The Benoni: Lecture by GM Ben Finegold

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  • Опубликовано: 25 мар 2024
  • This lecture was recorded March 18, 2024 in Roswell, Georgia. Thank you to Eric Osgood for sponsoring this lecture!!
    Games:
    02:09 Boris Spassky vs Bobby Fischer, 1972
    World Chess Championship Game 3
    18:09 Jonathan Penrose vs Mikhail Tal, Olympiad 1960
    28:33 Viktor Korchnoi vs Garry Kasparov, Olympiad 1982
    44:07 Garry Kasparov vs John Nunn, Olympiad 1982
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Комментарии • 104

  • @sayandas5
    @sayandas5 4 месяца назад +56

    Go Ben!
    I mean Benoni

  • @shadowfantasiesf8556
    @shadowfantasiesf8556 4 месяца назад +17

    I've watched almost all Benoni lessons on RUclips and this one gave me a totally different perspective.
    Not focusing too much on the opening and instead showing how the middle games resolve makes me wanna master this.
    Very entertaining and also great games and stories.

  • @justsomeboyprobablydressed9579
    @justsomeboyprobablydressed9579 4 месяца назад +11

    Great lecture! This is why I love chess. Games like these. I get more enjoyment out of watching Ben talk about great games than I get out of playing chess myself.

  • @jaa928
    @jaa928 4 месяца назад +5

    Great timing with several Benoni games iin yesterday's Grenke top section. Go Ben!

  • @steven99456
    @steven99456 4 месяца назад +12

    thanks, I waited 4 years for this

  • @jogzyg2036
    @jogzyg2036 4 месяца назад +28

    The benoni opening is on the d and c files.
    The benkenobi opening is single file, to hide their numbers.

    • @peterittzes
      @peterittzes 4 месяца назад +2

      And you have to say "Hello there!" before you start the game.

  • @beeble2003
    @beeble2003 4 месяца назад +40

    Great lecture from Neb Dlogenif. He looks like Ben Finegold but keeps suggesting f3 as a move, and doesn't say all the Ben things, like "always retreat", "no talking", "knife f4" (for Black), "put it in H", ...

    • @trowftd
      @trowftd 3 месяца назад +2

      he didn't say Never Play f6 when black played f6 in the last game!

  • @fredflint3998
    @fredflint3998 4 месяца назад +9

    Great video Ben, I love that you used a Fischer game as an example. Very lucid straight forward explanations 👍.

  • @rodrigez5098
    @rodrigez5098 4 месяца назад +8

    Love the lectures Ben, i've been watching for years, thanks for all the content

  • @lasshrugged
    @lasshrugged 4 месяца назад +11

    Where is the Ben bot? RAWR! I've never been so mad.

    • @monsignorjames
      @monsignorjames 4 месяца назад +2

      I was going to say this exact thing, word for word, RAWR Anne frankly I've never been so angry

  • @David-tm9wr
    @David-tm9wr 4 месяца назад +23

    So many people dismiss Benoni as an unsound opening because super GMs don't play it. Ridiculous. It seems to me that it's one of those openings in which the better player wins. It's a fighting weapon that gives interesting positions for both sides, and if it was good enough for Fischer in his match against Spassky, it's good enough for me! I am glad that you are lecturing on it.
    1.d4, c5 is the only true Chad move order too!

    • @mariamariamariazinha
      @mariamariamariazinha 4 месяца назад

      I agree, also Nice pfp

    • @pastorofmuppets4552
      @pastorofmuppets4552 4 месяца назад

      “The better player wins” Isn’t that just chess?

    • @12jswilson
      @12jswilson 4 месяца назад

      It's funny because just today Carlsen beat Keymer with the modern Benoni today in slow rapid format

    • @David-tm9wr
      @David-tm9wr 3 месяца назад +1

      @@mariamariamariazinha Thanks! Love the old MTV and Daria!

  • @VFomalhaut
    @VFomalhaut 4 месяца назад +1

    I was just thinking about the benoni like 6 hours ago, and 4 hours ago you got this up. thanks!

  • @snared_
    @snared_ 4 месяца назад +1

    just coming from the czech benoni lecture. Thanks for the wins over the years,B

  • @Rubrickety
    @Rubrickety 4 месяца назад +4

    Jonathan Penrose's brother is pretty clever too.

  • @jasmint6703
    @jasmint6703 4 месяца назад +2

    Two exciting Benoni games were played in the Grenke tournament, basically just as this video was released, in like the last two or three days, both with Carlsen with both colors. Clearly the world champ watches these lectures with fervor. Seriously check out the games if you get a chance. Carlsen-Rapport and Keymer-Carlsen.

  • @Steveross2851
    @Steveross2851 4 месяца назад +3

    It’s interesting that all of the games in this lecture are over 40 years old with a current or future World Champion involved. The most recent “super Grandmaster” to play the Benoni seems to be Fabiano Caruana who played some games with it in 2016 and a few with it in 2020. It makes sense that it’s no longer seen much at the top level since there are so many more top level tournaments now but losing is also much more costly now in terms of risk of losing tournament invites. Because of its tactical nature it doesn’t seem to be a very practical opening to play unless one is paired down and even then as we saw in the featured Tal game it’s pretty risky. I don't play it myself, at least not unless I'm pretty confident I can outplay my opponent tactically.

  • @davyanonymous9674
    @davyanonymous9674 4 месяца назад

    Thank you, Ben. Very instructive.

  • @luxtenebris7246
    @luxtenebris7246 4 месяца назад +10

    I love the Benoni, but there is nothing worse than that feeling when you play it against a strong positional player and they just shut down all your play and you are stuck shuffling around in a cramped set up with no active plan that doesn't involve losing a lot of material.

  • @WhizzerdSupreme
    @WhizzerdSupreme 4 месяца назад +4

    Little known rule: Always play c5
    1. E4? C5
    1. D4? C5
    1. C4? C5

    • @timwheeler8523
      @timwheeler8523 4 месяца назад +1

      All good except against c4! Boring .... (Against e4 and d4, yes!)

    • @NichtWunderkind
      @NichtWunderkind 4 месяца назад

      Against c4, Nc6 and then c5

    • @crclayton
      @crclayton 4 месяца назад +3

      I do this… I premove c5. When I was lower rated my d4 opponents would routinely think it was an accident try, to their detriment, taking and holding onto it.

    • @WhizzerdSupreme
      @WhizzerdSupreme 4 месяца назад +1

      @@crclayton Same! 🤣

  • @robbo1415
    @robbo1415 3 месяца назад +1

    This game was adjourned with Fischer sealing the final bishop check in an envelope. Spassky resigned next day after seeing the sealed move. The first victory over Spassky in Fischer’s career.

  • @mikhailnizayev
    @mikhailnizayev 4 месяца назад

    Thank you so much

    • @RaineriHakkarainen
      @RaineriHakkarainen 4 месяца назад

      Kaarle Ojanen vs Keres in 1960 should have been here! Penrose copy Ojanen's idea f5! Poor Finegold never mentonied said Spassky's Errors like g3????

  • @matthewpaul985
    @matthewpaul985 3 месяца назад

    Thanks

  • @cryptosquirrel5667
    @cryptosquirrel5667 4 месяца назад

    Love the stories. they bring humanity to the game.

  • @Neura1net
    @Neura1net 4 месяца назад +2

    Ben on the Benoni is benificial to my meded mind

  • @WastrelWay
    @WastrelWay 4 месяца назад +1

    I didn't learn the Benoni when I was learning to play chess. But it kept popping up in the games I learned. And there's nothing wrong with it as far as I can see, nothing worse than the Sicilian or the French. :-)

  • @ric1watts
    @ric1watts 3 месяца назад

    Korchnoi vs Kasparov, my favorite game of all-time ! Ben's analyses is very good, when I tried to look at it myself, I had no idea what was going on 😂

  • @crclayton
    @crclayton 4 месяца назад +1

    That pawn break to NOT take back but leave the pawn to leave it and blockade it so it obstructs black’s own pieces is a really inspired idea if he came up with it OTB.

  • @Evilanious
    @Evilanious 4 месяца назад +1

    That third game is in line with my experience playing the Benoni (normally from the white side). The position is always completely over my head.

  • @walterk.3576
    @walterk.3576 3 месяца назад

    the best ben finegold show so far🥂

  • @cparks1000000
    @cparks1000000 4 месяца назад +1

    1:55 This is the most common position in the Benoni.

  • @Rubrickety
    @Rubrickety 4 месяца назад +1

    I don't know if the Benoni is the best opening, but I think it might be the opening that's the most fun to say a bunch of times fast.

  • @alipakdin7372
    @alipakdin7372 4 месяца назад

    Hi Ben, That was a very nice lecture, thanks, I guess between your serious lectures and somewhat more humours ones, I like the serious ones better, but of course I like them both, Thanks alot our beloved GM

  • @toniright4932
    @toniright4932 4 месяца назад

    Uuu this is a good one. My favorite opening, my favorite World Campion, and of course my favorite Lektor B.F.

  • @Devic13
    @Devic13 4 месяца назад +1

    My mom calls me a benoni when I'm being an idiot

  • @TalsBadKidney
    @TalsBadKidney 4 месяца назад +1

    Go Ben!!

  • @ircjesselee
    @ircjesselee 4 месяца назад +1

    After age 60, it's hard to get a Benoni.

  • @kozodoev
    @kozodoev 4 месяца назад

    Finally an opening named after Ben.

  • @isaacbragg-gardiner2456
    @isaacbragg-gardiner2456 4 месяца назад +1

    With so many opening lectures coming, SURELY we'll get a bird lecture soon :)

  • @thomas11eleventm
    @thomas11eleventm День назад

    5:44 best part 😂😂😂

  • @tisoy4ever
    @tisoy4ever 4 месяца назад

    Benoni was just played in Grenke Chess. Vincent vs Magnus and also Magnus vs Rapport

  • @nbeqo
    @nbeqo 4 месяца назад

    Thanks, the best video so far, only one mistake :) ... that was Kasparov's mother, not the KGB, that said how is Kasparov going to save the game and it was not even his move....

  • @matthewpaul985
    @matthewpaul985 3 месяца назад +1

    Proper chess player

  • @peterbauer7271
    @peterbauer7271 3 месяца назад

    Thanks for an interesting lecture on opening theory. The 3rd game of world championship ‘72 was unique after round 2 give up by bobby. Who was it who said the good player is always lucky? I suspect he was a chess player…

  • @SanyaJuutilainen
    @SanyaJuutilainen 4 месяца назад

    Go Benoni!
    I mean Ben

  • @rickdynes
    @rickdynes 4 месяца назад +1

  • @kmarasin
    @kmarasin 4 месяца назад

    Looks like Nh5 is not played, mainly because it's not difficult to suggest improvements for white. After Qh4 for example, stockfish suggests (never play) f3 with a big advantage.

  • @singh.jayesh1866
    @singh.jayesh1866 4 месяца назад

    I think in the last game white had Queen to g4 winning a whole knight at the very least

  • @ouridabenali6699
    @ouridabenali6699 4 месяца назад +2

    Your bot defeated me

  • @hfontanez98
    @hfontanez98 4 месяца назад

    This video is full of Benoni.

  • @GymChess
    @GymChess 4 месяца назад

    Knife f5 is always a killer. 😜

  • @mrhardbiz62
    @mrhardbiz62 4 месяца назад

    That Korchnoi Kasparov game is too much, my brain broke

    • @DarkSideChess
      @DarkSideChess 4 месяца назад

      That was wild. In a Benoni, basically the better calculator wins.

  • @NS-mm6jq
    @NS-mm6jq 4 месяца назад

    How to make a donation and offer a topic of the next lecture?

  • @trent797
    @trent797 4 месяца назад

    I was curious if Jonathan Penrose was related to Roger Penrose. Turns out they are brothers. Smart family.

  • @koahnoah
    @koahnoah 4 месяца назад

    Yo it would be cool as hell if some one sponsored a nimzo indian lecture.

  • @randybailin4902
    @randybailin4902 4 месяца назад

    Benoni Finegoldoni

  • @CNCTEMATIC
    @CNCTEMATIC 4 месяца назад

    the mike is picking up a lot of squelchy noises

  • @user-ws2li1lv5x
    @user-ws2li1lv5x 3 месяца назад

    Magnus CarIsen has pIayed some very instructive and amazing Benoni games as BIack too, he is aIways weII prepared ! Just check databases since 2016 !

  • @KeyserSoze-sb8vx
    @KeyserSoze-sb8vx 3 месяца назад

    Why no white knight to C5 at 11:58 to attack the queen and bishop?

    • @adc7071
      @adc7071 Месяц назад

      probably because the light squared bishop on c8 can take but idk

  • @bobobandy9382
    @bobobandy9382 4 месяца назад

    Wasn't Ne5 just game over?

  • @yotoober1
    @yotoober1 4 месяца назад +1

    Funny that when I first started playing chess and I saw that name as an opening defense, then I thought that it was invented by some eye talian guy who played chess. 🤣
    (name ends in a vowel)

  • @denniseldridge9266
    @denniseldridge9266 4 месяца назад

    Alice Lee vs Krush

  • @CrispyKorn
    @CrispyKorn 4 месяца назад +1

    Obi-Wan Benoni

  • @ShayWestrip
    @ShayWestrip 4 месяца назад +1

    Balogne

  • @ilanpi
    @ilanpi 4 месяца назад

    Son of sorrow

  • @tomas-wi8dy
    @tomas-wi8dy 4 месяца назад +1

  • @veexish
    @veexish 4 месяца назад +117

    Tip for Benoni players : stop playing the Benoni

    • @jaasonjones4419
      @jaasonjones4419 4 месяца назад +36

      The truth hurts.

    • @yotoober1
      @yotoober1 4 месяца назад +5

      Stop playing it unless you're stock 🐟

    • @SloppyJennyMusic
      @SloppyJennyMusic 4 месяца назад +8

      I beat a lot of guys with benoni

    • @RaineriHakkarainen
      @RaineriHakkarainen 4 месяца назад +1

      Should have been Ojanen vs Keres from 1960! Penrose copied Ojanen's idea f5!

    • @heyumnew1401
      @heyumnew1401 4 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, play the czech benoni

  • @dannyhuang8773
    @dannyhuang8773 4 месяца назад

    "typically that would not have a name."
    meanwhile scholars and fools mate

  • @mikhailnizayev
    @mikhailnizayev 4 месяца назад

    I play it with black

  • @josephsummerhays4650
    @josephsummerhays4650 2 месяца назад

    Obi wan Benoni

  • @philipbourgeois6631
    @philipbourgeois6631 4 месяца назад

    Go Ben....RRrrarggh

  • @douglasquaid7550
    @douglasquaid7550 4 месяца назад

    Ben Oni

  • @paulgoogol2652
    @paulgoogol2652 4 месяца назад

    Nobody is really good at chess but some try to get better, except for people like Hans who try to cheat better.

  • @douglaslarosa8782
    @douglaslarosa8782 4 месяца назад

    I loved this lecture! I think I'll try playing it a few times only to prove I'm the worse player 🥲