You people are heartless. The people working on these games put in a lot of effort. The production isn't easy and even if you don't love it there is no reason for base hateful remarks
Whether this is better or worse than Dark and Darker I don't care. This will definitely keep the market competitive and push both developers to create interesting updates
I mean IF this game even survives. Most people dont care about this game. Steam follows doesnt really show who actually plays this. One thing is clear tho and its that this will not replace DaD. If it survives, its going to be a miracle for the devs. This game was made in the hope that DaD would have gone under by the lawsuit and this would have replaced it but ironmace won the case and got their game back to steam. Now we can just wonder why the game kinda even exists. For the competition? Greed is good tried that but it died within a month.
yeah it looks like DaD but without a lot of character and time spent on making the enemies patterns feel really good to learn and weave between. it's got some great animations though you've gotta give them that.
@@Finnishmanni Also I have permanent crash on startup on DAD and I am not alone. I have tried everything I could find online. If I can't play DAD, it would be nice to have something to play.
@@BallisticMystic Could be a windows, driver or in the most unfortunate case an hardware issue. Probably driver issue or maybe your PC isn't capable to run the game?
Still dreaming about another Elden Ring God video based on a DLC play through Jack! That is one of your best vids of all time and it’s great seeing you visiting this genre again.
@@Odyssey636 Well let's see. - Better graphics. - Very slow gameplay instead of super slow gameplay. - Everyone can block, not just longsword and shield so it's not automatic spam or run. - There are actual maps instead of just collections of squares with a theme. If this was made by students, then DaD was made by students too.
@j.d.4697 wtf do you mean better graphics game looks like ass. it literally looks like Valorant. looks like an assfart made by riotgames. all the graphics looks like streched single colour sheets. dad has tons of details on every corner. this game litterally made for bad pc's. also you can literally block with the tip of the longsword and counterattack from it this alone will show how beautifull and detailed dad is. if dad is dota this game feels like league of legends.
@@j.d.4697 - Worse graphics honestly - Bland gameplay that even the people who used to play it quit - Everyone can "block", which doesn't take any skill since it doesn't have hitboxes and doesn't even negate damage, just reduces it like some sort of Elder Scrolls or MMO game (why did you even think was a plus?) - The fuck you mean? Is it just because it's open? Also more maps in Dark and Darker and the Ruins of Forgotten Castle (surface level) is coming back (it already existed) lol
@@Dasistriteplayed it and i would prefer to play it for free than paying 30$ + for battle passes in DND. This game is good but it has balance problems and creators don't give a f
I want everyone to remember that competition is good for games.. Can we all look at tarkov as a prime example for what happens when an extraction game goes unchallenged.. Also dark and darker still has a case going on against it, it could still go under.
Nope. The case was ongoing for quiet a long time and was the reason it wasn't released on Steam or Epic. Case was closed months ago, that's why it's on steam and Epic.
Also... competition is good. But if dark and darker is like a 50k car, this is a 2k car. Thats not really competition. We need someone to release a 100k car so that dnd will step it up some. This budget student project isnt it😂😂
It’s so nice to see Jack learning a new game. Super refreshing. Jack not knowing things, getting surprised and/or scared and maybe damaged is hilarious
just spent all my free time playing the play test for the last 5 days. cant wait for early access and hope the devs make the game really rise to its full potential
It's not just similar, it literally used some of the same assets like the interaction animation for example. But the irony is that the DaD devs had a lawsuit about stolen assets which they won by proving they used all these store assets legally available for commercial use, and apparently now the DB devs are using those too. 😅
Thank you so much for introducing me to this game, I tried it the last day of the playtest and love it. I'd really love to see you play more of it after release and help bolster its player count.
its looks exactly the same gameplay wise the only true difference is the art style which gives it a lighter feel , like a fantasy game meanwhile dark and darker is a dark fantasy but i honestly like that there is two different games hopefully it makes the devs to try their hardest on making the better game which could only be good for us lol
@@EmpireK2 You sure its the same gameplay? Because DaD's melee combat had more weight and it looked sluggish while Dungeonborne is more arcadey. That and DB has some quality of life stuff that I wish Far and Darker had.
@@_io.n More polished but far more imbalanced. And practically everything else this game does better, the experience and talent the devs have here is showing very clearly.
The first dnd style game that runs well and makes it onto console will be a hit. Would make a lovely change up for my group of mates, bored of rebirth island but lacking anything coop. Remnant 2 was great, but didnt have that pvp aspect.
I have been playing this game for a day now and love it, but I have never even seen that reaper boss. Your encounter with him reminds me of the early days of Everquest 1, and that underground part reminds me of the Queynos sewers in EQ1, which I adore. 🥰
Literally everything about this looks worse what are u tokin 😂 bro combats worse, animations worse, difficulty is piss easy, graphics are terrible, itemization is worse, and so is class fantasy🤭
To anyone on the fence, just play it. It's Leagues better than Dark and Darker. That's not to say Dark and Darker is a bad game, but this game just opens a lot more possibility. I could go on WAY longer about this, but just... do it. You won't regret it. To anyone saying it's a copy, just play it yourself, and you'll see how much more developed it is. Dark and Darker paved the way for a genre like PUBG did. Other's will take the torch further in honor of it. This game fucking slaps.
As someone who.plays Dark and Darker the combat aspect in Dungeonborne was way more fun. I was surprise how fun this game was.... not im lookjng forward to the other dungeon crawler. Dungeonstalker hopefully its also good.
@@amarumurga846 not to my knowledge but it might have become free to play last time I checked there was a paywall but I'm completely willing to accept that I'm wrong
0:10ish... * Looks at first 10 secs of the Vid and its style... * Wow, someone actually dared to try out mashing Diablo and Skyrim together...? O_0 12:15ish... Wow these are some tough ass enemies... 13:10ish... Umm... Wut...? Ya think ya can handle a Boss after getting your asses handed to ya by a Werewolf who was not a Boss...? O_0 14:25ish... Axes are my fav Melee Weapon, especially 2-Handed Great Axes. This Axe the Boss has is GORGEOUS... 😍 14:40ish... ... Of course that Boss didn't drop the Axe as Lewt... heartbreaking... 💔 15:30ish... Dungeons and Dragons? Oh, that is a point... maybe this game is more like 1/3 Diablo 1/3 Skyrim 1/3 D&D. 15:45ish... Those Flying Biting Books keep reminding me of the Monster Book of Monsters from the Harry Potter Universe. XD 16:15ish... That... is a rad Mimic design... Also lookin at it makes one wonder if one would hate being bit, or licked, by it more... :P 16:45ish... Starting to wonder if Headshotting is not a thing in this game...? 18:20ish... Boss totally Baited... cool Game Design! :D (Of course that's easy for me to say while i'm in the Spectator Stands in that Fight. :P ) 20:20ish... Wait, just noticed. What happened to SliceyMcGee...? 😕
Yes it bears a ton of similarities to Dark and Darker but the play style is much different. I feel like this is actually MORE accessible than DaD and more forgiving. Considering this is just about to enter Early Access and if I compare it to where DaD was at the same point this is actually farther along and better feeling than that one. But, in all fairness, I'd simply say try them both and pick what you like. It's Dungeonborne for me (or, if you're all about anime, pick Dungeon Stalkers)
it’s like if a company who tries not to curse in their content (like disney) took dark & darker & made their own version. d&d is more gritty. once d&d comes to console and is more casual it’ll blow up.
Just so you know, my wife has called you “potato man” since your Starfield video with all the potatoes. It was one of the first videos she saw of yours.
Playing this and dark and darker, i prefer dungeonborne. The two will be compared to each other tirelessly, but they are actually very different from each other.
This game took dark and darker and made it CoD like. It does everything that DAD does, but much worse. Only "good" thing this game has is the 3v3 arena. This is probably going to be another greed is good case
29:06 Yeah, the cyclops in Dark Messiah. Dark Messiah is such a cool game! Do you really have to do physical damage on this cyclops when he's down? Magic is what knocked him down in the first place. Doesn't seem logical or fair to magic users.
Wow this game looks great. Can't wait for Jack to never play it again
Dark and darker rip off
i mean, he only gets money once for playing it, so why he should keep playing it :D
@@sharoxxx6660 This, yes. I'm so sick of people not understanding that this is Jacks job, his source of income.
If he gets enough feedback Jack does replay a few games from time to time, hopefully more ppl comment and say they enjoy this game
You people are heartless. The people working on these games put in a lot of effort. The production isn't easy and even if you don't love it there is no reason for base hateful remarks
Whether this is better or worse than Dark and Darker I don't care. This will definitely keep the market competitive and push both developers to create interesting updates
I mean IF this game even survives. Most people dont care about this game. Steam follows doesnt really show who actually plays this. One thing is clear tho and its that this will not replace DaD. If it survives, its going to be a miracle for the devs. This game was made in the hope that DaD would have gone under by the lawsuit and this would have replaced it but ironmace won the case and got their game back to steam. Now we can just wonder why the game kinda even exists. For the competition? Greed is good tried that but it died within a month.
yeah it looks like DaD but without a lot of character and time spent on making the enemies patterns feel really good to learn and weave between. it's got some great animations though you've gotta give them that.
@@Finnishmanni Also I have permanent crash on startup on DAD and I am not alone. I have tried everything I could find online. If I can't play DAD, it would be nice to have something to play.
@@BallisticMystic Could be a windows, driver or in the most unfortunate case an hardware issue.
Probably driver issue or maybe your PC isn't capable to run the game?
@@BallisticMystic If it should then GGs :D
Light and lighter?
Brilliant
Bright and Duller
Dim and dimmer
Definitely a straight copy of Dark and Darker, sadly.
Better and better
Still dreaming about another Elden Ring God video based on a DLC play through Jack! That is one of your best vids of all time and it’s great seeing you visiting this genre again.
This game is a wet dream of every Tabletop RPG nerd! Love it Jack, please play it more for us! 🛡️⚔️
Its mobile studen project dark and darker😂
@@Odyssey636
Well let's see.
- Better graphics.
- Very slow gameplay instead of super slow gameplay.
- Everyone can block, not just longsword and shield so it's not automatic spam or run.
- There are actual maps instead of just collections of squares with a theme.
If this was made by students, then DaD was made by students too.
@j.d.4697 wtf do you mean better graphics game looks like ass. it literally looks like Valorant.
looks like an assfart made by riotgames.
all the graphics looks like streched single colour sheets. dad has tons of details on every corner. this game litterally made for bad pc's.
also you can literally block with the tip of the longsword and counterattack from it this alone will show how beautifull and detailed dad is. if dad is dota this game feels like league of legends.
@@j.d.4697
- Worse graphics honestly
- Bland gameplay that even the people who used to play it quit
- Everyone can "block", which doesn't take any skill since it doesn't have hitboxes and doesn't even negate damage, just reduces it like some sort of Elder Scrolls or MMO game (why did you even think was a plus?)
- The fuck you mean? Is it just because it's open? Also more maps in Dark and Darker and the Ruins of Forgotten Castle (surface level) is coming back (it already existed) lol
@@qqq3230 It's like Minecraft vs Survivalcraft
It’s pretty cool to see what dark and darker could do if it’s running on the same engine.
And actually made by somewhat competent people.
@@MrNotBot yeah the d&d devs are so dumb, making questionable decisions all over the place. this game looks way more fun and arcadey
@@overkill852 the arcady part is the one that sucks. This game tries to be CoD for CS players.
this game is dark and darker for people who dont want a challenge
@@RelaxingBooters dark and darker for kids
This feels way better than Dark and darker
i bet you play lol
hell naw it doesn't
Its actually laughably bad compared to DND..
@@Dasistriteplayed it and i would prefer to play it for free than paying 30$ + for battle passes in DND. This game is good but it has balance problems and creators don't give a f
I’m 100% playing this. Looks extremely fun to play.
its rip off of Dark and Darker. Want original, Dark&Darker is what you want
Dungeonborne is a better game. I’ve played both. DB is more polished, but competition is good.
@@Aegis19731 insane take, ive played hours and hours of both. dark and darker is much better in pretty much all aspects
You should be playing the better product, who cares if it's the original. @@samartikov6045
@@samartikov6045 Who cares if it's a ripoff, it's a more polished version with more content.
I want everyone to remember that competition is good for games..
Can we all look at tarkov as a prime example for what happens when an extraction game goes unchallenged..
Also dark and darker still has a case going on against it, it could still go under.
Ironmace won the battle. The case is closed. The court decided that what nexon said was bullshit with no evidence.
No it doesnt, case was settled before the game was put back on steam. The only thing that dark&darker doesnt have going for them is a large dev team.
Nope. The case was ongoing for quiet a long time and was the reason it wasn't released on Steam or Epic. Case was closed months ago, that's why it's on steam and Epic.
@@notsure3345 yeah this guy is just lying at this point
Also... competition is good. But if dark and darker is like a 50k car, this is a 2k car. Thats not really competition. We need someone to release a 100k car so that dnd will step it up some. This budget student project isnt it😂😂
It’s so nice to see Jack learning a new game. Super refreshing. Jack not knowing things, getting surprised and/or scared and maybe damaged is hilarious
It's like he has never played video games before. It's crazy some of the stuff that's basic gaming knowledge that he just doesn't know
You're last line contradicts you're first line.@@kaganatorplays9205
Werewolf? There wolf. There castle.
This looks absolutely incredible. Please play more of it!
Wait a minute, this looks familiar…🤔
dark and darker lmao
look up dark and darker drama with nexon you will understand
Its made with the Dark and Darker Engine
@@johnquinn965different… but same same
@@jamfaon708nexon is looking over everyone’s shoulders for the answers lol.
really been enjoying this game, looking forward to see it develop
just spent all my free time playing the play test for the last 5 days. cant wait for early access and hope the devs make the game really rise to its full potential
patch notes cooked today! (pre release)
It was fun listening to the banter. This really reminds me of some old school gameplay. Takes me back about 10 years or more
Sir your David Attenborough impersonation is REALLY GOOD!
seems very interesting. got instant access to the playtest. Downloading right now! ty jack
You havent got long xD
@@cunningpanda god damn it! soooo i wait for release is guess xD
@@pyl0w57 Bad timing :( We get a release date announcement tomorrow :)
@@cunningpanda bad timing seems to be the headline of my life xD
Ppl complaining that this game is similar to dnd. Wait till they find out the other fps games , they are gona shat their pants
People arent complaining its similar... we are complaining its so bad😂 dnd needs competition but i mean this isnt 5% of dnd😭
It's not just similar, it literally used some of the same assets like the interaction animation for example.
But the irony is that the DaD devs had a lawsuit about stolen assets which they won by proving they used all these store assets legally available for commercial use, and apparently now the DB devs are using those too. 😅
Thank you so much for introducing me to this game, I tried it the last day of the playtest and love it. I'd really love to see you play more of it after release and help bolster its player count.
I cinda like watching this. Its verry relaxed gameplay and nothing overwelming.
You can call it rip off all you want, this is waaaay better than dark and darker on every aspect
its looks exactly the same gameplay wise the only true difference is the art style which gives it a lighter feel , like a fantasy game meanwhile dark and darker is a dark fantasy but i honestly like that there is two different games hopefully it makes the devs to try their hardest on making the better game which could only be good for us lol
@@EmpireK2 You sure its the same gameplay? Because DaD's melee combat had more weight and it looked sluggish while Dungeonborne is more arcadey. That and DB has some quality of life stuff that I wish Far and Darker had.
Got to say this looks way better than that other game.
played this back in the old play test (jan or feb) and it looks like it’s improved sooo much!
its also announced as a F2P just recently on their discord, so be ready tomorrow.
No Pay 2 Win added, only cosmetics basically
i played the first playtest a few months ago, loved it. Combat is so much better than Dark n Darker.
Seems way more polished and thought out compared to dark and darker, which seems similiar but as the cheaper cousin
You clearly haven't played Dark and Darker :D
this may look more polished, but dark and darker combat wise feels more polished imo
@@_io.n More polished but far more imbalanced. And practically everything else this game does better, the experience and talent the devs have here is showing very clearly.
is this a fkn joke????
The first dnd style game that runs well and makes it onto console will be a hit. Would make a lovely change up for my group of mates, bored of rebirth island but lacking anything coop. Remnant 2 was great, but didnt have that pvp aspect.
Jack rocking the moonveil.
Took part in the play test, this game is amazing & fun with a full squad
Well done! The effort and passion are evident.
we need more games like this
I'm so glad you did the 'how can you kill that which has no life?' reference haha
"BAT!" - Laszlo Cravensworth
That's all I kept hearing.
Dark Messiah was an epic game, even though my pc at the time ran it at PowerPoint presentation speeds.😂 This game brought back nostalgic memories.
I have been playing this game for a day now and love it, but I have never even seen that reaper boss.
Your encounter with him reminds me of the early days of Everquest 1, and that underground part reminds me of the Queynos sewers in EQ1, which I adore. 🥰
0:04 You're a wizard, *Hairy*
The models and animation are remarkably good.
Dude..what a great game! You guys need a third to help take down bosses. Please play more of this.
I have 15 hours of playtime in this game and never saw a cycle that opened 3 portals at once. Didnt knew that this is possible. Thought only 1 max
Literally everything about this looks a hundred times better than dark and darker
I'm excited to try, and its free?
@@kurisechan88100% f2p
Literally everything about this looks worse what are u tokin 😂 bro combats worse, animations worse, difficulty is piss easy, graphics are terrible, itemization is worse, and so is class fantasy🤭
@@Odyssey636 graphics are worse? are you blind lol
It's not, some things are better, some things are worse.
But I personally like it a lot better.
Bro put a jacked up Shrek as a thumbnail.
That deserves a like
The second ever Dark and Darker like game
To anyone on the fence, just play it. It's Leagues better than Dark and Darker. That's not to say Dark and Darker is a bad game, but this game just opens a lot more possibility. I could go on WAY longer about this, but just... do it. You won't regret it. To anyone saying it's a copy, just play it yourself, and you'll see how much more developed it is. Dark and Darker paved the way for a genre like PUBG did. Other's will take the torch further in honor of it. This game fucking slaps.
I played a lot of this playtest, it's awesome
As someone who.plays Dark and Darker the combat aspect in Dungeonborne was way more fun.
I was surprise how fun this game was.... not im lookjng forward to the other dungeon crawler. Dungeonstalker hopefully its also good.
This looks INSANE
Hotdogman and BarryPyro on their adventures lmao.
Now Where have I seen this Before...?
Dark and darker?
dark and darker
Either dark and darker or greed is good only difference between the two is greed is good is free to play
@@SIGMA-52Dark and darker is also free to play?
@@amarumurga846 not to my knowledge but it might have become free to play last time I checked there was a paywall but I'm completely willing to accept that I'm wrong
sure much more watchable than dark and darker. combat actually looks good in this one.
Jack playing with friends is always excellent
17:58 He's put me into his realm! 😂😂😂
00:13 gives me the elder scrools oblivion VIBES 😂😂😂
I have no clue what the intro music is for this, but whenever I hear it in Jack's videos, I know it's gonna be good!
It's KBS isn't it!!! I love it!
compared to dark and darker i like the creature comforts it has. Seeing damage and knowing what color loot a dead mob has
Lets goooo!! Hope to see more of this!!
15:21 No Jack, that is *not* a whole thing with dungeons and dragons.
“Gurgi’s dead!”
Ahh nostalgia
Never played Dark and Darker but always wanted to. This game I might have to check out.
holy moly this game looks a 100 times better than dark and darker
im really into both dark and darker and Dungeonborne - genre is new to me and like the slow hardcore playstyle.
0:10ish... * Looks at first 10 secs of the Vid and its style... * Wow, someone actually dared to try out mashing Diablo and Skyrim together...? O_0
12:15ish... Wow these are some tough ass enemies...
13:10ish... Umm... Wut...? Ya think ya can handle a Boss after getting your asses handed to ya by a Werewolf who was not a Boss...? O_0
14:25ish... Axes are my fav Melee Weapon, especially 2-Handed Great Axes. This Axe the Boss has is GORGEOUS... 😍
14:40ish... ... Of course that Boss didn't drop the Axe as Lewt... heartbreaking... 💔
15:30ish... Dungeons and Dragons? Oh, that is a point... maybe this game is more like 1/3 Diablo 1/3 Skyrim 1/3 D&D.
15:45ish... Those Flying Biting Books keep reminding me of the Monster Book of Monsters from the Harry Potter Universe. XD
16:15ish... That... is a rad Mimic design... Also lookin at it makes one wonder if one would hate being bit, or licked, by it more... :P
16:45ish... Starting to wonder if Headshotting is not a thing in this game...?
18:20ish... Boss totally Baited... cool Game Design! :D (Of course that's easy for me to say while i'm in the Spectator Stands in that Fight. :P )
20:20ish... Wait, just noticed. What happened to SliceyMcGee...? 😕
Yes it bears a ton of similarities to Dark and Darker but the play style is much different. I feel like this is actually MORE accessible than DaD and more forgiving. Considering this is just about to enter Early Access and if I compare it to where DaD was at the same point this is actually farther along and better feeling than that one. But, in all fairness, I'd simply say try them both and pick what you like. It's Dungeonborne for me (or, if you're all about anime, pick Dungeon Stalkers)
This does look really cool
ah so this is dark and darker except actually feels good to play. i like the combat. just wish it wasnt an extraction type game
Never played dark and darker never seen myself getting into it, but this game looks actually really cool
it’s like if a company who tries not to curse in their content (like disney) took dark & darker & made their own version. d&d is more gritty. once d&d comes to console and is more casual it’ll blow up.
Dark and Darker if it was made after 2005
the lighter brother of dark and darker, light and lighter
looks like we r back 30y ago back on wolfenstein and doom days.
Lol mars attacks! What a throwback
I'm honestly liking the overall aesthetic of this more than Dark & Darker.
Woah this is like the dark souls of dark and darker
Dark and Darker may have some competition
Not quite😂 this looks like mobile dark and darker made by 3 students with no programming degrees
@@Odyssey636this looks better than dark and darker lmao
Damnn this looks much better than dark and darker 🔥🔥
Very excited to play this tonight
This game looks like it could be really good. I've opted into the player test.
Unfortunately it ends today. We'll get a release date announcement tomorrow. I've put a lot of time into this playtest, great game so far.
Jack please play more of this or dark and darker, truly love these games and I'd love more eyes on the game
Jackie boy, you should hop into the early access release today, a ton of game changes from when you tried it here. QoL especially
this is so much better than dark and darker in every aspect
Anyone else familiar with Barony?
this feels like a spiritual successor
Just so you know, my wife has called you “potato man” since your Starfield video with all the potatoes. It was one of the first videos she saw of yours.
Wow dark and darker 2! CoOlL WowW
I never realized how much of a loot goblin jack is
Jack: What does the merchant want?
Merchant: deez nuts
It's coming home boys 🏴
Ref was the MVP 🇱🇺🇱🇺🇱🇺🇱🇺🇱🇺
This looks like a nice dungeon crawl of a game.
Playing this and dark and darker, i prefer dungeonborne. The two will be compared to each other tirelessly, but they are actually very different from each other.
I'd like to think of them like League and DOTA. Similar in someway but they also have some things that separate themselves.
Isn't this just dark and darker?
Yes, but better as you can see
Yeah but looks way better tbh
@@elzonn fair enough. Kinda sad this will probably overshadow dark and darker though.
This game took dark and darker and made it CoD like. It does everything that DAD does, but much worse. Only "good" thing this game has is the 3v3 arena. This is probably going to be another greed is good case
@@Nyxeme How on earth is it better lol?
Looks cool!
game looks great DAD plays clunky as fuck. even playing rogue feels like an elderly person using the daggers. This combat looks fluid, and smooth.
I Need more! games awesome 💯
i like how fast the combat is compared to DD
This game is fun, it's different from dark and darker and I like the Diablo inspiration over dungeons and dragons
Dark & Darker but actually works good, im not mad about this
Looks really good. Was it fun? It looked like it was.
dark and darker but on steroids! wow!
Good and Gooder
Y’all need to try the Pyro, it actually feels and sound powerful, called him BudLighter lol
29:06 Yeah, the cyclops in Dark Messiah. Dark Messiah is such a cool game!
Do you really have to do physical damage on this cyclops when he's down? Magic is what knocked him down in the first place. Doesn't seem logical or fair to magic users.
So thats just Dark and Darker but more quality
If you enjoyed this please try dark and darker again!
single click does 160 dmg and the fireball 250 but it takes so long to charge the fireball you could do 3x single attacks for way more damage