4 Mysterious Deaths and Disappearances | Answers With Joe
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As humans, we abhor unanswered questions. So when people go missing or die mysteriously, we turn to some pretty out-there answers. Here are 4 famous ones and what we think really happened.
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Michael Rockefeller:
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The Highway of Tears:
www.thecanadianencyclopedia.c...
www.gq.com.au/lifestyle/trave...
Dyatlov Pass:
dyatlovpass.com/page.php?lang...
Mary Celeste:
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Yes, I say in the beginning there are 5 stories. One got cut for time. Might be a stand-alone video later on.
No biggie Joe.
What was it that fascinated him so much? Probably the forced sodomization of young boys.
You never cease to surprise me with your clever intros!!
Sooner than later.
Now I gotta relearn how to tie a bowline knot.
"I can definitely swim that. It only looks like three or...ten miles."
"Oh, okay..."
"it doesn't look that far"
...three hours later...
"Well fuck me'
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
i could probably swim that
about 5 hours swimming would be pretty easy
@@aldri346 It depends on your condition, water temperature, and current.
Hold my beer.
Joe: humans desire closure. Here's 5 stories without closure.
Judge Carter?
😂
Got em’
@William Griffin She was known to be a VERY POOR PILOT.
@William Griffin The evidence that assumption is based on has been proven false time and time again. The ocean is a big place, it's not hard for a small plane to go missing.
As a medic in the army I can tell you with absolute certainty that explosive concussion waves can cause severe internal injuries without outward damage being obvious. Especially to the chest cavity and head. Science.
But how could it cause internal injuries with no outward sign on some of them but not everybody? I believe you are telling the truth, I just don't think it applies to dyatlov pass.
@@natecloe8535 blast injuries are fascinating (and obviously tragic, but interesting nonetheless). there are tons of factors that determine the severity of injuries, such as proximity to a blast, the surrounding terrain, if there is anything blocking a person from being hit with all of the force of the blast (like a tree or some other natural barriers), etc. the thing i found most interesting when reading about blast injuries is the way that they’re treated. usually those with the most mild cases go to the hospitals first and the most injured people are treated by EMS and get to the hospital significantly later. this actually does help medical staff predict the number of victims and it helps them prepare to treat the most injured people.
another thing to note is that people with TBI (traumatic brain injuries) act almost exactly the same as somebody with PTSD so it’s very difficult to tell who is suffering from mental illness vs who has a brain injury (not that both conditions shouldn’t receive immediate medical attention, but just that it’s hard to determine the extent of injuries). this is all according to the CDC, i became interested and read some of their articles on different types of injuries people get in war.
my point is, it’s very very difficult to tell if the injuries of the poor russian hikers were caused by an explosion of some type, but it does seem like a probable explanation. not many injuries are entirely internal.
It was an avalanche, technical advances allowed us to create a simulation of the event showing it was an avalanche
@@natecloe8535 happens constantly just look at injuries especially in Afghanistan...it's how the blast goes out...there is also tons of documentation of this in Japan when the bombs dropped...it's actually extremely well known to anyone who does research
@@colorqueen_6473 People don't want real answers. They want everything to be ghosts, aliens, divine intervention.
My mother’s babysitter was actually a victim on the highway of tears. Funnily enough here in Canada, the “official number” of missing women is something like 18, but everyone here in BC knows it could be in the hundreds - the police don’t really do a lot about it here.
How do you all know it could be in the hundreds? I have heard some people say it could be as many as 40 but never in the hundreds.
@@HendersonHinchfinch I could see it being in the 100s. Run aways and people not from the area and really have no one that is going to look for them go missing. It would not take much to make someone disapear without anyone go looking for them. The US has a big problem with native american woman going missing and are never found. And the local cops not really carring.
@@HendersonHinchfinchI’m not from the area, but I’ve seen enough literature on the area that it has multiple, multiple types of causes, and police have actually been indicated on more than a few of the missing (but not declared dead) individuals. It’s really a prime area for opportunistic killers, people getting lost in the elements, etc. high poverty, low availability of public transport, and police that don’t take reports seriously.. so many are just classed as runaways. It’s like serial killers targeting prostitutes and drug addicts-police tend to just shrug and go oh well, they must’ve “disappeared” themselves. That kind of mentality absolutely attract and or encourage perpetrators.
Missing Native American women are also not taken seriously in the US too.
The video started buffering at "Dickens was known for his cliffhangers". Sometimes the universe is funny like that.
@Maggie Kayvee I had to wait for his next sentence. I was left with a cliffhanger after he mentioned cliffhangers.
It's not a bug, it's a feature.
@@joescott therefore EA can make you pay more for bugs
Wait this isn't a sex joke
@@joescott it just works.
I'm still wondering where Cotton Eye Joe came from and where he went.
StaypuftMarshmallowMan well played
Who cares where he is!! If it wasn’t for that damn Cotton-eyed Joe, I woulda been married a long time ago!
Same
Cotton Eye Joe ended up porkin' the blonde chick from Ace Of Base. He now resides in Norway and goes by "Sven".
18:01 reaction of Future generations when they hear that people who got Covid 19 started travelling around the world for no reason..
The dyatlov pass mystery has been recently solved. A small avalanche occured and fell on top of their tent. Hence them cutting their ways out of the tent and the intense internal injuries. The "shallow slope" thing was disproven, the slope was actually around 30 degrees and there was an underlying snow layer on the mountain that made the snow very slippery. Among other things scientists used the same avalanche and snow simulations used in the movie Frozen.
It is most definitely not solved. What you are describing is just a theory and there are things that contradict the avalanche theory. Have you watched LEMMINO's video on the subject because he presents his own theory on what happened and it matches the evidence quite well.
As yes, the classic pants irradiating avalanche.
@@Rock-Lickertwo of the people in the party worked with radioactive elements and safety culture was a bit more lax back then.
I get that some of the missing 411 cases sometimes get rolled into the "out there" theories but if u look at a lot of them logically, there is some weird shit happening in the wildlife of the world. IMO.
I totally agree with you!
Yes. I agree. Either it's in montains or forest in the wild. It's so insane that no1 has come out with a cause or answer.. There 's gotta be some type of evil spirit flying in these areas. I can't never come up with an idea about it. Only unnatural things like UFOs or spirits. That's my opinion..
Fr like who's gonna drag a 2 year old up a mountain 😨
Most of these stories have been disproven or solved. There’s *very few* that are mysterious at all. The dude is a con man.
@@jendubay3782 Con man who? Joe? Rockefeller? The boat?
Quarantine is better with a little bit of Joe in the morning.
Wish I could like this comment twice. This was really entertaining. Well written, Joe. Though, it's evening for me right now.
Joe Scott and Joe Java
A little dreadful this time, but agree.
Or at night with spooky stuff!
Nice play on words.
It’s not a mystery why I enjoy this channel so much.
Nonaligned Videos how tf did you comment 17 hours ago is the vid just came out
@@tylerruckh4687 as a Patreon contributor I get early access to the videos.
18:01 reaction of Future generations when they hear that people who got Covid 19 started travelling around the world for no reason..
Wtf this came out 2 hours ago, you commented 19 hours ago
@@CitrusMike OMG WTF HAO NOOOOOO. Dude are you new to the Internet?
Thank you so much for including Alberta Williams! This is still such a HUGE issue in Canada today in 2022 and so many indigenous woman go missing all the time! It's not just indigenous, but it's A LOT!!! To many for it to be okay. 🧡🧡🧡
Caitlyn Doughty (Ask a Mortician) did a video about the Dyatlov Pass involving the animators from the movie Frozen being brought on to help figure it out.
Love that channel! Joe Scott's and Caitlyn Doughty's presentation styles and senses of humour are quite similar.
Yeah. Didn't they conclude that it actually *was* an avalanche, which was still possible despite the shallow slope because of the way that new snow settled on top of old snow. Or something.
The avalanche theory doesn't cover all the actual evidence. It was far more gruesome than snow could do and radioactive. Ps. Disney animators aren't experts on anything except Disney animation. Why don't you ask a Plumber to tell you what happened.
@@MW-nOttawaI mean, IIRC the original Jurassic Park ended up advancing research into dinosaurs at the time, so it's not impossible that a sufficiently advanced animation algorithm could help inform conclusions about an avalanche
@@MW-nOttawa The radioactive pants are best explained by the fact that two of them worked with radioisotopes in their studies.
They were found in several groups. Those with severe trauma were found (months later) in a snow hole cut by a creek. They'd fallen in.
I actually drove on the highway of tears while going to visit my aunt and uncle. It is so eerie and depressing. So many First Nations women go missing in Canada, it’s a serious problem that needs much more attention.
yeah it's kinda sad how much people in Canada ignore it I mean they literally not even that long ago knocked down a bunch of they're houses to build a road
It’s actually split pretty evenly between white and First Nations women, and some guys have vanished there as well. Even today, you still see people hitchhiking around Moricetown, Hazelton, etc. Mostly seems to be teen girls. WTH? 🤷🏻♂️
If this is not being given attention by Canadian authorities, it certainly should. A bunch of First Nations women just disappearing needs to be invested and I mean a seriious investigation. If not then Canada's reputation as a non-raciat society is just another lie. (I don't believe that for a moment and this lack of investigation into these women's disappearances tend to reinforce my belief).
@@jusportel I see that down here in the states, too, despite repeated warnings that hitchhiking in very dangerous. Maybe it's a belief that they won't become a statistic.
@@harrietharlow9929 yeah no Canada is still very racist especially in older people for both black and native (coming from a Canadian) actually they have hidden the fact that natives are attacked for ages
Sadly; to this day women still go missing on the highway of tears, it's great you covered this overlooked issue. My best wishes and love go out to all my native sisters 🧡
no more native women go missing than other women... and the ones that are killed are usually killed by native men. an equal amount of native men disappear or re murdered. You people need to get a grip
@@alistairbalistair9596 And where do you get your facts from?? Because it's a known statistic among Native communities and reserves, obviously you arent too educated on the matter; your ignorance is astonishing.
@@user-ey4uk6wl8p astonishing! LOL
@@alistairbalistair9596 Yeah, you sound ignorant
@@alistairbalistair9596 takes a really cold soul to tell somebody who is speaking out for indigenous women and their safety to ‘get a grip’...
You probably hear this way too often but your delivery is impeccable. Just the right amount of funny with ZERO cheesy-ness. Superb❤
Thank you for mentioning the highway of tears. A lot of non- British Columbian youtubers have been talking about it lately which is amazing for bringing the awareness.
I grew up on the highway of tears. I live 5 minutes from a monument dedicated to the victims 💔 I knew one of the victims you pictured, grew up with her. Sadly, her remains have not yet been found 😔
May All Victims of such violence Rest In Peace. 😔
I'm so sorry for your loss. May the culprit be brought to justice, and her family find peace
Same 😔
my grandpa is the founder of the moosehide campaign, the entire idea of the campaign started on the highway
edit: i don't mean to flex or anything, just that i have connections and i feel the pain
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"
Never admit to malice when stupidity is so easily faked.
A dangerous, irresponsible, thought-terminating cliche. We can only pray law enforcement and investigators never jump to such a naive conclusion 😑
Joe Regan Not really because most law enforcement problems that have been attributed to malice are not adequately explainable by stupidity.
@@drmadjdsadjadi A grand sweeping, unsubstantatited assertion. [Citation needed] How about we all just lay of the mindless aphorisms and take the facts of each case as they are, and form theories based on those facts instead of skeptic nursery rhymes
@@joeregan2734 Actually most criminals are caught out by their own stupidity. The quotation doesn't say that there is no malice in the world either, or that it shouldn't be considered. If something can be explained by incompetence or stupidity, it's usually the answer.
Rest In Peace to all the victims. For those of the highway of tears, there needs to be more justice and more done for them, the families and the communities
I live in Prince Rupert on highway 16 (highway of tears) and knew 2 of the girls Ramona Wilson and Delphine Nikal that went missing. I'm always very happy to this covered thank you so much. It is strongly believed it is around 40 and a few of those victims were murdered by a copycat killer
I know that it's not but a missing tongue sounds really personal. 🫀
Wow: I'm really happy to see that you're covering the Highway of Tears. In the 1990s, the RCMP in Vancouver discounted the disappearance of high risk women (ie. drug addicts and prostitutes) for years. It turns out they were being tortured and mutilated in the Picton pig farm outside of Vancouver. It could have been stopped years prior had the police considered them important enough to investigate.
Something similar happened with the Peter Sutcliffe, AKA the Yorkshire Ripper.
His first murder was in October 1975, however by that point he had already assaulted four women - three in July and August that year, and one in 1969. At least one of those assaulted in summer '75 had been able to give a visual description, resulting in a drawing of his face, while the woman assaulted in 1969 had given the police enough information to identify Sutcliffe specifically. The police had interviewed him in 1969 and he'd admitted the assault, but the police didn't take the case any further because the victim was a prostitute.
So before the first murder even happened, the police had at least one drawing of the Yorkshire Ripper's face, and had already interviewed him in relation to an assault on a woman where he confessed his guilt.
After the second murder, in January '76, the police figured out there was a serial killer on the loose pretty quickly, but they also decided that he had a target profile - in their minds, "sluts and whores" - and this led them to ignore all three of his victims from summer '75 as they didn't fit this profile. Similarly the woman assaulted in 1969 was ignored due to the six year gap and different MO. Even when Sutcliffe targeted women who didn't fit that profile, the police stuck to it obsessively because it fitted with their own prejudices, and so the bodycount continued to climb. At least ten of the murders could have been prevented if it wasn't for the prejudices of the senior officers in charge of the case.
tavdy79 Infuriating...and infuriatingly unsurprising, as it seems this general attitude among police is a universal phenomenon even to this day. “Serve and Protect” my ass.
To demonstrate the lack of concern of the police service regarding these disappearances , read "Just another Indian " .
@@KooblyK Don't forget about the one victim, Edwards that half escaped Jeffrey Dahmer. The police intercepted Edwards. Dahmer explained it away as a lover's quarrel. Police need to be hired for IQ, not neck size.
@@missesvee5132 How disgusting. Brushing off the classic class division problem as muh racism only furthers us from resolving this centuries old issue.
Your shirt says "Answers With Joe", but i'm still waiting for my ANSWERS, JOE.
These are just RANDOM TRIVIA! Where are the real answers, the ones THE GOVERNMENT doesn't want you to know, like the reason why there are so many MATTRESS STORES!
@@scritoph3368 there will probably be another boom in mattress sales after the economy heals
You spend about 1/3 of your life in bed.
He's pleading the 5th
Um, he said it. ALIENS. Gosh!🙄
When I was a young woman , I believed in all kinds of paranormal things. As I matured and gained some knowledge of the world I became critical in my views of such things. I like to think I still have an open mind. Now however I find that with most mysteries the simple explanation is the most likely the answer. Joe Scott, I enjoy your videos. Your content is intelligently delivered and interesting. Thank you!
I’m blown away I’ve never heard or read of the untied rope on the Mary Celeste, I think your theory is solid and the best I’ve heard. I’d almost consider it solved tbh, Occam’s Razor all the way on this one
Thing is the rope was cut, not untied
@@joniii_ Maybe the crew left behind a pipe or candle that was still lit, which ignited the alcohol vapors and caused a big blowout.
Then the crew cut the rope, thinking the ship would go down soon, but the blowout didn't even light the ship on fire.
Then they watched the ship sail away.
#1: Rockefeller ended up as snack food.
#2: Highway of Tears is an ongoing tragedy. Vast numbers of women missing.
#3: Dyatlov Pass is a complete mystery. Too many weird theories.
#4: Mary Celeste. Hmmmmmm. The Sirens called them off the ship.
#5: You should do more of these!
Dyatlov pass is pretty much solved, and parachute mines/weapons testing by the Russian military is the answer.
@@bgilley8199 not really. there were some new clues that lead to the surviving member that left the party before the incident. Also empty / wrong filled graves and so on that rather points to a very strange cover up.
@@herrschmidt5477 well obviously there's been a cover up if it was the Russian military/weapons testing. As far as "clues" that point to one man killing all the victims, not sure what you're referring to, and I've seen no coherent theory ever that points to a single person murdering the skiers.
@@bgilley8199 Unlikely that the military would make a mistake and then cover it up. And even if that was the case, l really can't imagine people being terrified by unexpected weapon use close by in the middle of a dark night.
@@SofaKingShitI know right? Unimaginable!
I once sailed from Aden to Malé in the Maldives as a crew member on a big yacht. The sea was flat calm, like a mirror. One evening, just before sunset, when the sky was gold and the ocean was purple, the captain put the engine in neutral so the crew could take a swim. A bunch of us jumped a little too soon, and the yacht, although no longer underway, was still gliding along silently. Those of us in the water had a long swim before we caught back up. I wasn't worried, it wasn't too far, but the sight of the boat moving away gave me the exact perspective of a man over board. Something that I had often contemplated, having done enough training to rescue one, and having spent plenty of time quietly staring across the horizon on innumerable watch shifts aboard various vessels. We were hundreds of miles from land and a couple of kilometres from the bottom, I felt pretty damned insignificant I can tell you. Sobering stuff.
And that's why I find the ocean to be utterly terrifying.
A local yacht had a similar tale, except they drowned. They were all drunk, just a local cruise, and someone jumped over the side, it looked like fun so they all jumped in, only to discover no one has dropped the ladder. They couldn’t get back on the boat, all but two drowned. So the survivors told the story of the drunken mistake, but if all had drowned then it would have suddenly been another mystery.
"a couple of kilometres from the bottom" that sent shivers down my spine the ocean is terrifying
Thank you for the compliments.
Friends dad tried sail-surfing on a Mediterranean holiday, when the wind took over and sent this overly confident novice to the next country. If I remember correctly, he started from Greece and ended up in Turkey. The Turkish coastguard had to take him back on a boat. The distance wasnt that much, but he said later that was the first time he felt truly alone; not able to steer, too much speed for comfort, only open water around and _maybe_ something in the horizon. Now, some decades later, its only a funny anecdote, but he wasnt too amused at the time. The coastguards had been, tho :)
I like your theory on Marie Celeste because it's possible. People those times gets easily nervous, panic immediately and would do whatever they thought they should, especially when the captain was the one who give orders... It's really sad because most likely they were all in shock.
"Could it have been pirats?" Along with not taking the valuables, pirats were usually dependent on the food they stole from ships to keep them selves alive.
Pirates, will take it ALL, so no, this was not pirates, All the goods plus the ship would be theirs and they wouldn’t be letting it go, pirate life
Valuables and supplies to be traded, pirates dream
Not pirates, silly, Pirats. They’re rats. Made of pie. And they live in the mountains where they loot and plunder hikers. That’s why you’re always supposed to carry cheese with you.
Your analysis of the case of the Mary Celeste has the ring of perfection. I might add that aerosolized alcohol can be ingested by respiration, which might have led to actual alcohol intoxication. And denatured alcohol is nearly 200 proof or nearly 100% pure, which is a very volatile liquid, easily evaporated. That would have been an extremely hazardous cargo, then and now. Many times denatured alcohol also has some poisons added to make it unusable for imbibement. This voyage was kind of a recipe for disaster when you look at the whole situation. Very unfortunate.
jbj27406 That’s what denatured alcohol is.
I like the explanation that a barrel broke and fearful that the ship could explode they gathered in the life boat at a safe distance tethered to the ship. This makes even more sense considering there was a family on board with a young daughter and the crew would naturally feel very protective of her as they may not have seen their own children for many months. A rope long enough to be far enough from the ship would probably have to have been tied hastily from a number of mooring ropes and it's possible that one of the ropes had been damaged by rats or dry rot. The incident may have happened after dark as it's mentioned the indention of the young girl on the bed was evident, thereby allowing the bad portion of rope to go unnoticed or it was so hastily done they didn't take the time to check. I hope they died suddenly in a squall and that's the reason the lifeboat wasn't found, rather than dying slowly on the open ocean.
This does seem most likely for Marie Celeste, and this seems the saddest of these stories. The smallest of details can have the gravest result.
That was my first thought but then I realized the ship was only 6 Nautical Miles from the Azores, I would have thought sea faring people could have made it that far.
I was thinking this myself.
"Imagine it came down to one badly-tied knot." Yep, that sounds exactly like life. We don't even realise what little things are changing our future trajectories every day.
I've seen expert riggers tie a failure of a knot under pressure; I've never gotten confident enough with rigging to screw up a knot unless I tie my own head in knots worrying and rechecking first.
I’ve worked around ethanol gas, they use it to ripen bananas. And it will choke the crap out of you! Take your breath away and make your eyes water. So I can imagine them being in a big hurry to get away from that. It would be very easy to make a mistake while you can’t breath.
@@alphagt62 your comment kinda sells me on that theory. I'm wavering because ..if you're going to be out on the lifeboat for several minutes, seems like a great time for a smoke so, why leave the tobacco behind.. ..must have been a pressing, PRESSING reason to leave that fast.
@@alphagt62 No, they use ethylENE gas, not ethanol. Ethanol is just alcohol.
@@alphagt62 interesting! Didn't know they used ethanol to ripen bananas
It's interesting rewatching this knowing now what most likely happened at Dyatlov Pass because of a Disney movie.
I came down here to say the same thing, basically - "Frozen solved Dyatlov!"
I love your content! I am also fascinated by mysterious things that happen, especially if they are true. I’ve spent way too much time listening to you & it will probably continue. Thanks for sharing!
Lemino did a video on the russian mystery (the third one) called "the dyaltov pass case" he did a deep dive and got a lot of translators and come to a pretty convincing conclusion.
@Brett Haffner I was going to comment on exactly that - Lemmino's excellent breakdown. Now, he also talked about that missing flight (I forget the name and I'm busy cooking supper) and that was also excellent.
I was searching for this comment lol
Erika Ertl Meech malaysian airlines flight 370.
@@obviouslymatt6452 Thanks!
Brett Haffner what was the conclusion?
0:27... "Dickens was known for his cliff hangers" then my WiFi dropped and I was sat here with a buffering circle thinking Ohhh Joe you joker you ..
Then I realised it was actually the wifi 🙃 🤦♂️
This channel has brought me and my sons so much happiness over the past year. Collectively, we are more knowledgeable and it feels good! My 6 year old loves going to school to talk about what he learned from Joe! Although, he can only grasp some of the subjects but I try to explain them in terms he will understand, I do okay lol. But thank you, Joe and your team, you are teaching many generations and make it fun same time!
Ohhhh.... another amazing storyteller! 👏 You and @MrBallen are AMAZING. Keep up the great work. You have yourself a new subscriber!
I too watch both Mr ballen and Joe everyday. Awesome guys.
Mary Celeste is just heart breaking.
"Quick everyone on this life boat!"
"Don't you worry lil' Sophie everything will be just ok."
"Captain! The rope broke!"
"What? Row! Row!"
"We can't reach her, cap!"
"Don't you worry lil' Sophie... everything will be just ok"..
"Oh FUDGE!, except he didn't say fudge."
And then after 30 days adrift on the sea....they had to resort to cannibalism....until there was only one piggie left.
@@MaryAnnRegaladoVasquez ROFL!
The weirdest thing is apparently they were supposed to be 6 miles from the azores. That's 2 hours of rowing mzx.
A rogue wave, a really big violent wave, could have struck & capsize them! May they rest in peace. :( Moments like this I wish I had a time ship so I could go back and say... "Do you need a ride?" ;)
it's fun to listen to stories that make me scared to go outside while I can't go outside
But what if its even scarier inside? Maybe your house is haunted or someone is secretly living in your ceiling. What if drug dealers hid their stash in the wall space and they're coming to get it? Also most accidents happen in the home. I say get out now!
@@morningstar9233 my attic and im dead serious
@@briancarter3704 For real? You had someone secretly living in your attic? I thought that was just an urban myth.
@@morningstar9233 still there
@@briancarter3704 Have you had any contact with this person(s)? What do you intend to do?
Yes- Canam Missing 411- with David Polidus- Thank you for at least giving him a shout out on your channel! He really deserves so much credit.
Just found this channel the other day and love your videos! Not sure if you've made another missing persons episode, but DB Cooper would be an interesting one to discuss. Thanks for the great content!
"We only riot over things that are important... like the supermarket having toilet paper"
"Theories range from batshit crazy to...eh?" I don't know why, but I found this hilarious.
you know something else comming from batshit? :)
I thought Joe’s theory on the Mary Celeste was about the best theory I’ve heard on the subject. It makes far more sense than aliens or ghost pirates.
Yo I love the way you present information! I’m new to the channel but I love the music you use, the tone of your voice and how provide the information! Awesome video, awesome channel! Keep up the good work while I catch up on your videos lol 😂
I love the more historic, scientific, and skeptical looks at some of the theories on these stories. I’ve heard other story tellers that sort of elude to more supernatural explanations rather than the more likely scenarios.
6:08 I admit the man does resemble Michael quite a bit. The shape of the forehead, hairline, shape on nose... I can see why they thought/think it could be him.
yeah for sure, though still hard to make out due to quality and distance though
@@captainzoltan7737 I wonder though how many white men actually went and lived with them?
@@fairladykd6734 yeah good point thats why I'm not denying it. its just naturally i find alot of people (myself included) want to jump to the fantastical explanations, so I make an effort to be more sceptical about stuff like this and not jump the gun.
@@captainzoltan7737 Yeah it prob. is/was Michael - common sense says it was - but I would rather KNOW for sure. If the tribe accepted one white man they may have accepted another.
It was certainly a white guy, in my humble opinion. Who it was we will probably never know for certain, but that dude was definitely white. So yeah, probably our missing man.
This missing persons segment reminds me of my mothers cousin going missing in the 1920's during prohibition. He'd been to their house for dinner, left and a few days later a neighbor stopped by saying no one had seen him Search teams go out but no Clarence. Then 8 days into this disappearance the younger kids were playing by the road and began screaming and running for my grandmothers house. They said a monster was in coming, the men rush out and find cousin Clarence with 3rd degree burns but alive. They get him to the house and days later when he could speak he told them that he'd been to the house of the neighbor that reported him missing and they were cooking some bootleg corn whiskey and the still blew up and caught the barn on fire. He came to and found he was buried under hay in in the compost pile. The guy with the still thought he'd killed him and hid the body, only Clarence was still using it. Other than an ass kicking nothing happened to the neighbor... Probably because he had the still.
thats...actually pretty funny in hindsight, like it probably sucked for those involved but that sounds like the plot of some goofy comedy
Jen Ford I don’t understand your story
Your English skills are terrible.
@@megaflamer 3rd degree burns and burying someone in a compost heap instead of checking whether they're still alive and maybe getting them medical help is funny now?
@@eviljesus84 I did say 'in hindsight' and blowing up the still and burning down the barn when making bootleg whiskey? yea, that is pretty funny.
Bravo Joe. I love how you present information and strange things. Yoy keep your head and don't get carried away. Thanks for all your food work.
You should do an update video on this subject about new evidence
I love when you make this kind of “mysterious content”.
Especially because you don’t find it that mysterious. You have a rational explanation, while still explaining the mysterious parts of the stories. Seriously do more of this. It’s awesome entertainment, which I now might be a bit dark to think, haha
“Maybe he wanted to get away from society” fucking SAME dude
Not true no one what’s to dispere
Off to Indonesia!
I love this.....it's like the exact opposite of what happens over and over again on "ancient aliens". Which I have come to hate due to the fact that my father is so addicted to the show that it has affected our relationship. Thank you for making sense and being of logic.
I like the theory of the parachute mines, primary blast injuries from the shock wave can occur with no external injuries. It would also explain the panicked escape from the tent and hiding in the trees.
Also makes sense that the government would keep the truth hidden.
Man these drums at the beginning are iconic
I love and watch a lot of your work, I appreciate that you approach things intelligently, logical, & skeptical, but with an open mind. I really think you would be intrigued by some of the missing 411 stories, particularly the "found cases". I would very much enjoy to hear your opinion on these cases. When a child disappears, only to be found 3hrs later, on a cliff 3miles away, up a mountain that professionals need climbing gear to reach, that peaked my interest thoroughly. Please give these cases a look, and share your thoughts.
I don’t know how I randomly came upon your videos but I’m HOOKED! Love your attitude, your approach, your topics, and your humor. Thank you and thanks RUclips algorithm!!
Thank you for highlighting Canada's Stolen Sisters!
I grew up in the region... we spent virtually ALL of our free time in the bush. Every town seemed to have that one guy who had his face ripped up by a bear. Odd how nobody cares about the men who are missing, in the bush, while playing amongst the bears. Not to downplay the actual rapes that took place - and we all know that is endemic to the region - but "disappeared in bear country while walking alone, drunk" is not the same as "raped and murdered until proven otherwise". It's dangerous country, we all know that and accept as one of life's little risks. "Some days you eat the bear, some days the bear eats you" was a well-known phrase as I grew up. #StayRational, #AllLivesMatter
James White I mean theres a big difference between “person out in the woods gets attacked by a wild animal” vs “person gets abducted by another person and sexually assaulted and murdered”
Victims of the events aren’t going to try and downplay the other events either, don’t try to hashtag all lives matter shit on stuff like this(or at all, ideally)
@@jameswhite1910 That's actually part of the mentality that has contributed to the highway of tears, you are downplaying the rapes, the violence and the marginalisation of women and particularly indigenous women.
@@cowmath77 I didn't mention my gender or ethnicity, did I? I truly believe that one's gender and ethnicity mean very little. It is what a person does that matters.
@@Xaurii I confused nothing. When some "disappears" it means we don't know what happened to them, right? When the men disappear, we know it's likely "bush" related. So why jump to sexual assault when a girl disappears? Walking the highways, alone, at night, in bear and cougar country is not safe for someone as small as many women are. Even the men are aware to be cautious, but are big enough that at least the cougars will stay away - and generally experienced enough to know how to deal with "most" bears.
Joe: We humans crave closure
The Walking Dead writers:
And yet whenever I complain about indy games like Limbo or Inside or Submachine and how they completely fail to have anything resembling a satisfying conclusion, people yell at me and tell me I'm just supposed to think about it and come up with my own answers. Screw that! This is your story, gimme my goddang closure!
@Joescott i think we need a part 2!
Just found this channel yesterday. Really interesting stuff. The Djatlov Pass incident is especially intriguing, and there's a Finnish-singing band named Kauan who released an album titled Sorni Nai, which is about the incident.
Me: books, cliffhangeres, ok cool. I like where this is going.
Joe: 5 mysterious deaths/
me: breaks neck from such a hard turn
Jodah175 protect ya neck
Make that six mysterious deaths
this right here is classic "youtube blackhole" material, i already know im going to here for hours watching the related videos
Check out Lemminos video on the Russian one
Look up damninteresting.com it's a good site for weird stuff and to pass the time
Lauren G hell yes! i love damn interesting. i rarely see it mentioned and it’s a shame more people don’t read it!
Thanks. Some of my fav stories. Have you ever heard about the Brandon Swanson story? Very good one with some bizarre unanswered twists.
The Dyatlov pass was solved thanks to Disney's Frozen snow simulation. Basically they had set their tent in a place where an avalanche happened but because it had snowed the later days, the steepness was covered. The radiation was caused by Thorium in their lamps and the missing tongue was bc scavenger animals
I’m pretty sure that’s been disproven entirely lol
@@fart63 No I’m pretty sure that they got it right also there may have been a large sheet of ice which caused internal damage to those people.
@@kerrynicholls6683 from my perspective none of the evidence supports the claim of an avalanche. I think lemmino’s theory is the most plausible one I’ve seen
Great episode. U should make this a series
boomer
aint it already a series ?
I agree!
100% agree
@@OldestHouse sooner
"well, its my channel and i thought they were interesting" Assert your dominance! lmao. i laughed so hard. heh.
I love that you bring scientific perspective to cases that are very often given to mystic explanations just because
Dyatlov Pass is one of my favorites.
There's a semi "found footage" movie made about it, locally named Devil's Pass (I think), that I really enjoyed.
That was a cool movie. Too bad a research group recreated the tent location and found a slab avalanche can crush a person with a slight slope and explained the probable sequence of events.
But was it a _Russian_ research group?
@@EdwardViaTomato No, it was Swiss researchers.
My favorite mysterious disappearance is james tedford who was in a trip to bennington vermont on a bus and fell asleep.Then when they got there he was not even on the bus
D.B. Cooper 👌👌
Dan cooper bro
And he didn't rob the plane
Thank you for bringing awareness to too easily-overlooked quiet crises like the Highway of Tears.
Danny's book Dead Mountain is an absolute riveting portrayal of the events that took place during the datlov Expedition and probably the best explanation I've heard portraying the incident. It's extremely factual yet it doesn't for you you literally want to see the next page the entire way through period even speaks with some of the surviving family and I believe the Lone Survivor the one who returned back early due to illness
Just found your Chanel and it’s good! If you really look into the missing 411 though the disappearances are not just people getting lost, they are found in places physically impossible and there are strange correlations between many of the disappearances. I would love to hear a video by you on this topic 👍
A BIG SECOND ON THAT !!! 🤡
I recommend the channel LEMINO for the Dyatlov case
I wonder if the fumes on the ship had everyone 3 sheets to wind when they hit the life boat? Might explain how experienced sailors failed to tie a knot properly.
Knot likely.
CO2.
@@MinkytheMinkY CO2 is heaver than air. Evaporated denatured alcohol would rise up and wreak all sorts of havoc.
It was a siren...
@@abradolfhonkler9287 so it's not the CO2? BUT THÉ EtOH? I've worked in wineries, so we open the rooms storing the barrels 30minutes before we go in to off gas and not die of CO2 poisoning. That's where I'm coming from.
Excellent video, Joe! I love your content, even the morbid ones haha
Great episode. I would love to hear your take on the missing 411 phenomenon!
Loved this.
I am satisfied with your Marie Celeste explanation.
A feckin knot 🙄 seems extremely likely to me knowing this about the evaporation of the alcohol.
I feel the same about the death of Elisa Lam. People insist she was a victim of foul play when it's quite a strong theory that her bipolar episode made her do everything. We know the lid to the tank was open, so that supports the idea that she went in there by herself.
I've listened to this twice and still, it's festinating. Thanks Joe.
Regarding the simplest oversights leading to tragedies, the Challenger comes to mind
While not a mystery, my favorite story about a traveling party where something goes tragically wrong is the story of Robert Falcon Scott's race to the south pole. It is heartbreaking to me, especially the letter he wrote to his wife about her remarrying.
Yeah, lead poisoning.
One day during all this mess I just want Joe to spin around one time wearing a facemask. It would make lockdown bearable just to see that.
Paul Stockton that would be so much fun to see! I hope Joe sees your comment so this becomes a reality!
No, no it wouldn't tired of hearing about it and seeing it every where you go!!
Vikki Gardner I bet you’re so much fun at parties.
that whole thing about humans seeking answers to unknown things is kinda appropriate for "ANSWERS with joe" lol
I always find it interesting the lengths we go to explain a mystery...
joe you are mindblowingly consistent and amazing!!
The Dyatlov Pass Incident has been my favourite unsolved mystery for years! Such a bizarre case! Thank you for the video, Joe :)
If that is the case than I can recommend this video ruclips.net/video/Y8RigxxiilI/видео.html
If you don't know this already
I recommend bedtime stories, they have three videos on this case, and the last one offers a quite convincing explanation based on a similar accident in Sweden where there was a survivor.
@@ozAqVvhhNue booyah
@@ozAqVvhhNue Had a reply typed out to comment this already. This guys channel is filled with interesting videos. Roanoke, the Universal S, Cicada, ect.
As for the pass, his explanation just comes across so perfect. Uses the small bits of evidence left around, uses no leaps of logic, arriving at an explanation that perfectly explains every aspect of the incident.
I think the Russian group disappearances was the most intriguing
In Dyatlov case one came forward in the recent years on the verge of his death claiming that he was in the know of what happened but kept silent for all these years for the fear of revenge. Because it was actually Mansi who slaughtered those students. One piece of puzzle is the guy on the team who was claimed to have fallen sick and returned, before the team was killed. The old man said that on the trip the team stumbled upon a Mansi cave and at least one of them or two went in to investigate and plundered their treasures and religious artifacts, unknown to the rest of the team. Then one person claimed to be a sick and took off with the treasure. Mansi are peaceful people and this image is promoted by the Soviet propaganda, but it is their land and they can be brutal if you desecrate their religious sites. Police did have a hunch and it is the simplest explanation that there was foul play, but pursuing this lead was a hopeless dead end because Mansi would not tell on their own ever. And it would be a disaster in indigenous peoples policy trying to push with this line. Basically people cut their way out of the tent to get a Fighting chance and some tried to make a run for their life when they were attacked by Mansi and tortured to extract information about the treasure - missing tongue, fractured skull? the internal damage without external damage is consistent with a kick with a boot in the stomach. No clothes could be also be explained as a way of torture. they didn't have information about the treasure so they were just left for dead in the cold and those who put up resistance were killed.
Lemmino made a great video about the dyatlov disappearance.
I think ancient aliens covers this disappearance and more details about it better. In my opinion I think it’s worth a watch.
Isn't already debunked? A tent fire from a makeshift stove forced them out of the tent. They weren't well dressed because they were inside the tent, also some of them were drunk. They seek shelter in the woods while those who are better dressed go out further to find materials. They later died from hypothermia and some were buried by avalanche, this may explain the fracture.
Edit: also the "radioactive" clothing belonged to the 3 men working in a nuclear plant.
It definitely is the one closest to an X-Files episode. Not a single solid piece of evidence, and every theory has something going for it. So I'm going with aliens.
I had read sometime ago about Dyatlov Pass, some belief that a fire or smoke had filled the tent causing them to cut their way out. Evidently they had a makeshift stove for cooking which come explain how things went from bad to worse after cutting their way out of a smoke filled tent.
Honestly, I feel like most disappearances have glaringly obvious answers but we'll never 100% KNOW what happened. Mistakes happen, people have terrible ideas, sometimes poor detective work is done, there isn't enough evidence, etc. Because we can't be sure what happened, our minds come up with the most ridiculous ideas.
Hey, Joe, your ad at the end makes me cry in grief and frustration for our society: the fact that logic and reasoning are skills that adults need to learn - AFTER leaving school.
Great point. One I try to make myself pretty regularly. Probably too bloody often.
But it is indeed a damn shame, especially as many never bother to do, or remain utterly unaware of it.
However while we live in societies where religion are still pushed, have and can exert influence, where it is in the interests of the powers that be that there remains a large pool of credulous, gullible, not overly logical or deep thinking individuals to serve this society, I kind of doubt we are going to get Logic 101 and critical thinking classes in schools anytime soon.
Much easier to manipulate if people continue to think in a more emotional type of mode.
Or maybe I'm just being overly sceptical or even a shade cynical.
The RUclips channel "Bedtime Stories" has a video series devoted to the Dyatlov Incident. I highly recommend it. The conclusions it comes up with are both more realistic and more terrifying.
There's also a great video by the great Lemmino.
I love Bedtime Stories, him, Joe, and Mrballen are my faves😊
Honestly tho, they’re the exact same conclusions on every video because only so many different things could’ve happened.
Thanks so much for your comment about "Bedtime Stories" channel and their Dyatlov Pass series. I've watched quite a few videos about this thought provoking event and it will be great to see and hear realistic and terrifying conclusions when a lot of the time I get neither. Have a great day 🇦🇺🤠👏
@@sarahoshea9603 I love Mr Ballen to bits! xo 🇦🇺👏💖
That last story adds a whole new dimension to “missed the boat”
Compelling stories indeed, thank you for sharing this with us Joe.
I found your opinions on the highway of tears segment particularly interesting.
I agree that the number of victims to be significantly higher than the current estimated numbers, and it begs the question-what can be do to stop this from happening?
I hope that the law enforcement and social services can better the situation there, and support the communities because they're vulnerable to their circumstances and the predators that target them.
Thanks again for sharing. ✌️
Better call it "No Answers With Joe" 😂😂😂
23:11 "That's how life works..." My mind immediately went to the frozen O-Ring on Challenger's SRB joint. A small little detail that caused a horrific event.
criminal negligence imo
mine did to the merlin that blew up because one of the sensors was clogged up with cleaning fluid.
Joe, I like the way you think. I like your sense of humor as well. Keep up the good work!
One of the most mysterious missing person cases for me is Brandon Swanson. I just can't wrap my head around it
I heard the Dyatlov Pass recently was "solved"
I mean, it's a pretty damn solid theory.
@@lizc6393
From Wiki:
Russia opened a new investigation into the incident in 2019, and its conclusions were presented in July 2020: that an avalanche had led to the deaths. Survivors of the avalanche had been forced to suddenly leave their camp in low visibility conditions with inadequate clothing, and had died of hypothermia. Andrey Kuryakov, deputy head of the regional prosecutor's office, said: "It was a heroic struggle. There was no panic. But they had no chance to save themselves under the circumstances."[1] A study led by scientists from EPFL and ETH Zurich, published in 2021, suggested that a type of avalanche known as a slab avalanche could explain some of the injuries.[2][3]
Damn, that's tragic!
He did pretty bad covering this, especially with the radioactivity.
It was to explained my satisfaction. Sometimes the landscape is not what you think it is under the snow.
It has :)
"Woo-woo territory" i am absolutely using this in conversation.
Sound the woo-woo alarm!
*woo-woo woo-woo*
Wow, Joe. That intro was a roller coaster. I loved it
The story of Mary Celeste is heartbreaking. Just imagine their last three days in the ocean. You cannot last long without water, so they probably drank some of the ocean water. And died in pain and horror. What if they still were alive at the time Mary Celeste was discovered? I wish people searched the path of the ship and have found them. Dead or alive, but did not ignore the missing boat.