The Colle System, Lecture by GM Ben Finegold

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  • Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2024

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  • @harveybrant3352
    @harveybrant3352 Месяц назад +33

    The Colle System as played by Colle himself is rarely seen at the highest level nowadays, but Ding Liren actually used it to beat Nepo in a World Championship match last year.

    • @SenatorBluto
      @SenatorBluto Месяц назад

      Wasn't that a London?

    • @harveybrant3352
      @harveybrant3352 Месяц назад +5

      @@SenatorBluto He won with a London in Game 6, and also won with a Colle in Game 12.

    • @DominickDecocko
      @DominickDecocko 23 дня назад

      Ding loves cock n ball torture confirmed.

  • @Rubrickety
    @Rubrickety Месяц назад +42

    I like to play the variant where I instead put my knights on a3 and h3: the Border Colle System.

    • @gieaudio8762
      @gieaudio8762 Месяц назад +3

      Ihahaha, I love it! :)

    • @alanmay6172
      @alanmay6172 Месяц назад +1

      That was the daddest dad joke ever

  • @Sitbear
    @Sitbear Месяц назад +100

    I play this system against low-rated players and kids when I want something even less exciting than the London

    • @sahan.dafcha
      @sahan.dafcha Месяц назад +11

      Booo!

    • @smort123
      @smort123 Месяц назад +2

      I dont see the problem.

    • @thinboxdictator6720
      @thinboxdictator6720 Месяц назад +4

      if you want something less exciting than london,just watch paint dry.
      this is actually better than london.

    • @vigilante8374
      @vigilante8374 Месяц назад +5

      Only if you play it that way. You can go nuts with a kingside attack basically whenever you want unless black defends well. It's only boring at the topmost level when players can defend perfectly. It's so silly that people pretend that these openings are inherently boring played at the below 2200 level. Just because the action doesn't happen on move 3 doesn't mean the action isn't gonna happen.

    • @Sitbear
      @Sitbear Месяц назад +5

      @@vigilante8374 Evidently you’ve never heard of tongue-in-cheek statements. Let me explain: if I really thought the Colle was boring, I wouldn’t play it.

  • @cmdrfun
    @cmdrfun Месяц назад +16

    I first read about the Colle in Irving Chernev's "Logical Chess Move by Move" a long time ago. It was the game Colle-Delvaux 1929. I was sort of amazed that White could make a bunch of moves seemingly without regard at all for Black's moves and then go on to crush Black with a kingside attack. I played it for a while but not really anymore.

  • @pepperwestwood
    @pepperwestwood Месяц назад +16

    22:00 “we’d like to play f3” oh the sacrilege

    • @ProjectHMF
      @ProjectHMF Месяц назад +4

      😂

    • @jogzyg2036
      @jogzyg2036 Месяц назад +5

      THE TRUTH HURTS

    • @ehannan83
      @ehannan83 Месяц назад +1

      35:37 "always kick the knight out with f3"

    • @answeris4217
      @answeris4217 Месяц назад +2

      Never play F3...but he's a GrandMaster so rules don't apply to him

  • @beeble2003
    @beeble2003 Месяц назад +9

    "I didn't know FIDE existed in 1926!"
    Only just! Founded July 1924. Can't say I noticed the 100th anniversary...

  • @answeris4217
    @answeris4217 Месяц назад +2

    Always a great day when I see these lectures thank you

  • @loosekanen
    @loosekanen Месяц назад +11

    Absolutely shocked that this lecture wasn't sponsored by Grandmaster Ken West.

  • @tunac2816
    @tunac2816 Месяц назад

    Colle system was my first opening introduced to me when I was a kid. I used it to beat all the kids but couldn't beat the adults coz they kept using anti-colle opening and the only way to fight that was to transpose it to QGD but I didn't know QGD at the time. Thanks for reminding me this opening and the memories of playing it.

  • @blackmar-diemer3793
    @blackmar-diemer3793 Месяц назад +2

    Soltis wrote a book called something like winning with the colle stonewall torre system. This book helped me win a lot of games againstr high rated players. I tried al lthe systems and I still try them the stonewall has given me the best results in otb tournaments. I play d4 because I don't like playing the sicilian every other game as white.

  • @ykonstant
    @ykonstant 6 дней назад

    That last game was spectacular.

  • @bolovanvalentin1937
    @bolovanvalentin1937 Месяц назад

    Thank you very much for video GM Ben Finegold !!!

  • @robertsweeney1162
    @robertsweeney1162 26 дней назад

    Great video. Nice commentary for those beginner to intermediate players

  • @jogzyg2036
    @jogzyg2036 Месяц назад +3

    8:24 Most colle players don't want an isolated pawn because isolated queens pawns are far too exciting. Not passive enough.

  • @ChessStudentChannel
    @ChessStudentChannel Месяц назад

    Fun and educational, thanks Ben!

  • @Aizen343
    @Aizen343 Месяц назад +2

    I will play the J.Cole system when i'm playing: make a move, regret it, resign and leave the drama for other players

  • @MrIAMpeanut
    @MrIAMpeanut Месяц назад +3

    Its sad that edgard colle died tragically young (only 34) in 1932, he was ill most of his life. Interestingly colle was an early user of alekhine defense too.

  • @emilpietras4428
    @emilpietras4428 Месяц назад +2

    Go Ben!

  • @bigwiffychess503
    @bigwiffychess503 Месяц назад +6

    I play in this system a lot but I suck, I’m curious to see what the finegold says about it

  • @mmmyyykkkeee
    @mmmyyykkkeee Месяц назад +2

    Go Edgard Jerome Bettis Colle! You're the bussed!

  • @jonahzieske8834
    @jonahzieske8834 Месяц назад +2

    I just KNOW that’s a new shirt.

  • @bertwestera1007
    @bertwestera1007 16 дней назад

    I knew that final game, and indeed: it is featured in Euwe's serie Theory of Chess, specifically in the third book on playing the middlegame dealing with attacking the king. So GM Ben was wrong: I hád heard of the player with black in that game, but he was also right, since I had forgotten the player's name...

  • @jackanderson719
    @jackanderson719 Месяц назад

    The colle is a good and useful opening. I enjoyed the games in this vedieo. I first learned about the Colle from a vedieo susan polgar made and that was helpful. For anyone who likes this opening there is a book titeled the Dogs of war. That book is full of Colle games.

    • @OsbornsConcise
      @OsbornsConcise Месяц назад

      That’s a fascinating way to spell video

  • @aarongifs
    @aarongifs 27 дней назад

    i like your shirt ben!

  • @bjgodby
    @bjgodby Месяц назад +1

    I would love to know what brand of shirt Ben is wearing, my wife walks by as I was watching and gave the obligatory "You should have that shirt"

  • @petargadev6630
    @petargadev6630 Месяц назад +2

    Hell yeah😎😎

  • @smejmoon
    @smejmoon Месяц назад +1

    46:33 Ben missed that Nf7+ forks bishop as well. Terrible!

  • @LordBrozart
    @LordBrozart Месяц назад

    I feel like the stonewall attack is just a better version of this opening

  • @aarongifs
    @aarongifs 27 дней назад

    bd1 was classy

  • @tong_thanh5837
    @tong_thanh5837 Месяц назад +1

    When everyone pronounces his name as Koh-Lee, I wonder which language that pronunciation is derived from as I've been saying his name as Koh-luh instead

    • @answeris4217
      @answeris4217 Месяц назад +1

      If anything in my mind the E would be silent. Colle is the French word for glue and the E is silent there. And many words in English the E at the end is silent.
      But there's maybe a reason why it's pronounced like that but I have no idea why.

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 Месяц назад +2

      "Colly" isn't derived from any languate at all. As he was Belgian, I'm not sure if it should be pronounced as in French (kol) or Flemish/Dutch (koll-uh, I guess?).

  • @atwarwithdust
    @atwarwithdust Месяц назад

    I can't even make a Colle stay.

  • @Everything_I_Like
    @Everything_I_Like Месяц назад +3

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    • @morganm1868
      @morganm1868 Месяц назад +1

      dubov is coming soon!

    • @Everything_I_Like
      @Everything_I_Like Месяц назад

      @@morganm1868 that's so exciting! how do you know?

    • @morganm1868
      @morganm1868 Месяц назад +1

      @@Everything_I_Like because I’m the sponsor lol

    • @Everything_I_Like
      @Everything_I_Like Месяц назад

      @@morganm1868 Brilliant!

  • @mrsandmanxj9
    @mrsandmanxj9 Месяц назад +5

    3 pawns down rook ending not good

    • @answeris4217
      @answeris4217 Месяц назад +3

      That's why he's a grandmaster...and I'm not.

    • @sahan.dafcha
      @sahan.dafcha Месяц назад +3

      I should write that down i always forget

  • @BrokenZen311
    @BrokenZen311 Месяц назад

    35:39 but I thought never play F3? Audience is confused.

  • @TheRealMortyII
    @TheRealMortyII Месяц назад +1

    I'm pretty sure Ben is just making up rules as he goes... 🤔🤔

  • @georgeking3513
    @georgeking3513 Месяц назад +2

    Guys if ive been playing chess 7 months and i am rated 1400 is this good or ?

    • @Sitbear
      @Sitbear Месяц назад +7

      According to Reddit, you should be GM in about three years.

    • @nikonyrh
      @nikonyrh Месяц назад +2

      On which website?

    • @knightdreamer81
      @knightdreamer81 Месяц назад +2

      Why does it matter to you what people think? If you want to get better then study. If you want to stay the same then do nothing.

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 Месяц назад +3

      Can't really tell just from a rating. The thing about chess ratings is that they're not a measure of strength: they're a measure of performance within a particular pool of players. That means you can't just say "1400" without saying where you got that rating, because, e.g., 1400 FIDE, 1400 USCF, and 1400 on ten different websites mean twelve different things.
      Having said that, I think 1400 in most places would correspond to a decent rating for a player with only half a year's practice. It seems good. How good? I dunno. But not "bad" and not "amazing". It sounds like you have some aptitude for the game, you're avoiding basic mistakes and probably punishing basic mistakes of your opponents. If you enjoy playing, keep playing. If you enjoy studying, study and you'll get better. At the beginner level, tactics puzzles are probably the best way to improve.

  • @derhonk6270
    @derhonk6270 7 дней назад

    "Weakly sponsored lectures?" :P

  • @danjeory3659
    @danjeory3659 Месяц назад +1

    skjalskjflsdfjskjdflaskjdf. Etc.

  • @CrispyKorn
    @CrispyKorn Месяц назад +1

    Boredom Colle

  • @VARMOT123
    @VARMOT123 Месяц назад +2

    When is the Arjun erigaisi ,-great players of the present video coming up ?