This explained exactly what I was looking for. It looks like something I'd like to learn more about since I'm learning watercolor painting but I sure like the gouache painting since I now see what you can do with it. Thanks for sharing this Hajra! Inspiring lady you are.... ~ Regards, Karla
thanks so much, sweetie--glad you think this oldie is a goldie. :) p.s. just FYI, I made a hangouts chat with just you, kat, and dalia, though of course solo emails still work great, too. Hope you are well.
Thank you, and I subscribed! You provided more help in minutes than hours of watching people paint even though I love that too! I would love to see more instructional videos like this and painting as your brilliant and super easy to understand and follow.
Erin S. You're very welcome, you sweet, sweet thing, you! I've come from a background of teaching at a university, so it's been wonderful to find a new outlet to teach and share. I hope to make more videos for appreciative subscribers like you and look forward to your input!
Hajra Meeks oh then i now understand why i m way more able to follow and use your videos. As i m gifted ( high IQ) i have trouble understanding if it s explained or if teaching is to easy or doesn t have any harder stuff where my mind have to act on their best to understand follow and act after explaining things i need to learn or have a need to know more. thank you!
Great job on the explanation of the different types of under painting techniques! It was an extremely helpful to see the comparison among them. I wish I had found this video sooner!
Thanks so much, glad you found this useful! It's one of my oldie vids, but it's a goldie--lots of folks don't know anything about grisaille and underpaintings. :)
I was so happy that Steve from "The Mind of Watercolor", along with his friend Marty, introduced you in his livestream last night. I thoroughly enjoyed it, and wanted to visit your channel today! This video alone has so very much information in it. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge with all of us! Take Care!
Yes, it was so much fun talking with those two sweet men last night, glad you enjoyed it. This is one of my favorite videos, and I really wanted to show this info clearly to folks interested in painting values--a value underpainting is very helpful sometimes! You're very welcome, and you take care, too! :D
Do this with my digi's, usually never with traditional paints. I like how you can handle value and color completely differently at different times, it helps me from gettin mixed up of overwhelmed. Especially with really complex compositions.
I'm fairly new to watercolor and I found this extremely helpful. I've seen other artists use this method, but they never explained the why or the how. I think they may have done it without knowing there was a name for the technique and they weren't sure how to explain it. My favorites are the complementary color, the watercolor grisaille, the shadow mix, and ink grisaille.
Holli Sisson Yes, grisaille is rarely formally taught anymore, but so useful for more complicated or rendered paintings, and well worth knowing. I think I have the same favorites! :)
Thank you thank you thank you so much I cannot thank you enough and God bless I never understood or actually got shadowing with painting and I think it finally clicked for me no I love you so much for this LOL!!
You're very, very welcome Jaclyn, so happy to help--it really was an awesome *click* moment to find out about grisaille for me, and I'm happy to share it with others! God bless you, too! :D
I am learning everything I can about values and underpaintings right now, (before now, it was always just called "shading, lol) and I have done two of these examples without foreknowledge. I am a beginning artist and this video is informative and to e, super fun. I love the history, and the experimentation as well. Thanks so much. I watch you all t he time and can appreciate your hard work and knowledge.
You're so very welcome, so glad you are learning about grisaille and it is so sweet of you to appreciate my info and efforts! Wishing you epic painting adventures!
Saw you on the live broadcast with Marty & Steve .... have just subscribed to your channel and will make use of it again and again. Thank you for explaining all the techniques, effects etc etc so clearly ... you will become one of my favourite reference 'books' :)
I have just come across your videos and I have to say thank you for your fabulous, informative instructions. You are an amazing instructor! I have subscribed!
How lovely of you to say that, and it is very much appreciated. Delighted to have you as a new subscriber, and wishing you your own epic art adventures!
Thank you very much for taking the time to post these videos :) I was going to ask if I could use my own mixed gray for the grisaille in watercolors, but my question was answered in this wonderful lesson. Thanks again, and happy painting!
Besides being very instructional, and the fact that I learned a lot from this, I find your voice very soothing :D it had been a tough day before this, thank you!
Have fun--I have a whole Grisaille underpainting videos playlist on my channel! I also recently taught live grisaille art classes for SCAL, and will probably be doing a few more.
this video was amazingly informative and awesome. subscribing because i love the scientific method approach you take to showing us variants and contrasts between different techniques. you are awesome! I thought i was proficient in paints but i am learning alot from you :)
cromcam you're very welcome. Yes, using too much water is the most common problem in all the students I've ever taught. Keep trying, and I'm sure you'll do marvelous things. :) Happy Painting!
+Gerardo Justel You're very welcome, and sorry for the late response, i must have missed your comment. Skin tones are often under-painted in browns or warm yellows. Some of my videos I cover underpainting a human subject, which includes skin, one video demo shows a brown underpainting, while the other demo shows yellow underpainting: ruclips.net/video/MzwnP8AyX9w/видео.html ruclips.net/video/ctZKBqXmIXU/видео.html ruclips.net/video/kNL8v6oZDrw/видео.html
+RoxasLov3r4Ev3r Skin tones are often under-painted in browns or warm yellows. Some of my videos I cover underpainting a human subject, which includes skin, one video demo shows a brown underpainting, while the other demo shows yellow underpainting: ruclips.net/video/MzwnP8AyX9w/видео.html ruclips.net/video/ctZKBqXmIXU/видео.html ruclips.net/video/kNL8v6oZDrw/видео.html
Well with the leafs... The one with the yellow underpainting looks more realistic but I prefer the brunaille one as the brown got a redish tint which is the complementary of green... But I really really learn something and I will think about it, try it, and... Maybe trying to use different colors on underpainting but not by mixing them to a grey. And for a skin tone I would rather use a blue, green-blue, purple undertone as it's... Complementary. I'm biased my brain loves complementary even when it's not realistic (as with the leaf) or blended. Just... Complementary. The more they appear the more I like it (on your flower the green seems a little weak no compared to the red no ?). But well... A mind blowing technique I have to admit... All the open doors now !
I love how synthetic and professional your videos are! Thank you for sharing! May I ask a bit of advice? I want to make a gouache painting of a green skin monster lit just by a warm light, like a lantern; what kind of grisaille would you suggest? Thabk you for your time (:
+Stefano Carlo Italiani (xStefCR) no problem. probably a greyish purple would work well as purple and green are could shadow colors for each other. meter the warmth or coolness of the purple according to your lighting needs. good luck!
+Shelly Parchman You're welcome! And yes, grisaille can be used in any medium that allows for layers and glazes, including watercolor, gouache, oil, and acrylic.
Thank you, this was a really great video (I was searching for information on colored pencil glazing and this came up, yay!) Do you recall if you were using watercolor from a watercolor pencil or actual watercolor paint from a tube or pan for the top layer for your final glazing? Thank you so much!
You're very welcome. :D I used watercolor paint from a pan over top for all these, but it should behave the same way for wc pencil glazing over a grisaille underpainting.
Thank you so much! I can't tell you how excited I got when I saw your video! It really propelled me forward in knowing where I needed to go next, and it gave me lots of energy to keep pushing on!
I mix my gray using primary colors. I own a paynes gray, but I only use it if I want to use it by itself to do a study or a particular gray color scheme, and not with other bright colors. Mixing your grays from the colors you are using for the painting looks the most harmonious.
Yes, you absolutely can. Just some inks don't layer as well under watercolors as they have a water-resistant "skin" that makes them permanent (unlike watercolor) but also makes watercolors bead up on them somewhat. It depends on what brand and what type of ink you have--You can paint a long swatch of your ink on some paper and paint swatches of watercolors over it and see how they layer. If the watercolor beads up, try a thinner layer of the ink. You can also try another ink or inktense blocks, which layer pretty well, or just a staining watercolor color (like indigo or phthalo blue or sepia) which will behave like an ink but since it's watercolor it has no resistant skin.
hey, can't tell if my initial response went through or not, so I'll resend--these leaves were drawn in my art journal from a reference ink drawing from a copyright free collection of old ink images printed by Dover. Blessings back, and hope that helps! :D
PatchworkHeart Well, for a gouache painting, you would usually do a gouache grisaille, like the one I did in my leaf video ( ruclips.net/video/gnFTfmCexBM/видео.html ) or in my wc vs gouache comparison painting on the gouache side ( ruclips.net/video/MzwnP8AyX9w/видео.html ).You could also do an ink grisaille for a gouache painting, however, it will not blend edges with layers over it as easily as ink is permanent, but you might like that for some pieces.
Hajra, thank you so much for making your videos I was particularly drawn to the grisaille video, and I love that you step out of the box and use this in different media other than oil. I subscribed to your channel and I hope you will subscribe to mine. Looking forward to more of your videos.
nah, neutral tint would be considered one of the traditional grisaille ("the grey") value colors, along with colors like paynes grey. What I meant by "shadow mix" was a mixture of 3 colors from a triad to form a shadow neutral like mixes from red+yellow+blue or orange+green+violet, etc.
Love your channel. I was ready to throw my paint box across the room until I found your channel!
LOL...lovely to hear that. Glad I saved that paint box from being tossed across the room--I've done that before myself!
This explained exactly what I was looking for. It looks like something I'd like to learn more about since I'm learning watercolor painting but I sure like the gouache painting since I now see what you can do with it. Thanks for sharing this Hajra! Inspiring lady you are.... ~ Regards, Karla
Karla Smith Thanks so much for your sweet comments, Karla! Nice people like you keep me motivated to make more videos.
I learnt more about shadowing from this video than from 2 yrs of studies. Thank you so much.
So delighted and flattered to hear it. Epic art adventures to you! :D
Best grisaille demo I've seen. I always revisit this tutorial when using this method in a painting.
thanks so much, sweetie--glad you think this oldie is a goldie. :) p.s. just FYI, I made a hangouts chat with just you, kat, and dalia, though of course solo emails still work great, too. Hope you are well.
Fantastic demo and tutorial thanks!
The Mind of Watercolor You're welcome, and appreciate it coming from a fellow artist! Love your Obi-wan demo.
Hajra Meeks Thanks for taking the time to look.
Thanks for sharing. I've used this method for my watercolor baby portraits and flowers for years but forgot what it was called. Thanks again.
Thank you, and I subscribed! You provided more help in minutes than hours of watching people paint even though I love that too! I would love to see more instructional videos like this and painting as your brilliant and super easy to understand and follow.
Erin S. You're very welcome, you sweet, sweet thing, you! I've come from a background of teaching at a university, so it's been wonderful to find a new outlet to teach and share. I hope to make more videos for appreciative subscribers like you and look forward to your input!
Hajra Meeks oh then i now understand why i m way more able to follow and use your videos. As i m gifted ( high IQ) i have trouble understanding if it s explained or if teaching is to easy or doesn t have any harder stuff where my mind have to act on their best to understand follow and act after explaining things i need to learn or have a need to know more. thank you!
you're very welcome, happy to help, as different things work for different people. :)
Great job on the explanation of the different types of under painting techniques! It was an extremely helpful to see the comparison among them. I wish I had found this video sooner!
Thanks so much, glad you found this useful! It's one of my oldie vids, but it's a goldie--lots of folks don't know anything about grisaille and underpaintings. :)
I was so happy that Steve from "The Mind of Watercolor", along with his friend Marty, introduced you in his livestream last night. I thoroughly enjoyed it, and wanted to visit your channel today! This video alone has so very much information in it. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge with all of us! Take Care!
Yes, it was so much fun talking with those two sweet men last night, glad you enjoyed it. This is one of my favorite videos, and I really wanted to show this info clearly to folks interested in painting values--a value underpainting is very helpful sometimes! You're very welcome, and you take care, too! :D
I think you just changed my life!
XD XD Very kind of you! Grisaille IS super awesome though. :D
Do this with my digi's, usually never with traditional paints. I like how you can handle value and color completely differently at different times, it helps me from gettin mixed up of overwhelmed. Especially with really complex compositions.
yes, exactly! Separating color and value, especially for complicated subjects is a Godsend!
Excellent demo! thank-you so much !
+Garrett Bouslough You're very welcome, Garett!
I'm fairly new to watercolor and I found this extremely helpful. I've seen other artists use this method, but they never explained the why or the how. I think they may have done it without knowing there was a name for the technique and they weren't sure how to explain it.
My favorites are the complementary color, the watercolor grisaille, the shadow mix, and ink grisaille.
Holli Sisson Yes, grisaille is rarely formally taught anymore, but so useful for more complicated or rendered paintings, and well worth knowing. I think I have the same favorites! :)
Thank you thank you thank you so much I cannot thank you enough and God bless I never understood or actually got shadowing with painting and I think it finally clicked for me no I love you so much for this LOL!!
You're very, very welcome Jaclyn, so happy to help--it really was an awesome *click* moment to find out about grisaille for me, and I'm happy to share it with others! God bless you, too! :D
I am learning everything I can about values and underpaintings right now, (before now, it was always just called "shading, lol) and I have done two of these examples without foreknowledge. I am a beginning artist and this video is informative and to e, super fun. I love the history, and the experimentation as well. Thanks so much. I watch you all t he time and can appreciate your hard work and knowledge.
You're so very welcome, so glad you are learning about grisaille and it is so sweet of you to appreciate my info and efforts! Wishing you epic painting adventures!
You explain and demonstrate so thoroughly. Thank you for making these great videos.
You're very welcome, and epic painting adventures to you!
Great job! Loved the way you taught this information!
Thanks so much, glad you found it useful!
Fantastic, thanks so much for sharing these techniques.
+01poppyblue you're very welcome, glad you enjoyed it!
Very informative demo ,thanks for sharing.
+Maria Kellner You're welcome, thanks for watching!
Enjoyed this! Learned something new!
+Karen Fields thanks! I'm so glad you learned something new--grisaille is somewhat archaic nowadays.
Saw you on the live broadcast with Marty & Steve .... have just subscribed to your channel and will make use of it again and again. Thank you for explaining all the techniques, effects etc etc so clearly ... you will become one of my favourite reference 'books' :)
Awesome, thanks for finding you way over to my channel and for your kind words! You really made my day. :D
I have just come across your videos and I have to say thank you for your fabulous, informative instructions. You are an amazing instructor! I have subscribed!
How lovely of you to say that, and it is very much appreciated. Delighted to have you as a new subscriber, and wishing you your own epic art adventures!
Wow!! You're an absolute genius !! Thanks very much ❤❤❤
You're very welcome! So glad you liked this vid!
Thank you very much for taking the time to post these videos :) I was going to ask if I could use my own mixed gray for the grisaille in watercolors, but my question was answered in this wonderful lesson. Thanks again, and happy painting!
Besides being very instructional, and the fact that I learned a lot from this, I find your voice very soothing :D it had been a tough day before this, thank you!
+Ale Curiel you're very welcome, glad you liked my video and so happy I made your day better. hugs, h
Wow....that's a lot of lesson in such a short video. Thanks!
lansing street blues Yeah, I'm sort of crazy like that. Glad you liked it!
Thank you very much for this video.
you're very welcome! :D
This has been very informative, Thanks Hajra!
You're very welcome, glad you found it useful!
This is interesting I would like to learn more about underpainting. I'll check out your other videos.
Have fun--I have a whole Grisaille underpainting videos playlist on my channel! I also recently taught live grisaille art classes for SCAL, and will probably be doing a few more.
Awesome. Thank you.
You're very welcome, John! :D
Thanks a lot for this great video!
MisterRaintown You're very welcome! :)
That was a phenomenal demonstration. Thank you for sharing!
You're very welcome, your appreciation means a lot. :D
Thank you so much for this tutorial. Very helpful, and well done!
You're very welcome, glad you found it useful! :D
Great job showing and explaining at the same time! Thank you! Keep up the good work!
you're very welcome. :D
Awesome video! So informative!
thanks, glad you found it useful! :D
Excellently informative and helpful!
Thanks so much! And you must be learning a lot--you are just breezing through these videos, I am so impressed! :D
this video was amazingly informative and awesome. subscribing because i love the scientific method approach you take to showing us variants and contrasts between different techniques. you are awesome! I thought i was proficient in paints but i am learning alot from you :)
How wonderful, delighted to have you, and thanks for the generous comments! :D
This is a wonderful demonstration, thank you. Very informative!
you're very welcome, happy to hear you found it useful!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge, this is fascinating, I painted right along with you but I think I'm using to much water.
cromcam you're very welcome. Yes, using too much water is the most common problem in all the students I've ever taught. Keep trying, and I'm sure you'll do marvelous things. :) Happy Painting!
cromcam I'll keep trying, sorry I spelled wrong it should be (too)
cromcam no problem, and good luck!
This is very helpful Hajra, thank you so much. 💞💫
You're very welcome, Kim--grisaille is one of my favorite, uncommon subjects to teach about!
Loved this lesson. Thank you!
+Heather Whitlock-Shoppa You're very welcome! I thought it was a necessary video to make, appreciate your comment. :)
Thank you very much for your tutorial, very useful info. Could you consider making some videos about under-painting for painting skin?
Yes! That would be a godsend :D
+Gerardo Justel You're very welcome, and sorry for the late response, i must have missed your comment. Skin tones are often under-painted in browns or warm yellows. Some of my videos I cover underpainting a human subject, which includes skin, one video demo shows a brown underpainting, while the other demo shows yellow underpainting:
ruclips.net/video/MzwnP8AyX9w/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/ctZKBqXmIXU/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/kNL8v6oZDrw/видео.html
+RoxasLov3r4Ev3r Skin tones are often under-painted in browns or warm yellows. Some of my videos I cover underpainting a human subject, which includes skin, one video demo shows a brown underpainting, while the other demo shows yellow underpainting:
ruclips.net/video/MzwnP8AyX9w/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/ctZKBqXmIXU/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/kNL8v6oZDrw/видео.html
so much great information! thankyou so much 🤗
you're so very welcome! :D
Well with the leafs... The one with the yellow underpainting looks more realistic but I prefer the brunaille one as the brown got a redish tint which is the complementary of green... But I really really learn something and I will think about it, try it, and... Maybe trying to use different colors on underpainting but not by mixing them to a grey. And for a skin tone I would rather use a blue, green-blue, purple undertone as it's... Complementary. I'm biased my brain loves complementary even when it's not realistic (as with the leaf) or blended. Just... Complementary. The more they appear the more I like it (on your flower the green seems a little weak no compared to the red no ?). But well... A mind blowing technique I have to admit... All the open doors now !
Thank you!
+Colleen M you're welcome. :)
I love how synthetic and professional your videos are! Thank you for sharing!
May I ask a bit of advice? I want to make a gouache painting of a green skin monster lit just by a warm light, like a lantern; what kind of grisaille would you suggest? Thabk you for your time (:
*the skin's green is estremely pale
+Stefano Carlo Italiani (xStefCR) no problem. probably a greyish purple would work well as purple and green are could shadow colors for each other. meter the warmth or coolness of the purple according to your lighting needs. good luck!
+Hajra Meeks
Oh, I could have never have thought of that color! Thank you very much, you are an extremely kind person ^_^
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How sweet of you, you made my day.
Great teaching!
Thank you for sharing this. I just learned about grisaille and was wondering if it could be used in watercolor.
+Shelly Parchman You're welcome! And yes, grisaille can be used in any medium that allows for layers and glazes, including watercolor, gouache, oil, and acrylic.
Thank you, this was a really great video (I was searching for information on colored pencil glazing and this came up, yay!) Do you recall if you were using watercolor from a watercolor pencil or actual watercolor paint from a tube or pan for the top layer for your final glazing? Thank you so much!
You're very welcome. :D I used watercolor paint from a pan over top for all these, but it should behave the same way for wc pencil glazing over a grisaille underpainting.
Thank you so much! I can't tell you how excited I got when I saw your video! It really propelled me forward in knowing where I needed to go next, and it gave me lots of energy to keep pushing on!
How wonderful, people like you make videos like this worth it.
I can't figure out what medium to use for grisailes. When I finally settle in, should I use alcohol wash?
I have a question about your grisaille mix: do you use a gray watercolor like payne's grey, or do you mix your grey using primary colors?
I mix my gray using primary colors. I own a paynes gray, but I only use it if I want to use it by itself to do a study or a particular gray color scheme, and not with other bright colors. Mixing your grays from the colors you are using for the painting looks the most harmonious.
+Hajra Meeks Thanks alot, I will definetly try to mix my own gray :))
Hi Hajra, could I use a waterproof black ink beneath watercolours? Thanks for the video. :)
Yes, you absolutely can. Just some inks don't layer as well under watercolors as they have a water-resistant "skin" that makes them permanent (unlike watercolor) but also makes watercolors bead up on them somewhat. It depends on what brand and what type of ink you have--You can paint a long swatch of your ink on some paper and paint swatches of watercolors over it and see how they layer. If the watercolor beads up, try a thinner layer of the ink. You can also try another ink or inktense blocks, which layer pretty well, or just a staining watercolor color (like indigo or phthalo blue or sepia) which will behave like an ink but since it's watercolor it has no resistant skin.
Hajra, are these leaves copied or photocopied? I'm not familiar with Gouache or watercolor. Blessings and thanks _Feb. 20/17.
hey, can't tell if my initial response went through or not, so I'll resend--these leaves were drawn in my art journal from a reference ink drawing from a copyright free collection of old ink images printed by Dover. Blessings back, and hope that helps! :D
wow,love 't,♡
+Hajra Zlatic thanks! by the way, nice name. ;)
thank you:)
So for a gouache painting I would want to do an ink grisaille?
PatchworkHeart Well, for a gouache painting, you would usually do a gouache grisaille, like the one I did in my leaf video ( ruclips.net/video/gnFTfmCexBM/видео.html ) or in my wc vs gouache comparison painting on the gouache side ( ruclips.net/video/MzwnP8AyX9w/видео.html ).You could also do an ink grisaille for a gouache painting, however, it will not blend edges with layers over it as easily as ink is permanent, but you might like that for some pieces.
Alright! Thank you!
I want to color with oil
Hajra, thank you so much for making your videos I was particularly drawn to the grisaille video, and I love that you step out of the box and use this in different media other than oil. I subscribed to your channel and I hope you will subscribe to mine. Looking forward to more of your videos.
Awesome! Thanks and I will be sure to go and check out your channel and videos.
Is shadow mix the same as neutral tint?
nah, neutral tint would be considered one of the traditional grisaille ("the grey") value colors, along with colors like paynes grey. What I meant by "shadow mix" was a mixture of 3 colors from a triad to form a shadow neutral like mixes from red+yellow+blue or orange+green+violet, etc.
Thank you for responding 😊
interesting as hell. Haijira I Asked your friendship
accepted. we're totally friends now. :D