearance.
All in good fun! ;) :P Thank you for this short look at one of my favorite ships! :)
Oh good grief...
The Chimera in Rebels is an Imperial I but it stands to reason when Grand Admiral Thrawn transfers his flag to a newer Imperial II he can commission the ship as the Chimera again.
Couldn’t hit the like button fast enough
I'm surprised you haven't done this yet.
Just googled star destroyer cutout to see where they store ground forces, turns out the thing on top of the bridge of the ISD-I is laid down flat on top of the Executor(?) bridge. At least, something very similar is visible on a cutout of what I think might be the executor bridge, with one of those shield generator spheres depicted as blown up.
It's a communications and tractor-beam targeting tower.
Aha, cheers! I like these details.
The same tower appears on both models, just rotated 90 degrees.
Request: Do one on the Vengeance-class dreadnought
You see, this is why I'm a SW fan. For all the fantasy goof their world still feels so real and alive.
The GAR mainline ships had to be versatile during the war because the Republic got caught with its pants down (allegedly) when the war started and so they had to make each ship count. But when the Republic became the Empire, not only did they have the luxury of time to build an infinite fleet but they had the entire galaxy's worth of resources and manpower and so could afford to spend extra. In summary, even though it would still have been more practical for running an Empire to have a few ships that could do more and project power further, they fell prey to ego and so said "let's build a whole shit ton of humongous ships that can take and defend, at most, one planet at a time. And lets make one for every friggin planet in the galaxy."
That officer to enlisted ratio is ridiculous.
Well you have to remember that would include everyone from the ensigns up to the ships commander.
Trent Baker Still. The USAF runs 3:1, the MC runs about 10/12:1. I understand having Pilots as Officers and shipboard division commanders but that ratio is still way off.
Only way I can see that ratio to be the case is that uncomissioned officers are counted as proper officers.
Scott M
Warrant Officers might also be counted as officers. Pilots are typically officers, and many of the positions that involve operating advanced equipment more than likely used officers, as their higher education made them perfect candidates.
Just my $0.02.
Now I’m gonna have to make a T/O chart of a ISD crew.
My personal favorite ship from the Star Wars Universe. Its just so iconic and is better than the Imperial-II in almost every way since it actually protected against fighters.
I'm a bit curious. A lot of the Star Wars analysis channels make a big deal of the "octuple Barbette turbolasers." I'm really curious why such a big deal is made about them being in a Barbette turret? They're an inferior turret type that wasn't used much in combat, and was totally superseded for the main armament of warships by fully enclosed and armored turrets.
It almost seems to me that a lot of the channels are essentially parroting "barbette" because they don't grok that it just essentially means "turret." There is nothing special about a Barbette mount.
It resembles an old Oerlikon anti-aircraft battery in many ways.
Yup. And I have no issue with people talking about a model/brand like the Oerlikon. (Or Bofors, etc) but It just kinda bugs me that so many Star Wars analysis channels mention that it is a Barbette.
It would make sense if they then went on to say "And this is why they were vulnerable to star fighter attack" (Barbette mounts aren't armored all around) but nope, it is more like Namedropping.
EckhartsLadder brought me NO REGRETS!
Also here a good question, which would win the Venator class star carrier or the imperial class star destroyer, I always though it depended on the context like if the Venator had enough time to deploy it fighters before the imperial class came into range. But what do you think? I like to see the comments responses as well.
And yet...as impressive as it looks and the stats on paper, a group of starfighters can take one out in fairly short order.
No matter what version, the point defense is awful. They need a major TIE fighter screen just to survive.
Why, if the shields are so powerful, the shield generators, placed in a incredibly bad location to start with, can be taken out
with a couple of shots from a fighter?
It's the classic WWII analogy, when the aircraft carrier arrived, the era of battleship effectiveness narrowed greatly.
It needed a fleet to provide some protection, the Empire seems not to want to work that way.
When the B-17's first went out, we thought we didn't need fighter escort, we learned that the hard way.
Over time, my opinion of the Imperial Star Destroyer has been getting lower and lower.
Against similar ship classes, yes. Against the rest, no.
On a separate note, another excellent video.
That's provided the globes ARE the shield generators. Lucasfilm VFX teams assumed they were radar domes in the 80s.
Spacedock: Can you do a video about the Mon Calamari MC-80, next. ☺
The logistics must be a nightmare for Empire. Some really fancy AIs to keep their navy running.
Can you do a video on a Earth Alliance explorer class ship? Babylon 5
Thanks
Its a little sad seeing these breakdowns of awesome warships and then seeing them in action where they can't hit a barn door, overtake a small freighter and blow up as soon as a rebel looks at them.
Spacedock love your work can you talk about how and perhaps if the lightspeed kamikaze in the last jedi couldve been used against the death star and if it has any prevalence in future battles as a legitimate tactic, or strategy. Personally I think that the strategy is too costly requiring not only a large ship but a huge core and hyperdrive, which i assume is not cheap. I personally am having this debate where people argue that the strategy changes warfare as ships will simply resort to this strategy everytime, but i contend that if a strategy such as this even tried again than it will ultimately change formations, doctrines, and manuevers to counter it. Ive never seen one brilliant scene cause so much ruckus
Could you do a Resurgent vs Imperial II?
Star Destroyer looks like it's wearing a hat in that first pic
That strikecraft capacity compared to the size of the vessel is absolutely tiny. In comparison, the Gerald R Ford class holds 60, and it's miniscule compared to the size of the ISD-1 class, especially when most of the aircraft on a Gerald R Ford class are much larger than the TIE fighter and TIE Interceptor
Yeah, the ISD types of ships are a fair jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none ship but it is still more for intimidation than as an all out warship due to its rather exposed primary bridge tower and its knife silhouette. While successful it was still more useful in larger numbers as they have many weaknesses that can be easily capitalized by many pilots and these ships also rely heavily on their fighter compliment and supporting ships for sustained survivability.
The Harrower Star Destroyer from SWTOR is the best looking Imp Star Destroyer
I find the lack of Imperial I class star destroyer images on Google disturbing.
I would like to see you do a video on the R-9A Arrowhead from the R-Type series please.
What is the thing beside the shields
Remember that the Rebel Alliance's Mon Calamari cruisers were the first real ships to pose a threat to an Imperial-I Class SD and the Rebel Alliance didn't have many of them. The Empire on the other hand fielded THOUSANDS of these. The Empire could afford to lose quite a few of them and still win pretty much every full-scale battle through numbers and firepower.
Mon Cala maybe had 30-60 heavy cruiser ships with the Alliance, using some loose Legend numbers. In Canon, no idea yet.
I'm still waiting for the viscount video
Yassss IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SHIT!!!
Slam a hyperspace X-wing into it. TJA taught us that much
What always grinds my wheels is that it is called a destroyer but it is bigger than cruisers. Perhaps it sounded more menancing to GL but Cruiser, Destroyer, Deadnought progression hurts my marina heart.
Better add some Star Battlecruisers then...
And yet they stuck the shield generators up top where they can be popped.
Daehawk, When I play Empire At War, Forces of corruption, torpedoes and rail-guns pierce shields. 2 or more flights of bombers can reliably pop any sub-system on an enemy ship.
In all design blueprints for the movie, they were labeled as long range sensors.
Radar globes were how the VFX teams labelled them.
there was quite heated debates abouts that in the 90s with Curtis Saxton heavily vowing for sensor globes.. however since ROTJ Lucasfilm and all games and stuff regarded them as shield generators.. and Rogue One pretty much confirmed it
I wonder what those Star destroyer are waiting for.
Han mentioned local bulk cruisers anyone know what ship he was referring to????????
Do you think you'll analyze the Star Fortress bomber from Last Jedi?
The fuck is up with rebels design, they’ve ruined so much iconic ships and characters
Some of it is actually leftover concept work from Ralph McQuarrie way back in the day. In his art, the lightsabers were pointy, and the character of Zeb is basically what Chewbacca almost looked like once upon a time.
Wait, the IMP-2 de-emphasized their point-defense loadout? Sound like Imperial shipworks hadn't yet caught on to the threat the Rebel Alliance's starfighters posed.
could you please do the Or'es El'leath (Custodian)-class Battleship from Warhammer 40k?
AH YES THE CLASSICALS
finally an imperial class, how about interdictor or gladiator class?
I've got a question. If in TLJ, the resistance ships can run out of fuel, so they have a limited amount of it, how could the Millennium falcon possibly have enough fuel to fly through real space for about one and a half months on the way to Bespin?
I assume it must have used a backup hyperdrive, or Anoat is much closer than usual.
Source on the 'and a half month' figure?
Chris sonofPear Ooh you got me there, I've heard it on a couple different RUclips channels like I think Star Wars Theory, in Videos about how much time Luke spent training on Degobah. They were like we know that it took the Falcon around one and a half months to get to Cloud City. I don't know where exactly it's from but I've heard it several times from pretty reliable RUclipsrs.
Chris sonofPear Those channels also said that the Falcon did actually travel through real space...
Bro why is the tower in the first image from rebels so big. In the next shot of it in rouge one it’s normal
I love this ship but for the cost of 1 ISD you could have 3 venators and carry more Starfighters. But they don't align with the Garmin doctrine. Which might I add was most likely what killed the man who created it.
You still doing Priority Requests for Patrons?
Wait they are supposed to have point defense weaponry? Don't they only have turbolasers? Theese things are mainly classified as anti capital ship weapons as far as I understand. Allways thought the TIE/ln's (and other TIE's) are it's defense against enemy fighters.
Light turbolasers and maybe a few other turrets provide a weak, partial screen. Empire apparently wanted to make turbos do double duty so as to cram more firepower in.
Okay that it is possible to shoot fighters with turbolasers i was aware. Just thought they would be terrible as dedicated AA which seems to be the case.
Can you make one on the Interdictor-Class Cruiser from the Darth Revan era?
Rebels have a lot of blood on their hands because of how many destroyers they sink. I swear they blew up like 4 star destroyers in just a few episodes of season 4
The only things Rebels has given me is Thrawn, Tie Defender and the Interdictor sd