The history of humanity is fascinating with more discoveries in the future. One of my favorite archeological sites is Gobekli Tepe...soooo interesting!
Totally agree. Interesting how stylized or abstract both objects are, especially the Gobekli Tepe stone totems with the arms represented by two angled parallel lines. Imagine how wonderful is the stuff that is completely lost. Love prehistory.
Hoping to visit Yekaterinburg next year if we’re ever allowed back to Russia. Looking forward to seeing this, the museum and the salt mines. There’s so much to see in Russia.
And no doubt it did not come out of nowhere. There must have been thousands of years of artistic creativity before this. Same as today, people are largely the same as 10,000 years ago.
Reminds me of Totem poles of the Pacific North west Indians. I believe they had genetic roots to Siberia. The people and communities they formed were not that different than today and traveled far. Recently, paleontologists discovered American Indians hunted on the Alpena ridge now 100 feet deep in Lake Huron. They found obsidian flakes from arrow sharpening. The obsidian came from 4000 km away in Oregon not far from the Pacific and was dated 9,000 to 10,000 years old
Stone statues from Peru look very similar, and many others around the world. More possible evidence pointing to a lost civilization or culture near the Younger Dryas?
The tragedy is that I have p'ssed on trees older than that and hod no idea of their age! When you've got to go - necessity trumps age I'm afraid fellas! They should test for Viking urine and you could announce the result wearing Viking helmets!
The reliability has increased over time and is still quite good for objects of this age, but as pointed out, contamination is common. If you combine several other methods with this however, that al give similar results, chances are that it is quite reliable. If results of other finds in the same strata are wildly different from each other, that is where you have to start adding salt to the stories. In general though at this fairly recent date, c14 dating is not that far off if the sample is good. The dating is feasible, but it would be really nice if they found something similar in context.
In this case they got other objects from the same context and also did multiple samples over time. If things start agreeing *more* with more samples, that's things improving, not being unreliable. Assuming everyone's honest of course. Russia's currently in one of those nationalist phases and those types don't mind *lying.* But that's not an instrumentation problem.
My favourite antiquity in the world. Absolutely stunning.
The history of humanity is fascinating with more discoveries in the future. One of my favorite archeological sites is Gobekli Tepe...soooo interesting!
Totally agree. Interesting how stylized or abstract both objects are, especially the Gobekli Tepe stone totems with the arms represented by two angled parallel lines. Imagine how wonderful is the stuff that is completely lost. Love prehistory.
Hoping to visit Yekaterinburg next year if we’re ever allowed back to Russia. Looking forward to seeing this, the museum and the salt mines. There’s so much to see in Russia.
Wow, btw. I've seen pictures of this artifact before but never heard or imagined it was anywhere near that *big.* :)
Human ingenuity and creativity are astounding even 12200 years ago.
And no doubt it did not come out of nowhere. There must have been thousands of years of artistic creativity before this. Same as today, people are largely the same as 10,000 years ago.
Great post guys Russia is a massive hole in our knowledge of ourselves and deep pre history at it continues to remind us. Thank you.
Reminds me of Totem poles of the Pacific North west Indians. I believe they had genetic roots to Siberia. The people and communities they formed were not that different than today and traveled far. Recently, paleontologists discovered American Indians hunted on the Alpena ridge now 100 feet deep in Lake Huron. They found obsidian flakes from arrow sharpening. The obsidian came from 4000 km away in Oregon not far from the Pacific and was dated 9,000 to 10,000 years old
That is really old wood statue. Imagine what else is dated incorrectly in museums. Stay safe.
I saw the idol in Yekaterinburg in 2014. Interesting museum if you get a chance to visit.
Hopefully next year. Fingers crossed. Did you see the salt mines by any chance? And anything else you can recommend. Cheers.
@@philyyz Lots of small museums and galleries. Museum of Fine Arts has lots of
Kasli cast iron works is worth a visit. Metro is interesting too.
Fascinating object
Great video guys
Fascinating! Thank you very much.
Glad you enjoyed it!
More like this but frag it out to 20mins ;) great
Hail Michael hail Rupert! Noone should give me wood at this time of night especially about Prehistory!
Fantastic information! Thank you.
Our pleasure!
Who's up for another shot? 13;000 or bust! 🙃
You Bet!
I’m drinking another Shot even as I read through these comments... 😁
It is kinda awkward that the researchers didn't take the wax contamination into consideration earlier.
So it was almost exactly 12,000 years old when discovered.
Stone statues from Peru look very similar, and many others around the world. More possible evidence pointing to a lost civilization or culture near the Younger Dryas?
Blimey!
Oh no it must be a mistake…. Well Jim, you’re right add 4000 years! LOL Brilliant 😊
I've always wondered why this statue was abandoned
The owner died.
@@bozo5632 you're saying they couldn't sell this at the estate sale so they hucked it in the swamp
@@orsonzedd Was a joke.
@@bozo5632 I know I was building on it
The tragedy is that I have p'ssed on trees older than that and hod no idea of their age! When you've got to go - necessity trumps age I'm afraid fellas! They should test for Viking urine and you could announce the result wearing Viking helmets!
😮 I wonder why the “o” shaped mouth? it’s not a very natural shape to make with our mouths.
Try it, it feels really odd!
Unless you’re singing!
✌️Hehe it could well be the first choir master 🌅
@@ThePrehistoryGuys
THAT brings up a whole host of questions regarding the carved symbols! Yes! Singing!
Brilliant! 💕💖
I really like the Woodprix plans.
More than anything, the continual re-dating of this idol shows the unreliability of C-14 dating methods.
No it shows the need for care in choosing a sample with which to calculate a date.
The reliability has increased over time and is still quite good for objects of this age, but as pointed out, contamination is common. If you combine several other methods with this however, that al give similar results, chances are that it is quite reliable. If results of other finds in the same strata are wildly different from each other, that is where you have to start adding salt to the stories. In general though at this fairly recent date, c14 dating is not that far off if the sample is good. The dating is feasible, but it would be really nice if they found something similar in context.
In this case they got other objects from the same context and also did multiple samples over time. If things start agreeing *more* with more samples, that's things improving, not being unreliable. Assuming everyone's honest of course.
Russia's currently in one of those nationalist phases and those types don't mind *lying.* But that's not an instrumentation problem.
@@OllamhDrab I would certainly believe the Russian science community over the US science community any day.
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I hear the rain, I hear the rai-ain, I hear the rain, gotta kill the pain...
Is that the object on the cover of Hallowed Ground? Wow I never knew that.
@@ShadowWizard123 No, it's not, it just reminded me of it. Sorry for the confusion.
@@bozo5632 no worries. Good taste in music bro
Makes me feel like a girl again!!