This show is an amazing light on to mental health, trauma, and handling grief. I hope Olsen gets an Emmy. I bawled at her line, “Thank you for choosing me to be your mother.” Ugh 💜💜💜
Agreed. Elizabeth Olsen's performance was amazing, Wanda was is soo much pain and she portrayed it masterfully, as was Paul Bettany's (Vision) I cried and teared up so many times during the series. I sure hope they don't make her a villain. I know she's a fictional character but, I want Monica to be her friend. I want Hawkeye and any other Avenger to check on her. I hate that she's all alone after everything she's been through. She needs to be friends with and spend some time in Louisiana with Sam/Cap and Bucky. Heck, all the Avengers need care.
@@jgrAnimations23 She has probability mutant powers like Domino in Deadpool 2 but she can direct it at people for good or bad. But I get where you're coming from. That could easily be attributed to Chthon, in which case one has to ask where does the witch end and the mutant begin? Unless chaos magic is a mutant ability in and of itself and she has learned traditional spells on top of that. They never explain in the show exactly what a witch is. Are you born a witch or do you learn to be a witch. Anyone can become a sorcerer, but can anyone become a witch?
*Agatha Harkness:* _"It's the destiny of the Scarlet Witch to destroy the world!"_ [5 minutes later] *The undead witches:* _"You are the SCARLET WITCH!"_ *Abi and Imon:* _"Yeah, she is. And?"_
@@emperordaniel9595 I love how unphased these girls are 😂 if only they watched or read some of marvel from comics or at least some of the animated shows, they wouldn't be so lost
Ikr???? 😂😂😂 It's like different categories of people who watch MCU and Disney plus shows. Some are comics geeks and some are strictly MCU only. It makes for interesting perspectives.
Wandavision is still my favorite of the Disney+ series so far. I think the concept was just so unique and fun. I was excited to come back each week for more! I think the disappointing thing for me about the finale though was the unanswered loose ends like where is White Vision going, why was Evan Peters included. I still find it a little frustrating that Wanda does not do anything to make up for the trauma of the town, but it is what it is. The show definitely helped me grow a greater appreciation for Wanda and Vision, lovely series.
Evan Peters was included because he was the only actor where the audience would believe he could actually be Pietro. Had they used any other actor we would immediately have dismissed him as fake, and we would have said it's stupid for Wanda to believe him. But since we all thought it somehow could be true, it was believable that Wanda wanted it to be true as well.
I think it is safe to say that many of the things you point out as unanswered loose ends will be picked up in other movies or shows down the road. The MCU is still going strong, and there are still stories untold, including these. In any case, after a finish like that, taking 5 or 10 extra minutes to explain where White Vision went, or to have Wanda try to make up for the trauma everyone endured (and HOW could she make up for it in the first place, let alone that soon after everything had happened?) would have seemed clumsy and contrived, and those are elements that would need a lot more time and story space than that to do them any kind of justice.
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"So the ship of Theseus.." "OKAY I'M CHECKING OUT." 🤣
Monica was Captain Marvel when she was first introduced in the comics and she led the West Coast Avengers for a time. Later she changed her handle to Pulsar. Currently I think she is known as Spectrum. Monica will be back in the MCU soon along with Captain Marvel and Ms. Marvel in The Marvels. And she has been a long time favorite character for me.
Billy can read minds. So that means that he knew what was going to happen to them. It makes me think of Infinity War when Mantis knew something was wrong because she's an empath. Not to mention Peter Parker being more aware of his dusting because of his spidey sense.
The disappointment was that there was so many theories out there about the show that when things didn't confirm any of those theories people were upset. On its own though it's hard to have many complaints about this show. All the online/RUclips theory channels are starting to hurt movies and tv shows in my opinion.
The only thing I can see that's OBJECTIVELY bad and disappointing was the director of SWORD. It's kinda of a repeated formula at this point but I expected him to be enemy within the system, something like General Ross? In the end he manage to be one of the worst antagonist from the MCU ever.
@@martophrenia I've been following MCU theories from now and then since Age of Ultron and before the theories didn't had that much of a weight and something that make things worse is when people try to predict the whole show after one ep. I stopped reading comments on anything related to Loki when I saw people saying that Loki used the time stone on that falling tower in ep 4
I think the disappointment was more in how the show went from being an eerie, high-concept psychological drama--to a big, dumb sky battle. It's not *bad*, but it's a big tonal jump.
I cried this whole epsiode and everytime I rewatch the show. I been hearing people say that because billy telepathic he knew he was going to die because he read wanda’s mind but didn’t tell his brother because he didn’t want him to be scared
I like the parallels of Wanda arriving to westview, she was depressed and wtill grieving, not using her powers vs she exiting westview, she got through grief and finally had closure, she tap into her true potential and now she was able to fly away.
Agatha (reading the Darkhold): "Your powers exceed that of the Sorcerer Supreme" Dr. Strange: "Wandaaaaaaa, I've come to bargain " (he says without the time stone)
Wanda: Wouldn't being magically stronger than the Sorcerer Supreme make me the Sorcerer Supreme. Agatha: You know what, I didn't think that one through.
Many people loved the finale. It was just some folks were just mad about the whole Quicksilver thing. Plus people were overhyping themselves to believing this would lead into bringing the mutants into the MCU. Which clearly wasn’t gonna happen in a damn show. That’s obviously gonna happen in the next Avengers movie
And more than a few wanted Dr Strange to turn up. Some folks seem to have made up in their heads what to me sounds like really bad fan fiction about Fietro/X-men and Dr Strange, and was somewhat annoy none of it happened in WandaVision.
agreed! some people forget that it takes time for things to build/develop, and by not rushing it, it makes those big reveals or plot points more worth it!
@@wetfishbits Dr Strange literally was going to show up, but COVID fucked up filming.
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This has been an incredible journey with you guys, thanks for making me laugh so many times (especially with Vision & Pietro's thirst😂) see u at the next Marvel show! ❤️
There were post/mid-credit scenes at the end of episodes 7, 8, and 9. It looks like you missed the ones in 7 and 8, based on how confused you were by White Vision and Monica being trapped with Ralph.
From what I remember the 2 main things ppl complained about was the whole Ralph boner and no mephisto. So it was mainly ppl mad because they overhyped theories for themselves. On majority everyone loved the finale. Now with the Loki finale, it's multiverse time!!!
It seems like a lot of YTubers had certain expectations they developed and were very disappointed when those were not met. Tbh they just set themselves up imho. I feel like at this point we understand a lot more about the way that Marvel is taking this story and where it will lead. I think another part of it was the emotions attached. Some people don't want to deal with it or see it .
" when we cry people don't wanna see that " You're on point Imon , and it's so sad , i recently lost my mom and whenever I wanna cry to someone it feels like they don't wanna deal with me and my mess like I'm a liability , they don't wanna deal with a broken person , they tell me it's ok that's life as if I don't know that , it's like the only person that could understand my pain is the person i lost , my mom would cry with me and listen to me and never get sick of me , i miss her so much , thnx for the great reaction to this great show
People are shit. Your emotions are valid. You aren't a liability or a burden and if you need to cry, then cry! Repressing feelings like that is absolutely toxic for mental wellbeing. I don't know you at all, but if you need a virtual shoulder to cry on and someone that recognizes the pain you're feeling then you've got it. I hope you are well. :)
Actually she’s not supposed to be a mutant, they changed her origin in the comics many years ago to just being a witch so technically her origin as a witch in this show is the same as in the comics, also she is no longer related to magneto in the comics either
@@justingaffneysamuels2072 they didn't change it, she still isn't related to him. All they did was make them reconnect and magneto said that even though they aren't related he still THINKS of her as his daughter
This finale was phenomenal. I too don't know what people were complaining about. The only complaints I have are due to Covid, which had to do with Monica, Darcy, and Wu having reduced roles in the end because they had to slash the 10th episode due to it, so they reworked it into a 9 episode series. Maybe the trickery with Evan Peter's ticked some people off, but otherwise it's a fantastic episode.
The end credits scene is heavily implied to be Wundagore mountain, a significant location in the Marvel universe. Among other things, it's the place where the Maximoffs adopted Wanda and Pietro.
The producers thought it would be fun to have Even Peters play Pietro, they completely missed the boat on the audience reaction of theory crafting him as a cross-universal variant Quicksilver. They never even conceived of bringing the fox x-men to MCU so the audience reaction unanticipated.
I think is was a good idea in theory. He was the only actor who could have played Fake Pietro and still fool the audience. We knew something wasn't quite right but we were willing to go along with it for a bit because we wanted it to be true. The exact same was Wanda herself reacted to seeing him.
This was a great series of reactions from you two. Basically nobody reads that book Wanda was reading at the end without being corrupted so Wanda herself might well be the villain of the next movie.
re: the intro, Captain America didn't just reflect the fact that the US was fighting Nazis, he actually predated it. When the character was created, the US was still isolationist and refusing to enter WWII and Simon and Kirby got threats over it to the point of needing police protection for suggesting the US get involved. So the character was VERY tied up in the politics of the time and in a way helped shape them.
the second post credit scene is kind of a teaser to phase 4 saga, which is Multiverse. wanda basically heard her kids from another reality where they're both actually real. and as for the book she's reading its called Darkhold which will corrupt anyone who's reading it. i think that's why Elizabeth Olsen describe Doctor Strange 2 will have Wanda as a villain.
White Vision has the memories, but not the emotion (as it was in the comic). I think some kind of fusion is going to occur later on in a movie or another Disney+ show. There was a lot of speculation when this show aired. The Quicksilver stuff had people thinking a Fox multiverse crossover was being established. Everybody was expecting Mephisto, Nightmare, Chthon or some other dark god to be behind everything. People were expecting Dr. Strange to show up and help. And when their speculation didn't pan out they were mad. They viewed their speculation was fact and it was seen as a bait a switch or a troll by Marvel. Paul Bettany did troll people a little. Repercussions? LOL! Wanda does not do repercussions. _"Sorry about the mind torture. Peace out, losers!!!"_
Knowing the multiverse of madness was connected to WandaVision (in some capacity) as stated by Marvel, it was assumed by many that Dr Strange would show up as he should have been able to sense what was going on (at least as a cameo) but imo it was a bad move to add quicksilver as they knew everyone would speculate the multiverse. The Mephisto stuff was more fan theories, though likely assumed because of the comics (did start to do my head in by the end though. lol), I remember people slowing scenes down and claiming they could see Mephisto in mirrors. lol Though apparently Dr Strange was supposed to show up but they cut him out as they didn't want a white guy saving the day. 🤷🤦
maybe they should have just released the whole series at once not week to week so theorists wouldn't have a chance to declare what would happen and then be self-disappointed they were wrong 🤣🤣
The thing about the repercussions is that she honestly didn't want to be around people tell she could control her powers thats why she was in isolation practicing magic
She has to learn and control her powers, otherwise thia exact scenario could happen again in the future. And she cant do that in jail, can she?? So yah
Wandvision is a great show about mental health, grief and all those beautiful things. They had to conceal them behind a superhero cover, so it's only natural people felt something was missing. Like the 200 easter eggs hinting things that weren't there or made no sense and they were there just to misdirect
Scarlett Witch is both a mutant and a witch and also an experiment. They have retconned her origen so much in the comics, at the end she's just the being called Scarlett Witch, lol.
Girls yes thank you I loved this entire show and the finale it was so much fun and a great fight scene to me and a decent wrap up for everything it set up i'm glad i'm not the only person who feels this way it feels like everyone else is so negative on the finale this is the best marvel show. The only thing i didn't like was the evan peters thing since I thought it would be a fun multiverse connection but that's just one thing out of all the other amazing things I loved. Thanks for your fun reactions
Monica will appear in The Marvels 2022 film along with Carol Danvers and Wanda's story will be continued in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
Haha, 18.30, "they're going to take her in". She's more powerful than Superman, no one's doing sh!t to her unless she allows them to. Wanda a straight up Nexus Witch Goddess.
@@Anu32148 I think Dr. Strange is very well aware of her newfound status so he's not going to outmatch her and he knows that- but I'm almost 100% he's going to try to trick her and it very well might be succeful because he knows a lot more than her. (Referencing Agatha's lack of knowledge weakness) So my point being, she's not invulnerable.
I remember my friend telling me that she also said she also went by the name Photon too, but do you think with phase 4 she’s going to be taking on the name Captain Marvel since Brie Larson will not be playing her anymore?
Monica is one of my favorite characters because she's been a victim of marketing, which has given her a unique in-universe story. She was the first human Captain Marvel, gaining the power from the alien Mar-Vell. She was the leader of the Avengers for a while, but sales slumped and they brought back Captain America to revitalize sales. She gave up the name when Mar Vell's son Genisis, showed up and demanded his legacy. She took the name Photon for a while, getting another push in the Marvel's Divas run, sort of a homage to "Sex in the City". Then Genesis/Captain Marvel shows having lost the Captain Marvel title to Danvers, and says he wants the name Photon. She ends up bitter, angry, and jaded over the whole Super hero business and basically just takes a really hard swerve to Queen B&tch. She gives up on costumes, just wesring jeans and a leather jacket. gives up on Code names and just goes by Monica leading a team of superpowered misfits called Nextwave or the Agents of HATE. Best version of the character ever. Superpowered but just all out of f*cks to give.
I love Wanda's Scarlet Witch costume and the details in her crown!! ❤️🧙🏻♀️ Monica in the comics was originally named Captain Marvel (before Carol Danvers). Her modern day name is Spectrum and or Photon (she also had alias' like "Lady of Light" and "Sun Goddess"). She's very, _very_ powerful and although I wanted a little more of her in the finale, I'm fine with being teased about her potential; after all, she just discovered her abilities and it'll take some getting used to. In the MCU she might go by either "Photon" or 'Spectrum", we won't know until 'The Marvels' film is released. Also, can't wait for more Wanda in Doctor Strange Multiverse film. This show-and her moments in Infinity War and Endgame-has made me really care about her character and how insanely powerful this woman is. I'm in the same club as Okoye and Monica: we all stan Wanda. I think some people who didn't like the finale/climax have only themselves to blame in being disappointed 🤷🏾♂️ lol, because they created these big theories about the X-Men and Dr. Strange and Mephisto and instead of keeping them as just that - theories/speculation, they convinced themselves that this was factual truth and WILL happen. So when they didn't get what they wanted they were left bummed. Instead of enjoying the show, letting the story unfold, and experiencing the journey as it was presented, they tried to force their fan-theories and change the show to how they want it to play out. As for the Evan Peters thing, it was just Marvel playing a fun joke on their audience because we all knew he was an actual Quicksilver once and they are aware that they have fans who are good at decoding easter eggs and finding clues sprinkled in their work. It was a playful trolling to keep the unpredictability fresh. I would have liked for Quicksilver to had been canon though, but these are mutants, they are a lot bigger than being thrown into a show - when the time comes, it'll be important. 2:00 correct. That's exactly what part of it is social commentary of (mixed with fantasy and super powers), and Mutants being discriminated against and the way humans treat them is about. X-Men was created during the [American] Civil Rights movement era. Professor Xavier and Magneto are loosely based* on MLK and Malcom X. The mutants can be symbolic of all those oppressed and those discriminated against for being "different". The diverse range of mutants are inclusive even today. Always have been. _* (to clarify: not exactly based on which some claim, but loosely inspired by those figures, confirmed by Stan Lee himself; saying they are exactly based on both would imply that Malcom X is the aggressive hateful "villain" which is obviously false. So loosely inspired is more accurate)_ Thank you Imon & Abi for reacting to this great series!! 💜💜
White Vision, though still the same body is different from our Vision he is a incredible learning AI but with out the Mind Stone. He has the memories unlocked from our Vision but he is still a different personality.
You should watch Wandavision and Loki at this time stamp 27:30 . In loki you will see the timeline starts branching out at the same time Wanda gains her power! 🤯🤯🤯
Re: Agatha’s costume: other than her being a diva the in-universe reason for the wicked witch getup could be “relics” as outlined in Dr. Strange. The blouse might just have a flying spell and broach might have other nifty properties. Agree her getup doesn’t really fit in with the normal aesthetic.
White Vision/Ghost Vision is from the comics when Vision died. He was resurrected but had no emotions and no memory of Wanda. Well the bad guy is the head of SWORD (pretty much like SHIELD) Jimmy Woo is with the FBI and they're still the good guys in this story...Monica is the superhero Photon/Spectrum from the comics, also known as Captain Marvel. The Captain Marvel 2 movie is called "The Marvels" because it will feature Carol Danvers Captain Marvel, Monica Rambeau's Photon (Captain Marvel) and Kamila Khan (Ms. Marvel).
In the Comics, Monica is known as Photon and Spectrum. They even made a bit of a Photon joke when Wanda fired her out of the hex, just like how an old-school television fires a photon at the tv screen to work. She’ll be showing up in the Marvels with Captain Marvel and Miss Marvel.
well it's more of a Dr. Strange movie tho Scarlet Witch is going to be a central character..they meant a Scarlet Witch movie in a Titular role were the whole focus is on her...hopefully in the future we'll have that movie.
Billy and Tommy are not natural. That doesn't mean they are not real. They are supernatural. Part of what makes Wanda so powerful is that she literally warps reality. You don't expect tear jerker endings from a comic book series, but I loved this series and finale.
when somebody does a quick format to a hard disk, the previous information is still there, the quick format just allows new information to be written and then it replaces the old data, I guess Heyward and the Sword guys didnt have the time to a full format, so conditional Vision could recover White Vision's memories or at least most of them. So Vision is back, the real Vision, he probably lost some memories for good and he is going through an existencial crisis.
The scene of Wanda saying goodbye to Vision was so damn painful but beautiful to watch. There are so many people in the world, myself included who would love to have a just one brief moment to say goodbye to the one they love one last time. And as tragic as it is I think the ending was the best possible scenario for Wanda. She unconsciously kidnapped and tormented an entire town of innocent people, and when they all woke up she accidentally started to strangle them with her powers! Yes once she became fully aware of what she was doing she tried to release them all but she still hurt them physically and psychologically. She left more collateral damage in her wake than the Hulk did to that city in Age Of Ultron. I don’t think she should go to prison but she can’t completely get away with what she did. So exile is the best and only option for her. But now I am super excited to see where her story goes in Spider-man No Way Home and Doctor Strange 2. Also she has chosen a far more beautiful place to exile than Obi-Wan, Yoda and Luke did for theirs.
When I saw that episode there was one classic thing that seen in that goodbye scene of vision of what I reminded me of. It reminded me of the illusion goodbyes in my favorite show and movie. 1. My favorite was Pokémon the movie 3 where the Pokémon entei free’s the girl molly who saw and thought of him as a father and he was able to defeat the out of control power and by so he disappears when he says the one thing her father when he left, keep me close in your in your dreams, and I gotta that moment touch all our hearts. But Don’t worry near the end of the movie The real father actually comes back after all the unknown went back to where they belong, to Made that’s something I would remember back in the classic days. 2. my favorite show the justice league where Green Lantern and half of the league are in this different world Where is his favorite heroes the justice guild live in but as soon discover everything was all A illusion created by a mind powerful metahuman. As Green Lantern tries to face the big brain monster as he almost tries to destroy him, The guild wants to save him but by doing so if they defeat the monster’s power they will disappear from existence, but They didn’t care for what matters to them is saving the life a real life and using what every energy from this illusion world has to defeat him. When they defeat the brain monster it was that moment They were about to disappear but they were still happy about it as their leader salutes Green Lantern knowing that as long as he safe that’s all that matters to them real or not. Those We’re one of the closest things that reminded me of how one of my favorite cartoon adventure and superhero shows me and us and It was good to see from WandaVision How it shows us One of the best old classic show reference of being with your family and friends.
Fun fact: there’s been a lot of alterations to Wandas origin within the comic themselves and most recently it’s been revealed that Wanda and pietro aren’t Magnetos children. And in the comics she did start off as a mutant with Hex abilities but it was later discovered that they were an expression of chaos magic the whole time
I love the finale. So glad you both cried 😭 I wasn’t the only one lol. You’re 💯 right, White Vision doesn’t have the emotional connection like the original. It was in the comics. Also Monica has had 2 superhero names in the comics, one being Spectre! Which is probs who she will be in Capn Marvel sequel Scarlet Witch will be main character in Doctor Strange 2
WandaVision is my favorite Disney+ show, really loved the whole thing. Also Scarlet's Witches Story continues in Doctor Strange 2 & Monica story continues in Captain Marvel 2/ maybe will appear in ms.marvel (Disney+ show coming this year who will also appear in the movie too)
Evan Peters is playing an actor/model named Ralph Bohner. Agatha took his home and used her magic for him to have the superpowers of Quicksilver and to act like him. In-universe, he's meant to just be someone that Wanda recognizes as her brother but isn't quite right. They cast Evan Peters so that we would also recognize him as Quicksilver, but not the "right" one.
Her being Scarlett Witch isn't new, they have a lot of stories to pull from so I think that's good. She's critical to what is going to happen moving forward. Monica is Spectrum one of the most powerful avengers she was also the first woman Capt Marvel. She will be in The Marvel's, Capt Marvel 2 and Secret Wars with Nick Fury
Wanda’s parentage in the comics was changed a while ago(back in the FOX controlled mutants in the movies days), so she’s not currently Magneto’s daughter anymore and isn’t a mutant.
They might fix that in Multiverse of madness, since Disney acquired the rights to Mutants finally. At the time, they didn't want to have two Quicksilver's and that's why they killed off Pietro. Since FOX was continuing to use theirs, so there was no confusion. Technically THIS show is Marvel's version of House of M (minus Magneto), which is a huge XMEN/Marvel comic. Lots of fans still contest, that Magneto is still their father. Because literally ALL of their major comic book moments include Magneto. They literally started off in the Brotherhood of Mutants, hell Wiccan and Speed go to Magneto in one of their major solo storylines, to find their mother. Only to find out she's with Doctor Doom.
She was in her astral form and it shows how powerful she is because she can do it while doing other things but Dr. Strange could only do it while his body laid down or was not moving. Her reading from the Darkhold is not really good because she’s unleashing so much. It’s good for us though because when she’s in Dr. Strange In The Multiverse of Madness her powers will be unreal!
When Hayward brought up her relationship with Captain Marvel, I got the feeling that Monica was not happy with Carol. Maybe because she wasn’t there when Maria was fighting cancer or just because She disappeared for all those years.
I think a lot of people that were mad were mad bc everything wasn't competely wrapped up in the finale. Which is weird since the MCU rarely ever completely wraps things up
You guys obviously missed the end credit scene to episode 8- Glad you stuck around for end credits of episode 9-- and not only that- but you kind of nailed the analysis
One thing people complained about is that the finale had a big CGI fight scene like every other Marvel movie, even though the tone of this show was very different and original up until then.
You don't remember Monica? She was the little girl in Captain Marvel (set in the 90s). Carol called her lieutenant Trouble. Or are you not familiar with the superhero? You can look that up. Look up Spectrum.
White Vision was actually known as White Vision in the comics. There was a period in there where he was destroyed and rebuilt, but lost all his emotions. But yes, non-White Vision is husband goals. They should have known that any Vision vs. Vision fight would come down to a calm discussion of philosophy. That's so him. But just taking off is so... men. Never underestimate the power of a costume change. "Are they going to have to take her in?" - Yeah, good luck trying. "These ladies are nice and... they look good!" - Literally everyone watching your videos. Monica is obviously one of the comics' Captain Marvels. Aka Spectrum aka etc (she's gone through a bunch of super names). We'll see more about her in "The Marvels" when it comes out. "Is she astral-projecting?" "I think she is." So few reactors catch that. 'Grats!
I guess the justification for Evan Peters is that they wanted to create the same kind of confusion and excitement in the audience that Wanda was feeling. Some call it stunt casting or just trolling, but it did work in terms of us accepting that it might actually be him in some weird way, much like Wanda did, despite clearly having a lot of questions about it.
The problem is that Scarlett Witch is not a mutant anymore since the "Avengers & X-Men: Axis" crossover from 2014. There it was revealed that she was never actually Magneto´s daughter and therefore, she wasn´t a mutant either. Her powers are just magical. That´s because Wanda was about to show up in Avengers: Age of Ultron, but at that point Marvel didn´t have the rights for the X-Men and the mutants (those belonged to Fox) so they decided to sideline mutants in favor of Inhumans (even in comics) and tried to erase every trace of mutants. Which with time turned out to be a big mistake. Fans are still angry over that, but I hope at some point they will retcon it again.
Monica will return in The Marvels AKA Captain Marvel 2. Monica was Captain Marvel in the comics for over 20 years. She’s been called Capt. Marvel the longest. She will go by her other name, either “Photon” or “Spectrum.”
Monica will return in the Marvels (Captain Marvel Sequel).Wanda will return in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness as Wandavision also majorly ties into this movie
Wanda is next going to show up in Doctor Strange 2 Multiverse Of Madness next year in which she might be playing a villain who goes around from one multiverse to another in search for her children and this might be how they bring in her whole madness thing from the comics....also Monica Rambeau in the comics is one of the Captain Marvel also called Photon and the next Captain Marvel is named The Marvels in which Monica is starring alongside Carol Danvers and Kamala Khan who herself is getting her own Disney+ show Miss Marvel this year alongside Hawkeye and its going to be teamup movie with all three of them...i am so excited both all of these Marvel projects.....also keep an eye for the What If show...rumor has it that its a neat way to set up all the different multiverses that might be showing up in Doctor Strange 2
Let me tell you something: as someone who stayed as far away as possible from the internet theory-crafting expectations people had for the finale, I saw nothing wrong with it. It was a perfect finale that wrapped up everything that was introduced in the show with great emotional heart. People only disliked the finale because they expected it to introduce something crazy, like an entirely different villain, or Doctor Strange, or the multiverse, or mutants, which, overall, would have hindered the emotional delivery and completeness of the show as a whole.
@@Adam-xg1ch I don't get it, I've seen people saying that over and over again but I don't get it, I guess the fight agaisnt Agatha could be better but it's just because Wanda didn't know much of her abilities yet? Vision vs White Vision was exactly what I expected. The only thing I can say it was BAD for reals was the whole thing with the director and Monica, that "fight" and the kids being shoot for no reason was ridiculous
@@ricardomiles2957 It's a bs learned opinion. It wasn't even a fight, It was much more than that, and so much more important, It was a mental health- overcoming with a side of cgi magic. to say it is just another cgi fight is missing the point, imo.
The kids are Wiccan and Speed, two super heroes so they'll be back in maybe a young avenger movie. As for Monica she is a super hero as well called Photon, so she'll be back in Captain marvel 2 " The Marvels" ✨
the way i cried when she had to say goodbye to her kids and vision 🥲✌️
As a parent, that whole scene... knife in my gd heart
SAME. 😭😭😭
i’m still crying 😭😭😭
This show is an amazing light on to mental health, trauma, and handling grief. I hope Olsen gets an Emmy. I bawled at her line, “Thank you for choosing me to be your mother.” Ugh 💜💜💜
Agreed. Elizabeth Olsen's performance was amazing, Wanda was is soo much pain and she portrayed it masterfully, as was Paul Bettany's (Vision)
I cried and teared up so many times during the series.
I sure hope they don't make her a villain.
I know she's a fictional character but, I want Monica to be her friend. I want Hawkeye and any other Avenger to check on her. I hate that she's all alone after everything she's been through. She needs to be friends with and spend some time in Louisiana with Sam/Cap and Bucky. Heck, all the Avengers need care.
I can't wait to see Wanda again in Doctor Strange and Multiverse of Madness it's going be epic great reaction anyway.
It’s going to be the scariest MCU movie so far! I could only imagine Wanda being extremely mad and blasting energy in all direction😩
Scarlet Witch is both a Mutant and a witch in the comics. Thats why she is so powerful.
Difference between her mutant powers and magic powers?
@@jgrAnimations23 She has probability mutant powers like Domino in Deadpool 2 but she can direct it at people for good or bad. But I get where you're coming from. That could easily be attributed to Chthon, in which case one has to ask where does the witch end and the mutant begin? Unless chaos magic is a mutant ability in and of itself and she has learned traditional spells on top of that. They never explain in the show exactly what a witch is. Are you born a witch or do you learn to be a witch. Anyone can become a sorcerer, but can anyone become a witch?
@@jgrAnimations23 There isn't one. Magic IS her mutant power. She has a natural affinity for it. Same as Colossus's sister Magik.
My only real gripe with the way they've handled it in the MCU is that clearly her power should stem from the reality stone and not the mind stone
She used to be but that was retconned and now she is a mutate who got her chaos magic from Chthon.
"power exceeds that of the sorcerer supreme"
Every Other Reactor: 😱
Abi and Imon: mhmm. Cute
*Agatha Harkness:* _"It's the destiny of the Scarlet Witch to destroy the world!"_
[5 minutes later]
*The undead witches:* _"You are the SCARLET WITCH!"_
*Abi and Imon:* _"Yeah, she is. And?"_
@@emperordaniel9595 I love how unphased these girls are 😂 if only they watched or read some of marvel from comics or at least some of the animated shows, they wouldn't be so lost
Ikr???? 😂😂😂 It's like different categories of people who watch MCU and Disney plus shows. Some are comics geeks and some are strictly MCU only. It makes for interesting perspectives.
@@emperordaniel9595 Will she just destroy the current world reforming it to include mutants? Thats what I thought they meant.
Wandavision is still my favorite of the Disney+ series so far. I think the concept was just so unique and fun. I was excited to come back each week for more! I think the disappointing thing for me about the finale though was the unanswered loose ends like where is White Vision going, why was Evan Peters included. I still find it a little frustrating that Wanda does not do anything to make up for the trauma of the town, but it is what it is. The show definitely helped me grow a greater appreciation for Wanda and Vision, lovely series.
Evan Peters was included because he was the only actor where the audience would believe he could actually be Pietro.
Had they used any other actor we would immediately have dismissed him as fake, and we would have said it's stupid for Wanda to believe him.
But since we all thought it somehow could be true, it was believable that Wanda wanted it to be true as well.
Exactly! The concept is brilliant. People get at me all the time for saying that Wandavision is better than the other two
A lot of people don’t like the sitcom parts but as someone who grew up watching sitcoms like Wanda did they ended being my favorite parts!
@@theroyaljules39 that’s actually my favorite part of the series and her becoming the scarlet witch ofc!
I think it is safe to say that many of the things you point out as unanswered loose ends will be picked up in other movies or shows down the road. The MCU is still going strong, and there are still stories untold, including these.
In any case, after a finish like that, taking 5 or 10 extra minutes to explain where White Vision went, or to have Wanda try to make up for the trauma everyone endured (and HOW could she make up for it in the first place, let alone that soon after everything had happened?) would have seemed clumsy and contrived, and those are elements that would need a lot more time and story space than that to do them any kind of justice.
"So the ship of Theseus.."
"OKAY I'M CHECKING OUT." 🤣
Monica was Captain Marvel when she was first introduced in the comics and she led the West Coast Avengers for a time. Later she changed her handle to Pulsar. Currently I think she is known as Spectrum.
Monica will be back in the MCU soon along with Captain Marvel and Ms. Marvel in The Marvels. And she has been a long time favorite character for me.
Billy can read minds. So that means that he knew what was going to happen to them. It makes me think of Infinity War when Mantis knew something was wrong because she's an empath. Not to mention Peter Parker being more aware of his dusting because of his spidey sense.
The disappointment was that there was so many theories out there about the show that when things didn't confirm any of those theories people were upset. On its own though it's hard to have many complaints about this show. All the online/RUclips theory channels are starting to hurt movies and tv shows in my opinion.
Start?) They’ve been doing it for a while now.
@@martophrenia yeah, that is true. 😔
The only thing I can see that's OBJECTIVELY bad and disappointing was the director of SWORD. It's kinda of a repeated formula at this point but I expected him to be enemy within the system, something like General Ross? In the end he manage to be one of the worst antagonist from the MCU ever.
@@martophrenia I've been following MCU theories from now and then since Age of Ultron and before the theories didn't had that much of a weight and something that make things worse is when people try to predict the whole show after one ep.
I stopped reading comments on anything related to Loki when I saw people saying that Loki used the time stone on that falling tower in ep 4
I think the disappointment was more in how the show went from being an eerie, high-concept psychological drama--to a big, dumb sky battle. It's not *bad*, but it's a big tonal jump.
I cried this whole epsiode and everytime I rewatch the show. I been hearing people say that because billy telepathic he knew he was going to die because he read wanda’s mind but didn’t tell his brother because he didn’t want him to be scared
🥺 Ugh, “Thanks for choosing me to be your mom”, and “So long, darling” kill me every time
That "thanks for choosing me to be your mom" seemed like it was pulled from Naruto Shippuden 🤔 Feige....must watch anime
We’ll see Monica in “The Marvels” movie next year! She’s one of the Captain Marvels
I hope we still get the Ms. Marvel series this year… I hope it doesn’t get delayed 😩
@@deViianceTV I’m sure it won’t but let’s just keep thinking positive thoughts out here😅
I like the parallels of Wanda arriving to westview, she was depressed and wtill grieving, not using her powers vs she exiting westview, she got through grief and finally had closure, she tap into her true potential and now she was able to fly away.
Agatha (reading the Darkhold): "Your powers exceed that of the Sorcerer Supreme"
Dr. Strange: "Wandaaaaaaa, I've come to bargain " (he says without the time stone)
Wanda: Wouldn't being magically stronger than the Sorcerer Supreme make me the Sorcerer Supreme.
Agatha: You know what, I didn't think that one through.
@@Avocado11 Dr. Strange: In order to be a Sorcerer, you are required to meet the requirements of study in Kamar-taj and acquire a passing grade
I love that the fight between Vision and Vision, both with god-like powers, and it gets resolved with a discussion about philosophy. That's so Vision.
Many people loved the finale. It was just some folks were just mad about the whole Quicksilver thing. Plus people were overhyping themselves to believing this would lead into bringing the mutants into the MCU. Which clearly wasn’t gonna happen in a damn show. That’s obviously gonna happen in the next Avengers movie
Yeah idk what people thought was going to happen in nine episodes that weren’t even an hour.
Mutants will probably come from the multiverse, which is opened up in Loki... a damn show.
And more than a few wanted Dr Strange to turn up. Some folks seem to have made up in their heads what to me sounds like really bad fan fiction about Fietro/X-men and Dr Strange, and was somewhat annoy none of it happened in WandaVision.
agreed! some people forget that it takes time for things to build/develop, and by not rushing it, it makes those big reveals or plot points more worth it!
@@wetfishbits Dr Strange literally was going to show up, but COVID fucked up filming.
This has been an incredible journey with you guys, thanks for making me laugh so many times (especially with Vision & Pietro's thirst😂) see u at the next Marvel show! ❤️
"They're going to have to take her in".
Wanda, "who gone check me boo"? * flys away*
between Abi and Imon, You can tell with ones the mom of 2 boys 😭
There were post/mid-credit scenes at the end of episodes 7, 8, and 9. It looks like you missed the ones in 7 and 8, based on how confused you were by White Vision and Monica being trapped with Ralph.
I am sensing a bit of confusion with the arrival of white vission, I think perhaps someone missed a post credits scene in the previous episode?
They did watch it, i guess both of them just forgot idk lmao
I think that they just forgot that It was all-white
From what I remember the 2 main things ppl complained about was the whole Ralph boner and no mephisto. So it was mainly ppl mad because they overhyped theories for themselves. On majority everyone loved the finale.
Now with the Loki finale, it's multiverse time!!!
It seems like a lot of YTubers had certain expectations they developed and were very disappointed when those were not met. Tbh they just set themselves up imho. I feel like at this point we understand a lot more about the way that Marvel is taking this story and where it will lead. I think another part of it was the emotions attached. Some people don't want to deal with it or see it .
" when we cry people don't wanna see that "
You're on point Imon , and it's so sad , i recently lost my mom and whenever I wanna cry to someone it feels like they don't wanna deal with me and my mess like I'm a liability , they don't wanna deal with a broken person , they tell me it's ok that's life as if I don't know that , it's like the only person that could understand my pain is the person i lost , my mom would cry with me and listen to me and never get sick of me , i miss her so much , thnx for the great reaction to this great show
People are shit. Your emotions are valid. You aren't a liability or a burden and if you need to cry, then cry! Repressing feelings like that is absolutely toxic for mental wellbeing. I don't know you at all, but if you need a virtual shoulder to cry on and someone that recognizes the pain you're feeling then you've got it. I hope you are well. :)
Actually she’s not supposed to be a mutant, they changed her origin in the comics many years ago to just being a witch so technically her origin as a witch in this show is the same as in the comics, also she is no longer related to magneto in the comics either
They changed it again. Magneto is her father again and she reconnected to mutants again. Playing out in Trial of Magneto!
@@justingaffneysamuels2072 they didn't change it, she still isn't related to him. All they did was make them reconnect and magneto said that even though they aren't related he still THINKS of her as his daughter
17:12 damn they went for the heart with that one
This finale was phenomenal. I too don't know what people were complaining about. The only complaints I have are due to Covid, which had to do with Monica, Darcy, and Wu having reduced roles in the end because they had to slash the 10th episode due to it, so they reworked it into a 9 episode series.
Maybe the trickery with Evan Peter's ticked some people off, but otherwise it's a fantastic episode.
Season 2 - Wanda gets everything she wants. No conflicts. Boring you may say, satisfying says I.
She gets everything she wants = universre in ruins or something like that.
Comic book trope: whenever a superhero tries to live an ordinary life, expect it to end in tragedy.
The end credits scene is heavily implied to be Wundagore mountain, a significant location in the Marvel universe. Among other things, it's the place where the Maximoffs adopted Wanda and Pietro.
The producers thought it would be fun to have Even Peters play Pietro, they completely missed the boat on the audience reaction of theory crafting him as a cross-universal variant Quicksilver. They never even conceived of bringing the fox x-men to MCU so the audience reaction unanticipated.
I think is was a good idea in theory. He was the only actor who could have played Fake Pietro and still fool the audience. We knew something wasn't quite right but we were willing to go along with it for a bit because we wanted it to be true. The exact same was Wanda herself reacted to seeing him.
Except X-men *are* coming into the MCU soon so they should have thought about that
This was a great series of reactions from you two. Basically nobody reads that book Wanda was reading at the end without being corrupted so Wanda herself might well be the villain of the next movie.
re: the intro, Captain America didn't just reflect the fact that the US was fighting Nazis, he actually predated it. When the character was created, the US was still isolationist and refusing to enter WWII and Simon and Kirby got threats over it to the point of needing police protection for suggesting the US get involved. So the character was VERY tied up in the politics of the time and in a way helped shape them.
Wanda is a witch regardless of mutant genes. She uses magic
the second post credit scene is kind of a teaser to phase 4 saga, which is Multiverse. wanda basically heard her kids from another reality where they're both actually real. and as for the book she's reading its called Darkhold which will corrupt anyone who's reading it. i think that's why Elizabeth Olsen describe Doctor Strange 2 will have Wanda as a villain.
"Salem 19...18 whatever!" Pretty sure the whole Salem thing was in the 1600s, but sure XD
I like how real vision remembers everything and then just bounces like "smell you later alligators lol"...
White Vision has the memories, but not the emotion (as it was in the comic). I think some kind of fusion is going to occur later on in a movie or another Disney+ show.
There was a lot of speculation when this show aired. The Quicksilver stuff had people thinking a Fox multiverse crossover was being established. Everybody was expecting Mephisto, Nightmare, Chthon or some other dark god to be behind everything. People were expecting Dr. Strange to show up and help. And when their speculation didn't pan out they were mad. They viewed their speculation was fact and it was seen as a bait a switch or a troll by Marvel. Paul Bettany did troll people a little.
Repercussions? LOL! Wanda does not do repercussions. _"Sorry about the mind torture. Peace out, losers!!!"_
Knowing the multiverse of madness was connected to WandaVision (in some capacity) as stated by Marvel, it was assumed by many that Dr Strange would show up as he should have been able to sense what was going on (at least as a cameo) but imo it was a bad move to add quicksilver as they knew everyone would speculate the multiverse.
The Mephisto stuff was more fan theories, though likely assumed because of the comics (did start to do my head in by the end though. lol), I remember people slowing scenes down and claiming they could see Mephisto in mirrors. lol
Though apparently Dr Strange was supposed to show up but they cut him out as they didn't want a white guy saving the day. 🤷🤦
maybe they should have just released the whole series at once not week to week so theorists wouldn't have a chance to declare what would happen and then be self-disappointed they were wrong 🤣🤣
The thing about the repercussions is that she honestly didn't want to be around people tell she could control her powers thats why she was in isolation practicing magic
She has to learn and control her powers, otherwise thia exact scenario could happen again in the future. And she cant do that in jail, can she?? So yah
@@johans3164 thats exactly what I was thinking
Wandvision is a great show about mental health, grief and all those beautiful things. They had to conceal them behind a superhero cover, so it's only natural people felt something was missing. Like the 200 easter eggs hinting things that weren't there or made no sense and they were there just to misdirect
Monica is gonna be the next captain marvel.. and she’s gonna be in “the marvels” movie
"Omen" - Oh yeah, that moment in the Loki finale...
Detaining wanda after all that wasn't even an option 😂 she wasn't about to be locked up and experimented on again.
Everybody gangsta until wanda says goodbye to vision and the kids
Scarlett Witch is both a mutant and a witch and also an experiment. They have retconned her origen so much in the comics, at the end she's just the being called Scarlett Witch, lol.
Monica in the comics has several superhero names. Pulsar, Photon, Spectrum, Captain Marvel. She will be in Marvels, the next Captain Marvel movie
“She was a witch…good for her”-abi
7:50 "Please don't shoot"
"I'll shoot him" LMAOOO
Girls yes thank you I loved this entire show and the finale it was so much fun and a great fight scene to me and a decent wrap up for everything it set up i'm glad i'm not the only person who feels this way it feels like everyone else is so negative on the finale this is the best marvel show. The only thing i didn't like was the evan peters thing since I thought it would be a fun multiverse connection but that's just one thing out of all the other amazing things I loved. Thanks for your fun reactions
Monica will appear in The Marvels 2022 film along with Carol Danvers and Wanda's story will be continued in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
Haha, 18.30, "they're going to take her in". She's more powerful than Superman, no one's doing sh!t to her unless she allows them to. Wanda a straight up Nexus Witch Goddess.
Well as white vision displayed she has pretty low resilience, you can get around her if she can't react fast enough.
@@degummybear I think it was more that she couldn’t quite believe what was happening. Seeing real Vision back.
@@degummybear that was before she reached her Scarlet witch form though!
@@torchwoodboy5564 "But you were so crippled by self-doubt that you believed it" -Agatha. An emotional attack but an attack nonetheless.
@@Anu32148 I think Dr. Strange is very well aware of her newfound status so he's not going to outmatch her and he knows that- but I'm almost 100% he's going to try to trick her and it very well might be succeful because he knows a lot more than her. (Referencing Agatha's lack of knowledge weakness) So my point being, she's not invulnerable.
In the comics, Monica was Captain Marvel before Danvers.
I remember my friend telling me that she also said she also went by the name Photon too, but do you think with phase 4 she’s going to be taking on the name Captain Marvel since Brie Larson will not be playing her anymore?
Monica is one of my favorite characters because she's been a victim of marketing, which has given her a unique in-universe story. She was the first human Captain Marvel, gaining the power from the alien Mar-Vell. She was the leader of the Avengers for a while, but sales slumped and they brought back Captain America to revitalize sales. She gave up the name when Mar Vell's son Genisis, showed up and demanded his legacy. She took the name Photon for a while, getting another push in the Marvel's Divas run, sort of a homage to "Sex in the City". Then Genesis/Captain Marvel shows having lost the Captain Marvel title to Danvers, and says he wants the name Photon. She ends up bitter, angry, and jaded over the whole Super hero business and basically just takes a really hard swerve to Queen B&tch. She gives up on costumes, just wesring jeans and a leather jacket. gives up on Code names and just goes by Monica leading a team of superpowered misfits called Nextwave or the Agents of HATE. Best version of the character ever. Superpowered but just all out of f*cks to give.
@@Mauther reminds me of suicide squad lol.
@@redwolf9966 Brie Larson is still playing her. She is just not voicing her on the What If? animated show.
I love Wanda's Scarlet Witch costume and the details in her crown!! ❤️🧙🏻♀️
Monica in the comics was originally named Captain Marvel (before Carol Danvers). Her modern day name is Spectrum and or Photon (she also had alias' like "Lady of Light" and "Sun Goddess"). She's very, _very_ powerful and although I wanted a little more of her in the finale, I'm fine with being teased about her potential; after all, she just discovered her abilities and it'll take some getting used to. In the MCU she might go by either "Photon" or 'Spectrum", we won't know until 'The Marvels' film is released. Also, can't wait for more Wanda in Doctor Strange Multiverse film. This show-and her moments in Infinity War and Endgame-has made me really care about her character and how insanely powerful this woman is.
I'm in the same club as Okoye and Monica: we all stan Wanda.
I think some people who didn't like the finale/climax have only themselves to blame in being disappointed 🤷🏾♂️ lol, because they created these big theories about the X-Men and Dr. Strange and Mephisto and instead of keeping them as just that - theories/speculation, they convinced themselves that this was factual truth and WILL happen. So when they didn't get what they wanted they were left bummed. Instead of enjoying the show, letting the story unfold, and experiencing the journey as it was presented, they tried to force their fan-theories and change the show to how they want it to play out. As for the Evan Peters thing, it was just Marvel playing a fun joke on their audience because we all knew he was an actual Quicksilver once and they are aware that they have fans who are good at decoding easter eggs and finding clues sprinkled in their work. It was a playful trolling to keep the unpredictability fresh. I would have liked for Quicksilver to had been canon though, but these are mutants, they are a lot bigger than being thrown into a show - when the time comes, it'll be important.
2:00 correct. That's exactly what part of it is social commentary of (mixed with fantasy and super powers), and Mutants being discriminated against and the way humans treat them is about. X-Men was created during the [American] Civil Rights movement era. Professor Xavier and Magneto are loosely based* on MLK and Malcom X. The mutants can be symbolic of all those oppressed and those discriminated against for being "different". The diverse range of mutants are inclusive even today. Always have been.
_* (to clarify: not exactly based on which some claim, but loosely inspired by those figures, confirmed by Stan Lee himself; saying they are exactly based on both would imply that Malcom X is the aggressive hateful "villain" which is obviously false. So loosely inspired is more accurate)_
Thank you Imon & Abi for reacting to this great series!! 💜💜
I like the way she call her "mamá" like, "there's my mother right there"
White Vision, though still the same body is different from our Vision he is a incredible learning AI but with out the Mind Stone. He has the memories unlocked from our Vision but he is still a different personality.
You should watch Wandavision and Loki at this time stamp 27:30 . In loki you will see the timeline starts branching out at the same time Wanda gains her power! 🤯🤯🤯
Re: Agatha’s costume: other than her being a diva the in-universe reason for the wicked witch getup could be “relics” as outlined in Dr. Strange. The blouse might just have a flying spell and broach might have other nifty properties. Agree her getup doesn’t really fit in with the normal aesthetic.
It’s not supposed to resemble normal aesthetics. She’s a Salem witch.
White Vision/Ghost Vision is from the comics when Vision died. He was resurrected but had no emotions and no memory of Wanda. Well the bad guy is the head of SWORD (pretty much like SHIELD) Jimmy Woo is with the FBI and they're still the good guys in this story...Monica is the superhero Photon/Spectrum from the comics, also known as Captain Marvel. The Captain Marvel 2 movie is called "The Marvels" because it will feature Carol Danvers Captain Marvel, Monica Rambeau's Photon (Captain Marvel) and Kamila Khan (Ms. Marvel).
In the Comics, Monica is known as Photon and Spectrum.
They even made a bit of a Photon joke when Wanda fired her out of the hex, just like how an old-school television fires a photon at the tv screen to work.
She’ll be showing up in the Marvels with Captain Marvel and Miss Marvel.
“I want there to be a scarlet witch movie” Multiverse of madness - am I a joke to you ?
well it's more of a Dr. Strange movie tho Scarlet Witch is going to be a central character..they meant a Scarlet Witch movie in a Titular role were the whole focus is on her...hopefully in the future we'll have that movie.
@@Azarath_Metrion_Zinthos Well Multiverse of Madness is barely a Doctor Strange movie.
Billy and Tommy are not natural. That doesn't mean they are not real. They are supernatural. Part of what makes Wanda so powerful is that she literally warps reality. You don't expect tear jerker endings from a comic book series, but I loved this series and finale.
when somebody does a quick format to a hard disk, the previous information is still there, the quick format just allows new information to be written and then it replaces the old data, I guess Heyward and the Sword guys didnt have the time to a full format, so conditional Vision could recover White Vision's memories or at least most of them. So Vision is back, the real Vision, he probably lost some memories for good and he is going through an existencial crisis.
I'm only here to see if Imon gets tilted over not getting her X-Men multiverse connection reveal lol
Doc. Strange: *sips tea and screams*
In the comics, Monica was the first Captain Marvel(Female)
This finale was great. Loved this show the whole way through 😁
All the commercials were Dr Strange trying to gut through to Wanda. The horrifying yogurt commercial was a warning of Agatha.
The scene of Wanda saying goodbye to Vision was so damn painful but beautiful to watch. There are so many people in the world, myself included who would love to have a just one brief moment to say goodbye to the one they love one last time.
And as tragic as it is I think the ending was the best possible scenario for Wanda. She unconsciously kidnapped and tormented an entire town of innocent people, and when they all woke up she accidentally started to strangle them with her powers! Yes once she became fully aware of what she was doing she tried to release them all but she still hurt them physically and psychologically. She left more collateral damage in her wake than the Hulk did to that city in Age Of Ultron.
I don’t think she should go to prison but she can’t completely get away with what she did. So exile is the best and only option for her. But now I am super excited to see where her story goes in Spider-man No Way Home and Doctor Strange 2. Also she has chosen a far more beautiful place to exile than Obi-Wan, Yoda and Luke did for theirs.
When I saw that episode there was one classic thing that seen in that goodbye scene of vision of what I reminded me of. It reminded me of the illusion goodbyes in my favorite show and movie.
1. My favorite was Pokémon the movie 3 where the Pokémon entei free’s the girl molly who saw and thought of him as a father and he was able to defeat the out of control power and by so he disappears when he says the one thing her father when he left, keep me close in your in your dreams, and I gotta that moment touch all our hearts. But Don’t worry near the end of the movie The real father actually comes back after all the unknown went back to where they belong, to Made that’s something I would remember back in the classic days.
2. my favorite show the justice league where Green Lantern and half of the league are in this different world Where is his favorite heroes the justice guild live in but as soon discover everything was all A illusion created by a mind powerful metahuman. As Green Lantern tries to face the big brain monster as he almost tries to destroy him, The guild wants to save him but by doing so if they defeat the monster’s power they will disappear from existence, but They didn’t care for what matters to them is saving the life a real life and using what every energy from this illusion world has to defeat him. When they defeat the brain monster it was that moment They were about to disappear but they were still happy about it as their leader salutes Green Lantern knowing that as long as he safe that’s all that matters to them real or not.
Those We’re one of the closest things that reminded me of how one of my favorite cartoon adventure and superhero shows me and us and It was good to see from WandaVision How it shows us One of the best old classic show reference of being with your family and friends.
I loved it. She appears in Dr. Strange 2, they say she is the main villain and she brings the X-Men and fights one of them in nasty fight!
Fun fact: there’s been a lot of alterations to Wandas origin within the comic themselves and most recently it’s been revealed that Wanda and pietro aren’t Magnetos children.
And in the comics she did start off as a mutant with Hex abilities but it was later discovered that they were an expression of chaos magic the whole time
Which comic and what episode? I don't know that.
this dealt with the stages of grief in a unique way
I love the finale. So glad you both cried 😭 I wasn’t the only one lol. You’re 💯 right, White Vision doesn’t have the emotional connection like the original. It was in the comics. Also Monica has had 2 superhero names in the comics, one being Spectre! Which is probs who she will be in Capn Marvel sequel
Scarlet Witch will be main character in Doctor Strange 2
WandaVision is my favorite Disney+ show, really loved the whole thing. Also Scarlet's Witches Story continues in Doctor Strange 2 & Monica story continues in Captain Marvel 2/ maybe will appear in ms.marvel (Disney+ show coming this year who will also appear in the movie too)
Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness, spiderman far from home, and Loki will all tie into each other
Evan Peters is playing an actor/model named Ralph Bohner. Agatha took his home and used her magic for him to have the superpowers of Quicksilver and to act like him. In-universe, he's meant to just be someone that Wanda recognizes as her brother but isn't quite right. They cast Evan Peters so that we would also recognize him as Quicksilver, but not the "right" one.
Her being Scarlett Witch isn't new, they have a lot of stories to pull from so I think that's good. She's critical to what is going to happen moving forward. Monica is Spectrum one of the most powerful avengers she was also the first woman Capt Marvel. She will be in The Marvel's, Capt Marvel 2 and Secret Wars with Nick Fury
Wanda’s parentage in the comics was changed a while ago(back in the FOX controlled mutants in the movies days), so she’s not currently Magneto’s daughter anymore and isn’t a mutant.
They might fix that in Multiverse of madness, since Disney acquired the rights to Mutants finally. At the time, they didn't want to have two Quicksilver's and that's why they killed off Pietro. Since FOX was continuing to use theirs, so there was no confusion. Technically THIS show is Marvel's version of House of M (minus Magneto), which is a huge XMEN/Marvel comic. Lots of fans still contest, that Magneto is still their father. Because literally ALL of their major comic book moments include Magneto. They literally started off in the Brotherhood of Mutants, hell Wiccan and Speed go to Magneto in one of their major solo storylines, to find their mother. Only to find out she's with Doctor Doom.
She was in her astral form and it shows how powerful she is because she can do it while doing other things but Dr. Strange could only do it while his body laid down or was not moving. Her reading from the Darkhold is not really good because she’s unleashing so much. It’s good for us though because when she’s in Dr. Strange In The Multiverse of Madness her powers will be unreal!
And to further mess us up. Billy has his Mother's powers including telepathy. So he knew what was happening when they were saying goodbye. 😢
I love Agatha’s outfit! Very creepy and witch like to me. Not sure what they were expecting but I’m sure the comics give her something else
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When Hayward brought up her relationship with Captain Marvel, I got the feeling that Monica was not happy with Carol. Maybe because she wasn’t there when Maria was fighting cancer or just because She disappeared for all those years.
I think a lot of people that were mad were mad bc everything wasn't competely wrapped up in the finale. Which is weird since the MCU rarely ever completely wraps things up
You guys obviously missed the end credit scene to episode 8- Glad you stuck around for end credits of episode 9-- and not only that- but you kind of nailed the analysis
There are after credit scenes you may have missed in the last ep
One thing people complained about is that the finale had a big CGI fight scene like every other Marvel movie, even though the tone of this show was very different and original up until then.
You don't remember Monica? She was the little girl in Captain Marvel (set in the 90s). Carol called her lieutenant Trouble. Or are you not familiar with the superhero? You can look that up. Look up Spectrum.
White Vision was actually known as White Vision in the comics. There was a period in there where he was destroyed and rebuilt, but lost all his emotions. But yes, non-White Vision is husband goals.
They should have known that any Vision vs. Vision fight would come down to a calm discussion of philosophy. That's so him. But just taking off is so... men.
Never underestimate the power of a costume change.
"Are they going to have to take her in?" - Yeah, good luck trying.
"These ladies are nice and... they look good!" - Literally everyone watching your videos.
Monica is obviously one of the comics' Captain Marvels. Aka Spectrum aka etc (she's gone through a bunch of super names). We'll see more about her in "The Marvels" when it comes out.
"Is she astral-projecting?" "I think she is." So few reactors catch that. 'Grats!
I guess the justification for Evan Peters is that they wanted to create the same kind of confusion and excitement in the audience that Wanda was feeling. Some call it stunt casting or just trolling, but it did work in terms of us accepting that it might actually be him in some weird way, much like Wanda did, despite clearly having a lot of questions about it.
The problem is that Scarlett Witch is not a mutant anymore since the "Avengers & X-Men: Axis" crossover from 2014. There it was revealed that she was never actually Magneto´s daughter and therefore, she wasn´t a mutant either. Her powers are just magical. That´s because Wanda was about to show up in Avengers: Age of Ultron, but at that point Marvel didn´t have the rights for the X-Men and the mutants (those belonged to Fox) so they decided to sideline mutants in favor of Inhumans (even in comics) and tried to erase every trace of mutants. Which with time turned out to be a big mistake. Fans are still angry over that, but I hope at some point they will retcon it again.
Monica will return in The Marvels AKA Captain Marvel 2. Monica was Captain Marvel in the comics for over 20 years. She’s been called Capt. Marvel the longest. She will go by her other name, either “Photon” or “Spectrum.”
Ralph was just a bait and switch. it was the same in Iron Man 3 with The Manderin, to find out that Ben Kingsley plays a drunk actor named Trevor.
Monica will return in the Marvels (Captain Marvel Sequel).Wanda will return in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness as Wandavision also majorly ties into this movie
Wanda is next going to show up in Doctor Strange 2 Multiverse Of Madness next year in which she might be playing a villain who goes around from one multiverse to another in search for her children and this might be how they bring in her whole madness thing from the comics....also Monica Rambeau in the comics is one of the Captain Marvel also called Photon and the next Captain Marvel is named The Marvels in which Monica is starring alongside Carol Danvers and Kamala Khan who herself is getting her own Disney+ show Miss Marvel this year alongside Hawkeye and its going to be teamup movie with all three of them...i am so excited both all of these Marvel projects.....also keep an eye for the What If show...rumor has it that its a neat way to set up all the different multiverses that might be showing up in Doctor Strange 2
Let me tell you something: as someone who stayed as far away as possible from the internet theory-crafting expectations people had for the finale, I saw nothing wrong with it. It was a perfect finale that wrapped up everything that was introduced in the show with great emotional heart. People only disliked the finale because they expected it to introduce something crazy, like an entirely different villain, or Doctor Strange, or the multiverse, or mutants, which, overall, would have hindered the emotional delivery and completeness of the show as a whole.
many people disliked the finale because it just ended up being another boring cgi fight scene.
@@Adam-xg1ch I don't get it, I've seen people saying that over and over again but I don't get it, I guess the fight agaisnt Agatha could be better but it's just because Wanda didn't know much of her abilities yet? Vision vs White Vision was exactly what I expected. The only thing I can say it was BAD for reals was the whole thing with the director and Monica, that "fight" and the kids being shoot for no reason was ridiculous
@@Adam-xg1ch *you disliked it for that reason.
@@ricardomiles2957 It's a bs learned opinion. It wasn't even a fight, It was much more than that, and so much more important, It was a mental health- overcoming with a side of cgi magic. to say it is just another cgi fight is missing the point, imo.
@@JD-bp4hq lol learned opinion. you marvel fanboys are so hilarious i don't even know where to begin.
The kids are Wiccan and Speed, two super heroes so they'll be back in maybe a young avenger movie. As for Monica she is a super hero as well called Photon, so she'll be back in Captain marvel 2 " The Marvels" ✨
6:30 i guess you missed the end credits from previews episode lol 😂
in the comics white vision has all the memories but no emotion- you called it lol
This show is so good love the video Imon Nation and ABI Nation stay motivated Dream big 1 mill on the way
Haywood isn't the FBI he's SWORD.
White Vision is only having the memories. He still lacks emotions, because of the Mind Stone.