Very good to see your video, I check every day for a new one. I started blacksmithing classes last Nov. and was fortunate to stumble on your youtube videos rather early. You are a great teacher.
Rather than drilling through a solid bar to create the pressure plate. Drill out the threads in a nut the same size as the rivnut you're installing and use that as the pressure plate..
Gary, Thank you for passing on this simple and effective DIY Rivnut tool. I was about to replace a 1/4-20" tool, thinking how little I use it in my field job and yet how expensive to replace the bit.
Brilliant . I used this on my bug heater-channel after the old nut broke loose and I was left with just a hole and didn’t fancy welding my freshly painted bodywork ! I used a stack of washers and an M8 long body nutsert , worked a treat and saved me a lot of ball-ache . 👍🏻
Thanks Gary for this. I had never heard of rivnuts before, so this has given me a few ideas. I've been slowly recovering from "Tennis Elbow" on my left arm for the last 3 months, caused by twisting 20m solid bar! Hope you get the wrist sorted and get back into the swing of things. Cheers.
hi gary hope surgery comes ok. please take good care of it and let it heal good (some yrs ago i broke my rh wrist very badly, pins and metal bars all over it... bc of an mx crash... went back to work too soon and took ages to heal). thanks for this video it came as godsend as i`m making new panels for the doors of my truck and i will fix them to the doors using m4 rivnuts and button head allen bolts. now i have a tool to make. thanks man. pete
I hope at this stage you are fully recovered and thanks for the videos.The rivnuts I have come with small serrations on the tube and I would guess that is intended to stop them turning in the hole if it is drilled to the correct size. When they are installed in thin material the serration take on the appearance of a star washer. As for special tools, the cheap hand tool I bought is straining to set a 6mm rivenut even though it is supposed to set up to 10mm. May be in aluminium not anything else. Your system is better. All the best.
Thanks Gary, Great clip, simplified. FYI I will be using stainless rivnuts on the fibreglass flooring (deck) of my boat to secure a pedestal stand, which my swivel seats are mounted on. This will prove beneficial if water tight, not that there is much water on the floor in the forward cabin of the boat. Cheers Rob
Best videos on blacksmithing and metal work.Please dont aplogize for surgery.YOUR A WORKING MAN! and life catches up to us all. Look forward to all of your videos. P.S. Wish you could just make videos all the time.
i was a aircraft mechanic for many years, aircraft use rivnuts frequently they are light weight and cheap in cost, but when your installing a bolt into the nut you have to be so very careful not to over torque the bolt or the rivnut will pull right out of the sheet metal .
I've just had a look on Ebay for Rivnuts and I notice that some come with splines just below the lip, which would probably help against the nut twisting as you tighten.
wow,you may have saved me quite a bit of grief as I was just about to try rivnuts on the glass fibre floor of my boat...now I'm thinking all that pressure would crush the glass,thank you!
Thanks for the info, I needed to install one rivnut in a bike frame and wasn't sure how they expanded in the hole. They want $40.00 for the cheapo grade of tool. A nut bolt and washer worked great. Better quality tool at No $$ Hope the Docs got you fixed up!!!
interesting video, it seems that it’s better using the bigger sizes of rivnuts. had a shoulder opp. myself 18 years ago and it’s been fine, my only medication a spoon of cod-liver oil each morning. Going to try your riv-nut method now thanks
Regarding applications where waterproofing is important with rivnuts, they're often used for attaching roof racks to vehicles. However, I'd still end up sealing the threads just to make certain there's no leaks or rust over time.
I am thinking of using rivnuts to hold a DIY EMT conduit roof rack, to the roof of my car. That is an application where being water tight will be an advantage. Thanks for this! Cheers & hope the surgery turned out well.
Its and old car. Guess we'll find out. (www.eurekamagazine.co.uk/design-engineering-features/technology/rivet-nut-gives-water-proof-fastening/2414/) I'll likely seat them with some RTV silicone, for some extra water proofing, before I swage them in and again in the bolt threads when I bolt to them.
We use them to secure cablights to truck roofs i always put a little body panel epoxy around them to ensure both it not coming loose in the thin metal and that it is truly water tight
Pretty cool I just bought one cause I work for a commercial glass company and for commercial doors all the push bars are a rev nut on one side and a lot of times they come lose and get service calls
Please don't apologize for having surgery. I (and many others I'm sure) really appreciate all your videos and pray for a successful and speedy recovery in Jesus' Name! As you say, "I'll catch you on the next one!". By the way, great tip on rivnuts!
Their are ones that have fine raised lines around the outside that U just lightly drive in and when you screw the work on top,they pull up. No "installer" needed. I do like the little rig U made for the smooth ones though. Ahhh there's the 3 -jaw scroll on the lathe.. :-)
Hvala na snimku, odlicna improvizacija..inace, imam na lageru par hiljada guzvajucih matica. Ja sam to drugacije improvizovao, ovaj tvoj nacin je bolji!
Question: How does this technique work for Stainless rivnuts? Is there enough force? I am interested in setting some M* or M10 stainless rivnuts. Only tool I see for that is price prohibitive.
I have to put a rivnut on a bike frame soon. Thinking of not buying the tool and using this manual tool. My worry is through inexperience I won't know when to stop tightening.
The bit of round stock is to keep the nut from galling the face of the compressable insert as it turns. The tool used for these in an industrial setting is a hydraulic crimping tool that pulls back on the nut once it's inserted, applying a crushing force on the insert. Our hydraulic tool was broken one time, and I freaked my boss out by getting the job done with a similar makeshift tool like this, only I substituted a couple heavy washers of the right diameters for the bar stock he used, for the same reason.
Couldn't you drill out the threads of another nut? That would be easier than finding the right bar and putting it in the lathe, all you'd have to do is put the nut in the vise and use a handheld drill to bring it out to 8 mm.
Me too... I used some thick and hardened washers lubed with Moly engine assembly lube, and it went super easy! The special tool is only justified for more than a dozen rivet nuts job... BUT CAREFUL: Only the better tools (like your hydraulic one do work and last enough to justify their price! Cheapo mechanical plier type tools rarely do work and the rivet nuts end up somewhat loose. Been there, done that.
Just buy a threaded rod connector and you're done. The rod connector also has the additional advantage that, with the exterior being hexagonal in shape rather than cylindrical, it can be prevented from spinning with a spanner, so you don't need the additional nut.
Most threaded rod connectors are made with a soft grade Steel and won't work... I use a hardened or grade 8 bolt and nut, and have installed Stainless Steel rivet nuts easily!
Thanks for the great video! The water tight application is needed for attaching something to a metal roof like on a barn. I need to attach a tripod with a radio for wireless internet and do not have access to the underside of the tin, so I am hoping this will do the trick. Self tapping metal screws wouldn't have much to hold on to. But why is a dude with a British accent talking imperial inches and not metric? I am from Texas, and it even sounds strange here where I barely know how metric works. :-)
If you get one that refuses to stop spinning lightly centre punch the edge of the hole to create a burr for it to snag on. Hope the surgery goes well speak to a good physio doc after they will tell you how to make the joint stronger without damaging it
stuart glenn Sorry but I have no faith in physiotherapists. Thirty years ago I went to several to try and help me with a bad back and all they told me was to give up my job or they wouldn't treat me. That's not what you want to hear at the beginning of your career. I went to see a chiropractor and they have kept me working ever since. Their philosophy is to help you through your problems where the physio wanted to remove the problem which in my case was my job!
Gary: People are like tools, there are a few GOOD therapists, and some stupid ones like the one that you went to... In my case, the cooperative and intelligent therapist unsderstood my needs and helped me a lot.It depends. Best wishes from Mexico.
Gary: It seems that Rivet nuts are not so common on some countries, perhaps internet can help then.Here in Mexico I had to look hard to get some, and thse were of low quality (too soft metal).
would be a lot cheaper and easier to just use a 1/2" length of 3/8" steel pipe with two large washers instead of having to fabricate a sleeve. Just take the bolt, spin on the nut then drop a washer onto the bolt followed by the pipe fitting and the add the second washer. Drop the whole (and very cheap) assembly onto the rivnut and away you go.
Hi Gary, Do you know the cause of your illness? Do you think it is caused by your work? it is the weight of your hammer? Thanks for your videos. I hope you get 100% ok. AB
Hate these things, and a JCB has them all over especially in the cab of the machine. Never fails your trying to take the dash apart to work on it, these damn things are spinning in their hole. Tried a similar set up to tighten them up, didn't work, but it was 5 mm, was worried about breaking it ofF, so I braised all them in place.
Maybe a temporary fix for a hole in a gas tank? Thanks for introducing me to this, I'm sure it'll come in handy one day. It's a shame a talented artist like you is having your medical problems. Why couldn't it have been a useless banker or politician instead. Hope you feel better. Watch out for those pain pills, they will get you
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Very good to see your video, I check every day for a new one.
I started blacksmithing classes last Nov. and was fortunate to stumble on your youtube videos rather early. You are a great teacher.
Rather than drilling through a solid bar to create the pressure plate. Drill out the threads in a nut the same size as the rivnut you're installing and use that as the pressure plate..
Or, use a stack of washers with a dab of superglue
thanks for always being so willing to share with us!!
Excellent! Thanks for sharing. Hope your surgery goes well mate! This is the first video I have watched of yours. Subscribed!
Best idea I've seen yet for a DIY rivet nut tool. Thank you.
Glad you're on the mend Gary!
Great demo. Thanks.
I wish you all the best Gary. Hope your recovery goes well.
Awesome video, thanks!
Gary, Thank you for passing on this simple and effective DIY Rivnut tool. I was about to replace a 1/4-20" tool, thinking how little I use it in my field job and yet how expensive to replace the bit.
Brilliant .
I used this on my bug heater-channel after the old nut broke loose and I was left with just a hole and didn’t fancy welding my freshly painted bodywork !
I used a stack of washers and an M8 long body nutsert , worked a treat and saved me a lot of ball-ache . 👍🏻
Thanks Gary for this. I had never heard of rivnuts before, so this has given me a few ideas.
I've been slowly recovering from "Tennis Elbow" on my left arm for the last 3 months, caused by twisting 20m solid bar! Hope you get the wrist sorted and get back into the swing of things. Cheers.
OwdJockey I had that and got it sorted by my chiropractor in three easy sessions, not had it since!
Cost me .14 cents to make this $60 tool. Awesome, and thanks for the info! Worked like a champ :)
Looking to put anchors in my ute (Aussie pick-up?) tray so loved your video legend. Thanks for sharing buddy
hi gary hope surgery comes ok. please take good care of it and let it heal good (some yrs ago i broke my rh wrist very badly, pins and metal bars all over it... bc of an mx crash... went back to work too soon and took ages to heal). thanks for this video it came as godsend as i`m making new panels for the doors of my truck and i will fix them to the doors using m4 rivnuts and button head allen bolts. now i have a tool to make. thanks man. pete
Good luck on your surgeries, Gary!!
Hi Gary. Good luck for the Op's. Looking forward to watching you again soon. Malc in Stafford
I hope at this stage you are fully recovered and thanks for the videos.The rivnuts I have come with small serrations on the tube and I would guess that is intended to stop them turning in the hole if it is drilled to the correct size. When they are installed in thin material the serration take on the appearance of a star washer.
As for special tools, the cheap hand tool I bought is straining to set a 6mm rivenut even though it is supposed to set up to 10mm. May be in aluminium not anything else. Your system is better.
All the best.
awesome vid. I'm going to try these out on my boat to hold down a deck hatch. they should be just fine. thanks a lot.
Great! Simple and easy.
Best of luck with the op. That's a handy tool for which I actually have a use. Thanks & regards.
Glad you're on the mend.
Thanks Gary, Great clip, simplified. FYI I will be using stainless rivnuts on the fibreglass flooring (deck) of my boat to secure a pedestal stand, which my swivel seats are mounted on. This will prove beneficial if water tight, not that there is much water on the floor in the forward cabin of the boat. Cheers Rob
thank you this was very handy
Best videos on blacksmithing and metal work.Please dont aplogize for surgery.YOUR A WORKING MAN! and life catches up to us all. Look forward to all of your videos.
P.S. Wish you could just make videos all the time.
i was a aircraft mechanic for many years, aircraft use rivnuts frequently they are light weight and cheap in cost, but when your installing a bolt into the nut you have to be so very careful not to over torque the bolt or the rivnut will pull right out of the sheet metal .
From Los Angeles, thanks for the video, just what i was looking for. Also showed how rivet nuts connect which I did not know..
"Back in full swing." Ha ha. Good one.
love your coldsaw
Handy little fastener, very simple tool, well done! Take it easy and get better soon!
kbbacon Thanks Kevin, I'll do my best!
Something new to me. Thanks.
I've just had a look on Ebay for Rivnuts and I notice that some come with splines just below the lip, which would probably help against the nut twisting as you tighten.
Been using the same tool and application on our kayaks for years and never a problem.
Very informative and pro grade video.
wishing you a speedy recovery
wow,you may have saved me quite a bit of grief as I was just about to try rivnuts on the glass fibre floor of my boat...now I'm thinking all that pressure would crush the glass,thank you!
This is what is meant by blind rivets for aircraft repairs...the larger diameter swaged unit holds as well as a standard rivet.
Nice video thanks, I was wondering why you did not use the parting tool on your lathe till I saw how fast the saw cut it.
Thanks for the info, I needed to install one rivnut in a bike frame and wasn't sure how they expanded in the hole. They want $40.00 for the cheapo grade of tool. A nut bolt and washer worked great. Better quality tool at No $$ Hope the Docs got you fixed up!!!
interesting video, it seems that it’s better using the bigger sizes of rivnuts. had a shoulder opp. myself 18 years ago and it’s been fine, my only medication a spoon of cod-liver oil each morning. Going to try your riv-nut method now thanks
Thank you VM!
superb, thank you
Thanks good video.
Glad you liked it!
Good luck and get well soon!
I'm looking for something similar, but with a smooth bore inside. Ultimately I'd like to insert a bronze bushing. Any ideas?
Nice tip Gary! I hope all your parts mend quickly! Go easy on them....... :o)
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Regarding applications where waterproofing is important with rivnuts, they're often used for attaching roof racks to vehicles. However, I'd still end up sealing the threads just to make certain there's no leaks or rust over time.
knurl or take a file and put small slots in the end of tube that goes against rivnut to get a grip on it good video thanx
I am thinking of using rivnuts to hold a DIY EMT conduit roof rack, to the roof of my car. That is an application where being water tight will be an advantage.
Thanks for this! Cheers & hope the surgery turned out well.
Capi Berra I don't think rivnuts are particularly water tight!
Its and old car. Guess we'll find out.
(www.eurekamagazine.co.uk/design-engineering-features/technology/rivet-nut-gives-water-proof-fastening/2414/)
I'll likely seat them with some RTV silicone, for some extra water proofing, before I swage them in and again in the bolt threads when I bolt to them.
same principle.. though i used washers instead... instead of creating that bushing like thing... but still it worked. thanks
lmao 2 washers dude. job done
We use them to secure cablights to truck roofs i always put a little body panel epoxy around them to ensure both it not coming loose in the thin metal and that it is truly water tight
Thanks!
Pretty cool I just bought one cause I work for a commercial glass company and for commercial doors all the push bars are a rev nut on one side and a lot of times they come lose and get service calls
Please don't apologize for having surgery. I (and many others I'm sure) really appreciate all your videos and pray for a successful and speedy recovery in Jesus' Name! As you say, "I'll catch you on the next one!". By the way, great tip on rivnuts!
Here in the US we call them nutserts very handy. thanks for the vid. I have been putting off wrist surgery my self.
Take care
Dave
Nice video, very clever.
Good luck with the recovery. Do you think the joint problems were a result of blacksmithing?
nate smith Definitely a result of blacksmithing, just one of the hazards of the job, have to expect some wear and tear!
Their are ones that have fine raised lines around the outside that U just lightly drive in and when you screw the work on top,they pull up. No "installer" needed.
I do like the little rig U made for the smooth ones though.
Ahhh there's the 3 -jaw scroll on the lathe.. :-)
If you can't machine metal (most of us can't) just use a star washer. It will grip the rivnut and keep it from turning.
Sehr gut
great
Great video as always Gary. Hope the wrist's heal quickly.
What kind of saw is that you've got?
Cheers
Feather Forge Pretty standard 12" cut off saw, this one is made by Thomas.
garyhuston Thanks Gary. Much appreciated.
Hi,
All the years i have been model engineering & never heard of rivnuts! thanks for the -- er- "enlightenment" !
Get well soon!
Hey, Gary, don't worry, you're gonna back soon and fine!
Get better soon!
Hvala na snimku, odlicna improvizacija..inace, imam na lageru par hiljada guzvajucih matica. Ja sam to drugacije improvizovao, ovaj tvoj nacin je bolji!
Question: How does this technique work for Stainless rivnuts? Is there enough force? I am interested in setting some M* or M10 stainless rivnuts. Only tool I see for that is price prohibitive.
Sorry I have never tried with stainless, I use a proper tool these days, worth every penny if you intend to fit many!
I'm wondering, instead of drilling out the bar couldn't you just drill out the threads of another one of those nuts?
No becausecit would crush up the same as the bottom rivnit
Is a pipe not available, instead of drilling solid bar stock?
If there was I would have used it!
I see why you have short finger nails, very nice to see a video without crap music
Is that a cooper bracelet that you are wearing,can you film a video making one,please?!
Zoran Bilbiloski It is but i don't make them i just buy it from the local chemist for a couple of quid!
I have to put a rivnut on a bike frame soon. Thinking of not buying the tool and using this manual tool. My worry is through inexperience I won't know when to stop tightening.
Why don't you use the nut to hold against the rivnut? Or a washer. I don't really get why the piece of round stock is needed.
The bit of round stock is to keep the nut from galling the face of the compressable insert as it turns. The tool used for these in an industrial setting is a hydraulic crimping tool that pulls back on the nut once it's inserted, applying a crushing force on the insert.
Our hydraulic tool was broken one time, and I freaked my boss out by getting the job done with a similar makeshift tool like this, only I substituted a couple heavy washers of the right diameters for the bar stock he used, for the same reason.
Couldn't you drill out the threads of another nut? That would be easier than finding the right bar and putting it in the lathe, all you'd have to do is put the nut in the vise and use a handheld drill to bring it out to 8 mm.
Me too... I used some thick and hardened washers lubed with Moly engine assembly lube, and it went super easy! The special tool is only justified for more than a dozen rivet nuts job... BUT CAREFUL: Only the better tools (like your hydraulic one do work and last enough to justify their price! Cheapo mechanical plier type tools rarely do work and the rivet nuts end up somewhat loose. Been there, done that.
EXACTLY !!!!
Just buy a threaded rod connector and you're done. The rod connector also has the additional advantage that, with the exterior being hexagonal in shape rather than cylindrical, it can be prevented from spinning with a spanner, so you don't need the additional nut.
Most threaded rod connectors are made with a soft grade Steel and won't work... I use a hardened or grade 8 bolt and nut, and have installed Stainless Steel rivet nuts easily!
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You can buy stainless rod connectors on eBay. I actually have three of them.
Nice, thanks.
A while ago we called them Pem Nuts.
There are a "zillion" styles for lots of applications eh... Ü
Thanks for the great video! The water tight application is needed for attaching something to a metal roof like on a barn. I need to attach a tripod with a radio for wireless internet and do not have access to the underside of the tin, so I am hoping this will do the trick. Self tapping metal screws wouldn't have much to hold on to.
But why is a dude with a British accent talking imperial inches and not metric? I am from Texas, and it even sounds strange here where I barely know how metric works. :-)
I’m that old that I was taught in imperial before we changed to metric so I know both and still use both.
I've tried something very similar to this before and the bolt broke in half. Maybe you need to have the right quality stuff.
Adam Booth You need at least an 8.8 but even this can strip after a few, preferebly a 12.9 if you are going to do a lot.
FYI....if you don't have a metalworking lathe, just find a plain sleeve bushing on eBay. You will very likely find the size you need.
Can this be done to a stainless steel rivnut?
at a push yes but it's harder
If you get one that refuses to stop spinning lightly centre punch the edge of the hole to create a burr for it to snag on. Hope the surgery goes well speak to a good physio doc after they will tell you how to make the joint stronger without damaging it
stuart glenn Sorry but I have no faith in physiotherapists. Thirty years ago I went to several to try and help me with a bad back and all they told me was to give up my job or they wouldn't treat me. That's not what you want to hear at the beginning of your career. I went to see a chiropractor and they have kept me working ever since. Their philosophy is to help you through your problems where the physio wanted to remove the problem which in my case was my job!
Gary: People are like tools, there are a few GOOD therapists, and some stupid ones like the one that you went to... In my case, the cooperative and intelligent therapist unsderstood my needs and helped me a lot.It depends. Best wishes from Mexico.
Why do all that milling just get and all thread bolt bit bigger or copper tubing.....grt milling skill though
Here in the states, we call that a blind nut....
A file would be safer great video
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Don't really need to drill out a tube from round-stock. Just use a nut that is large enough to slide over the pulling bolt. Eh?
Hi Gary where can you buy rivnuts
reuben vargas Everywhere! Any good fastening supplier or good old ebay.
Ok I'll look around thanks Gary
Gary: It seems that Rivet nuts are not so common on some countries, perhaps internet can help then.Here in Mexico I had to look hard to get some, and thse were of low quality (too soft metal).
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would be a lot cheaper and easier to just use a 1/2" length of 3/8" steel pipe with two large washers instead of having to fabricate a sleeve. Just take the bolt, spin on the nut then drop a washer onto the bolt followed by the pipe fitting and the add the second washer. Drop the whole (and very cheap) assembly onto the rivnut and away you go.
If you know how to do it why are you watching?
@@garyhuston Just making an observation
Hi Gary,
Do you know the cause of your illness?
Do you think it is caused by your work? it is the weight of your hammer?
Thanks for your videos. I hope you get 100% ok.
AB
Antonio Barbosa Yes, Yes and no!
It s the story of a human who find how save 60 euros with his brain ... thanks a lot for the tips !
try using a camera with a manual focus :)
It has got a manual focus but is a pain trying to work it and film.
How to install a riv-nut on a Carbon bicycle
Hate these things, and a JCB has them all over especially in the cab of the machine. Never fails your trying to take the dash apart to work on it, these damn things are spinning in their hole. Tried a similar set up to tighten them up, didn't work, but it was 5 mm, was worried about breaking it ofF, so I braised all them in place.
Way more complicated than it needs to be.
My God he's from Manchester.
Paolo Joe Jingy who is?
@@garyhuston U is
No I’m not!
@@garyhuston I call bullocks mate. You're a canal dweller.
What the fuck are talking about? Are you high?
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Maybe a temporary fix for a hole in a gas tank? Thanks for introducing me to this, I'm sure it'll come in handy one day. It's a shame a talented artist like you is having your medical problems. Why couldn't it have been a useless banker or politician instead. Hope you feel better. Watch out for those pain pills, they will get you
Shane K because a banker does nothing more than push a pencil about all day, wielding a big hammer and being pulled about by horses takes it's toll!
But the politician does even less!!!