Ha that's awesome haven't seen someone use this outside before. I have seen it in closed door schools quite a bit. You can actually see you root ground and issue in the video that's the real deal, most times you never see this in a video. Absolutely awesome great job, the fact that you brought this out might be a reason someone actually learns it.
This is excellent. Better than 99% of teachers out there AND you explain it. From a zhan zhuang perspective, you could get this power from standing and tendon stretching but it is rarely taught well. There is a lot of 'stand and you'll get it'.
I have been practicing zhan zhuang.However I did not know that I can practice grounding or yielding.I you don't mind,can you please give me some pointers?Tq
Just have someone press on you while you are doing your standing. Have then press at different spots giving you enough force practice but not so much as to break your structure and ground connection or resort to using muscular leaver force. Accept the force into your center and release it to the ground. Once you have felt how it is to ground force from all sides find the middle posture that is ready to recieve the force regardless of it's direction and you will have found the proper ZZ for later combat useage. My first Taiji master would push on us from different angles while doing our Taiji form and even mid step we were expected to be able to take force from any side to assure we were doing the form properly but also during ZZ to give that tree like rootedness required to make the more advanced stuff effective later.
Simple solution to the skepticism. Blindfold the student and have Mizner and another similar stature Sifu who does not practice internal style spar with them. If they leap around for both you've got your answer.
It looks like a trick....but it's not. Your partner is most likely not quite that good of a physical actor (I doubt anyone is really). Would it be fair to say that energy transferred through physical contact can be stored, and your nervous system (or just your mind) has control of releasing the energy at any point on your body? Is it indeed through the Facia as some manuscripts say? Honestly, it looks like very subtle and short range telekinesis enabled by physical contact. I didn't see any muscle movement. Great demonstration.
This is brilliant. I am slowly learning on my own been taking bits and pieces from other masters. Can you do this give and take with a tree or can it only be done with another person?
It would be interesting to see some scientific examination of what is happening here using force sensors and electrodes measuring what the muscles are doing. It seems clear this is not just newtonian physics, but it is not clear what it is. Could this be used on an inanimate object that was falling on you? I have seen practitioners who seem to be able to do similar techniques through a staff or sword. How has this not been thoroughly explored?
Thank you for the videos Adam. This brings up a question for me which has become central to my understanding of tai chi - the difference (or perhaps apparent difference) between yielding and holding your ground. In this demo it appears that the yielding in step one is an opposite thing to the neutralizing in step 2, in which it seems you are no longer moving your hips/center to evade, but just sending down your root. Can you explain the inter-relationship or difference between the two (yielding and neutralizing, as you put it here), and when, in combat, one is meant to evade vs "hwa and fa?" Do you think a "root" is necessary to yield? Or are rooting and yielding also somewhat opposite concepts? Similarly, is neutralizing necessary to issue (fa)? Some more clarity on the difference and interplay between all these concepts would be appreciated. Thanks so much.
No answer as of yet in 2 years, I'll put my 2 cents in since it's a good question. You really can't yield properly without root. Imagine being on ice and someone pushes you, you just go in the way they push you! So, root is imperative. In this case Mr. Mizner is allowing the energy to come toward his center, but before it is compromised he yields, ie, turns his waist, so the incoming energy is off the line. That is the first step - hwa. The next is to send energy back out, fa. When yielding, he is only yielding enough to take his partner off center while at the same time aligning his center with theirs. So long as that connection is made, the jin can be transferred from the leg through the waist into the partner's center through their own bridge. Release. Fa. Is neutralizing necessary to fa? No, you can easily fajin without receiving, you just put your hands on them, find their center, and release. Neutralizing happens when you are receiving energy from the opponent. You do need to have other types of jin, like ting jin and dong jin, in order for fa to work. But to my understanding no, you do not need to wait to receive energy to release your own energy. It's all timing and initiative at that point. Take a look at this website for more information: www.scholarsage.com/ting-dong-hua-na-and-fa/ Hope this helps.
Level 1 external yielding. Level 2 internal yielding to ground the force is neutralising. Level 3 internal yielding to neutralise to create internal rising of force to rebound.
I find the skepticism on these videos quite interesting. The premise seems to be: "I have never seen nor felt this, therefore it isn't real." Putting aside the obvious rejoinders about unseen things that are most definitely real and which can easily be felt and perceived (gravity, wind, etc.), I think the attitude here shows a real defensiveness and unwillingness to explore what is a true skill--and that is exactly what it is, a skill. This isn't magic, or group hypnosis. In the 25 or so years of internal practice, I have had the great fortune to study with lineage masters of Yang (both Ip Tai Tak and Yang Chengfu / Cheng), as well as Chen. What Shifu Mizner is talking about and demonstrating is a skill. I am not at this level, but I am quite familiar with the efficacy of this neigong. This particular skill, which is beyond basic pushing hands, and which is NOT external san shou, takes time to develop, but it is just as real as any other high-level skill a human is capable of with dedicated work.
What you say is very true. People who have never experienced this power and its sensation are not just skeptical but often very hostile. But let's also point out that there are so many fakers, charlatans and poseurs around that it builds distrust for anyone demonstrating a power that is real, and if you haven't experienced it you also have no good way to assess what you're viewing to distinguish the real power from the fakery. Finally, the term "skill" seems like maybe a challenging term in English that isn't a very exact description for what is achieved with practice and proper training, but I guess it's the closest we can get to the right word.
This is WITHOUT doubt 1000% cultism. Nothing that Mizner or any of these "chi" gurus do is real in anyway. These guys could flip the martial arts world on its head by simply demonstrating this against unwilling participants and someone from other martial arts that aren't being compliant or frankly seeming like they are brainwashed... but instead we see the same gullible idiots throwing themselves around at the slightest touch and being sent across the room by "magical forces"... Simple way to debunk: Bring a wrestler or BJJ practitioner to ANY of these seminars and have this stuff done to them. Let them put hands on Mizner and see what happens.. But we all know what won't happen.
Hi Adam, I'm really interested in this Neigong practice. How do we develop this level of force? Is it mainly a solo practice after being taught the theory and basic practice, or is it necessary to practice in group, like regular weekly classes? I'd like to come to the Milan workshop in march with Andy. What we'll learn in this seminar will it be enough to carry on on my own? I haven't done much push hands though, mainly Tai Chi yang long form of Tung's family. A friend of mine would also like to come, but he's never done any TC, just other external martial arts. My main interest is for health & well being. Thanks a lot
Interesting demo. As a natural skeptic I would like to see hire this applies with a non student, particularly from a different combat at such as wrestler or BJJ. Or even a non martial artist with decent power and body connection such as a power lifter. I'm not sure it would work the same? And further hire would this look in a full speed uncooperative situation. It's interesting in this context but if it didn't work in a full speed task fight its as good as useless.
Allow me an analogy: An average guy is in a street fight with another average guy. Both of them flair a bit, land a few glancing haymakers or jabs, and one of them ducks, closes his eyes (out of fear of being hit), and swings back landing a fist right on the button (or solar plexus), shutting the opponent down. An effect punch by accident that he can't easily repeat. Compare him to a boxer who can land a knockout blow nearly at will on an untrained opponent. Now a littler closer to home ... In high school, most of us horsed around while walking down the halls. You walk a little out of step, and just before your linebacker or quarterback friend puts his foot down, you step in front of him, tapping him with your hip. You've executed a successful feint and block, in real-time, as he tries to react but before he can recover, so your 4 oz of force jams him into the lockers with a lot of noise and embarrassment, but no real pain. You can't really do this any time you want, but it's enough .... that you get stuffed into a locker by his friends :-) A Tai Chi Master has more tools to do this, and if one method fails, that can lead the opponent into another setup that might succeed, just like with counter-counters in judo. In judo, you don't hear about breaking an opponent's neck. In Tai Chi, it might be very easy to use more than 4 oz ... and you can imagine the bone shattering effects on a collarbone, rib, or hip, if a shoulder or hip strike were executed, with full knowledge, in a way similar to described above. In the video, the guy is jumping to try to catch his balance rather than falling. The top grand masters (pick a style) have the ability to adapt and recover their base faster than the rest of us ... due to decades of practice and play.
Trust me - they (he) NEVER will. They just like to play silly little games with each other & think they're oh so clever. They just like to live in their own little deluded fantasy world. He even has the gall to have a picture of Yang lu Chan on the wall in the background. Lu-Chan would just laugh & walk away.
Hank Simon I really don't think Judo can be related to this. It's practical and works, like bjj, for example. This can work as well, but requiers both fighters to understand the system and have developed full control of the chi so that the placebo effect can occur
you'll need to find a skilled practitioner/teacher. I was Lucky to have meta couple. feels like a balloon filled with air bouncing you back,. the harder and faster you push the more energy is transferred back to you. so if you're not able to yield back as that happens - you end up flat on your ass. lol IT is a "trip" of a feeling.. I found nothing else like it in the world Taiji Rules.
This also is possible because the partner has a good level, Tai Chi is about return, if your opponent has good Ching or chi of course stronger he will fly...
In this case he will jump like a spring but not fall because he has steps. But he breaks his knees. It's not about the master. (В этом случае он будет прыгать как пружина, но не падать, потому что у него есть шаги. Но он ломает колени. Мастер тут ни причём.)
I did karate wing chun boxing jujisu, but i know i want do ti chi now, only sad thing is i live darwin Australia, no one here, i must stay becuse my children, i wont leave them, ie ex wife is with bf here,
When Albrecht Dürer drew a picture of a rhinoceros, nobody believed it was real because they simply had no means to go see for themselves due to their situation. So they lived and died in complete assurance that their ignorance backed up by the impossibility of verification. Nowadays, it is common knowledge. I have traveled and seen this very skill in person. I was not compliant. I saw that it was a real skill. It only appears magical and unreal to those who do not understand how it is done and those who cannot even imagine that it is possible, simply because they cannot do it.
It's not magical, it's physics, very scientific. It's nothing more than practicing long enough to have the sensitivity to adjust to what the other person is doing and messing up his structure.
the taichi is a beautiful system to inprove our health, mind, and spiritu, but, why is the reason to atack its nature, with this demostration, why the student fall to the floor, is stupid, for that behaviour the people atack the taichi , because the absurd demostration of super powers , the people think that is a fake, excuse me but a lot of people think the same , when other person diferent to a student atack to the master and doesn't happen nothing
If you watch it at x0,25 youll find hes jumping. The hips go first altough hes being pushed in the hands, so the shoulders and chest should move first, them everything else. If i werent interested in infernal arts i wouldnt be watching this. And probably i could never ever move this sifu by pushing him. But the student is jumping.
Discover Taiji What do you mean by "catching someones center"? Dont get me wrong. Id love to believe humans can do such things. I hope ill be able to expirience it someday. Thanks for the reply.
Go feel it for yourself, it's a different way, it's not pushing or shoving externally. It's taking someones center from underneath them basically and "pushing" if you will, on their center, without having to have the direct contact to their center. It's quite similar to the Wing Chun I learn. CST Wing Chun.
It looks similar to CST wing chun intially but as someone who does CST wing chun I'm far from convinced by Sifu Mizner and am yet to see him against any real or dynamic resistance. Just compare Sifu Jim Fung's one inch punch compared to Mizner's, one is a strike, one is a push. With that said I'm open to changing my opinion if anyone could show me Sifu Mizner against a big guy(that's not his student) or just see how he counters real and dynamic resistance. Having done CST wing chun I'm also very aware of the 'party tricks' that look good but dont really work in combat & so far that's all i've seen from Sifu Mizner so far....
bartronZ - I suppose I doubted his ability in dynamic situations at first, but after watching the videos from the Martial Man that were done on Sifu Mizner, I changed my mind. Sifu Jim fungs 1 inch punch was pretty good. Do you live in Adelaide? I'm studying under Tony Blencowe, who was one of CST's best students. Who do you train under?
Sadly many of you in the comments will never experience true kungfu like this. We live in a day and age where the real stuff like this is called fake, but the high flying staged ruled combat with refs is called real.
Are you ok? I'd love for you to try this on someone who isn't compliant and see where that gets you. this stuff is as real as Harry Potter's magic wand.
I get why you say that. I experienced the fake stuff for 6 years before I found the real kung-fu. I pray you find the real one day. Unless, you simply choose to believe all is fake regardless of the proof. Then you will always be blind
@@Christiangamer84 It's not about believing, it's about it actually working on a person that ISNT compliant or cooperating. I've never seen any of this internal Chi nonsense work on someone that wasn't part of the group and going along with the teacher... hence why Aikido DOESNT work in reality. I'm happy to be proven wrong, I welcome it... but after 35 years in the martial arts I can spot nonsense when I see it.. This would NEVER work on someone who isn't faking it, and if it has, please show me.
So good. I have been training for forty years and know many teachers and have never heard it explained so clearly or demonstrated with such skill.
lol you are embarrassing yourself when u cant decide between real and fake after 40 years. Im doubting that your training helped you evolve at all
Ha that's awesome haven't seen someone use this outside before. I have seen it in closed door schools quite a bit. You can actually see you root ground and issue in the video that's the real deal, most times you never see this in a video. Absolutely awesome great job, the fact that you brought this out might be a reason someone actually learns it.
matt bugg certainly one of the videos that had me start training taiji
*Hwa that’s awesome
@@DaggetDesigns me too ;)
You have taken me to a level I could never have dreamed in combination with my teachers 🍃🕊
Those are some awesome skills to have. I hope to achieve it someday. I joined Discover Taiji today, am excited to learn!
Mastery demonstrated and explained in a concise manner. Thank you for sharing Master Adam.
This is excellent. Better than 99% of teachers out there AND you explain it. From a zhan zhuang perspective, you could get this power from standing and tendon stretching but it is rarely taught well. There is a lot of 'stand and you'll get it'.
I have been practicing zhan zhuang.However I did not know that I can practice grounding or yielding.I you don't mind,can you please give me some pointers?Tq
Just have someone press on you while you are doing your standing. Have then press at different spots giving you enough force practice but not so much as to break your structure and ground connection or resort to using muscular leaver force. Accept the force into your center and release it to the ground. Once you have felt how it is to ground force from all sides find the middle posture that is ready to recieve the force regardless of it's direction and you will have found the proper ZZ for later combat useage. My first Taiji master would push on us from different angles while doing our Taiji form and even mid step we were expected to be able to take force from any side to assure we were doing the form properly but also during ZZ to give that tree like rootedness required to make the more advanced stuff effective later.
Simple solution to the skepticism. Blindfold the student and have Mizner and another similar stature Sifu who does not practice internal style spar with them. If they leap around for both you've got your answer.
Yes. Or you should have Mizner push the Sifu and see whether he jumps around. Otherwise, it is a bit hard to believe.
Its bullshit with a capital B. That jumping backwords.
It looks like a trick....but it's not. Your partner is most likely not quite that good of a physical actor (I doubt anyone is really). Would it be fair to say that energy transferred through physical contact can be stored, and your nervous system (or just your mind) has control of releasing the energy at any point on your body? Is it indeed through the Facia as some manuscripts say? Honestly, it looks like very subtle and short range telekinesis enabled by physical contact. I didn't see any muscle movement. Great demonstration.
This is brilliant. I am slowly learning on my own been taking bits and pieces from other masters. Can you do this give and take with a tree or can it only be done with another person?
Great video Sifu Adam Mizner, thank you.
It would be interesting to see some scientific examination of what is happening here using force sensors and electrodes measuring what the muscles are doing. It seems clear this is not just newtonian physics, but it is not clear what it is. Could this be used on an inanimate object that was falling on you? I have seen practitioners who seem to be able to do similar techniques through a staff or sword. How has this not been thoroughly explored?
Amazing internal work
Thank you for the videos Adam. This brings up a question for me which has become central to my understanding of tai chi - the difference (or perhaps apparent difference) between yielding and holding your ground. In this demo it appears that the yielding in step one is an opposite thing to the neutralizing in step 2, in which it seems you are no longer moving your hips/center to evade, but just sending down your root. Can you explain the inter-relationship or difference between the two (yielding and neutralizing, as you put it here), and when, in combat, one is meant to evade vs "hwa and fa?" Do you think a "root" is necessary to yield? Or are rooting and yielding also somewhat opposite concepts? Similarly, is neutralizing necessary to issue (fa)? Some more clarity on the difference and interplay between all these concepts would be appreciated. Thanks so much.
No answer as of yet in 2 years, I'll put my 2 cents in since it's a good question.
You really can't yield properly without root. Imagine being on ice and someone pushes you, you just go in the way they push you! So, root is imperative. In this case Mr. Mizner is allowing the energy to come toward his center, but before it is compromised he yields, ie, turns his waist, so the incoming energy is off the line. That is the first step - hwa. The next is to send energy back out, fa. When yielding, he is only yielding enough to take his partner off center while at the same time aligning his center with theirs. So long as that connection is made, the jin can be transferred from the leg through the waist into the partner's center through their own bridge. Release. Fa.
Is neutralizing necessary to fa? No, you can easily fajin without receiving, you just put your hands on them, find their center, and release. Neutralizing happens when you are receiving energy from the opponent. You do need to have other types of jin, like ting jin and dong jin, in order for fa to work. But to my understanding no, you do not need to wait to receive energy to release your own energy. It's all timing and initiative at that point. Take a look at this website for more information: www.scholarsage.com/ting-dong-hua-na-and-fa/
Hope this helps.
Level 1 external yielding. Level 2 internal yielding to ground the force is neutralising. Level 3 internal yielding to neutralise to create internal rising of force to rebound.
I really liked this. Thanks !
God when I think off my wing tjun level. I'm only on level 1 with a bit if level 2.
Respect to Adam true internal skill. 👍🏼
Then you should start to learn better Wing Chun and not waste your time with Tjun, Tsun, Tzun, Tschun.. etc..
Is this practice (or similar) also common in the Chen style? I've never seen something similar in Chen...
I find the skepticism on these videos quite interesting. The premise seems to be: "I have never seen nor felt this, therefore it isn't real." Putting aside the obvious rejoinders about unseen things that are most definitely real and which can easily be felt and perceived (gravity, wind, etc.), I think the attitude here shows a real defensiveness and unwillingness to explore what is a true skill--and that is exactly what it is, a skill. This isn't magic, or group hypnosis. In the 25 or so years of internal practice, I have had the great fortune to study with lineage masters of Yang (both Ip Tai Tak and Yang Chengfu / Cheng), as well as Chen.
What Shifu Mizner is talking about and demonstrating is a skill. I am not at this level, but I am quite familiar with the efficacy of this neigong. This particular skill, which is beyond basic pushing hands, and which is NOT external san shou, takes time to develop, but it is just as real as any other high-level skill a human is capable of with dedicated work.
The extra backwards travel is probably just due to the smooth floor. It's not a cult. The force is real, just hard to see.
What you say is very true. People who have never experienced this power and its sensation are not just skeptical but often very hostile. But let's also point out that there are so many fakers, charlatans and poseurs around that it builds distrust for anyone demonstrating a power that is real, and if you haven't experienced it you also have no good way to assess what you're viewing to distinguish the real power from the fakery. Finally, the term "skill" seems like maybe a challenging term in English that isn't a very exact description for what is achieved with practice and proper training, but I guess it's the closest we can get to the right word.
This is WITHOUT doubt 1000% cultism. Nothing that Mizner or any of these "chi" gurus do is real in anyway. These guys could flip the martial arts world on its head by simply demonstrating this against unwilling participants and someone from other martial arts that aren't being compliant or frankly seeming like they are brainwashed... but instead we see the same gullible idiots throwing themselves around at the slightest touch and being sent across the room by "magical forces"...
Simple way to debunk: Bring a wrestler or BJJ practitioner to ANY of these seminars and have this stuff done to them. Let them put hands on Mizner and see what happens.. But we all know what won't happen.
This is THE master of ancient forces all of us have, but to control it is a totally different level of sensitivity and all become one
Beautiful!
Do you teach Iron Shirt in your academy?
Excellent theory!
Hi Adam, I'm really interested in this Neigong practice. How do we develop this level of force? Is it mainly a solo practice after being taught the theory and basic practice, or is it necessary to practice in group, like regular weekly classes?
I'd like to come to the Milan workshop in march with Andy. What we'll learn in this seminar will it be enough to carry on on my own?
I haven't done much push hands though, mainly Tai Chi yang long form of Tung's family.
A friend of mine would also like to come, but he's never done any TC, just other external martial arts.
My main interest is for health & well being.
Thanks a lot
an ongoing process with many steps. check out www.discovertaiji.com
@adam mizner that looks awesome! :-)
Are these ecercises also possible sitting in a wheelchair?
yes, i have shown it before in an office chair with wheels
mitzner at mma possible ?
Awesome as always, thanks for sharing! Hope I get the chance to go to a seminar some time :)
i think you have to be very patient to do this it is slow an takes time to learn or not
How do you do it?
You get the other guy to cooperate and jump a bit for you.
Part 3,what do you mean : to bring it to my body?
how you can do this exercises with girls?? you can't push on chest
I really want to experience/feel this.The small jumps that I see as well.Ive yet to experience this.
great actors
Interesting demo. As a natural skeptic I would like to see hire this applies with a non student, particularly from a different combat at such as wrestler or BJJ. Or even a non martial artist with decent power and body connection such as a power lifter. I'm not sure it would work the same? And further hire would this look in a full speed uncooperative situation. It's interesting in this context but if it didn't work in a full speed task fight its as good as useless.
ruclips.net/video/KIPcM2mdowg/видео.html
Allow me an analogy: An average guy is in a street fight with another average guy. Both of them flair a bit, land a few glancing haymakers or jabs, and one of them ducks, closes his eyes (out of fear of being hit), and swings back landing a fist right on the button (or solar plexus), shutting the opponent down. An effect punch by accident that he can't easily repeat. Compare him to a boxer who can land a knockout blow nearly at will on an untrained opponent. Now a littler closer to home ...
In high school, most of us horsed around while walking down the halls. You walk a little out of step, and just before your linebacker or quarterback friend puts his foot down, you step in front of him, tapping him with your hip. You've executed a successful feint and block, in real-time, as he tries to react but before he can recover, so your 4 oz of force jams him into the lockers with a lot of noise and embarrassment, but no real pain. You can't really do this any time you want, but it's enough .... that you get stuffed into a locker by his friends :-) A Tai Chi Master has more tools to do this, and if one method fails, that can lead the opponent into another setup that might succeed, just like with counter-counters in judo.
In judo, you don't hear about breaking an opponent's neck. In Tai Chi, it might be very easy to use more than 4 oz ... and you can imagine the bone shattering effects on a collarbone, rib, or hip, if a shoulder or hip strike were executed, with full knowledge, in a way similar to described above.
In the video, the guy is jumping to try to catch his balance rather than falling. The top grand masters (pick a style) have the ability to adapt and recover their base faster than the rest of us ... due to decades of practice and play.
Trust me - they (he) NEVER will. They just like to play silly little games with each other & think they're oh so clever. They just like to live in their own little deluded fantasy world. He even has the gall to have a picture of Yang lu Chan on the wall in the background. Lu-Chan would just laugh & walk away.
Hank Simon I really don't think Judo can be related to this. It's practical and works, like bjj, for example. This can work as well, but requiers both fighters to understand the system and have developed full control of the chi so that the placebo effect can occur
The Martial Man had a pretty interesting encounter with him. Check out his RUclips channel. I'm skeptical but like Mulder, I want to believe.
@2:51 "that's what she said..."
2:50
"come fast and hard" pretty sure I read that in taiji classics
Your lessons are wonderful without the theatrics.
I really wish I could know what this feels like...
you'll need to find a skilled practitioner/teacher.
I was Lucky to have meta couple.
feels like a balloon filled with air bouncing you back,. the harder and faster you push the more energy is transferred back to you. so if you're not able to yield back as that happens - you end up flat on your ass. lol
IT is a "trip" of a feeling.. I found nothing else like it in the world
Taiji Rules.
Very thank you
Im in UAE sifu,do you know some fajin masters here 🙏
Hi, I am afraid I do not.
@@DiscoverTaijisifu could you tell some reference (books) to know and exicute the exquisite art fajin please.
@@poppypop3566 no books. Your best chance is discovertaiji.com
@@DiscoverTaiji 🙏😇
@@DiscoverTaiji sifu ,what are the basic execrise or workouts for the development and flow of of chi inside me.
This also is possible because the partner has a good level, Tai Chi is about return, if your opponent has good Ching or chi of course stronger he will fly...
In this case he will jump like a spring but not fall because he has steps. But he breaks his knees. It's not about the master. (В этом случае он будет прыгать как пружина, но не падать, потому что у него есть шаги. Но он ломает колени. Мастер тут ни причём.)
What about real punch, with full speed and power?
ruclips.net/video/XuW4UfaC-l8/видео.html&t=
It seems to be no sound, I can't heard any voice. please check it.
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What problem？I can't hear nothing！ No sonud！Please check it！
Good! Нowever, the partner in the white shirt is too artistic:)
You thin so because u do not get whta the guy in black is doing yo him.
I did karate wing chun boxing jujisu, but i know i want do ti chi now, only sad thing is i live darwin Australia, no one here, i must stay becuse my children, i wont leave them, ie ex wife is with bf here,
Why are the students jumping about, are they not taught how to root ?
They are, but as with most things, the better root overrides the lesser
@@truthhurts1884 yes I agree but it's very clear what is and isn't real.
@@jacksprat4862 so what isn't real here? Maybe I can help you understand it a little better
@@truthhurts1884 well I could quite easily help you to understand it a little more
@@jacksprat4862 OK, I'm always open to learning. Do go on
wish I could learn this in south Wales uk
You must have a taichiquan school there.
Its Hua (redirect)
Magical only if it was real
Yeah its not real now go back to gour real life. :)
When Albrecht Dürer drew a picture of a rhinoceros, nobody believed it was real because they simply had no means to go see for themselves due to their situation. So they lived and died in complete assurance that their ignorance backed up by the impossibility of verification. Nowadays, it is common knowledge.
I have traveled and seen this very skill in person. I was not compliant. I saw that it was a real skill. It only appears magical and unreal to those who do not understand how it is done and those who cannot even imagine that it is possible, simply because they cannot do it.
It's not magical, it's physics, very scientific. It's nothing more than practicing long enough to have the sensitivity to adjust to what the other person is doing and messing up his structure.
Ooooo so cooooool
the taichi is a beautiful system to inprove our health, mind, and spiritu, but, why is the reason to atack its nature, with this demostration, why the student fall to the floor, is stupid, for that behaviour the people atack the taichi , because the absurd demostration of super powers , the people think that is a fake, excuse me but a lot of people think the same , when other person diferent to a student atack to the master and doesn't happen nothing
If you watch it at x0,25 youll find hes jumping. The hips go first altough hes being pushed in the hands, so the shoulders and chest should move first, them everything else.
If i werent interested in infernal arts i wouldnt be watching this. And probably i could never ever move this sifu by pushing him. But the student is jumping.
Mikel Roa Nope. The force catches the opponents center, It's not shoving back through their arms
Discover Taiji What do you mean by "catching someones center"?
Dont get me wrong. Id love to believe humans can do such things. I hope ill be able to expirience it someday.
Thanks for the reply.
Go feel it for yourself, it's a different way, it's not pushing or shoving externally. It's taking someones center from underneath them basically and "pushing" if you will, on their center, without having to have the direct contact to their center. It's quite similar to the Wing Chun I learn. CST Wing Chun.
It looks similar to CST wing chun intially but as someone who does CST wing chun I'm far from convinced by Sifu Mizner and am yet to see him against any real or dynamic resistance. Just compare Sifu Jim Fung's one inch punch compared to Mizner's, one is a strike, one is a push. With that said I'm open to changing my opinion if anyone could show me Sifu Mizner against a big guy(that's not his student) or just see how he counters real and dynamic resistance. Having done CST wing chun I'm also very aware of the 'party tricks' that look good but dont really work in combat & so far that's all i've seen from Sifu Mizner so far....
bartronZ - I suppose I doubted his ability in dynamic situations at first, but after watching the videos from the Martial Man that were done on Sifu Mizner, I changed my mind. Sifu Jim fungs 1 inch punch was pretty good. Do you live in Adelaide? I'm studying under Tony Blencowe, who was one of CST's best students. Who do you train under?
Sadly many of you in the comments will never experience true kungfu like this. We live in a day and age where the real stuff like this is called fake, but the high flying staged ruled combat with refs is called real.
Are you ok? I'd love for you to try this on someone who isn't compliant and see where that gets you. this stuff is as real as Harry Potter's magic wand.
I get why you say that. I experienced the fake stuff for 6 years before I found the real kung-fu. I pray you find the real one day. Unless, you simply choose to believe all is fake regardless of the proof. Then you will always be blind
@@Christiangamer84 It's not about believing, it's about it actually working on a person that ISNT compliant or cooperating. I've never seen any of this internal Chi nonsense work on someone that wasn't part of the group and going along with the teacher... hence why Aikido DOESNT work in reality.
I'm happy to be proven wrong, I welcome it... but after 35 years in the martial arts I can spot nonsense when I see it.. This would NEVER work on someone who isn't faking it, and if it has, please show me.
@@brucekai7462ok. Im over 25 years of martial arts, have you met a master that had internal kungfu?
The guy exagerates too much