Every other cubing channel I follow only had praises for this cube. You're the only one who's really honest out there. You have my full respect, man :)
True, most of the cubing channels out there doesn’t really talk about how the cube performs at all, but J Perm does, which I really like because I can know which cubes I should decide to buy quickly. (Not saying that other channels suck ok?)
Helpful review. I bought the Gan 4x4 and found it is possible, with a little bit of wiggling, to get the tensioning tool in between the center caps without removing them. Overcomes a major irritating issue you rightly pointed out.
When I saw that you posted a review on the Gan 460, I was really hoping you wouldn't say it's really good, because I just ordered the Mini Wuque M. Such a relief when you basically said it sucks within 15 seconds! :) Edit: I just reached the part where you said you prefer the normal Wuque over the Mini one... :/
I'll be getting the mini wuque soon and setting it up myself so we'll see! it's good, just not as good as the wuque as far as I can tell for now. it's better than the gan for sure though
Great video and I love how you give an honest review! I own a GAN 460 M myself, and I can tell you so far, it wasn't worth the $60. The cube can be good at times, and its outer layers are extremely fast like you said, but the corner cutting isn't that great. The cube does feel kind of flimsy and I get a lot of catches as well as major pops if I try to go fast. Slice moves aren't easily executed either. Unless you want to flex about having a GAN 4x4, then I would say to go for another 4x4 cube than this one.
This is just such a shame; it looks SO good especially compared to all other 4x4s, and I just wish it could be like their 3x3s (even though they're not my favorite)
J Perm- do you think it’s likely that Gan will release a V2 of the 460 to address the issues with this puzzle? I assumed they would put out a sub par version 1 like they did with the 249. Smart business move to be honest, sell the ok cube, then release the same cube with slight design improvements to sell the same product a second time. If they do, I will wait for the 460 V2
Hey j Perm, i solve the 3x3 with 2 look oll and pll and i want to get rid of the 2 look pll but i dont want to learn all algs at once. What pll algs do you recommend learning first?
Learn algs related to t perk like the N,J,F perms, a perm and e perm is east and you can learn a new v perm which is easy for you and then learn g perm cycles and r perm
I use Uw2 Rw2 U2 r2 U2 Rw2 Uw2 as my PLL parity. Worked ok on the 460, but I really hate the 1x2 corner cutting of the cube, which affects OLL parity and an adjacent PLL parity alg. I ranked the 460 as 4th best, after WuQue (3rd), New batch mini AoSu (2nd), and AoSu GTS (1st) and definitely excited to try out the mini WuQue, especially since you said it's different and slightly flimsier, I find the original too stiff and blocky, would probably take over my #2 or #3 spot.
@@willhblob1171 No R2 is a single layer move and an RW2 is a double layer turn, w means wide and wide meanmeans double layer, a lower case means the middle R or the middle L eg. l, r
@@wencepineda7350 I though 2R2 meant to turn the middle right layer once, for example, 2R2 U2 2R2 2U2 2R2 u2 if these were the 4 layers, | | | | 2R2 means to turn only this one: ^ so on 4x4, would r2 (lowercase r) and RW2 mean the same thing?
On my Kylin V2 M, when I loosen it to get better corner cutting I overshoot a lot but when I tighten it so I don't overshoot it gets worse at corner cutting. What must I go for?
I got a mf3rs 2 about 3 months ago it’s very good, But I dropped it one time and it had no problems but it was dropped again a few times by my friends and like the white centre piece popped out and all the prices scattered all over the place . Now the white centre keeps coming out whenever I turn the cube fast . Like the screw which is turned into the groove just comes out l,nothing’s broken the screw and groove is loose and if we pull the centre it just comes right out. Anybody know how to fix this
His voice through the whole video was like “this cube is a good cube!!! But it’s not good. I’m not saying it’s not good, it’s just that it’s not good. Heh heh.”
to test to see if it was good or not, if it wasn't good and he put the caps in the right place it would've been a lot of time wasted just finding the caps and putting it in the right place.
Yes wuque is the best on the market but no doubt that this cube is still great and if you want the wuque I think you can get the full size version now now think you can only get the mini
I actually really liked this cube back then when wuque was only good, the magnets are strong while it’s very fast, u just need to turn a bit more accurate, yes the wuque is smoother and had better cornercuts but I think that matters less than the speed that gan 460 has, I just spend extra effort on turning accurately and it works great, I average faster on this cube than wuque back then because I get to practice more, wuque I can only practice for like 7 solves before my fingers are tired, also I like the design and the size and the longer edges, really cool
i Have a Gan 460 M and its pretty good but i got it on ebay so i dont think i can change the magnets which is annoying they are really weak and need to be stronger
Hey J Perm, you prolly won't read this but, whatever. Do you think that it is just your cube that is bad for it's price or have you tried other ones and they are also bad, or the center cap thing is just so bad that you would not recommend it over the WuQue to any one? If you see this please respond thanks:)
Thank you so much for replying J perm:) So would you consider it 2nd place in the realm of 4x4s? or is it more like 10th place? again thanks for your help:)! PS. my favorite pll is j perm too;)
happy to hear that voice after many weeks.
Add cracks after the word voice.
@E escagh.h
You could have watched his other vids to hear his voice but not hating....
@@mynameistperm9031 remember, this was 3 years ago.
1:36 Imagine doing 4BLD on it...
And OH while BLD
the 4BLD world record holder (Kaijun Lin) uses it lol
but he is sponsored by gan
and you don't really get that kind of lockup because it's more common in 4bld to do Rw R' for slice moves than just flicking
There one thing I have to say...
UUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH
Me: *does corner cut*
460M: hippity hoppity i'm going to poppity
😂
LOL
@@boeing7877 you just have to break it in. 4x4 is my 2nd event and after 100-150 solves, it speeds up alot
😂 lmao,
@-N Z CUBING- what why
If GAN is attempting to go make all WCA puzzles, I'm really excited for the GAN Clock.
Im excited for the gan skewb (they did it now) and square-1, even though i would probably not touch a skewb or square-1 in a long time
or gan 5x5
I'm excited for The 5x5 or 6x6
Imagine a gan 7x7 😅
hundred percent sure
by the TIME gan reached clock....it would cost more than a rolex
The stupid hexagonal screws is just more evidence that Gan is the Apple of the speedcubing world.
lol
Ikr
Michael Lyga they’re the apple of cubing, but they’re good
@YO k like they aren't rly higher quality compared to Samsung, while gan is very high quality
@@SupernovaC OK, you're not just wrong, you're stupid. Apple has WAY higher quality than Samsung.
"I'm out of good things to say..." Maybe I should leave now haha!
@@cubeforspeed9077 answer so fast😂😂😂
Every other cubing channel I follow only had praises for this cube. You're the only one who's really honest out there. You have my full respect, man :)
True, most of the cubing channels out there doesn’t really talk about how the cube performs at all, but J Perm does, which I really like because I can know which cubes I should decide to buy quickly. (Not saying that other channels suck ok?)
J perm: Gan 460 M
BrodyTheCuber: Valk 4
This cube is not bad. It's not good.
Advait Pai simple
I have it and honestly it’s bad
For it's price
What about the SCS Cosmic version
Helpful review. I bought the Gan 4x4 and found it is possible, with a little bit of wiggling, to get the tensioning tool in between the center caps without removing them. Overcomes a major irritating issue you rightly pointed out.
Managed to do it too but sometimes it's hard to fit it in.
The guy literally solved a 4x4 in the smae same time that my 3x3 average is. RESPECT
I got this 4 my birthday and it was a huge improvement from my other 4x4 which was equivalent to a loose Rubik’s brand 3x3.
The COLL on the 2nd last solve really helped as wide moves in 4x4 are slow
Nice vid! It was also great to see you at Nationals(i was the guy who showed you your own vids). Keep up the good work!
This is not a JOKE!
I was playing with it, then my sweat accidentally removes the logo
😂
When I saw that you posted a review on the Gan 460, I was really hoping you wouldn't say it's really good, because I just ordered the Mini Wuque M. Such a relief when you basically said it sucks within 15 seconds! :)
Edit: I just reached the part where you said you prefer the normal Wuque over the Mini one... :/
I'll be getting the mini wuque soon and setting it up myself so we'll see! it's good, just not as good as the wuque as far as I can tell for now. it's better than the gan for sure though
OH YEAH! NEW VID! NOTIF SQUAD!
THIS CUBE LOCKED UP, POPPED AND THE MECHANISMS ARE SO COMPLEX
0:08 I’m out of good things to say
Me: G O O D B Y E
Great video and I love how you give an honest review! I own a GAN 460 M myself, and I can tell you so far, it wasn't worth the $60. The cube can be good at times, and its outer layers are extremely fast like you said, but the corner cutting isn't that great. The cube does feel kind of flimsy and I get a lot of catches as well as major pops if I try to go fast. Slice moves aren't easily executed either. Unless you want to flex about having a GAN 4x4, then I would say to go for another 4x4 cube than this one.
1:41 Me when i do a solve on the GAN 356 Air.
1:49 ME when i do a solve on the GAN 356X.
Thats the opposite for me
"the hexagonal screw device is so fat." hexagonal screw device:"y u bully me>."
Hi jperm! After quite a long time finally you are back. Btw how did you perform at the recent competitions?
I did very well as a whole! my 3x3 to 5x5 averages are all sub my global averages at home so that's nice.
the reason i say "as a whole" is because i got all my pbs at snoco and failed everything at nats haha
Happy to hear that voice after several weeks
Review the Shengshou Mr. M. It's $9.95 and magnetic. LUBE IT
He doesn’t usually setup budget cubes because usually beginners but the budget ones and can’t set cubes up that well.
His 4X4 solves are faster than my 3x3 solves
That's weird 😂😂
@XG CUBER who tf cares
whats your average 40 seconds
@@Ricomcdade23 I do
Kiwi lol
This cube is truly perfect i reccomend it to every single 4x4 solver i promise you, you wont regret it if you buy it
D..... Did you watch the video????
YAY ANOTHER VIDEO!!!! after a few weeks love to see you back making videos. What are u reviewing next?😄😊
2:08 *The Moyu AoSu GTS2M has joined the chat*
This should have been:
The Moyu AoSu GTSM has joined the chat
@R.P. Cubers There is a GTS2M now. Also, it is J Perm's new main over the Wuque.
I have a GAN 4x4, and it is the only 4x4 I have. I honestly thought that’s how all 4x4s feel!
This is just such a shame; it looks SO good especially compared to all other 4x4s, and I just wish it could be like their 3x3s (even though they're not my favorite)
Dylan, what do you think of the trend of cubes getting smaller? And what would you consider too small?
For me for a 4x4, anything smaller than normal 3x3 size 56mm is too small
Please make a comparison between the gts3m and the gan 354m
J Perm- do you think it’s likely that Gan will release a V2 of the 460 to address the issues with this puzzle? I assumed they would put out a sub par version 1 like they did with the 249. Smart business move to be honest, sell the ok cube, then release the same cube with slight design improvements to sell the same product a second time. If they do, I will wait for the 460 V2
I'm not sure, I hope they do for the chance it'll be good, but I also hope they're not doing this intentionally
I love the gan 460. The speed is amazing. I average 45 but a few solves in I got a 30
Jesus I average 56 and my PB is 45 lmao
i average 40, my best is 33
Nothing like your videos, best !!!
Hey j Perm, i solve the 3x3 with 2 look oll and pll and i want to get rid of the 2 look pll but i dont want to learn all algs at once. What pll algs do you recommend learning first?
@@brainshattersreversed6519 true, i do that too
Learn algs related to t perk like the N,J,F perms, a perm and e perm is east and you can learn a new v perm which is easy for you and then learn g perm cycles and r perm
0:50 because it is now a 4x4 void cube
shoot. I left at 0.06 and ordered one because I have never seen jperm so positive in a review before
I orders a gan 3x3 from wish and the logo rubbed off in a couple weeks. It looks pretty real but idk if it is.
Could you do a hardware swap? Maybe then you could find a way to change it to screws then maybe the inners could turn better too. Just an idea I had.
What lube did you use to lube a 4x4?
I use Uw2 Rw2 U2 r2 U2 Rw2 Uw2 as my PLL parity. Worked ok on the 460, but I really hate the 1x2 corner cutting of the cube, which affects OLL parity and an adjacent PLL parity alg. I ranked the 460 as 4th best, after WuQue (3rd), New batch mini AoSu (2nd), and AoSu GTS (1st) and definitely excited to try out the mini WuQue, especially since you said it's different and slightly flimsier, I find the original too stiff and blocky, would probably take over my #2 or #3 spot.
Same!
Strongforce 99999 is Rw2 the same as r2?
@@willhblob1171 No R2 is a single layer move and an RW2 is a double layer turn, w means wide and wide meanmeans double layer, a lower case means the middle R or the middle L eg. l, r
@@wencepineda7350 I though 2R2 meant to turn the middle right layer once, for example, 2R2 U2 2R2 2U2 2R2 u2
if these were the 4 layers,
| | | |
2R2 means to turn only this one:
^
so on 4x4, would r2 (lowercase r) and RW2 mean the same thing?
Because on 3x3, a lot of algs using wide turns use a lowercase letter, for example the algorithm r U R' U' r' F R F'
Hey J perm! notification squad! I absolutely love your channel, you got me sub 20, and i started in February...
good job! that's some quick improvement
Thanks 😃
oooh same story!
according to me Jprem is the cutest cuber🙂😊😅
Hey J Perm Im sub 30 ish on 3x3 right now andI wanted to ask for tips and what I should learn(I know full PLL)
Me too
Someone had this at my first comp, the inner layers were a joke 😭
I have trouble doing PLL parity on the Valk 4
If you know much about squan, you should do a CSP tutorial because your tutorials are the best and I only understand your tutorials.
I don't own nor can I solve a squan :(
rip
You should get one, squan is pretty fun. (for me anyway)
Im glad that i decided to purchase the SuperNova Wuque :)
Hey J perm is the Aosu gts good or is there a better 4x4.
I would like to know what are your mains for all your different puzzles and why. Plz
I definitely agree with J Perm with what he said about the Gans 460
Im very happy with the 4x4 i bought, its the best and the fastest 4x4 in the world, its a rubiks brand
"even price" oooo...i can feel the burn in my abs
On my Kylin V2 M, when I loosen it to get better corner cutting I overshoot a lot but when I tighten it so I don't overshoot it gets worse at corner cutting.
What must I go for?
I use it as my main and am sub 20 and I would recommend you to keep it loose
YAY, YOU’RE BACK!!!
Hello, just wanted to know what is your opinion on color neutrality with yau4 method.
Hey j perm is it is necessary that we should have a spedcube to become sub 20?
I got a mf3rs 2 about 3 months ago it’s very good, But I dropped it one time and it had no problems but it was dropped again a few times by my friends and like the white centre piece popped out and all the prices scattered all over the place . Now the white centre keeps coming out whenever I turn the cube fast . Like the screw which is turned into the groove just comes out l,nothing’s broken the screw and groove is loose and if we pull the centre it just comes right out. Anybody know how to fix this
NotAfthab Aftab I think u have a striped core, try buying a new core
yeah that doesn't sound fixable besides buying new stuff, it just sounds broken
Super382946 well going to try some 'home remedies' to fix it ,will let you know whether I succeeded or not
@@scrumptiousbisquitz1140 you succseded?
@@omarsorin4842 naahh, I ended up buying a new core for the cube after trying some stuff
Why do the center 2x2 pieces never move when you're working it? Is it a psuedo-4x4???
GAN 460(4*4 ) CUBE IS AROUND 4500 RUPEES
🤯🤯🤯
His voice through the whole video was like “this cube is a good cube!!! But it’s not good. I’m not saying it’s not good, it’s just that it’s not good. Heh heh.”
could you do a review on the aosu wrm 4x4?
many say that it is slightly better than the WuQue M
This looks and sounds like the OG Yuxin 4x4 with the mat stickers
I hope they release a GAN 5x5.
Can you make a comparios between the aosu GTSM, Gans 4x4 and wuque?
did you get the gan 460 with the pro setup included
Ladies and gentlemen, GAN MADE A BAD CUBE
I’m going to buy my first ever 4 by 4 cube and I don’t know if I should get the gan 460m. Should I get the gan 460m?
Why did you put the wrong center caps on
to test to see if it was good or not, if it wasn't good and he put the caps in the right place it would've been a lot of time wasted just finding the caps and putting it in the right place.
Italian Mapping oh
do you do any stretches before cubing ? cubing can lead to carpel tunnel
I just try not to go for too long, keep cubes lubed, and stretch fingers and wrist and forearm afterwards
I LOVE THE BEGGINING! LOL NIce review tho, you always make amazing ones!
guys where can i buy 4x4 spare parts?
(i need nuts and springs and i need this cube part)
hi jperm do you use half centers
What was ur settings, jperm?
Yes wuque is the best on the market but no doubt that this cube is still great and if you want the wuque I think you can get the full size version now now think you can only get the mini
Dang. I really like GAN cubes but they are so expensive
I actually really liked this cube back then when wuque was only good, the magnets are strong while it’s very fast, u just need to turn a bit more accurate, yes the wuque is smoother and had better cornercuts but I think that matters less than the speed that gan 460 has, I just spend extra effort on turning accurately and it works great, I average faster on this cube than wuque back then because I get to practice more, wuque I can only practice for like 7 solves before my fingers are tired, also I like the design and the size and the longer edges, really cool
Is the stickerd version any better
As always gan is known for it's high performance and price but this is to expensive.
Honest review
Me: doing cornercut
Gan 460: hippity hoppity I am going to poppity
He can solve a 4x4 quicker than I can solve a 3x3
So what price is the Gan 460 good at? There was a sale for $36, is that good?
nah, I think its worse than the wuque and gts2/GTS but better than everything below that.
*iS tHaT a 10x10?*
How does it compare to the AoSu GTS in terms of 3x3 stage?
probably better, I have lockup problems overall with the gts
I really like how even heavy lubes break in easily in the GTS
Am I alone in using the Aosu GTS M as a main? For some reason, I like it better than the Wuque M.
I ordered that, it's coming to my house in a couple of weeks.
I use my Aosu gts m as my main mostly because well it is my only 4x4 and well it was really good for me
J perm I have heard about that the stickers vision GAN 460 's magnets strength is weaker
Can anyone tell me what 3x3 i should buy?i'm currently sub17 and my turning style is quite aggressive.
how do you feel about the aosu gts m
worse than the wuque but not bad
WuQue M does not exist I was looking for it but couldn't find it?
get the mgc or aosu wrm
Amazing review
i Have a Gan 460 M and its pretty good but i got it on ebay so i dont think i can change the magnets which is annoying they are really weak and need to be stronger
hey jperm you should try buying from cubezz cause on scs the gts3 is 35 dollars while on cubezz its only 28.99
Is it your main now jperm
anyone know how to fix the box
Great.
60,000 Subscribers special video ???
Hey J Perm, you prolly won't read this but, whatever. Do you think that it is just your cube that is bad for it's price or have you tried other ones and they are also bad, or the center cap thing is just so bad that you would not recommend it over the WuQue to any one? If you see this please respond thanks:)
I just think it's bad compared to the wuque, which is far cheaper.
Thank you so much for replying J perm:) So would you consider it 2nd place in the realm of 4x4s? or is it more like 10th place? again thanks for your help:)!
PS. my favorite pll is j perm too;)
what is your main?
What's your match on 4×4?? Is Yau match??
I use Yau