5 Things That Make A Movie Look Low Budget - Shane Stanley

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  • Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
  • Shane Stanley is a producer/author/instructor/screenwriter known for numerous film and television projects including Desperate Passage (1987) starring Michael Landon, The Desperate Passage Series (1988 to 1995) starring Sharon Gless, Edward James Olmos, Marlo Thomas and Louis Gossett Jr. Street Pirates (1994), Gridiron Gang (2006) starring Dwayne Johnson and Xzibit, A Sight for Sore Eyes (2004) with Academy Award nominee, Gary Busey. Shane is also the author of WHAT YOU DON’T LEARN IN FILM SCHOOL: A Complete Guide To (Independent) Filmmaking.
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  • @filmcourage
    @filmcourage  3 месяца назад

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  • @jmhimara
    @jmhimara 3 года назад +1460

    Cinematography, sound, actors, editing, location. So pretty much the whole film.

    • @airindiana
      @airindiana 3 года назад +71

      What I thought 🤣

    • @ej459
      @ej459 3 года назад +61

      Those are technical aspects that will legitimize the film and people will only mainly focus on the story

    • @seankaleb6728
      @seankaleb6728 3 года назад +18

      It's more about the importance of those pieces. The thought process behind them. And how to navigate each one with wisdom instead on instinct.

    • @MiguelCruz-oz7km
      @MiguelCruz-oz7km 3 года назад +31

      Yes-ish. What it means is you don't have to have explosions and car chases and giant robots destroying cities to appear credible as a professional movie. That it appears professionally made, irrespective of content, is what's really at the heart of when an audience member notices that a movie is "low budget". Problems with those key areas will sink your movie.
      Most movies boil down to people talking somewhere. Now if those two people are Scarlett Johansen and Chris Pratt then a lot of money was paid for those two people. But what if you could get just as good a performance with lesser known actors willing to work for a lot less money? If the audience buys the reality of those two characters -- all other technical stuff held equal -- they won't be thinking that one version of the same scene cost more than the other.
      But if the technical part is shit in either case, they won't think of the version with the A listers as being big budget. They'll think ScarJo and Chris were slumming in some no budget flick.

    • @gavinelster3168
      @gavinelster3168 3 года назад +4

      Just laughing at that

  • @aaronmassey
    @aaronmassey 3 года назад +606

    "The location" is a sneaky secret here. "take people places where they can't go, where they wish to go, or where they're afraid to go." Well said! Thanks for sharing Shane.

    • @CGIPadawan
      @CGIPadawan 3 года назад +11

      Conversation filmed at a table vs same conversation filmed at the top of the Eifel Tower. Makes sense. :)

    • @santiagoescobar9801
      @santiagoescobar9801 3 года назад +7

      That's an utter lie!!

    • @Arthagnou
      @Arthagnou 3 года назад +1

      @@santiagoescobar9801 I dont think he is saying that is the lone aspect....

    • @samaraisnt
      @samaraisnt Год назад

      honestly it's the only bit i disagreed with...most of my fav films are bottle films shot in a diner or bedroom. I've never seen a first film, esp no budget, that did crazy/varied locations. Maybe Rodriguez's but that movie is all over the place and certainly lacking in the others, especially sound, editing. Wait, acting as well. lol so a lot!

    • @melonmelonii
      @melonmelonii Год назад

      make a location that don't exist hehe

  • @unclebob9477
    @unclebob9477 3 года назад +345

    I'd put lighting and writing before locations. Locations are important, yes. But good lighting, writing, and cinematography can make a weak location seem better than it is.

    • @creativebenzin
      @creativebenzin 3 года назад +8

      I think oposit.... A amazing location, with Ok light, is better than a ok location with amazing light

    • @nativevoices8962
      @nativevoices8962 3 года назад +9

      Once again, sound is overlooked 🙄...your picture can be off, even a little, your sound matching picture should NEVER be shortchanged. I can't emphasize this enough.

    • @dagoelius
      @dagoelius 3 года назад +21

      @@creativebenzin whole heartedly disagree, lighting can turn an average location in a visual masterpiece. A great location with cheap lighting is just that.

    • @mermaidtingzzz
      @mermaidtingzzz 3 года назад +3

      Nah a basic location still looks basic w great cinematography. Especially in an era when good cinematography is easy to imitate. A charismatic location w not the best lighting or dialogue wins most ppl over every time. My example is the show "Betty".

    • @creativebenzin
      @creativebenzin 3 года назад +1

      @@dagoelius understand your point, but its impossible argue with you without FRAMES to show my point.
      But LOCATION wins ALWAYS...
      50% of the budget of my films is location hahahaha

  • @TheMillersEntertain
    @TheMillersEntertain 3 года назад +104

    Excellent casting quote, “Are you in this to showcase a whole bunch of friends or are you here to make a career…”

  • @brittanycarriger
    @brittanycarriger 3 года назад +50

    I'm glad that he didn't say spend money, he encouraged filmmakers to be more creative, and to work towards more. I really appreciate that.

  • @DodaGarcia
    @DodaGarcia 3 года назад +64

    I wish he said production design instead of location. There’s a lot that can be done on a small budget by art directing a location that would be ordinary otherwise.

    • @kittybee5528
      @kittybee5528 3 года назад +1

      I agree with this for sure!

  • @AlicanErenKuzu
    @AlicanErenKuzu 3 года назад +76

    I think the one thing that drags us to become filmmakers is also the one thing most of us never master. Its the pacing and the true moments it creates. We are so obsessed with "writing properly the way others tell us", that we drift away from the purpose of a script to something very one sided and mechanical, that doesnt work on screen or for everybody on the set. Stuff like "How a logline should be" "how the stakes should be raised" "how a problem should occur" and we dont get a very basic thing right "does this feel real?" For me what makes a movie look low budget is, whey I'm constantly aware that I'm watching a movie. When the movie cant create a true moment. Also in trailers. All the "smart" twists and "scary" plots you come up with are very much like a big explosion. An effect to catch attention but not interrest.

    • @BlazingOwnager
      @BlazingOwnager 3 года назад +4

      I have actual beefs with all of the expected beats of a script and even a three act structure. People all try to conform and it makes very.. produced.. film.

    • @samaraisnt
      @samaraisnt Год назад +1

      You said it all ! Spot on you've put your finger on it honestly I definitely feel that, most of us do! Great cinema makes us feel "truth" in a way that completely takes us out of ourselves!

    • @MisterRlGHT
      @MisterRlGHT 9 месяцев назад

      That's what they call "the editing" and it's mentioned in the video.

    • @okebaram
      @okebaram 9 месяцев назад

      Well said

  • @matthewpaul6904
    @matthewpaul6904 3 года назад +112

    Unexpected takeaway:
    Need a criminal character? Hire the real thing.

    • @AEO21Productions
      @AEO21Productions 3 года назад +7

      eyy... but don't blow your budget.. get an amateur.

    • @magvad6472
      @magvad6472 3 года назад +1

      Ask your drug dealer to be the drug dealer.

    • @wjzav1971
      @wjzav1971 3 года назад +9

      That's how Danny Trejo started his career.

    • @ronaldmayle1823
      @ronaldmayle1823 2 года назад +2

      Hire a criminal, but make sure that he doesn't "steal" a scene. LOL

  • @CERTIFIEDBABEWRANGLER
    @CERTIFIEDBABEWRANGLER 3 года назад +79

    I had no idea people even spent budget money on wrap parties. Usually the wrap party is just what ever is left over from craft services

    • @winterramos4527
      @winterramos4527 3 года назад +2

      Lenny

    • @bobmcbobson8368
      @bobmcbobson8368 3 года назад +1

      It’s a new thing. Millennial gonna do the dumb, self indulgent thing a millennial gonna do. ….. then make excuses why they fail

    • @TheMisterGuy
      @TheMisterGuy 2 года назад +1

      @@bobmcbobson8368 "Millennial gonna do the dumb, self indulgent thing a millennial gonna do. ….. then make excuses why they fail"
      You don't know what you're talking about. First thing, do you know how old Millennials are? 24 to 40. That's a pretty big gap between being a couple years out of college, and being middle-aged with a mortgage and children. Second thing, you're acting like tens of millions of people (just in the USA) all act the same way. The truth is you're and old, out of touch blowhard, babbling about things you don't understand and blaming a generation you mistakenly think are irresponsible kids.

    • @TheMisterGuy
      @TheMisterGuy 2 года назад +1

      @airlockengage "They see the caricature of the opulent Boomer and say "I can't do that" while they have a $2000 tattoo appointment the next week and a booze cruise booked the week after that."
      The Median age of a Millennial is 32. Millennials are everyone born between 1981 and 1996. It is ridiculous to think that that many people can be accurately described by anything as specific as what you just said.

  • @anthonyhett
    @anthonyhett 3 года назад +93

    Five good points. The importance of sound certainly gets over looked all the time. Although I think the number one thing that ruins a movies is a bad script.

    • @magvad6472
      @magvad6472 3 года назад +9

      A good script enables actors to be good. A bad script cannot be saved by any actor.

    • @ShamanSage
      @ShamanSage 3 года назад +1

      I've seen some crap stories with beautiful visuals tho

    • @fede1324ee
      @fede1324ee 2 года назад +1

      @airlockengage I think writers and directors should take acting clases. Beeing and actor helped me so much at writing realistic dialog.

    • @Goofbirdent
      @Goofbirdent 2 года назад

      @@magvad6472 Nicholas Cage agrees with this

    • @okebaram
      @okebaram 9 месяцев назад

      This video is not about what makes a good film, it is what makes a film look low budget. Now that you have your good script, what makes a film look low-budget...it's a question that is independent of the script, because it is about one aspect of creativity not all aspects of making a good movie

  • @johnwatson3948
    @johnwatson3948 3 года назад +58

    One thing I learned auditioning was never choose an actor without seeing them on screen - preferably in an earlier work. You can’t judge the all-important “screen presence” by their personal charm in the real world.

    • @jacobrobertdesio9265
      @jacobrobertdesio9265 3 года назад +9

      You’re totally right. When I’m casting I take the audition with a grain of salt. Some people are really good at auditioning only and most actors get so nervous it’s not a good tell of their skill. Looking at their past works helps a lot, even if they are in a bad film you can see if they have potential and presence.

    • @suedeasmr8255
      @suedeasmr8255 2 года назад

      @@jacobrobertdesio9265 As someone who uses asmr roleplays as an excuse to work through my acting chops. I found this comment really insightful/helpful thanks!

    • @Goofbirdent
      @Goofbirdent 2 года назад

      Or off audition tapes. I’ve seen great audition tapes for people to be a trainwreck or unprofessional on set

  • @James_Bowie
    @James_Bowie 3 года назад +97

    IMO lousy sound is without a doubt the No 1 killer of amateur films. To some extent I can put up with dodgy camera work, and not so good acting, but a $3 sound track is an instant switch off for me.
    I guess amateurs don't realize how much pro film audio is looped, and why so.

    • @MegaGamer1006
      @MegaGamer1006 3 года назад +5

      I thought the same thing watching this, I'd take so-so cinematography over shit sound any day.

    • @BluesClues2s
      @BluesClues2s 3 года назад +4

      actually a lot of pro film sound ISN'T looped, it's just recorded by world class production sound engineers who know how to capture studio-quality sound anywhere on location. And then it's edited by world class sound editors to clean up any imperfections. Looping is extremely expensive and often detrimental to the performance- and while a necessary tool, is avoided at all costs

    • @GnarledStaff
      @GnarledStaff 3 года назад +2

      Im generally not too picky about non-narrative stuff, but I really need to be able to hear the actors without losing my hearing to the background noise.

    • @basscat111
      @basscat111 3 года назад

      I got called to a set where the DPs girlfriend had been doing the sound and she got sick and couldn't make it. I didn't have time to pack up my gear, and the director said they had their own gear, so I just headed out to the location. They had a really cheap electret condenser shotgun mic on a 3 foot pole attached to a Zoom H4N with $10 headphones. It's a good thing I'm 6'2" with long arms. Even with this inferior equipment, it was obvious when the film was done who was operating the boom at each scene.

    • @BashirBillowKhalid
      @BashirBillowKhalid 3 года назад +1

      I agree, sound is soo important and you can't get cheap here. And I also think great cinematography isn't only about the equipment used but intentionality in shot choices. Why are you focusing on this rather than that. What purpose does your framing have and so on. If you can answer those questions you can go a loong way with cheap filming equipment.

  • @BonaventureHope
    @BonaventureHope 3 года назад +13

    Number 1 is quality of script, 2 is sound and then the rest….. there is some great advice in this video. Worth a listen!

    • @justins7796
      @justins7796 3 года назад

      right on

    • @luismarioguerrerosanchez4747
      @luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 3 года назад +1

      Nope, he's talking what makes a film look amateur. No matter how great of an script you have, if shoot a film with bad cinematography, bland location, terrible actors and awful sound, the film will suck.

  • @AltairZielite
    @AltairZielite 3 года назад +22

    The more I hear Shane talk the more I realize I need to research more before I take the next step... but, Shane's advice always seems so practical and real to me. Looking forward to hearing a more detailed breakdown of all 5 of those 'things'.

    • @officialshanestanley
      @officialshanestanley 3 года назад +3

      Thank you Altair. Much success to you and your endeavors. Don't rush it BUT at the same time keep moving forward and learn from each and every project. You've got this!

  • @j.f.l.bousquet1998
    @j.f.l.bousquet1998 3 года назад +64

    "Locke" is about Tom Hardy in a car talking on the phone during the whole movie. "Buried" is Ryan Gosling in a coffin during the whole movie. Alfred Hitchcock's "Rope" takes place in one single location, an apartment. So I guess "locations" are not that important if you have a good script and good actors. Kind of funnny he didn't even mention "having a solid/original script" as the most important thing before doing a movie. I can forget about technical problems if the story is interesting, but if the story is boring or the characters are badly written I don't care if it's a big budget movie, a shiny turd is still a turd.

    • @adriancittadini
      @adriancittadini 3 года назад +5

      He is talking about the "Low Budget Look" wich is a visual (or actually aesthetic ) aspect. Those Locations you mention, simplistic as they are, are perfect for the story they need to tell. It's not about "the most important thing to make a GOOD movie", the topic here is "Look". Wether that's important to you or not.

    • @dope8878
      @dope8878 3 года назад +6

      The location of those movies are integral to their plots. The production design and cinematography of those locations is great. I don’t understand what’s hard to get

    • @Lilhermano
      @Lilhermano 3 года назад +1

      ur lying if you say a movie with bad visuals or audio doesn't ruin the experience completely

    • @thedrytableisreal
      @thedrytableisreal 3 года назад +3

      Isn't Buried a Ryan Reynolds movie? Pretty sure it's not Ryan Gosling who starred in it.

    • @BounceIO
      @BounceIO 3 года назад +2

      I don't think he was talking about making movies in general just "5 Things That Make A Film Look Low Budget". Like of course, the script is important. Also the locations you mentioned are awesome and unique locations which were very carefully chosen.

  • @BrianMakesFilms
    @BrianMakesFilms 3 года назад +30

    Acting is 100% one of the biggest that helped some of my films in film school rise to the top. And at that point I was just posting on Craigslist my synopsis. My first film there I got a very classically trained actress for one role, and a completely untrained, but very committed girl who just was like the character she was playing for the other role, and it was brilliant. Then I got connected with the classically trained actress's film school for the next film I did and it was amazing. I pulled a few friends and less trained actors for tiny roles, but all four main roles and some small roles had legitimate actors and it was amazing.
    I also got very lucky with my main locations to find some really perfect gritty spots. This is super solid advice.
    I saw a lot of fellow classmates do the more standard - everyone is in each other's films and shooting at each other's houses or in the school, and their films weren't as good. Knocking on all the doors till you find the right people to bring the vision to life is everything.
    Certainly there were massive flaws in my films that make me cringe now, but for where I was in my filmmaking journey, I saw them escalate massively by finding the right actors, locations, props, and cinematography style.

  • @bradballew3037
    @bradballew3037 3 года назад +7

    If we're specifically talking about the technical side of things, sound is the number one thing that will make a film look low budget. I think there is far more flexibility in how a film looks than how it sounds. There have been some great films that used nothing but available lighting and simple camera work but have terrific audio. I think it was Gareth Edwards who said that an audience can forgive a bad picture but they can't forgive bad sound. He's absolutely right.

    • @johnmellor932
      @johnmellor932 2 года назад

      Bad sound is the top number one issue with most indie films - shorts especially. It's been repeated time and again but novice film makers simply won't listen. I call it CGI syndrome. Because we can do almost anything with video, film makers think Sound is the same way because we have RX, we are still decades behind visuals in terms of pulling of magic with fixing sound.

  • @ponrix
    @ponrix 3 года назад +6

    Dang we need more Shane. Hes the blunt truth that people need to meet.

  • @kentjensen4504
    @kentjensen4504 3 года назад +74

    This guy is solid.

    • @officialshanestanley
      @officialshanestanley 3 года назад +10

      Thank you, Kent. You're in the will :) Best to you and your endeavors my man!

    • @kentjensen4504
      @kentjensen4504 3 года назад +3

      @@officialshanestanley Oh wow. How old are you again? Feeling alright? :D Thanks, buddy, and I look forward to reading your book.

    • @Inflamedweasel
      @Inflamedweasel 3 года назад +2

      Totally.

    • @officialshanestanley
      @officialshanestanley 3 года назад +4

      @@kentjensen4504 I'll be 50 in June, and yes never better! :) Thank you for the kindness and support. I hope you enjoy the read as much as I did the write.

    • @leehamptonfilms3700
      @leehamptonfilms3700 3 года назад +2

      Great video. Nice to hear it how it is. Such a hard craft to get into. Been doing it for 10 years and I love it

  • @87rtlandry
    @87rtlandry 3 года назад +19

    I think, a counter to finding good locations is to take a boring location, and make it interesting using a combination of cinematography and art department.
    Think of the early Jean Luc Godard films.

  • @JackieChandler69
    @JackieChandler69 3 года назад +8

    So basically, if you want to avoid making your film look low budget, don't have a low budget. Brilliant advice.

  • @RLScottWonderStudios
    @RLScottWonderStudios 3 года назад +96

    Also lighting ☺️

    • @officialshanestanley
      @officialshanestanley 3 года назад +36

      Handled in Cinematography (the 1st thing mentioned). :)

    • @atom_gray
      @atom_gray 3 года назад +11

      included in cinematography by default...

    • @BrandonAEnglish
      @BrandonAEnglish 3 года назад

      Yeah, but as others mentioned, I feel that good cinematographers would catch that.

    • @joechristie3578
      @joechristie3578 3 года назад +3

      that’s part of the cinematography

    • @AssClapCowboy
      @AssClapCowboy 3 года назад

      part of cinematography numb nuts

  • @user-jw4fn6fh2x
    @user-jw4fn6fh2x 3 года назад +22

    So basically everything in film making is important to get right.

    • @Mike.Palmer
      @Mike.Palmer 3 года назад +7

      Except wrap parties*

    • @magvad6472
      @magvad6472 3 года назад +3

      Yeah, the dude picked literally every bracket element of making a film...and the only thing not important to making a film are things that don't make the film...like sorry, you have to be more specific given the prompt. It's nice that he elaborated but it felt like a cop-out and seemingly ignored the question.
      Like, imo, it's always bad framing/lighting and audio...the rest slowly starts to creep in but I immediately shut my brain off when I hear shit audio and the framing is bland and unintentional.

    • @SomeHarbourBastard
      @SomeHarbourBastard 3 года назад

      He didn’t mention the script

    • @dusthat
      @dusthat 3 года назад +1

      Yeap - think of a symphony orchestra. There are no small parts that can overlooked. Everyone has to be in tune and practiced.

  • @grizzly228
    @grizzly228 3 года назад +40

    I can forgive a lot but bad sound pulls me out of the movie more than bad acting.

    • @jv8studios
      @jv8studios 3 года назад

      yeah true, sound is key! any equipment you can recommend to pick up good sound im on a budget about of about £150

    • @HollywoodConnection-JAST
      @HollywoodConnection-JAST 3 года назад

      @@jv8studios Sanken COS 11 D omni mics,- AKA hide-a-mic, that mounts flush underneath clothing. Not cheap, about $400 per mic, but great for actors wearing wireless UHF body packs and they sound very clean and not compressed. I own a couple of them in my fleet.

    • @scottslotterbeck3796
      @scottslotterbeck3796 3 года назад

      As a sound guy, hire a sound guy. He/she has $10,000 in gear, and you get him/her for a few hundred a day.

    • @scottslotterbeck3796
      @scottslotterbeck3796 3 года назад

      @@jv8studios hire a sound guy.

    • @scottslotterbeck3796
      @scottslotterbeck3796 3 года назад

      @@HollywoodConnection-JAST hire a sound guy for less.

  • @missgangsmashers737
    @missgangsmashers737 3 года назад +19

    Great video! "All Eyez On Me" was so low budget! They did exactly what Shane said. They spent more on the wrap party than the film itself. Movie was horrid!

  • @starbrand3726
    @starbrand3726 3 года назад +29

    Sofia Coppola ruined Godfather 3, Jaden Smith ruined After Earth. "Stop hiring family members as actors." Best advice ever given.

    • @mannya.h.967
      @mannya.h.967 3 года назад +6

      Godfather 3 was a mess for a LOT more reasons than just Sofia Coppola, not to mention she was a kid and has grown into a very capable and talented director.

    • @planetdisco4821
      @planetdisco4821 3 года назад +4

      Not to mention sacking Robert Duvall because he wanted a pay rise! I mean he was by that stage an academy award winner…

    • @starbrand3726
      @starbrand3726 3 года назад +2

      @@planetdisco4821 Yet another dumb Hollywood decision.

    • @HeavyMetalSonicRM
      @HeavyMetalSonicRM 3 года назад +1

      Sage Stallone in Rocky V.
      But the film still would have sucked either way.

    • @user-sh3wi7mv2d
      @user-sh3wi7mv2d 2 месяца назад

      the attitude of Michael Corleone was even worse

  • @MurderMostFowl
    @MurderMostFowl 3 года назад +3

    I think audio can have a tremendous negative effect. You know it’s good enough when no one notices anything about it.

  • @robotjoxx3166
    @robotjoxx3166 3 года назад +7

    More important than any of these things is the script. A lot of modern “independent” films have much much much better sound, editing, cinematography, setting, and lighting, but the scripts are worse than ever. No good structure, not interesting, and can’t be bothered with revisions.
    I’m so angry when I come across a film where they worried 15 times more about the lighting than whether or not the story was compelling. Editing does go a long way in helping this, but it’s obvious filmmakers rely way too heavily on editing to save them.

    • @cel4403
      @cel4403 3 года назад

      Story is first. People forget a movie is still a Story. Without the Story you have nothing.

  • @ryanjacobson2508
    @ryanjacobson2508 3 года назад +2

    Usually a director puts his personality into a movie very heavily. The director is responsible for tone and the type of acting in the film. Often times how much you enjoy a movie seems to really depend on whether you like the director's style or note.

  • @LiteShaper1
    @LiteShaper1 3 года назад +3

    If you don’t want your film to look low budget write something worth doing. The number one thing that drives and defines all other aspects is the script. The story is king. Write a good script. Then write a good breakdown of that script and solve as many problems you can while they are on the page before you get to any set.
    Successful low budget filmmaking in a way requires more skill - because you lack resources so it must be executed with greater efficiency. Write a good script. Make an efficient plan for executing that script. The plan includes surrounding yourself with the best people feasible in key positions. If you have a good script you can attract good people. Cinematography, Sound, Art Direction, Locations, Casting - all are important and all should spring from the script. Did I mention write a good script?

    • @ronaldmayle1823
      @ronaldmayle1823 2 года назад

      If people could write good scripts, then they wouldn't need to make Indies. They would be courted by Hollywood.

    • @LiteShaper1
      @LiteShaper1 2 года назад

      @@ronaldmayle1823 The road to being “courted by Hollywood” is extremely convoluted and varied and not always determined by quality. Hollywood essentially makes only Super Hero movies now. I guarantee that there are many great scripts out there that have never seen the light of day - because they are ignored by Hollywood. Indie filmmakers need to find great original scripts first and foremost.

    • @ronaldmayle1823
      @ronaldmayle1823 2 года назад

      @@LiteShaper1 True, now that you mention it, I have seen a lot of garbage coming out of Hollywood.

  • @Jestunes
    @Jestunes 3 года назад +9

    Loving the 5 points. I feel like I got an enormous education in a few moments.
    Thanks for sharing...

    • @filmcourage
      @filmcourage  3 года назад

      Thanks Jesse, glad you found this one helpful.

  • @ferrarriohh
    @ferrarriohh 3 года назад +4

    I remember my friend in college used to draft me into all his oddball film projects because he liked that I could remember all the lines, improve some stupidity, and generally be animated on command. Guess 4 yrs of high school theater helped

  • @suej3959
    @suej3959 3 года назад +6

    I was invited to a low budget film premier a few years ago and a lot of money had been spent on plying about 200 people, myself included, with wine and canapés in a swanky location. The film was dire, really bad, but we all congratulated the film makers and actors and reserved our criticisms for the journey home. So I agree with this guy - put the money into more important things and definitely don’t cast the girl you fancy, who can’t act, in the lead role, as this director did.

  • @MenaCourtadeProductions
    @MenaCourtadeProductions 3 года назад +25

    There's a lot of ego driven assholes on set but also some great people that work hard and are dedicated. 🙏🏽🎬

  • @Creative_Expression
    @Creative_Expression 3 года назад +5

    Loved everything he said, EXCEPT: this is the first time I've heard someone in the business say social "behind the scenes" isn't going to help sell your movie. I wish he'd said more, because it's both counter intuitive and opposite from common wisdom.

  • @Rod-dg7fy
    @Rod-dg7fy 3 года назад +6

    Thank you for the insight Shane. Humble, real, professional. All the best for 2021!

  • @notactuallywill3620
    @notactuallywill3620 3 года назад +52

    "Come up with three ways to do something, and come up with the fourth."
    Would this apply to writing, too?

    • @filmcourage
      @filmcourage  3 года назад +8

      Absolutely, check out 3:44 of this video m.ruclips.net/video/A2BhItk6Fo0/видео.html

    • @officialshanestanley
      @officialshanestanley 3 года назад +7

      Absolutely. I think more in writing than anything. Good luck!

    • @notactuallywill3620
      @notactuallywill3620 3 года назад +2

      @@officialshanestanley thank you!

    • @officialshanestanley
      @officialshanestanley 3 года назад +1

      @@notactuallywill3620 So welcome, Gabi (not) Gabi

    • @notactuallywill3620
      @notactuallywill3620 3 года назад +1

      @@officialshanestanley Hahaha

  • @JasonR007
    @JasonR007 3 года назад +10

    *Shane is ALWAYS so Golden!*

    • @officialshanestanley
      @officialshanestanley 3 года назад +2

      Please, tell my father. I'm on his sh^t list - LOL. Thank you JR. Appreciate the kindness. Have a great one!

  • @aliensoup2420
    @aliensoup2420 3 года назад +3

    One way to learn how to make good movies is to watch a lot of bad movies. It's much easier to identify what is wrong with a movie than what is right.

  • @chrisw6164
    @chrisw6164 3 года назад +1

    I never realized how locations matter until he said that it’s “a place you want to go” as opposed to a place you already are or a “normal” setting. Tv shows are famous for their unrealistic sets (particularly home-based sets) but it’s a fantasy and it does not detract from the best shows; it adds to them. Frazier’s apartment, Jerry’s apartment, the Friends apartments, the Brady house, etc. The fans of those shows don’t mind that those sets make no sense. It’s a fantasy world that mimics the “real” world.

  • @dragons_red
    @dragons_red 3 года назад +1

    There is no magic bullet here. It depends on what kind of film you are making and the needs of it. Creativity of being on a budget can make you produce wonderful things you didn't know were possible.
    The only thing for sure is if you aren't born with the gift of "the vision", then you need plenty of practice/experience and study of great films.

  • @DomBurgess
    @DomBurgess 3 года назад +18

    Ha ha... So, the things that will make your movie look budget are...drumroll... all the things that make a movie.

    • @mistermastermind528
      @mistermastermind528 3 года назад

      Yep. It goes to show how much of a system a film production is. It falters if one component of the system won't work well.
      People always talk about what's the most important role in making a film but ultimately, it's about what should be the priority during what phase you are in the production process.

  • @jonathanmartin-ives8665
    @jonathanmartin-ives8665 3 года назад +6

    Luckily my wife was the ultimate choice to bring my audiobook to life. That being said, I totally get your point about hiring Uncle Bob to star in your 🎥 film.

  • @FCPWHAT
    @FCPWHAT 3 года назад +24

    2:33 “Places that they can’t go” - right now in this new world (COVID) order, that’s: EVERYWHERE!

  • @retrohollywoodmotionpictures
    @retrohollywoodmotionpictures 11 месяцев назад

    As a film maker all I can say is I agree 100% with everything Mr. Stanley says here.Budding filmmakers take note, lots of wisdom here.

  • @Jamminn555
    @Jamminn555 2 года назад +2

    Love this from Karen and Shane. All manner of incredible filmmaking insights. Not the easy answers, the RIGHT ones. Practical and brilliant from Film Courage, as usual.

  • @Zakdayak
    @Zakdayak 3 года назад +2

    You can shoot any movie anywhere & it can still look cheap. It's really all about the cinematography.

  • @planetdisco4821
    @planetdisco4821 3 года назад +1

    About a year ago I got home from a long day at work to find my whole street blocked off by catering vans and a film crew doing a shoot at the pub in the corner. As I stood there watching them film a scene a girl who I thought was just walking home from the tram stop passed in front of the cameras. “I think you just ruined their shot” I casually remarked. “Do ya reckon?” She snarled at me and walked off in a huff. It was at that moment I realised she was an extra for the film lol.

  • @ComicPower
    @ComicPower 3 года назад +2

    Great talk. I could listen to him all day.

    • @filmcourage
      @filmcourage  3 года назад +2

      Cheers Comic Power! Here is everything we have published with Shane thus far - bit.ly/3qJiA0s

  • @zonastarwars4397
    @zonastarwars4397 3 года назад +10

    1) having a low budget

  • @James_Bowie
    @James_Bowie 3 года назад +14

    As for wrap parties, get sponsors to pay for them.

  • @sergioveram
    @sergioveram 3 года назад +2

    It has to be sound mixing. A good sound desing and mix, makes the whole difference.

  • @daniellatteo_thefilmmaker
    @daniellatteo_thefilmmaker 3 года назад +2

    6:00 That point he raised about using friends, lovers, family members & whomever you're chummy with in your films, really resonates with a lot of fillmakers in their beginning. Unfortunately, he is absolutely right about it! It is not the right and "professional" way to go. Personally, I have done it and I would do it again, but only if they do small cameos or secondary roles- and also, there's got to be a power and a presence to that face, so if I can't make them talk, at least I always have that.

  • @mikal
    @mikal 3 года назад +6

    "Afraid your girlfriend will leave you if you don't put her in the film" - What if you're afraid to give her a role because of the possibility of her leaving you in the middle of production, forcing a recast and having to start over?
    🤡

  • @johnmellor932
    @johnmellor932 2 года назад +1

    I once did a short film providing my sound editing and Foley and mix skills for free. There was no budget for post but I needed credits. I found out they hired the largest LED bill board in Europe for the films poster (not at all how you market a short any way) and hired an expensive theatre in the city, pro photographer, red carpet, repeater banners and bottles of Champaign. But....they couldn't afford to pay me for my services. Thankfully, I've learned since.

  • @basscat111
    @basscat111 3 года назад +1

    My rather limited experience is that filmmakers prioritize the five:
    1. Actors
    2. Cinematography
    3. Editing
    4. Locations
    5. Sound

  • @bookofkatherine
    @bookofkatherine 3 года назад

    "Friends and lovers"- classic. Too true!

  • @kittycat6195
    @kittycat6195 3 года назад +3

    I am not into making film, but I really like to watch these videos. So interesting.😊

  • @rankedpush2227
    @rankedpush2227 2 года назад +1

    nowadays with high performance film cameras being so affordable and with help of drones you can get such amazing shots by strapping cameras to them, im really surprised there isn't more independent low budged movies that make it big.

  • @jesseyules
    @jesseyules 3 года назад +3

    Oh the other hand, if you're basing a character around someone you know, and are hoping a film school actor can do an impression of that person, that usually doesn't work either. :)

  • @perryserre7818
    @perryserre7818 2 года назад

    Somewhat surprised at the negative comments by viewers. The man is sharing what he knows. I am pretty sure he knows “story is king”.
    As for the great nuggets of knowledge and Easter eggs shared, take from what you will. This is real world experience shared, so thanks!

  • @FixFilmsLtd
    @FixFilmsLtd 3 года назад +1

    Great advice here - will definitely consider these when I make my next short films.

  • @StacyPowerhouse
    @StacyPowerhouse Год назад

    Wrap party and wrap party gifts seem sooo fun. I’ve seen so many of them posted on social media.

    • @NicoleSeelig
      @NicoleSeelig 2 дня назад

      Quite possibly the least important thing for a production, if money is tight. If you're truly interested in creating a film that looks pricier than it actually is, then all resources should go into the production and post production, which is just as important, because that's where the whole thing comes together. Your party trinkets may cheer you up temporarily. Being part of an awesome project will cheer you up, and maybe even further your career, long term.

  • @dustinsteckler7442
    @dustinsteckler7442 3 года назад +2

    Rob Zombie ruins his movies with his wife almost every time.

  • @yewtoob2007
    @yewtoob2007 3 года назад +8

    "Film is 60% sound." -heard this once, agree

    • @dirkbogarde44
      @dirkbogarde44 3 года назад

      Personally, i think that's BS. Script is always king....next to good actors.

    • @seanwebb605
      @seanwebb605 3 года назад +1

      Charlie Chaplin.

    • @yewtoob2007
      @yewtoob2007 3 года назад +1

      @@seanwebb605 I am, in fact, aware of silent movies. I thought it was clear I wasn't referring to them but I was wrong and I apologize. I should have said that "There's a rule of thumb that in movies with sound, '60% of the movie is sound.;"

    • @seanwebb605
      @seanwebb605 3 года назад +2

      @@yewtoob2007 It's worth mentioning that as much as people praise the old silent movies there haven't been many people crazy enough to try to produce a retro style silent movie.

  • @youknowihaduwuittoem
    @youknowihaduwuittoem 3 года назад

    Sooo... basically every single aspect of the film. Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. If I ever make a film and want it not to look low-budget, I'll make sure it doesn't look low budget.

  • @richhatwell1236
    @richhatwell1236 3 года назад +1

    Didn't mention production design/art department/make-up. You can have the best camera in the world, lighting etc, but if there is nothing there to shoot,it'll stick out, and worse when the resolution is high.

  • @thebasementfilmgroup
    @thebasementfilmgroup 3 года назад +4

    As a sound designer I wish more movie makers would take note of this aspect - and there is a reason they don't..... because they don't notice it.
    If the sound is good you will never spot it - do it bad - and EVERYBODY notices it!!

  • @StevenTallas
    @StevenTallas 2 года назад

    Story is king and sound is Queen.

  • @musikSkool
    @musikSkool Год назад

    The best advice I have is to listen to the director when he says to do it again. He is your first quality control and so many times I see in even big budget movies when they have a scene with boring acting, 9 times out of 10 it is because the director didn't speak up because he didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings. It's still possible to get good acting from people and not ruin their feelings, but it does take much longer to shoot the video. I would not skimp on the time you have budgeted to shoot scenes so that every acting scene can be perfect. The first thing that makes us lose immersion in the fictional universe of the movie is when an actor gives a line that sounds like they are reading it from a cue card. If that person were actually in that situation what words would pop into their head to say, and what would their timing be with that reaction to what just happened. If you need a good example, go watch a grade school play with preteens. That is an example of what not to do. It is so random and inconsistent that when someone actually delivers their line with good timing and energy you will miss it because everyone else is reacting at all the wrong times. Cut. Do it again. You might be able to fix timing in post, but you can't make the line believable unless it was perfect when it was recorded.

  • @XavierKatzone
    @XavierKatzone 3 года назад

    Amen. Don't forget the "simple" -- FOCUS & COLOR BALANCE! And storyline -- if you have an eight-minute or thirty-eight-minute idea, don't try to pad it out into a 90-minute feature

  • @travisbaker8393
    @travisbaker8393 3 года назад +5

    Hearing him talk about locations right now is funny because my class's short film projects are restricted to our houses because of our school's COVID insurance policy. LOL

    • @mistermastermind528
      @mistermastermind528 3 года назад

      Same here. Had to use my room for my from project for a sound design workshop just this July.

  • @filmcourage
    @filmcourage  3 года назад +2

    What's the sixth thing that makes a film look low-budget?

    • @kentjensen4504
      @kentjensen4504 3 года назад +5

      Some might say it goes under location, but I say art design. Putting in some effort towards making the set or location interesting and believable can make as great a difference as good cinematography.

    • @atom_gray
      @atom_gray 3 года назад +1

      the art department doesn't have a quitting time... hire the most enthusiastic people in line, not necessarily the most experienced.

    • @TheJuzi
      @TheJuzi 3 года назад +2

      story is too small? bad writing?

    • @hawksoob
      @hawksoob 3 года назад +1

      @@kentjensen4504 I've seen tons of shorts shot in someone's apartment where no attention is paid to the set decoration - plain white apartment walls, sparse furnishings, etc. If that's the location you need, spend a little money on some plants, hang some cheap thrift store pictures on the wall, etc.
      One interesting tip I heard on a podcast a little while ago was to furnish your location with a rental company - Rent-A-Center, Aaron's, etc. You can furnish a whole living room for a few hundred bucks for a week, including delivery and pickup.

    • @kentjensen4504
      @kentjensen4504 3 года назад

      @@hawksoob That's an amazing tip. I will find out if we have that kind of rental companies here in Norway. Cheers.

  • @devinredeye1192
    @devinredeye1192 2 года назад

    The great Martin Scorsese says to use your family and friends, especially if you're making independent films. So keep that in mind. But also be competent and cognizant. If you truly love film, you can't help but make a good movie(Quentin Tarantino).

  • @zwheels654
    @zwheels654 2 года назад

    Go to your community theatre shows, watch closely, keep your playbills and make notes. I've found actors by doing this and I have some of the best actors in the area for my film. You have to teach them the difference between film and stage acting but if you know how to communicate that it's a gold mine for talent.

  • @SammiSweetz
    @SammiSweetz Год назад

    Greaaaat blunt advice!!! Love it and thank you

  • @TheSAINTWARRIOR
    @TheSAINTWARRIOR 2 года назад

    This info are just great. GREAT!! You gotta love Shane Stanley. Every time he gives away gems of advice.✨💖

  • @teachgold
    @teachgold 3 года назад +13

    This vid should be required in film school. Physical film and developing kept independents few. Now with vid everyone thinks they are MGM. Trade outs like a fancy car if the dealers gf gets a walk-on, are smart. Trade outs are essential. The one thing I can't stand is lousy sound and worse, to have the sound track so strong dialogue is lost.

    • @officialshanestanley
      @officialshanestanley 3 года назад +2

      Thank you. You can read that and 10 chapters covering everything from 'concept to deliver' here: whatyoudontlearninfilmschool.com

    • @nerychristian
      @nerychristian 3 года назад +1

      Don't watch Tenet. Worst sound ever.

  • @lostchild
    @lostchild 2 года назад +1

    I like how the 5 things are listed in the first 10-15 seconds

  • @Theomite
    @Theomite 3 года назад +3

    I can accept his stance on wrap parties, but I would emphasize the importance of good catering. I've seen firsthand how quality food can kill a mutiny on a low-budget film. If I ever get back in the game, I'll never skimp on the food.
    But I think he's making too light a situation on moonlighting professionals. Sure they exist, but finding out who will do it is rather difficult given how careful people have to be of the unions and other people finding out. It could affect their employment and rates down the line. It's known, for instance, that top-shelf industry people do (or used to until the mid-'10s) the stunt, firearm, and costuming work for big-budget porn movies that parody superhero movies on the side, but damned if their names ever get out. Kimberly Kane's Wonder Woman suit was built by somebody who actually did work on the Marvel movies (the materials the suit was made out of give that away) but nobody says who it is.
    "The best way to solve a problem is by not having a problem" is the mantra I've always needed to hear and I will use that for the rest of my life.

    • @DavidLLambertmobile
      @DavidLLambertmobile 3 года назад +1

      Proper plans prevent poor performance. - Cdr Richard Marcinko US Navy ret, ⚓. I agree on having good craft services, avoid snow, cold weather, avoid complex stunts, FX etc. Do not treat the cast, crew like dirt. Make sure HR, payroll, schedules work smooth. Do not screw people or not pay vendors, crew, actors. 💲.

  • @aminesadly777
    @aminesadly777 3 года назад +2

    I love these Kind of videos! I love the channel🙏🏻The Question And titles are also amazing !!!! Thankyouu for helping us young dreamers! Stanley Is Very Underated on social media ! People just go with the noise idk why

    • @officialshanestanley
      @officialshanestanley 3 года назад +2

      Shhhhh.... I prefer it that way :) Thanks Fitt. All the best.

    • @aminesadly777
      @aminesadly777 3 года назад +1

      @@officialshanestanley 🤫😆! Thankyou Big Sir!!'

  • @TuanRyuJin
    @TuanRyuJin 3 года назад

    Wow very helpful advice and tips! Thanks for sharing this inspiring experience. Learned a lot here!

  • @jv8studios
    @jv8studios 3 года назад +1

    Writing a documentary, this advice will come in handy

  • @davidmansfield9167
    @davidmansfield9167 3 года назад +2

    Here's how he's wrong.
    If you can't write or find a compelling story that can be told in your kitchen, living room or car, you shouldn't be making films.
    You have to be able to make something from nothing.
    If you can't do that, nobody can help you.

  • @toenaleproductions9692
    @toenaleproductions9692 Год назад

    Agree to an extent, but also disagree to more extend. Some people take pride in what they’re able to accomplish with little to no budget. If you can use crap to make something worthy of note, then you know you’re good. Get the money and resources, then forget about limits.

  • @gregorylagrange
    @gregorylagrange 3 года назад +1

    The cliqueish nature of the entertainment business makes people afraid to, but I would like to see people give examples to illustrate their points when they talk about stuff like where a better cinematographer would have been beneficial.

  • @AllanRochez
    @AllanRochez 2 года назад

    great advice, man, what a great video - as usual ;) Keep it up Film Courage!

  • @TheCelestialFox
    @TheCelestialFox Год назад

    These descriptions for low quality movies sound like the definition of Netflix.

  • @SamBorowskiFILMMAKER
    @SamBorowskiFILMMAKER 3 года назад

    Filmmakers Pay Attention! THIS just might be THE BEST FILM COURAGE VIDEO EVER! And, it may seem like common sense, but you'd be surprised how many people avoid common sense in our industry. Just look at all of the not-so-great indie films in the indie film graveyard. Most of them are shot terribly on a cheap low-rent camera with poor sound quality. What Shane said about actors is TRUTH! While I primarily direct and produce features, I still work on shorts, as well. I have produced a good amount of shorts for young directors and gotten them recognisable faces and major character actors - and even helped them license music - and still they seem to want to put their significant others in the short, treating it like weekend fun. Now, if your significant other TRULY IS A TALENTED ACTOR, OK. But, if they work in Corporate America and are not thespians, then, NO, don't give them a role. In addition to being a writer, director and producer, I have my own acting school in addition to my own production company. And, what he said is SO TRUE - REALLY IS! There are so many talented actors out there in classes, workshops and schools - some of whom work in episodic and independent films regularly - that would LOVE to be a part of your project. This really is a useful video - very much so. I hope many independent filmmakers truly hear the message and take advantage of it.

  • @ivorypoacherplays
    @ivorypoacherplays 3 года назад +1

    This is such good advice

  • @skeletonshorror5184
    @skeletonshorror5184 3 года назад

    I really love these, thank you so much!

  • @Met9171
    @Met9171 Год назад

    True, that's why amateur productions in SA sucks because they don't want to pay/offer good actors who received tertiary qualification in acting opportunity.They take details for granted.

  • @claudiasolomon1123
    @claudiasolomon1123 3 года назад

    When you brought up people casting their significant others in their film I immediately thought of band members who are in a relationship that story often doesn't end well.

  • @GeoZero
    @GeoZero 3 года назад +1

    Cast that don't take it seriously, and crew that tries to sabotage the film.

    • @DavidLLambertmobile
      @DavidLLambertmobile 3 года назад

      I've seen that first hand. 🎬. Avoid producers or below the line crew, set who are mercenaries, only concerned with themselves. Film or tv, media needs mature adults, professionals.

  • @ericgriffin120
    @ericgriffin120 3 года назад +2

    Too much time on the girlfriend thing especially when the interviewing Director uses his girlfriend "in every movie he has created". Not a lot of credibility there.

  • @GregoryPLoomis
    @GregoryPLoomis 3 года назад +1

    I wonder if they rented out a bowling alley after wrapping up The Big Lebowski

  • @garretteverett2613
    @garretteverett2613 3 года назад

    Something that always, always stands out to me is the costuming, in particular how lived-in it looks - and oddly, the bigger the budget, the shittier everyone's clothes look. Cheap-looking films either rented costumes that they were afraid to damage, or were too lazy or cheap to invest in distressing the goods. If your film looks like a stage play or sitcom there's no way I'm ever going to buy into the world.

  • @Darrylizer1
    @Darrylizer1 3 года назад +1

    People try to make fantasy films with no budget and it doesn’t work. Make a simple drama or street film. Don’t have money for dragons? Make Mean Streets instead

  • @jon4715
    @jon4715 3 года назад

    He makes a great point about being afraid of asking real talent to work with you.