Can I Beat Skyrim Melee only Without Being Detected?
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- In Todays video we create an incredibly overpowered Skyrim character, Grimble, who we'll watch stealthily make his way through some of the game's quests, a little of the main quest and then also the Dawnguard quest line whilst hopefully never being detected by an enemy.
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Video title - Can I Beat Skyrim Without Being Detected? (by enemies)
#Skyrim
Hey folks, it's SKYRIM, everyone's favourite of Todd's magical creations.
You should follow my Twitch channel (link in desc.) because I'm going to be playing completely randomied New Vegas there this coming week, doors and everything, it's going to be horribly painful.
So anyway to answer the question that the title asks... Well... Sort of.
I'm not really enough of an expert at Skyrim to know for sure but it feels like there are just certain moments where you really can't avoid being technically 'detected' for a moment, even if you're sneaking and invisible, when certain NPC's activate it seems like they're programmed to start their existence with an innate knowledge of your location, also dragon hitboxes suck and know there's mods to tighten them up a bit but I wanted to keep this playthrough vanilla for the homies.
You clearly did so many things wrong
You could've leveled up illusion by the telekinesis exploit
You could've done the smithing alchemy enchanting exploit
@@the_guy_with_a_shitty_mic4175 erm he could have used the loverslab werewolf knot glitch and be permanently undetectable ://
@@MacronsKitten stop backseat gaming
What pizza was it
The big question is what topping was on the pizza?
Stealth: I sleep
Undetected: I sleep
Undetected with no bows: Hey I am finally awake
Hey brit! I got a question, what does "bunda" mean
@@JohnTorres-mr4zg I'm British it is the same as butt
@@JohnTorres-mr4zg I'm Brazilian, and it means "ass"
@@JohnTorres-mr4zg it means jacket
@@JohnTorres-mr4zg It's a friendly way to refer to an old woman. You should try it some time!
I like how 1/7th of this run was spent walking into a wall
IRL be like.
The Bethesda experience
@@HazzorPlaysGames If you want to know a way to make future stealth runs easier, the fastest way to level stealth in the bear room is to set the difficulty to legendary, push Hadvar into a corner/if your stealth is high enough you don't really need too, and then stealth attack him. Due to the fact he is unable to become hostile in the tutorial you can stab him in the back repeatedly until he almost dies and then wait until he heals again. This levels stealth to 100 in like 10-20 minutes and can even be used to level stealth later on if you are a conjunction user and you just raise undead and then stab them in the back. I actually might put this elsewhere because enough people don't know about it.
It *just works.*
That’s all Skyrim play throughs until you find enough ingredients for the fortify restoration glitch 😂
This video didn't even have anything it... didn't see anyone the whole run time. Just the wind.
Well, not quite the whole time. You can see the runner at the start, but then at some point while he’s running into the wall he just randomly disappears. Truly a fascinating strategy.
@@mr.cup6yearsago211 and then, after that people just started dying randomly
must have been john cena
It must have been the wind, the walls are closing in~
@@tricmagicA spear pierced my shield… an arrow hit my chin… IT MUST’VE BEEN THE WIND.
I think he is trying to beat skyrim without being detected
What gave you that impression?
But only by enemies of course
Who?
Well, he failed, because we noticed
@@HazzorPlaysGames Do you beat Skyrim without being detected (by enemies) ?
The damage from enchantments don't actually get the sneak attack damage bonus, but the damage increase from improving your weapon through smithing does. I think you could've one-hit a lot more enemies by focusing on smithing instead of enchanting.
The Space Panda, where does that come from? why use that as a username? It's better than mine but how did you think of it?
@@viggofriberg Pandas are cute and space is pretty cool, I guess? Honestly I just wrote something random, I didn't put much thought into it.
Enchanting probably is better for DPS, but you can always do both. Fortify One-Handed x4 (boots, gloves, ring, necklace), a 15% increase each, that's usually better than smithing's ~20-30% damage increase.
@@magicball3201 Fortify One-Handed is actually bugged and doesn't work with daggers (even though the one-handed perk that increases damage DOES work with daggers). It's weird, but hey, it's Bethesda.
Also maxed out Smithing will easily double the weapons damage, maybe even more if combined with potions and enchanted jewelry that increases your Smithing skill, the 20-30% is only when your skill is low.
Reminds me of how crits do basically nothing
I don't know if I've said it before but I really like that little version of yourself that shows up once in a while to wave his little arms around and such.
The little character
@@robjsmiles Who doesn't love that little dude?
His "Avatar" if you will.
@@kendallhudak Yeah I guess that's another name for that funky lil' guy.
19:43 Screw you
I was doing so well too
It's becoming popular again...
I’m not even that far into the video yet, but if you’re referring to what I think you’re referring too, screw you too
I was on a 5 year streak 🙃
Edit: god damn it
@@callmelewsorIs it a Rickroll, or porn related?
@@nathanmeredith neither…
Fr that was the second time this year for me
For the love of the Aedra, if you see a shady orc character, be sure to thank him for his service, no matter how trivial the task may have been.
I've been (re)watching Ymfah lately so it's interesting to compare. There may be a lower level of challenge purity (like ignoring stealth in the tutorial) and insanity, but it's nice to have a more chill take on what could make for similar content.
Yeah I'm not really good enough at this kind of thing to do it in a totally 'pure' manner, it's more like a framework for a playthrough than a super strict challenge.
@@HazzorPlaysGames Completely fair. Wasn't so much a criticism just a wandering thought I had.
I enjoyed the video quite a bit.
@@LanceThumping Ymfah also has the benefit of leaning on his community, and an army of glitch hunters and speed runners to learn techniques from -- totally different vibe to just having a go at it yourself
@@tomc.5704 Absolutely, IIRC there has been at least one time where Ymfah personally put up a bounty for glitches to complete a challenge.
I don't expect many people to go that hard, nor should they.
"Which is weird, because i have no dragon altering mods."
The train horn killed me. Well done sir.
"Climb in back and we'll be off" is so iconic hahaha
Have you seen one of them cats? Kah-jeet I think they call themselves
Every time I hear that Rimworld music, I get an urge to play RImworld again.
Amen, sister.
My mans was so into murdering blind skeletons that he murdered serana's resurrected thing lol
I actually did this with the Ordinator mod
Stealth dagger was so fun to play, stealing from the entire city, 1 shotting enemies
or attack enemies multiple times while hiding
If you want to level one handed early, repeatedly back stabbing whoever you chose to follow in the start of helgen in the bear cave works very well. They can't die and wont turn hostile, so you can just keep stabbing them.
It levels your sneak too.
you can also just stab hadvar in the first room since he wont move on until you open the chest, and there are swords sitting on weapon racks to use
"And if you have eyes, Todd's found a way to put Skyrim in them."
Truer words have never been said.
My internet decided to be a Bethesda game and die right at the 3pm mark, which means that it automatically wants my resolution setting in RUclips to be 144p. If I would play it would be worse. So it will be an hour at least when I finish this video
Finest Hungarian Internet provider:
How's orban doing ?
@@viroshanargiri4641 still sucking Putin's popsicle
@@viroshanargiri4641 (my prevoius comment got eaten by RUclips apparently) still a wannabe commie, still BFF of Putin
"Sneaky clown gimps" is the best description of the Dark Brotherhood I have ever seen.
My man hazzor felt my depression and decided to bless me with a sudden upload
I actually live in the space between your walls and just heard that you were in a low mood.
Always lookin' out for you lot, enjoy the content!
every time i close my eyes i hear the "choo choo" of the dragon, i live in constant fear of his round face
"The room what has the thingie we're here looking for."
Excellent Englishing and descriptification!
14:40 STRONGHOLD OST DETECTED
❤
For maybe 9 years, I haven't lost the game. Thanks. Thank you so much.
All paths lead to stealth archer.....but this time we finally managed to surpass stealth archer and go even further beyond
All paths that do not explicitly disallow either Stealth or Archery lead to stealth archer, at least when taken at above adept difficulty.
This is, in turn, why I prefer Adapt difficulty. Enough challenge to remain fun, while still allowing most playstyles to be viable.
I clicked on this video but I can't watch this video. I mean it's playing, but I can't see or hear Hazzor at all! At least I think it's a Hazzor video, but I can't seem to find any trace of him! Neither within the video or without!
PS.: In case it wasn't clear, this is a joke. There isn't actually a problem with the video!
The first comment I got like this alarmed me, and then I got it.
@@HazzorPlaysGames Haha :D!
Yeah I thought it would give you a hart-attack, so I added the other comment as fast as I could!
@@HazzorPlaysGames took me a second too XD
1:54 it's jover
Gotta say, wasn't expecting the Stronghold soundtrack to start playing, but it was a welcome surprise
THE ALGORITHM DEMANDS PENANCE
PLEASE PAY YOUR PENANCE
What do I need to do? I have a goat ready.
@@HazzorPlaysGames YOU MUST PROVIDE ENGAGEMENT
YOUR COMMENT HAS BEEN ACCEPTED
0:56 use a bowl in the first room to walk through the wall next to the chest with the key in it. I believe if you just fall forwards you will end up at the end of the dungeon. Normally I don’t do this because there’s loot to be had but it would help with this run. Also worth noting if you don’t want to use that glitch you don’t have to kill those stormcloaks. You already have the key so you can go past.
A few other things of note, enchantment damage doesn’t get multiplied by stealth so with the insane multiplier with daggers even a small upgrade would be better than enchanting. Also, while it doesn’t really matter since stealth is powerful enough as is, vampirism gives a bonus to stealth and illusion, and the vampire side quests can give an insane ring called “ring of the euradite” which upgrades your magica by 100, and also increases your base revenue from 3 per second to 5, which stacks with regular regen enchants. Although honestly it doesn’t matter because stealth is more than powerful enough that none of these things are very important.
1) Switching to legendary difficulty, equipping 2 daggers and repeatedly doing LIGHT double attacks (tapping both mouse keys simultaneously) can bring your Sneak skill to 100 in around 5 minutes. Just make sure to not take any perks which upgrade your sneak attack multiplier during that.
2) You can go straight to Riften and kill Grelod without talking to the boy and taking the quest before that. That saves some time on traveling here and there and back.
3) There's enough jewelry in the houses of wealthy Whiterun citizens, so there was no practical need to level up pick-pocketing.
Why passively sneak into the wall, when you can backstab Ralof/Hardvar at the same time and level your one-handed at the same time.
Oh, and you can pickpocket the guys in the dark brotherhood shack. They're blindfolded and bound, so they can't see you and won't attack.
Like Runescape he says.
Just a series of skill grinds he says.
Time for the ironman challenge.
I love when the game gives you the objective of "Find The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim"
There’s a much quicker way to max out sneak, and you can do it before leaving the starting room.
Enter the Helgen dungeon with Rolaf, kill the imperials, and take they key that one of them holds before Rolaf can get it.
Set up done.
Seriously, that’s it. Go try it, you’ll wait longer for the intro than you will to hit level 10
As long as he doesn’t get the key he will stand there waiting for you, and never become hostile. The first 2-3 sneak attacks against him can be pretty hard to nail, but if you put your first skill point in sneak it gets significantly easier
Works with 1 handed and destruction too, but takes forever.
To level up sneak, just crouch,put one point into sneak,use a dagger and just sneak attack the person you join forces with in Helgen. It’s faster,better,and you can level farm with it
Must’ve been the wind
"But with the power of invisibility...Grimble slips by like a silent fart." I wheezed xD
"This Skyrim playthrough so far has the same energy as an Old School Runescape Character"
As my gaze shifts to the bottom right of the screen where I'm idly clicking around Seers Village rooftops, enjoying some White Cheddar Cheez-Its.
Skyrim with the Rimworld soundtrack is surreal. I keep expecting Hazzor to knock people unconscious and to then drag them to his lair to harvest organs.
You could potentially stealth the tutorial, if you side with ralof (maybe hadvar works too) you can get you hands free, and stealth melee hit him to level up sneak, i dont think he turns to see you. But yeah, level 100 sneak before looting gunjars corpse
always exciting when hazzor posts tbh
I knew we would be very well acquainted with that one wall, it wouldn't be stealth without it.
Always nice to see a hazzor upload in my notifications.
Dog, I'm going to be honest with you @Hazzor, I bought Skyrim entirely because of your video. And I also used your video as a step-by-step tutorial, with certain tweaks here & there, such as investing in smithing instead of enchanting, going through the Dark Brotherhood questline for money instead of leveling my pickpocketing skill, as well as for the Cicero's clothes outfit for sneakiness instead of enchanting armor for it, etc. Also, did you know that instead of walking into a wall for 4 hours to get to sneak level 83, you could have just sneak attacked Hadvar for like 20-30 minutes, and gotten to level 100?
You know, this sounds like a fun idea. Im going to try it later. Also, for the starting bit you can skip past all the soldiers by going through the wall making the spiders the only enemies that are able to spot you.
Pikmin!!
Excellent video, brings me back to the good old mitten squad days
TIP: in that bear cave in Helen, turn your difficulty to legendary and bring hadvar or ralof back behind the entrance to that cave and have him face a wall, and constantly sneak attack his back with a dagger, levels your sneak in like 10-15min instead of just walking into a wall
When you started on Dawnguard I expected you were going to join the vampires for the bonuses to sneak snd illusion
I like how since a few npcs do see you that your character basically will just become a skyrim cryptid.
For the record, unless they patched it out (unlikely), you can train sneak in the first section by sneak attacking Hadvar over and over again. Much faster than walking.
Hey the courier is sick today but I've got a letter for you.
Yes, I teamed up with the vampires because that vampire I found is hot.
-Grmible.
8:23 - Quiet casting. Fury one of them. Wait for one of the bandits to kill the other. Stealth kill the winner.
Stealth mage is REALLY fun. I sometimes wonder if Todd's favorite skill isn't sneaking, considering the most used builds (mainly stealth archer) use stealth.
"Sneaky gimp clown" sounds like a new character in S3 of Helluva Boss.
the funniest part about this is i know it’s possible but the only way i know is through the restoration glitch. cant wait to watch and find out how you did if
My bro's first character on the 360 back on release turned into a dagger only stealth build, it was hilarious and why I've never tried stealth archery
I like how you didn't use major game-breakers (such as the stacking of enchants), great challenge run.
“Shredded Celebrimbor” definitely earned a sub outta me lmfao @ 24:11
There actually is a way to do it stealthily.
Take the key from the captain before Ralof does and the iron dagger from one of the soldiers.
Ralof will now wait at the gate passively and still invincible, allowing you to backstab him. Once you level up you basically jump up a level per hit til you're in the 60's. Do that til you max out sneak and you've got a few levels for backstab and sneak bonuses and maxed out sneak
By the Divines, just when Meridia's voice gone quiet, she just comes back for seconds. 😔
I'm normally a lurker but drip and old school runescape mentioned in the same video is a very interesting coincidence 🤔
There's a very easy way for doing this: Stabing Ralof/Hadvar a billion times in Helgen. All you need to do is taking the key before them and than sneaking and hitting them, it's a bit weird, the game will always say you are stealth, but won't give the bonus damage 100% of the time, when will manage to do a backstab though, you gain xp, and quite a bit of xp, I think you can max sneak in less then 30 minutes, and in 1 hour or so you can also max one handed. After that, having 100 sneak and taking some perks, it's a pretty easy start.
Leveling sneak is much faster if you sneak attack the imperial torturer on your way out of Helgen. As long as you don’t drop his health more than 1/5 without letting it recover (he heals extremely fast) then he won’t become hostile. Use the steel dagger you can pick up in the same area, but don’t unlock the perk that makes daggers do 15x damage till you’re at 100 sneak. Takes about 30-40 minutes of repeated sneak attacks.
I was like ‘oh he’ll just end up a stealth arche- melee? HMMMMM INTRIGUING’
There is a faster way to level sneak in the bear cave! If you push Hadvar into a corner far enough away from the bear and turn the difficulty to legendary, you can continually get sneak attacks on him and he never turns against you. You can max sneak in like 5 minutes!
"But she's not kind, she's terrible, to all of æææææææææææææææ."
You dont need to be third person or even buy roll button to roll, "melee only", almost immediately uses magic for hours on end
The bear: "Oh boy! Time for my 4 1/2 hours nap!"
You were detected by Ralof as soon as he said “hey you, you’re finally awake” you need to find an exploit to jump out of the cart and run away before he notices you woke up
Chad stealth melee build vs. virgin stealth archer
If you want to crown the build, and find a way to get Block to lvl 70 in this, spend points on *Block Runner* perk, as it will allow you to be near-walking speed in stealth.
It physically is faster than Skyrim AI can comprehend and they will target areas that you will long have left in case they start searching.
And even outside of that, the added speed is very nice.
You can actually level up sneak a lot faster in the same starting cave. First, grab a steel or iron dagger in the keep. When Ralof/Hadvar says, "Go ahead, I'll follow your lead and watch your back," walk to the small waterfall behind you. Make Hadvar/Ralof look at the wall and not you. Then power attack him while sneaking with the dagger then just normally hit 2 times while also sneaking. Wait 7 seconds then attack 2 times. Repeat until it starts saying sneak attack for 3x damage. It should set it to where all attacks are sneak attacks only to him.
I figured this out last year. The answer is yes if you allow reloading, if you don't the answer is theoretically yes. I had done maybe 6 perma attempts where about 1 to 2 hours into the run I would be detected by someone, usually a guard, who just had omnipotent powers and could see me through walls, just ended up making life easier on myself when I got discovered on my last attempt, about 10 hours in, after, admittedly, getting sidetracked with some side quests.
Doing it hardcore with Bethesda's wonky ass detection mechanics is just stamping on your own testes for fun.
Tip for anyone who wants to attempt this: if you don’t want to walk into a wall for a few hours get hadvar or ralof in a corner of the bear cave sneak behind them and just stab them, (turn to max difficulty to stop them falling over to speed things up) they can’t get angry with you until you exit the cave and you also level up weapon skill
Amazing video with Rimworld music, epic combo !
7:23 don't you need a speech perk to sell stolen goods to any merchants?
This is how I already played Skyrim on my original play through
I love stealth
I hate bows
And I maxed stealth using that one graybeard exploit so it was piss easy
People keep telling me Skyrim ain't hard despite me remembering it being Insanely hard
I think I just played the game in a really stupid way now I look back at it
Hah! Your scroll has no power over me, Randall Monroe already freed me!
One of my favorite playthroughs was completing the crown of Barenziah as a rogue, without being detected, and with no kills.
Fun fact: dual wielding daggers and doing the dual wield power attack when sneaking causes all 3 hits to proc sneak attack damage
The stick bug meme is legendary
It’s pretty hilarious that he got crushed by the roof by elf dude at like 23:45 ish I don’t think that’s ever happened to me in a play through 😭
6:51 I be like "Wait, I don't play any rimworld ost. Where this source come from? Oh, nvm"
The thing you could also have done is use Hadward as a punching bag by taking 1 point into sneak then continously sneak attack him for massive amount of experience in sneak, but also a tiny bit in One-handed aswell.
Tips and tricks are always good to get, especially in this specific scenario. Other then that, i really enjoyed the video, and keep doing more of these
Aventus: she is terrible, to ALL of u- *Confused and Terrified Computer Noises*
yeah, that sounds about right.
Fyi; if you max your pickpocket you can steal the blade of woe from Astrid in the abandoned cabin. So you can get it very early and also get a 2nd one later, assuming it hasn't been patched.
I experienced vertigo and a slight feeling of reality unraveling when the Rimworld theme started
The moth priest going blind was such a dumb plot. You would think the guy who spent his entire life preparing to read a scroll would be prepared enough, but no… still goes blind and accomplishes nothing
Awesome video btw!
I'm loving these new BGS games videos
yet another hazzor banger classic
In the tutorial, large portions can be completed without being seen by letting Hadvar fight the storm cloaks for you while you hide around a corner or up the stairs. He's really bad at it and you'll have to retreat every once and a while, but it's possible.
Ah yes skyrim sneak damage logic. “With the power of this toothpick I found, I shall one shot 95% of the game”
I don't know why, but I really appreciate the rimworld soundtrack for Skyrim
Tbh, If I did this, I'd probably go the route of just enchantments to make myself have a literal 0% detection risk. lol
For the future: you can buy adept level spells when the appropriate skill reaches level 40 and expert level spells when it reaches 65. They cost twice as much to cast until you reach 50 and 75 and pick up the perks but you *can* buy and use most of them before then. A few are just totally impractical without the cost reduction to the point of being functionally unusable even if the game will still let you learn and cast them technically.
LOVE the stickbug letter
2:25 I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds that this line lives, rent free, in my mind. It's one of those things I can't help but say in real life, and then immediately cringe
stealth is really funny in Skyrim, I remember giving one stab to Miraak's back on hardest difficulty to completely destroy him, bro even glitched into the ground
I also like the idea that this guy saved you from being executed then you killed some imperials and proceeded to sneak into a wall until you dissappeared from his sight. Like how did you get recruited into the dark brotherhood all they know is someone killed their guy stole his orders and carried them out.
You should've been a KAHJIIT. It is a SNEAK VIDOE!!! Great content! 00:22 is my favorite part!
it's spelled 'caryeet'
18:49 you did WHAT
Stronghold Music hits differently.