What Koreans Think of Sexual Harassment | ASIAN BOSS
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wow! That is a great topic! I am excited to hear what the Japanese think. Asian Boss always comes up with great content!
hey asian boss korea suicide is much better than japan 한국에서의 자살율이 더높고 oecd에서 자살율이 가장높은거는 한국입닌다 일본이랑 한국이랑 비슷한부분이 많은데 한국은 남자들이 즐길거리도 부족해서 남자가 더 자살을 맣이합니다
Can you do a video on what Koreans think of the Logan Paul situation?
lol meninazi got TRIGGERRED!
"How can the victim be held responsible?" YES GIVE THIS WOMAN AN AWARD PLEASE!!!!!
every time women talk about sexual harassment (some) men are always like "stop being so dramatic!", like no they're standing up for themselves. some men (and some women too, sexual harassment happens to males too) need to finally learn that you can't just touch or grope a woman because you feel like it and you shouldn't get away with it.
PE.RI.UD
Ikr, sexual harassment is sexual harassment regardless of gender identity of any of the parties. Sexual assault of women is more talked about cuz it occurs more often than sexual assault of men, this doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
@@samshridiagnostics7593 exactly, no one should have to feel ashamed to come forward about sexual harassment, regardless of gender
It breaks my heart to see some of them hold back tears or wipe some away. You can see this is a very big issue in Korea.
@Gsd your sick both are sad
Not only in korea 😭😭
Actually.. as a korean. To be honest. We. Koreans dont care about that except their life ㅈㄴ 웃기네 ㅆㅂ ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@@ihateallrace.soimnotracist550 what ?
@@ihateallrace.soimnotracist550 tf
I’m a Korean guy but I absolutely support them. I can’t believe the comments saying “They are too sensitive.”.
too sensitive?
OK. They should be sensitive If they don’t want to become victims.
(And I also think we should not ignore sexual harassment about men.
They talked about cases of women, but It doesn’t mean they don’t support male victims.)
sorry for my broken English.
nilzen nilzen *error* broken English not found. And thanks for sharing your perspective, I completely agree. We handle the subject of sexual harassment as something that only happens to women, but men can be the victim of harassment as well.
Your English is fine.
I totally agree with you.
About the cases where the victims were male.. do you think a Korean man would stand in front of a camera talking about it? It is already tough in Europe and the United States where we are talking about sexual harassment more or less openly for a male to open up. I imagine this to be worse in Korea, no? (I have a genuine interest in this topic as well so it would be nice if you would reply. Korean is okay too if it is too complicated to explain in English)
Man, your broken English is so hard to understand. (Just kidding. Stop apologizing, and just talk. Your English is more than fine).
jesus barrera well actually the English subtitle is wrong..... she said “계속 쳐다보다” and I think “keep staring”? “ staring too much”? is an appropriate translation in English. I don’t know why asian boss translated it into “look up”. haha but It’s clear that wrong subtitle made some people pissed off 😂
You should know sometimes asian boss makes wrong translations.
"I am a Korean. Male" . Some of you say " too sensitive? Imagine that this sensitive thing happens to your mother and sister!
👏👏👏
so there are tons of cases that women intentionally report the man for sexual harassment which actually did not happen and they didn't get punished so what do you think of this issue.
and if everything considered sexual harassment. maybe there are more male victims than the female victims because even on this show, so many women touch men's bodies without their permission.
@@kc8892 False claims like that made against men usually only happens around like 2% plus most people who do sexual assault get away with it.
Yes there are cases where women sexually assault men but men are more likely to be sexually assaulted by another men then by a woman so
@@kc8892 can you mention the ratio?
@@kc8892 reality says otherwise
Thank you Rose for getting such a diverse group of interviewees! I really enjoyed hearing the perspective from different age groups/genders. And great questions as well.
what the hell are you talking about. 90% were young girls, with one token old woman and random agreeing guy.
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic lol
I think they could have interviewed more men but the elderly womens' contributions were interesting to take note of. If possible I'd like to see Asian Boss reporters try to interview more elderly and maybe also teenagers/children (depending on the topic) as that would provide a more apparently balanced sample of people.
Agreed
I really think it would have been interesting to hear from an older male.
Oh no.. I don't agree with the old lady. The difference between human and animal is 'reason'. Human can control their desire. People have the right to wear clothes freely. No one can blame the victims. Even if they wear dressed too provocatively.
Most people do not control their desires without external threat. Most people do not live in their rooms playing video games for 3 years because they'd be broke and hungry. If there was anarchy, people would do even worse than just looking. They'd rape, kill, pillage, and the only reason they might not do that to everybody is because someone else stronger or better than them would destroy them if they tried.
The law of the land keeps things under control. If they want to keep a job and a respectable social circle, they'll control themselves. Most people only control their desires because a stick will be used against them. Just because they can control themselves doesn't mean they would.
You need to improve your critical thinking skills.
*"provocatively" is also a word made by us, humans, animals don't wear clothes, and even humans in the past didn't, for example boobs are seen as an object of men's sexual desire, but in reality their were made to feed babies, it has NOTHING to do with sexual arousal....everything is made by human society, a sexist society.*
Not every human is capable of that.. Some men are mentally ill. They will not change whatever you say.
@Solf J. Kimblee I dont believe that. To consciously rape someone you have a significant lack of empathy, which is a mental handicap.
@@anityyu but having a mental illness doesn't excuse it at all. It just gives other people with mental illnessess a bad name.
This woman said women are partially to blame for dressing or acting in a way that gets men too excited. 😑
That makes no sense.
Are we men not human enough to just be respectful?!?
Chai like the tea. This kind of arguments make men look like rape machines, which is extremely sexist.
+Chai like the tea Honestly, some girls dress like sluts, they're practically asking for it. Staring is inevitable.
Ball Is Life Staring but not anything more. A women who dresses like a "slut" wants the attention of guys she likes but no touching.
*A PERSON WITH A SENSE OF DIGNITY AND RESPECT FOR OTHERS* WILL NOT DO ANY KIND OF HARASSING ACTIVITY.
WHETHER THE LADY OR LAD IS WEARING SLUTY TYPE OF DRESS.
_Because they will take it as their choice of dressing and it has nothing to do with 'asking or it'_
(But it doesn't mean boys and girls can roam naked. NO NO NO)
Ball Is Life well, staring isn't "inevitable" if you don't have _worse_ self-control than an actual dog. doofus.
I felt sorry for the Old Lady that said before that reporting about it will get you publicly shamed
That's a excuse korean people use all the time... that's what they learn - it's bullshit. A friend of mine just saw someone taking underskirt photos from girls inside a train.
None cared about that guy, although it was so obvious and everyone must have seen it xD Even these things are kinda normal in korea and don't get reported.
로빈 that's seriously messed up. Wish the government would do something about it
TheGetout04 they had it hard but that one girl who was like "he was looking my body up and down while i was wearing hot pants" is ridicilous men cant avoid such scenery dont blame them as long as its just looky looky
Shu C. they CAN avoid. What are men? Animals that just follow their instinct and don't have conscience?
Giovanna Heloise Yes.
For those poking fun at being "stared" at and how that could possibly relate to sexual harrassment have clearly never experienced it before. Rather than mocking the comments the girls in the video made, maybe you should question why they said it in the first place.
Some guys have no concept of the privilege they have walking around freely at night, not being catcalled, not being touched or talked about like an object, because it just never happens to them.
Please educate yourself and try to learn about other people's experiences rather than live in your own entitled bubble and ignore the realities of other people.
Privilege - check
Educate yourself - check
Mansplaining - no mention
toxic masculinity - no mention
rape culture - no mention either
Not enough buzzwords. Feminist fail.
Also bro..you must be so much fun at parties...
LOLOLOLOL, male tearsssss
Jesus....its not like men are more prone to be the initiators/proponents of violent crimes or something right?
but sure its all just privilege.
Welcome to Testosterone
Guys fight more than females - physically fight..
B.o.B aka the real Neil Degrasse Tyson you're equating the victim to being the same as the attacker. That just makes your comment stupid.
I really love that this reporter interviewed a broader range of ages than usual. Asian Boss seems to mostly interview people in their 20's and 30's, but rarely interviews middle aged and especially elderly people (though, the elderly are typically left out of most media conversations). This is almost certainly because younger people are more open to talking about the topics Asian Boss covers. Perhaps the location of the interviews or the age of the interviewer may also play a role in the demographic willing to be interviewed. Though no easy task, it would be really great if there was a little more effort put into seeking age diversity in the interviews. Seeing how opinion differs between generations would provide a more comprehensive perspective.
100% Agree!!! Great job Asian Boss!
'Women in south korea are too sensitive' saw a lot of comments like this. Maybe they are from someone's point of view, but you just saw that almost 90% has been harassed at least once. Sexual harassment is obviously not so serious in your country. In my country it is so common that some people even call it NORMAL. They don't even get punished. Please think about it.
u know what? 99% south korean men has been harassed at least once too.
oh yeah south korea is rape paradise. right?
No, we saw that one moron said 90%, and we saw that you took that as a statistical fact. That's one of the biggest problems. The other being one moron thinks that someone looking at you is sexual harassment. By that definition, I would think close to 100% of the population, male and female, had been looked at, and so sexually harassed.
JonnyC 289 you say 30-40% like it's a small number, that's fucking huge and still insanely fucked up
Blood Angel Even hermits who live in the mountains would have been sexually harassed by their mothers, as they've at least been looked at by their mothers, even worse if they had midwives. Can't imagine how horrific it would be if it was a whole team of doctors instead. Otherwise I think some ants or animals may have looked in their direction, hence they must have been sexually harassed by animals as well. Oh the horror.
Considering their definition of sexual harrassment maybe it is true....
When people say 'short clothes' encourages sexual harassment it's bs, there are people out there who are covered from head to toe, or even wear layers and still get sexually harassed. The harasser should have full blame, keep your pants on ffs
Vincent Gaspar being sexy is a crime now lmaooookk
Its true...women who wears short cloths should be blame..
@@buffboi9454 then dont buy a house or you might get robbed
@@buffboi9454 Don't breathe the same air as me
If a woman wears a very short skirt she does so because she wants men to notice, which is perfectly okay. But then when a man stares at her she starts crying sexual harassment. Give me a break!
I was catcalled and groped in Abu Dhabi while wearing a short skirt. I thought it was the skirt so I threw it away. I got assaulted again at a friends home while wearing a big sweater and big joggers. It’s not the clothing.
Wtf. At your friends house?? I’m so srry. I hope you’re ok
Oh my goodness, I'm so sorry that happened to you. I hope you're doing better.
YO it's definitely not the clothing I was wearing a flipping hijab in a Muslim country fully dressed, it's the creeps that are the reason why it's happens not the outfit whatsoever.
its an islam rule
you have to obey them in muslim country
@Nagato is better than Punk Naruto That is very rude to say, im not one to get upset over comments but you should be careful when doubting someones story, they might feel very upset. I dont bear a responsibility to convince you, you should be decent and not be rude.
women: sexual harra-
men: FEMINISTTTTTT#!!@ OMGSFSWJSI, "nOt AlL mEn" blahblahhh
Jennie Block thank you omfg. I can't believe the amount of disrespect in the comments :(. Women express concern and fear of being harassed, raped, and hurt. and men always have to go "UGHHHH FEMINISTS". like jfc, sorry I'm scared for my own safety.
BananaWonYoo totally agree. Honestly not all people are alike. Just some have patterns that make it seem it's repeating.
Thats a straw man.. No one ever said that to a woman after saying the word sexual harassment. Most comments here are offended at the starring and terrible idea that feelings should determine what is and isn’t sexual harassment.
nothing more fragile than the male ego
@@lisah1922 Their comment was a hyperbole of real life situations.
I'm glad you covered this issue! My friend (who lives in Korea) thought that most people don't pay attention and media doesn't want to focus on it too much...
??????
I knew that was true
I really appreciate that the commenters are more upset about one girls opinion that "looking a girl up and down" can be sexual harassment than the two women saying that it's a woman's fault if she wears a short skirt or if they do anything that "gets men excited". No one is gonna mention that. Or the fact that a girl said that she'd be so embarrassed she'd rather go through it alone and never speak up. Or the fact that the girl literally right after says that it shouldn't be based on feeling, it should be based on an objective measurement. I couldn't whine about feminists taking over if I payed attention to that!
I guess being offended by anything vaguely "feminist" now overrides being offended about actual shit that matters, like sexual assault being this common and still so shameful that people can't be honest about their experiences and perpetrators are never really punished. Good priorities guys. Nice.
The thing is that this topic is moral BS made up to control people like so many other things like religion and stuff; so while you are thinking about what are the way of harrasment, the people in control is still looking at other people like they really are, flesh, bones, money bags, tools, etc. Just think about it and tell me later if you keep playing their game or you become someone above blind average.
김미나 finally I find this comment...the first comment I saw was a bs rant about feminist agenda and shit,,,I've basically given up on humanity at this point smfh
preach!
you do not deserve kirie
김미나 The problem is that if "actual" sexual harassment gets defined as checking out a woman from a far, basically every man would suddenly be a sexual offender. I agree that it's important to discuss the problem of sexual harassment but to do that we need clear definitions of what sexual harassment actually is. Definitions like the one this woman gave are dangerous to our society and shift the focus away from actual victims of sexual harassment.
Women: speaking on their feelings about sexual harassment
men(some): triggered!!!
MikeTO well then, that’s not racist statement, you’re clearly not a racist right?
Yep, these ham-fisted idiots are always gonna exist though, just gotta thin the herd via education. Kinda hard when it's a complex social issue, but hopefully it'll work somewhat
Case in point: give it up for Mike, our very generous volunteer ham-fister!
man speaks about sexual harassment. He's a pussy.
Yeah, it's quite ironic. Women speak out against a serious social issue and then some men call them triggered while the actually triggered ones are the dudes in the comment section who can't handle the truth. Doesn't matter how often sexual harassment is mentioned, it always isn't as big as a problem as they make out to be or ''why won't anyone think about the men??!?!?!''.
I can really relate to the woman with red hair and fluffy sweater had to say. Thank you Asian Boss for a great interview can't wait what's next.
what do you mean? that women shouldn't sexually "encourage" men because of the way the express themselves? they could be misread?
I like the contrast of opinions between the younger and the older generation of women. The fact that younger ones don't accept that sexual harassment is their fault as compared to the older women, is proof we are moving forward as society albeit slowly - even if it may seem it's totally bleak sometimes.
It can be difficult to say something if you feel uncomfortable in a situation. Sometimes we stiffen up or wonder “is this really happening?” Everyone should practice saying “no” firmly, so if you end up in a situation where you told them to stop and they continued, at least you can confirm that you made it clear that you were uncomfortable if you report them and have to detail what happened. Always aim to be clear and precise!
paloma Thank you. I'll remember this.
Woman is just woman, not sexual subject. If a lot of people realized this simple fact, they wouldn't stare at and say anything about my short skirt. and the victims in korea always have to prove their best "I'm real victim!" Who wants to be victim?
Until the day you no longer have boobs, butts, and vaginas and until the day women stop objectifying themselves to get ahead in society men will continue to objectify women. It's sad but true.
@@nolifey you cant objectify yourself wtf is wrong w you
I've always wondered about the normal Korean's perspective on this because of the normality of harassment in Kdramas. It seems that girls are always being dragged around by men in Kdramas and it seems not to be a big deal in a media sense. I know not a lot of Koreans watch Kdramas compared to some Americans but perhaps these Tv shows may factor into why sexual harassment occurs in Korea? (Don't get me wrong, I still love Kdramas but sometimes I get irritated by sexism or the way women are treated in them).
alex bollinger Sexism is going on not only because of men but also women.
No guy friend of mine told me to 'do it like a man.' It was actually girl who said that.
Some girls expect you to act and behave like a man and dragging your girlfriend(who is your lover other than that, it is viewed as misconduct.) not really violently but manly way is sometimes viewed as masculin behavior. I didnt do it really but some girls even fantasize on that. Those K dramas are mostly written by female writers.
My point is, that might seem like sexism in your view but It might be little different in Korea. By both men and women.
Lol try to do what they do in K dramas in Korea. You'll probably soon find yourself in jail for half of it.
Sort of like if you did what Edward does in twilight.
I'm Korean and I totally agree with this. Women in most Korean dramas make me feel sick. The society has changed but the writer of the dramas still living in 70's-80's when women had to be submissive.
The Korean women love it they always shout "Oppa"
This is so sad... but thank you for doing this. I’m glad to see that more and more people are aware of the importance of talking about these issues. Baby steps I guess.
Thank you for going over an important topic.
To the people who are disagreeing that gawking at a woman is not sexual harassment - Do you even know what harassment means? It doesn't have to be grabbing or yelling. Harassment comes in all forms, whether it's obvious to the eye or not.
BananaWonYoo ur comment just offended me. Get ur lawyer because we are in the 21 century where u cant offend anyone and don't even bring up freedom of speech. U hurt my feeling and u should loose ur job now and go to jail
NosuGamer listen, I never want to fight or insult people. I understand that it does seem that women are being overly sensitive. but please consider that women are being sensitive about this because they're worried for their safety. yes, just glancing at someone isn't harassment. Im not saying that just because woman is glanced that, she should report it to the police or cry to everyone about it. I just wish that men would be more mindful and considerate when woman does express discomfort. is that too much too ask? must you attack?
I just dont like this easily triggerd trend. Of course you should be mindful and considerate when a woman expresses her disomfort. But the woman in the video reported her boss after just one sentence while they were drinking. SRSLY? We sure dont know the backgroundstory but thats what she makes it sound like. Fighting this issue does not end with strengthening laws against it. It It ends with fundamentaly changing peoples minds about treating each other. Otherwise it will just be men vs women and no dating because how am i gonna meet someone if im just goonna go to jail for looking at someone who just happened to be afraid of men
BananaWonYoo I imagine the bitch coming to the policeman and saying "A GUY LOOKED ME"
NosuGamer uh you think she shouldn’t have reported her boss? For god’s sake he said “You have nice tits” to a female employee! This is not only unprofessional but so inappropriate. Imagine how uncomfortable the woman must’ve felt? Do you think it’s okay to say such remarks to females?
YAY ASIAN BOSS!! FINALLY, you spoke to some adults and not students and student aged ppl with very limited life experience. The 2 middle aged women you spoke to had the most informed opinions which pulled from korean work place traditions, where I personally feel the real long term harassment, and fear of talking about it, really exists. And once again the laws and rules are in place but there is no enforcement. There are enuf rules and laws, what is needed is enforcement. Its gotten better here in the USA but when I am working in seoul, its rampant....I almost can't believe what I see and hear in Korean offices. There is obviously no enforcement as the perpetrators I see do it fearlessly with no impunity....its like the USA in the 1950s or something. It's pretty shocking honestly as an American working there. It actually makes me kind of angry and it's very hard for me to keep my mouth shut. Sometimes I just can't and I rely on English speaking slang as some kind of retaliation to not be understood. Oh, for clarity, I am male and see it happen to my female co-workers who are also my best friends in Seoul, hence my anger.
livingabovethe12th
Some students are adults
On the contrary, New World Wealth (via Business Insider) has reported that S Korea is the 10th safest country in the world for women, only 1 rank behind the US, and only Asian country in the top 10.
this comment section....
JiminCoffee now your apart of it😂
lmao true i fucked up 😂
JiminCoffee defintly let's just act this really didn't exist😂
Ikr....
XD yes,it's cancer
Great video on an important topic! Here's a few of my thoughts:
1. Acknowledging that women are sexually harassed and assaulted at disproportionately higher rates than men is NOT implying that men aren't sexually harassed! Anyone can be a victim of sexual harassment, but focusing on women simply brings awareness to the scale of the issue. Of course, I feel deeply for all those who have been sexually harassed: men, women, children, and anyone else!
2. Additionally, this whole, "so if I put my hand a woman's shoulder, she'll accuse me of sexual harassment" argument is RIDICULOUS. In the current sociopolitical climate, that shames every woman that speaks out and views her as a potential liar, what woman in her right mind would voluntarily put herself in that situation? To be called a liar, a slut, or a girl who should have just been more careful? To be told that her skirt was too short or she had too much to drink? AND to incur court costs and potentially face her attacker? I'll tell you, of the 37% of cases that are ACTUALLY reported, between 2% and 10% of the allegations are false (in the United States at least.)
3. And finally, what a person wears does not grant you permission to touch them! Ever! Especially if you don't know the person. I can't believe it's 2018 and some people are still acting like five-year-olds, unable to keep their hands to themselves and unable to respect others, both physically and verbally!
Regardless, thank you for such a wonderful and insightful video!
The argument about women wearing too little and provoking men is kind of BS. Men get turned on by just one inch of skin on a woman.
Its not. Women are trying to attract the right men. That's why you see young women dating rich grandpas.
@@bobbowie9350 Dude women have been covering themselves since the 1800s. Guys are still going to be horny. I'm a guy by the way. I get horny all the time but I still manage to hold it in.
Koreans and Japanese really have different perceptions of sexual harrassment. Honestly, koreans are a bit more mature. But I believe there are still some common misconceptions regarding sexual harrassment.
I am furious and it breaks my heart to know that there is a lot of women that went through sexual harrassment. And this is literally Argentina, I would say that 98% of women suffered sexual harrasment and the murder, raping and kidnapping here is a really big issue and almost all perpetrators don´t get punished.
You can be sexually harassed even without being touched, they can say very obscene words, and yes, some starings are too much. It isn't bad to look but there are ways and ways.
And if you keep saying that certain types of staring are not sexual harassment, it's because you've never received one of these.
as a man, I don't think any of my male friends or I have not been checked out by a woman. sometimes it is uncomfortable even, depending on the woman. is this sexual harassment? because in this case, harassment towards men by women happens just as much... but the grossed out feeling goes away in like 10 seconds? a minute? I think considering these types of things as sexual harassment really hurts the issue. how many will take it seriously if you say "90% have been sexually harassed! they were looked at!" ??? everyone who hears this argument will see you as crazy radical person. but if you say something like 1/30 have been touched on the breasts, butt, or genital region by strangers or non-sexualy involved party, than it will be a much more meaningful statement because the number of victims are all people you can feel enraged and sympathize greatly for, no matter who you are. it is better to leave staring out of sexual harassment, since if you knew 100% nothing more would come from it, you probably would not mind right? it is the idea that "omg maybe he/she will come over here and bother me" that makes you nervous right? trust me all young men know this feeling at least a few times in their life too... unless they live under a rock. so by removing looking at someone as sexual harassment and fixing the other issues, staring can loose it's psychological damage, since you are secure that nothing will come from it. as the greater issue of actual abuse, physical action, verbal assult etc. has been addressed by society.
Serious question, should I have denounced the girls who started at me in the past? I mean staring for a good amount of time with interest on me in 2 different occasions, not simple looks. Andrew Lee is right in all he said. There are people who have radical stances and they only hurt a cause because of that. Why we need high percentages and numbers, if we only need to understand that 1 person was psychologically and/or physically hurt for this or that action, that should be enough. By the way, there's people who doesn't feel comfortable around others and any kind of contact, even visual, might feel bad for them, in such case that should be evaluated differently.
you know there’s smth wrong with society when one (1) woman’s opinion on what counts as sexual harassment gets more of a reaction than the several accounts in the video of women experiencing sexual molestation in public places
jeremy how is that wrong when there have to be clear indications of actual sexual harrasment for it to be taken seriously at least legally? If someone touches your shoulder after a joke that you were boh laughing at is it sexual harrasment? What if a guy that you don't like got pushed into you, is that secual harrasment? Would you be able to take him to court because of it and should you? Also lets not pretend there aren't women who will say or accuse men of simple things or just straight up lie to get him in trouble. The prison system is full of innocent people.
The waiter touched my hand while handing me the change i think that is sexual harassment lol
Nowadays, it's like people are constantly on the search for things to bitch about. I see some disgusting behavior on the RUclips comment section.
WhatReallyMatters as a female for me sexual harassment isn't necessarily just physical contact with a guy but when that makes me feel vulnerable and taken advantage of as if I'm nothing but an object to be toyed with. For example let's say I'm in a tightly packed area and a guy's hand just lightly brushed my butt I wouldn't think much of it but if he's literally hitting my ass or groping me then I'd count it as sexual harassment as that would make me feel really vulnerable.
MiC DrOp BAM! So it's based on feelings. If you were having a bad day, would you consider the guy lightly brushing by harassment? I think a lot of women who go by such arbitrary standards would
"I think that sexual harassment should be defined by how the woman feels."
THANK YOU. WHAT A GREAT MAN. THANK YOU SO SO MUCH FOR SAYING WHAT NEEDED TO BE SAID.
EDIT: the point a lot of people are missing is the point of CONSENT. You grab, stare, say etc. something to SOMEONE ( because yes, this is about BOTH genders) without their consent, you have harassed or even, assaulted them.
You don't get to decide how someone feels based on your own feelings.
And for those of you bringing up the legality, notice how its very hard to be arrested for HARASSMENT? Assault is not what we're talking about in terms of this thread (although that is a whole other ballpark of dicussion) so in terms of the topic, the legality's of it have nothing to do with this thread.
Hina W thank god the law isnt made by people feelings.
Hina W Ikr
Hina W If this were a thing, I could be an offender for looking at a women for a few seconds.
Very true, actually! A very good point
Laws are made and changed based on people's feelings constantly. There is always a precedent that brings a law into effect, what decides that precedent? The lawmakers or the publics (or a combination of both) feelings on that particular thing.
Can you do this video interviewing men? They are often silent on these topics (much as we saw at the Globes) and their participation on the discussion can shift the attitude where people believe the women are just "whining liars"
Emily Simcoe 90% of us would say: If its not physical its not harasment. And thats the way i think it should be.
I think korean men wouldn't take the topic seriously and would actually try to defend themselves (talking about false accusations and dumb stuff like that)
But that's exactly what Korean men call Korean women: paranoid. Misogyny and sex crime in Korea is getting worse in 2022
this comment section is the same as any other video talking about sexual harassment. If you've never been sexually harassed then gtfo cuz you won't understand how we feel.
1. IT IS NEVER A WOMAN'S FAULT. Whether she's showing too much skin or talks or walks a certain way doesn't give a person the right to touch or talk to them in a sexual way. Even in Islamic countries woman are groped and cat called even tho they are FULLY covered.
2. "It's sexual harrassment if the woman feels that it is." IS RIGHT!! People are different! If someone says somehing offensive or touches you where you feel harassed then it's HARRASSMENT
3. The only thing that's women's fault is that we aren't able to speak out about what we experienced because society has made women think it's OUR fault for what happened when it's NOT. It is a MAN'S choice to open his mouth and say something like "you have big tits" and it's HIS brain that tells him to touch a girl inappropriately.
4. If men can't control themselves then they shouldn't be working in jobs that require self control emotionally and physically YET woman are the ones who are told "women are too emotional and irrational to be a ______"
ugh it's 2018 and we still have to explain this shit to people
edit: i said what i said. if you feel ofdended then thats your problem not mine. im not gonna read and reply to everyone who replies to this
"The only thing that's women's fault is that we aren't able to speak out about what we experienced because society has made women think it's OUR fault" - Thats bullshit. As much as I participate with the woman but I have never seen woman getting hold down when they tell people they got harassed. In contrary people tried to support them and motivate them to go to the police and do something about it.
"It's sexual harrassment if the woman feels that it is." - That's another thing which is not that easy. How will you enforce the law with that one? Now every woman can tell the police "yeah I felt harassed" and boom the men got a case on him? That's not gonna work. If you want that, have fun with men not talking nor do anything with woman ever again. And btw. if a woman clothes herself lightly she should expect that she will get looked at more often. I'm not saying staring is fine, but men are drawn to woman. You can't prevent it.
You have to accept that there will always be pervert assholes. There's nothin humanity can do about it. The only thing we can do is to motivate woman to speak out about their experiences and to motivate them to go to the police.
Also, you are clearly underestimate the power a woman have when you falsely accuse men for harassment. You can destroy lives by doing so.
Benjamin Such
let me ask you a few questions: Are you a woman? have you been sexually abused/harassed? have you felt fear every time you walk past a group men?
have you had to look over your shoulder every 5 minutes to make sure you werent being followed while walking home at night? have you ever been told "you were asking for it" for wearing shorts during summer? have you ever been told to go home and change bc your shoulders were too "distracting"?
if the answer is no then I don't want to argue with you
Eve
let me ask you a few questions: Are you a men? Have you ever felt like a pervert because you are walking home late night and coincidentically you share the same path with a woman? Have you ever felt like you have to defend yourself because of some perverts? Have you ever felt like a pervert because you look more than one to a beautiful woman (because woman like you call us perverts)?
Your argument "You are a men, so you cannot emphasize with woman and therefor are not allowed in this discussion" is so flawed that I actually think I won't ever read a rational thought from you.
I'm not trying to defend any criminal actions, but think about the men who tries to approach a woman in order to get a date and he fails. With the points you raised, you literally give woman the power to say "This guy harassed me".
Sexual assault can not be defined by what the victim feels because that is not the way criminal law works. In order to punish someone facts have to be fulfilled. This can only be achieved by having clear objective factual features that the offender can fulfill. However if this is up for the woman to decide, the offender could be convicted of a crime without having known the facts. If an offender would say nice legs it can only be seen as an offense if the criminal intended it to be degrading. If it was not intended however in spite of the how the woman feels because of it it is no criminal offense. The only way around this is by punishing the crime based on a certain action e.g. groping, pressing, references to sexual organs. Feminists just don't seem to understand the basics of how criminal law works.
Benjamin Such i never understand how somebody can victimize themselves without being a genuine victim lmao.
The young girl in the brown coat seemed like she was trying not to cry while talking about this issue. Absolutely heartbreaking. It’s very difficult feeling as if you can’t do anything about something so horrible, and to live in constant fear of it happening to you.
well, no offense..
but, korean dramas kind of promote sexual harrasement.
If guy wants to kiss you and he's cute .. girl's consent does not seem to matter.. !
성추행당한여성은 90프로 진짜맞음 나도그랬고 내친구도그랫도 심한성추행을당했고 버스나지하철에서터치당한친구들도많고 초등학교때아저씨가계속따라왓다는이야기도 주변에많음 진짜심각하다 몰카도그렇고 진짜..
남자들도 90%는 여자한테 성추행 당하는데 한국 진짜 강간의 왕국이네요 이거. 그냥 김정은이 핵 쏴서 다 죽는 게 나을 듯.
저도 매일 아침 버스 지하철에서 여자분들이 쳐다보는 시선강간 당하고 제 몸 스치고 비비는 성추행 당함. 초딩 때 어떤 아줌마가 계속 따라온 적도 있고.
baited Je 그러게요.. 남성분들도성추행많이당하시는듯
90프로 더 될걸요. 그렇게 운이 좋은 여자들이 10퍼센트나 될까요. 그 10퍼가 식물인간도 아닐텐데. 아니, 심지어 식물인간도 성추행 당할 수 있겠네요. 의사한테. 인터뷰한 여자들은 자기들은 그 당한 피해자 범주에 넣고 싶지 않으니까 비율을 낮춘거라고 봅니다.
gwajadanji 아니면죄송한데 앞에댓글분도그렇고 왜자꾸비꼬시는거에요? 그냥 90퍼아닌데 왜자꾸과장하냐고하세요 그냥 zzzㅋㅋㅋㅋ
제생각엔90퍼센트라는거에요 남들에게그렇게생각하라고강요한적없어요 전제주변에성추행당한분들많아요 물론저도심하게당했구요 꼭이렇게 댓글을비꼬아가면서 말씀을하셔야겠는지모르겠어요 그냥 본인의견을말하세요 비꼬지마시고
I think sexual assault and harassment are not that much serious as it is in the third world countries,
Like here literally women get raped and just cannot do anything about if they do speak up they get punished by their families or tribe for bringing the shame upon them and staining their pride and honor
That's how serious it is here .
And am not really sure how serious it it's in first world countries but for sure it isn't seen there as a shame and dishonorable thing to the family of the harassed woman cuz they don't blame the victim but blame the perpetrator and the culprit.
Ūsamã mæd
wrong :) men don't get jailed most of the time, police doesn't give af and isn't trained to take care of thosr cases, women don't want to speak about it bc they know most ppl they know will ask q such as what were you wearing? and say that you asked for it. it's also harder when someone from your family did it like an uncle. that happened to my friend, she was raped multiple times by her uncle when she was 7. she told her mom (the uncle is the mom's brother) when she was in middle school guess what she said? "you asked for it" even though she was a child and didn't do anything to help her daughter. her mom and me are the only ppl who know and she doesn't want me to say anything and myself idk what to do. my friend is now 20 and her mom doesn't even look her in the eyes anymore and spends more time with her 2 sons than her.
I live in a 3rd World country and i can say that is not that serious here, In a lot of places some men will touch you or say inappropriate things about you and it's the most normal thing! I've seen guys in my university talking about women as if they were an object as if it was normal, If you wear shorts, skirts, dresses etc people will think that you do it to attract men and if you get harassed they're just gonna say the 'You were asking for it' bullshit plus, Thanks to a youtuber named "Dalas Review" young boys and girls don't take feminism seriously because he talks about feminists as women that hate men and they're getting the wrong idea, I hate this, We need more education about issues like this.
Ūsamã mæd In New York I once tried to ignore this guy who asked for a hug and he didn't respect my rejection and he just grabbed me anyway, some men smack women's asses even when they are dress conservatively, sometimes men follow a woman and tell her off for ignoring him.
the comment section is filled with neckbeards
That name
"People I don't like are neckbeards"
Linyboo
That's not what I said at all, but if you like being stupid...nothing I can do I guess
Yeah....Breathe, you are right....it is quite cringy and sad to see a lot of these comments
you look like such a fucking bigot right now
why some people normalize sexual harassment?
You know something isn't right when you say "something simple like getting inappropriately touched"... If such a behavior is seen as "simple" I can only imagine what a more serious harassment would look like, not that I don't know what it is but it's not okay to just go around and inappropriately touch women or men
If you put a hand on someone’s shoulder and they’re offended, isn’t just harassment, not SEXUAL harassment
I like your name :3
Keep in mind that it's Korea and people are way more conservative than in western countries. In Korea it's not usual for people to have skinship like that so soon. E.g. men and women hugging as friends is a big deal, so is being friends with the other gender in general sometimes. While people in western countries pat someone's shoulder when they want their attention, in Korea they don't have skin contact at all.
m u l t i f a n d o m They seemed pretty on board with it when I was there
むく how's that rape? OMG I can't
If a man puts his hand in his pocket near me, I consider that rape.
Good to see perspective of Korean society. Great video !
Terrible idea to use feeling as a criteria to determine sexual harassment. If the person didnt touch you or verbally harass you its become very hard to judge what actually taken place.
john nguyen why so terrible
john nguyen I assumed he was trying to say it should be determined by how women feel (aka verbal harrassment included, although I would include males as well). So if they are being sexually harrassed whether verbally or physically, it can count as sexual assault.
Edit: Forgot to add but really, for any male/female any sexual act can be considered sexual harrassment if something someone said/did made you feel uncomfortable (verbal or not). It is about consent and if both parties are alright with it, then it wouldn’t be considered sexual assault.
If you want to be specific, penal codes for each act (sexual battery, stalking, molest etc) can be searched up for what counts as what. I don’t know how it works in South Korea, but I’m sure its different from how it is in CA, USA.
But that would completely disregard stalkers i.e. people who continuously follow and stare at a victim and thus make them feel perpetually threatened, causing them a lot of grief. They can stalk someone without touching or speaking a word to their victim. Sexual harassment and sexual assault are all about whether the perpetrator is *repeatedly* doing something to make the victim feel uncomfortable, verbally, physically, or by use of threatening behaviour.
Sexual harassment is a moral issue that is socially and occupationally punishable. Sexual assault is a crime punishable by prison. Not the same thing. Don't conflate sexual harassment with sexual assault. Stalking is not a crime and should be remedied with a restraining order which makes it a crime.
Totally. You can never ever legislate based on feeling. This is opening a door for absolutely anything. I am actually feeling harassed by naked woman pictures, I urge you to ban them.
some people who get sexual harrasment feel ashamed to report to the police even to their family 🙁
because if they report it, there are still people who would asking, how it could happaned and would blame the victim 🤦♂️
cooby ren 10969 yes it's really hard specially of its something that happened when you were young, you don't know if people will believe you
I think now we have the power and a lot of false accusations will go around. My friends used to joke that they can accuse people they don't like to get them in trouble because we'll all be believed these days.
Sara Wilcker Yea this is one of my greatest fears
Well said. Glad for your honesty
I think some women were doing that before the MeToo movement even came about. What I'm curious about however, if MeToo will actually increase such incidents.
Sara Wilcker there was a man who lives about 30 mins from me and he was falsely accused and when it came out she was lying he hanged himself. I feel for his parents having to live all there life with that pain
This is why men go MGTOW
Why are Koreans more progressive than the Japanese on this issue?
Seems like to me sexual harassment in Japan has become so normalized, ie female only trains, sexual harassment porn, that people women treat it a normal facet of living in Japan, which is indeed sad.
hoya548 Korea has a huge percentage of prostitutes. Around 1,5 millions of Korean women is involved in prostitution.
I can see by their media that there's a lot of western influence, so it may be that.
hoya548 do me a favor and delete your comment
Prostitution in South Korea is illegal, but according to The Korea Women's Development Institute, the sex trade in Korea was estimated to amount to 14 trillion.
Thank you for making this video! I think it's important to hear what people have to say on this subject and in turn bring more awareness to it.
ahhh the comment section is really annoying. By looking at you...they don't really mean just looking at a person but instead STARING AT A PERSON SO provocatively as if you are undressing them in your head and making the person very uncomfortable. THAT is what they mean. Stop trying to spin things around and focus on the real problem here and try to UNDERSTAND what they are saying! I have been stared that way sometimes by some guys.....one time I was wearing leggings....and it was REALLY uncomfortable!
If it was Brad Pitt staring I imagine you would have no problem.
Augmintt BS right here. I like how people try to play this card though but even from good-looking people I expect respect and good manners. Otherwise I personally wouldn't even consider communicating with them. But thanks for trying again and actually disregarding the important issue; how common sexual harassment is and that our society should do something about it.
When sexual harrassment is conflated to staring and making me feel uncomfortable you know alot of guys are going to switch off right?
Thanks for femsplaining it - I get it now!
Staring is rape culture!
@@Augmintt shut up troll
was this filmed near exit in hongdae? looks familiar
Things to expect from this comment section:
1. Men complaining about the one woman who said looking is sexual harassment.
2. Women complaining about that supposedly being the only thing men took from the video.
3. People (like me) bringing up how predictable the comment section is.
I'm gonna address these one at a time here.
1. Fellas, quit looking for things to point at and say, "That's ridiculous! Women are over-reacting!" These women are not trying to attack you. Yes, compared to being groped and dry-humped on a subway, which is what one woman pointed out was her experience, simply being looked at seems like a pretty light issue. But that doesn't change the fact that there are lots of women who do get harassed. You can't discredit all of the women who have experienced sexual harassment because of what a few women might be defining as harassment when it might not be. Furthermore, you need to take into consideration that if a woman has been harassed, all it might take is a man looking at her a certain way for her to get nervous and worry it might happen again. You gotta stop thinking that these women are trying to antagonize you. They're not. They're trying to speak up on a serious issue. This is not an attack on men. It's a defense for harassment victims.
2. Ladies, I'm gonna tell you right now... Probably 95% to 98% of all the men who watch this video believe whole-heartedly that sexually harassing a woman is bad. The reason many of them get so defensive is that they feel that as a man they're being told that they're the problem, and that they need to change, even when they've never sexually harassed anyone in their life. There are a lot of videos and stories in regards to womens' issues that paint men as these evil, violent, heartless creatures that prey on women and feel entitled to sex. As you can probably imagine, men don't like being painted that way; especially the ones that are not that way at all. You may say, "Then those men should realize these videos and stories aren't talking about them!" Which is true, but there's no indication of that. All they see is, "Men are evil and will hurt you." Which makes them want to defend themselves when these issues come up, thus why they tend to point out the things they disagree with instead of focusing on the things they do agree with.
To sum it up, almost all men agree with you when you say sexual harassment is bad. And if you want them to express that agreement, then the easiest way to do it is to remind them that this isn't an attack on men... It's a defense for women who have been harassed, and need to speak out; and that this issue isn't being brought up to suggest that men are evil. It's being brought up to discuss whether or not sexual harassment is being taken seriously enough. It might seem silly to need to tell them that, but if they know they're not being attacked, they'll feel more inclined to listen.
3. My best advice to this third group of people is: Try to steer people in the right direction, and hope someone takes the time to hear you out.
I'm going to tell you guys a third-hand story that I heard from my sociology professor, who himself was told of it by another professor who conducted the following experiment.
This professor would draw a line down the middle of his chalkboard and label one side with "men" and another with "women". Then he'd turn around and ask only the male students in his classroom, "What do you do in your day-to-day life in order to not get raped?"
Whenever he did this experiment, he would be met with crickets. One dude would think he's funny as he raises a hand to say, "Uh, don't go to jail," and the other students would laugh. The professor would acknowledge this, and write it on the board on the "men" side, but with no other responses, he'd then turn to the ladies and pose them with the same question.
The hands would be slow to rise, but eventually most of the ladies would have their hands raised. He was met with answers like, "I carry axe," "I always lock the door immediately after entering my car, and park under a street light," and "I always let my friends know where I'm going, or take them with if I can," the responses were endless, and by the time he'd gotten through all of them, the "women" side would be completely filled.
The results were more or less the same every time he carried out this experiment, and the purpose of it was to enlighten the men in the room and make them aware this is an actual, real, visceral thing, and a problem that needs to be addressed.
I just thought more people need to hear this.
There were many celebrities who were accused of sexual misconduct only to be found not guilty.
If these things keep happening this will make people who are really guilty get away accusing the victim as gold digger.
So I came to conclusion that there should be more strict legal punishment not only to the perpetrator but false accuser.
Then I came to think that it will make actual victims more reluctant to brave the legal process.
Any good suggestion? I really dont know how this should be dealt with. Though we came far away from those 70's that Judge let the accuser marry the rapist...
S.K. Yu that was and is a great comment.
It's a hard one as false accusations can destroy a persons life even when later cleared yet actual victims need to be heard and helped.
If only everyone was nice :(
Inter dictor Tbh thats my greatest fear as a guy. These issues are really without remedy I guess.
S.K. Yu but fear dosn' t truly exist. Has anyone seen after earth, Will Smith quote? It says along the lines fear is a product of imagination created in our head. It can or may never exist in the future. Now danger real, but fear plan insanity. Just try to acknowledge his point on it. You don't have to agree, disagree, both or none. But at least acknowledge it please
Inter dictor I agree some people should be nice. But what would happen without bad? It wouldnt be acknowledge. Then the world would go out balance. We need peace and violence to survive. Peace brings a great ending for example what Martin Luther king jr. Did. Then violence is a faster action like how Hitler killed off alot of homesexauls, jews, and other labeled people. We need both those things to survive. Even god sees bad and good. Eve only saw bad and good cause a clever snake basically told her god lied u won't die by touching the fruit on the main source tree. He just doesn't want u to see how he sees things. So eve at the fruit off the main tree. Later Adam realize he was ashamed to be naked, but with only good he wasnt. I see we need good, but I truly think we need both.
Sorta similar to Japan but the women were more upfront about it I think.
Its interesting that you say that, because a lot of Korean men who are against the gender equality movement in Korea and questions regarding status quo of gender roles and expectations have fantasies for Japanese girls saying that Korean girls (often referred to those men as Kimchi girls) are too crazy and that's why they will go for the quiet and submissive, and more reasonable Japanese girls. Add that with their fantasies with Japanese porn that is widely available in Korea and you got a pretty twisted and unrealistic expectations that a lot of those men will have towards Japanese women (funny enough often referred to as sushi girls by the same men)
Korean women seem to be more outspoken about this issue than Japanese, after seeing videos from both countries that this channel made.
I did'nt thought that it is such a big problem also in South Korea.
I don't think it is. If you take a picture of a girl without her permission that's 5 years in jail. Most complaining is women choosing to wear revealing clothes and then having the results of being catcalled or stared, which aren't harassment. Touching is harassment. tbh women (and men too) should be allowed to carry guns like in the US. "you can't rape a .38" The burden is on the women to protect themselves (with a gun), not for everyone in the world to be nice. If you go to africa you can bet your life savings people won't be nice to you for whatever made up reason.
Randy Randerson thanks for that comment. It made me more aware on things.
Randy Randerson Unwanted sexual advances verbal or physical is harassment, touching can bring it up from harassment to assault
verbal IS NOT assault. Sure, fire them, but it isn't criminal. Physical? MAYBE, but it's VERY dangerous to compare RAPE to grabbing a tit or ass. Sure I think a guy grabbing an ass or tits is very child like, but it isn't ANYWHERE comparable to RAPE or assault!
It's also bad because these laws ignore clothing. You can't act like short skirts and cleavage are the same as burqas. Some women who ARE showing off their sexuality are assaulted and treated the same as those who aren't. Like I said, get a GUN!!!! killing machines CAN BE USED MORALLY, and like in the US, 50% of murders happen on only 5 out of 3,000 counties!!! most people don't run around shooting people!
Gabriel Heard I agree with somewhat of u typed. Like words can lead to actions. But if it said in not a creepy tone of voice it shouldn't count badly.
The most shocking thing about this is that sexual harrassment is so common in korea that they just kind of normalize that once I was in a group chat with koreans and we spoke daily and I had experienced a sexual harrassment in my country ( a guy literally touched my ass) and when I told them about it they were completely fine with it they were like it's not à big deal that's not a sexual harrassment and they quickly change the topic
Thank you for this video.
To the interviewees who have been harassed I am so sorry that happened to you. You don't deserve that. It's not your fault. It's never your fault.
The way you dress is never a reason for someone to touch you in a way you don't want them to. NEVER. Your body is your own. Embrace it.
i can't believe what the old lady ! shocked ! what a lame excuse to blame and put it on the clothes for such a mad disgusting act ! not all victims were wearing shorts and assaulted in summer starting with that, and second there's absolutely no scale, any women/men can get assaulted, no age, no weather, no clothes, no anything cab be a reason for that harmful act .... so please don't make dumb excuses for it
I want to see the interview about “hidden camera issue” in Korea!
while of course, certain types of clothing do have some influence on one's mind, but that does not entail responsibility on the victim's part. Anyone might be sexually excited seeing anything exposed, but only creeps will act on that excitement. The fault is entirely on the assaulter.
Thank you for this video, it gives many perspectives. Its tragic that many Korean females feel they can't talk about it or stand up for themselves because they'd be shamed or embarrassed. I hope many more Koreans can have the courage to speak out because it shouldn't be swept under the covers. Punishments need to be harsher. Also I don't believe sexual harassment is based off of just feeling but verbal and physical harassment.
Just because men can also be sexual harassed, IT DOES NOT MAKE IT OKAY FOR WOMEN TO BE!!! Stop trying to disregard women's voice. Raise up your voices as well but don't ever, for even a second, try to make it seem like it's normal or acceptable!!!!!
I'm so glad you all did this video! Great questions and wonderful answers!
While i do agree with most of what was said in the video, there should be a line drawn at some point. If looking, which can hardly be proven or disproven, is considered a crime it just becomes a weapon nobody can defend against.
Well said
As one of the interviewee said, for there to be laws and regulations against sexual harassment, there needs to be an objective set of standards of what counts as harassment. I do believe that a certain way of looking at someone such as if someone was staring at you and scanning you up and down, can be counted as harassment. Of course, just slight glances would be extremely hard to make a case for harassment and if someone was just really standing out of the norm, it might be really difficult not to glance. But, someone really intensely glaring at a certain body part longer than a certain period of time I think could be made for a case given the evidence. Also, having a law on something works as preventative measure and a way to clearly state a standard, and when there is a law that states that unwanted gaze can be counted as sexual harassment, it could prevent a lot of the unwanted stares that people get.
John Kevin Lol
No looking is not harassment no matter how long or if you prove they were looking.
Eric cha it is harassment. Not sexual but it is unwanted attention. I am no feminist by any stretch, but ive been stared at by a man who sat opposite me and it made me feel very uncomfortable. There are creeps in the world but also doesnt mean we should put up with it.
That s amazing! I was really disappointed after I watched interviews in Japan and I'm happy they think differently in Korea!
The lady with the purple jacket had the most level headed answers while everyone else was saying it depends on how a woman feels.
Andrew Williams, are you saying a person's emotions are irrelevant?
I feel that you have violated my rights, thus you should be placed in prison. due to this comment. why? does it make logical sense? is it objective? no, yet I demand you go to prison for your comment. are my emotions relevant enough to send you off to jail? if not? why the double standard? with law and punishment, objectivity is the line between corruption, abuse, and tyranny vs working society. Koreans should especially know this as just a few decades ago during military dictatorship it was easy for you to get picked up and tortured just on suspicion of being a communist or spy. I also feel like the video failed to address the extremist feminist movements in SK at this time where fairly unreasonable ideas are coming forth. Korean people are somewhat self-aware, I can tell you 90% of women and men alike understand how appearance effects the communication they are giving the public. a common saying is "if you go out like that or act that way, how do you think it makes your family look?!" from dressing slutty, overly flashy, like a homeless, etc. etc. and women often see fashion as the burden of being a woman, you won't see many women in SK honestly tell you they would wear tight, uncomfortable, reveling clothes with high heels "just because it is their preference" they bear this burden for the sake of men, for sake of favor, for sake of marriage and for sake of having a fun time, which is fine, men also do the same thing with their fashion choices. have you tried to wear skinny jeans? it is a literal burden on your future children! do you wear it at home when no one is around? no why? because its not your personal preference. it is your public preference. this particular video, at the risk of not being PC kind of ignored half the issues going on in the country right now in terms of this topic. As a man have you ever gotten checked out by a woman? got looked at up and down? I don't know a single person man or woman who hasn't unless they were REALLY not taking care of themselves... the bar is not high to just get checked out once in a while... In that case, I would say 90% of the entire population of the world, not just women have been sexually harassed. as you can see, these types of ridiculous standards make the very serious criminal act of REAL sexual harassment made into a joke. if sexual harassment meant actual verbal assults, or physical action, then statements like 90% or 1/3 or whatever would make a much larger impact and the issue would be taken more seriously. when a baby cries many parents ignore it to train it to cry itself to sleep. when a child cries people pay attention but are not too concerned and may even think it's cute. when a grown man cries, people may call suicide alert and be very serious about it. why? it is about how meaningful it is! you cannot call every little thing as sexual harassment and expect people to take it as seriously as something like rape... so i have to agree with the original comment. the lady who is objective is to be respected, the others are a little laughable....
Only the facts and the law matter . If you go purely on emotion then anyone can be locked up .and I'm sure if it whines up being you who gets locked up because of someone's emotional whims you would feel differently.
Zaxor Von Skyler
It has to be based in objective facts, not how a person feels. If I feel that you are sexually harassing me right now and the only proof I have is "I felt like it", you don't think you deserve to go to jail for that do you?
I agree. She was the only one that understood how criminal law works.
I have been sexually harassed in sixth grade by a classmate who I thought was my friend. I was so shocked at first I couldn't say anything, I couldn't speak up because I was so nervous. I was old enough to see I was being harassed. Every time he touched me I felt disgusted and when it finished I promised myself if he does it again I'll tell the teacher but I never could rise the courage to say that to anyone. After many years have passed I told my mum. That's the only person I confessed that to. Now that I'm older if that ever happens again I'll speak up for sure. If that happens to you, I know your feelings but please raise awareness
I was amazed how smooth Koreans’ skin is
"only you know your self worth..." Well said❤️
Wearing certain types of clothing isn’t an invitation for you to start bothering people. Don’t be a prick.
You can tell the nice lady at 8:22 has experienced something bad and I just want to give her the biggest hug - I admire all these woman (and the few men that chimed in) for speaking so honestly and openly about this
This one is more hopefull than japanese one
My sister was seriously harassed... she didn't tell anyone for a long time because she thought nobody would believe her. It's disgusting that society could make a victim feel ashamed for something that wasn't their fault.
Nothing shocked me. I live in France and everything that was said in this video applies to this country.
90% of my female friends were sexually harassed/assaulted, women are too shy to speak up about this and a lot of people think it's the victim's fault. We are harassed so often that we sometimes forget that this kind of treatment is abnormal ...
It's so sad! I know in America, and probably a lot of the world, we think of France as very liberal, even to the point where some mock them for being too liberal. Yet in some ways things haven't changed at all. Men's urges still come before the rights of others. It's horrible how acceptable this still is pretty much everywhere.
This is a really great channel! It really provides a lot of insight into East-Asian culture. Wholly different from what we normally see on TV. Thank you!
A guy looked at me and I felt uncomfortable, so he sexually harassed me.
Because it’s all about how the woman feels, right?
feminazi is ruining south korea T_T Feels fucking Bad Man.
Sexual harassment includes unwanted sexual attention or gestures. If you felt uncomfortable then yes it was.
Get in the bin.
Emma Fallz 😂😂😂
wow, I didn't expect some of these responses! It's nice to hear that most of them don't think it's the woman's fault
Important topic!
I agree with everything, except that it is enough for someone to feel harassed to call it sexual harassment. I am careful to take everything at face value anymore since I just found out that two friends at separate occasions lied about rape and sexual harassment.
우리나라가 피해자도 어느정도 책임이있다라고 말하는 풍토는 이상한듯
한국인들은 원래 이상함.
gwajadanji 왜 원래 이상함?
@@gwajadanji ㅗ
One time when me and my fiancé was out shopping, on gay man approached him and told he is handsome and asked for his number. My fiancé said no but the guy kept insisting and started to touch him on his arm in a flirty way. I was watching all this across the room, my fiancé came back looking too uncomfortable and told me now he knows exactly why women hate it coz of what happened.
General tip, do something on the spot, like I don't know, tell them to stop or hit them or whatever. Don't go home and hashtag about it or bitch and whine about it with your friends since the chance for the perpetrator to follow your twitter or getting to hear about the bitching due to some cute gossip chain is rather slim.
In America girls are told to dress appropriately to avoid harassment but even when dressed modestly girls are assualted. These men also don't care about how young you are either.
There is a group of men that always hang out on my street harassing women but when the cops show up they act different it kinda shows that they know it's wrong but do it anyway because they know they don't face consequences.
"I think sexual harrasement should be defined how a woman feels"
YES!! I hate that many people (mostly men) are defining sexual harrasement for them to feel better about themselves, is not about them, it's about what the victim feels.
That is completely ridiculous, you could then just say that since I looked at you for 1 second too long that it was sexual harassment. In fact, at that point you could just about accuse anyone you want to and say that they made you extremely uncomfortable and therefore, it was sexual harassment.
There is a reason why laws are objectively based and not based on emotions. Its why a judge can't accuse someone of murder because he felt bad for the defendant, you need proper evidence. Otherwise people would just be going around accusing other people of things because they don't like them.
No one is too sensitive. No one can measure how bad you feel when someone either "just" say something about your body, and/or """just""" touch your body. Women who said they don't really feel bothered by it, it's NOT UP TO YOU to judge how other women feel about it. And the guys are only saying it because they're not women, or haven't been through that disgusting, embarrassing situation + they have no right to disregard women's voice and saying in this matter.
Anna Luisa So womans who disagree with you have no rights of having opinion and 50,5% of population called guys cant have their own point of niew in this shitty situation. 5/5
How come so many people are obsessed with "feminism" here? If you arent guilty you wouldnt have to be so sensitive about victims talking about their feelings abd thoughts. You think this is biased?too much?shaming all men? Then i guess you have harassed someone before but wants to shut up the victims.
great video. i was kind of scared to watch this because i was worried i wouldnt like what they say, but im glad that they want this to be a more open topic too. i hope you can make a video asking people about male sexual harassment victims too. i think that needs to be talked about to so that both men and women can feel comfortable speaking out. again, great video
Are people really this dumb they think just looking is sexual harassment? NO! OBVIOUSLY SHE MEANT starring at someone, feeling that probably only law is protecting you from rape!
dramatic much?
Augmintt no, it's true unfortunately
That woman who said she would likely end up struggling with it alone broke my heart. I hope her friend next to her encouraged her to speak about it god forbid anything happen. I just hope a better climate for coming forward is fostered and those who make false accusations that damage those with legitimate claims are punished appropriately.
I believe there should be a harsher punishment either for the harasser or for the false accuser. There's too many people that lie to get ahead; so sexual harassment can't be measured by how he/she feels emotionally/verbally. Strong enough evidence, or face the punishment of the court system.
I would agree in an ideal scenario, but the only problem about giving stronger punishment to false accusers is that actual victims might be afraid of speaking up in case the accuser is found guilty. I'm not sure how to fix that problem though.
Not a frequent commenter, but well done Rose. Varying views, thoughtful responses, great questions!
I feel so much more better after looking at this interview
One feels sexually harassed even on the way guys look at them
I don't live in Korea but in my country it has happened to me so many times
In summer I either wear jackets or loose clothes so that my body doesn't stand out.....it's so frustrating
There have been men who touch or comment on my chest in front of me
Oh god I had literally had no one share this with
I hope you guys do one about male sexual harassment. No one seems to talk about that.
Wow people are still blaming the way women dress for men sexually harassing them, other women even. What in the world. A lady could be naked, that doesn't give a guy permission to touch her or make the harassment okay.
Sexual harassment is never your fault. Never. Victim Blaming is one of the worst parts about all this. Noone grabs a man or harasses him because his shirt is too revealing or his pants are too short. Sexism is systemic and you shouldn't be blamed for existing.
@Black King Agreed! However, this is whataboutism, which derails sorely needed conversations. Whataboutism in effect deflects and distracts from taking responsibility for the original topic. Whenever you speak up about sexual harassment as a woman, there are some men that seem to think it’s necessary to say “BUT”. Sexual harassment concerning women is systemic and disproportionately. Please stop commenting “But men…” when someone speaks up for women.