The Police Won't Save Us.
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1- Intro/Statement of Purpose 00:00
2- How/why we give police power 09:00
3- Why the police need to go 33:00
4- Why prisons need to go 50:48
5- The hidden agenda of prisons 01:20:40
Edited by @NeedlessNick
Scored and touched up by @RealSpacial
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Mass incarceration causes poverty - papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.c...
Police don't have to protect you - www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/la...
History of policing in America/Lexow Commission - www.sagepub.com/sites/default...
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Black prison population dropping vs white population - www.pewresearch.org/short-rea...
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Please don't call police pigs
Pigs are smart and respectful creatures
@@exaggeratedblk3439 doing their jobs?
@@meryllejoyercilla5387man’s made a wrong turn or something 😭
@@exaggeratedblk3439 Like the 40% self reporting to being domestic abusers?
@@exaggeratedblk3439because their job is evil. That's literally the entire point
@@exaggeratedblk3439 So, we’re going off what is *just* reported? How delightful and honest, I definitely feel these results are.
Jail turned my little brother into a monster. He was a kid that had anger issues... now he's a grown man who is afraid of the world with anger issues who only lashes out. You took a kid who needed therapy and maybe meds and put him in with killers and made a monster and this CANNOT only be my experience.
I'm so sorry.
i am sorry they damaged your family irrevocably. i pray that they will be made to answer, in the next world if not in this one.
Sound like your parents neglected to get him the proper help he needed before it was too late.
Yes incarceration can cause PTSD when the institution is fundamentally corrupt and violent and unjust that will force out that inner 🦍 if the place was extra with its torturous experience
@samspade8830 Its not exactly something you would "catch".
I've tattooed cops for 23 years, and man, the shit they've told me in the chair, because they thought we were buddies, is enough to turn your hair white. NYC cops ordered custom Christmas ornaments in the shape of toilet plungers in the wake of the Abner Louima attack. Paterson cops laughed about killing the homeless for fun. And all the small town cops in North Jersey cheered their high school friends when they stormed the Capital on January 6th, and hold them up as heroes Even the ones who went to jail for punching other cops in the face on the steps of the Capital, they LOVE those guys. I've been clean since 1990 and am a tax paying, law abiding business owner, and I'm still being as policed and profiled as I was when before I cleaned up. Seriously, ACAB.
I’ll admit, I put a little too much faith in the one in a million officer that is trying to do good things and actually trying to help people. Those couple people need our help somehow.
I charge cops double if they want me to work for them.
@@cunning-stuntpraxis 😂
Statistically ACAB is a false statement. There will always be cops that are not bastards even if the majority of the cops that you have encountered are.
@@ronnybarelathe one in a million "good cop" is either covering for the bad ones or being terrorized by them. I watched cops hang out while their buddies commit violence and sick jokes against homeless people.. 6:00
I grew up with an abusive cop for a parent. Anyone who says it's just bad apples have never seen, from the inside, the absurd levels of incompetence, laziness, and bigotry present at every level of a department. I have like a dozen different vivid memories of horrid bullshit that went on that my dad brought home that were very nearly on CNN. And that doesn't even factor in my dad in specific, who hopefully will rot in hell.
Well you know, it’s not the cop’s fault it’s systemic. You should fight against the system of abuse directed at the people who became cops and directed at cops.
Does this rethoric sound familiar?
Well, the saying is "one bad apple spoils the entire barrel", and that's exactly what is happening.
@@hofterup something something immigration, something something france.
@@reedy_9619 huh?
@@bibblehouse his statement also aplly to immigration in europe yet it’s xenophobic to say it. I think you guys might be cop phobic by european standards
One of my good friends was kidnapped when she was about 19. The guy who snatched her had clearly modified his car for this purpose. But she managed to escape and ran to the police. They accused her of being a prostitute. One of the cops, a black woman, even said she must be lying because white men are not attracted to black women. Rather than looking for thr guy, they spent the next few weeks stalking her at work and anywhere else she went and questioning every male she spoke to trying to prove that she was a sex worker (she was working at a coffee shop at that time).
Even to this day when I listen to her tell the story she blames herself for everything that happened. She was wearing a crop top for the first time that day, she should have cleaned herself up before she went to the police, ect. As scary as what she went through was she has far more trauama as a result of the police than the man who snatched her.
:((( that is just awful. Sending love to you and your friend
it's ironic how these people who are supposed to help the community (regardless of age, gender, race etc.) just rub off the most alarming things
@@yuenmienyufunny thing, they don’t have to protect us. They literally have no legal obligation to “protect and serve” the community. What a crock of shit, ain’t it?
@@yuenmienyu Or these guys that are writing stories under this video are lies. You can never know. These anti police videos always attaract that crowd. Not to mention I wont watch this video, because its a waste of time, but guys liek these like to cut police videos in a particular way. I had a channel cutting out the stabbing part of a video just so they can claim the security guard was racist thats why he shot.
Sounds like they were straight up protecting this scumbag. It's not unheard of for truly awful officers to be not just aware of, but actually involved in trafficking.
Noone's free until everyone's free.
Noone's free until everyone's free.
Noone's free until everyone's free.
America is a free country! Just some are more free then others. Something about cops being called pigs makes me think of this. Sometimes I am tired of feeling like the donkey.
That doesn’t make any sense
@@MiggyBiggyif you know the definition of the word solidarity then it makes perfect sense.
I've actually been profiled by the police as a white man quite a bit. I deliver pizzas for a living and I used to deliver in the evening in a 1982 Ford LTD. It was in fairly decent shape but I delivered in a rough area of town and if I forgot to put on my car topper I could pretty well guarantee I was going to get pulled over for no reason. In a year and a half I got pulled over at least 10-20 times, every time when the cop came up and saw that I was delivering(and I would assume that they saw I was white) they'd immediately let me go. Never checked id or insurance, I never once was told why they had pulled me over. I actually had one cop apologize and say that he "thought this would be a good stop". Wtf does that even mean, a good stop? I believe they pulled me over simply because of the car I was driving, that style of a car is stereo-typically very popular among minorities and the areas that I would get pulled over were generally more heavily populated by black and hispanic folks. The overall experience with those stops really put my privilege in perspective. If I hadn't been white and at work, how would those stops have gone? It's ridiculous and disgusting.
My girlfriend got pulled over once for speeding and drove on with her flashers on at reduced speed in the rain to the closest gas station a half mile down the road. By the time she put it in park there were 3 cop cars in tow like she'd pulled a gun and waved it around out the window as she sped away.
She explained she was following advice from the evening news that going to a well lit area off of major roads for both her and the officers' safety was why she'd not immediately pulled over when they barked lights at her, and they explained that her Pontiac Grand Prix was a "drug dealer's car" and thus suspicious. Had she not been a white woman in her 40s at the time you can assume that interaction wouldn't have ended with just a speeding ticket.
I was a getaway driver for almost a month in the old place that I lived at. And one time I was caught with everybody else, but here’s the thing we were all white, and I guess because of my appearance I was let go and I played stupid because I didn’t know what was going to happen. But I got away with it and every single time I’ve ever been stopped for any reason in the past, especially if there was something wrong with my car or if there was a lightbulb that was not shining correctly. I wonder what I have been lucky if I was anybody else.
Story time: I live in Champaign Illinois (not Chicago). There was an incident involving the police and a 16 year old young man. This kid had recently lost his mother and had no older siblings, so he was the sole beneficiary of all property and things. One day he was locked out of his home and chose to go through the window in order to gain access to his home. He was spotted by a white bystander and the police were called, before this young man could get in the window good the officer on scene emptied his clip into this kid who passed no more than 10 ft from where his mother passed. The officer never went to jail and was subjected to suspension with pay and later desk duty. This is true events. This wasn’t picked up by any major news channels or BLM organizations.
This crushed me
BLM is about money not lives.
@@Random-ps4dl who the hell is talking about BLM?Please sit down.
Most cases of police brutality aren't noticed by the public at Large
@@susanrichardson631try reading the whole thread before you talk pointless bullshit next time...
I always understood the police were awful and untrustworthy. Then I became EMS and had to work with them, and got to add "worse than useless" to the list. There were a few medics that "liked" the police in the same way that some people worship angry gods, but none of us were ever happy when they showed up. Which was common with vehicle accidents, or domestic situations. Which they always made worse. On my very first call -- car accident, young teenager breaks his leg, the bone is sticking out. This officer shouldn't be anywhere near him. He's supposed to be directing traffic. This asshole walks over and just says, "damn that looks hopeless" and leaves. Of course the kid starts crying and I am reassuring him surgery will help (which you are not supposed to do as EMS. Because you can't actually promise anything, but like fuck what was I supposed to do?) And I can't even count the number of times we had to physically prevent an officer from entering the ambulance because of HIPAA. At least actual pigs could have been therapy animals
as a nurse who works crisis mental health in an ER and who sees a lot of cops - amen
I love the idea of replacing cops with therapy pigs 🐖🩷
Dude when I did rotations in ER. Serious, im glad to security officers keeping us safe when someone tries to swing at us but fuck pigs. Someone have an withdraw or wakes up in panic in the ER due to an OD or an accident and obviously is agitated and these idiota intead of calling us hand cuff the patients to the bed. :facepalm: Not restrains which itself are outdated and old fashion, steel handcuffs....
Thank you for your work in EMS. I cannot understate how valued you are, infinitely more than any cop could dream of.
I think its on the state that keeps police unproductive and unable to offer the help and support they could. I mean, there are countless mindefields in the world and we could use cops to clear them, but nobody has the guts to propose that.
I have been incarcerated. I was made to work on an extremely dangerous Department of Transportation road squad where I was "paid" 30 cents per day for 10+ hours of work standing on an interstate or highway with cars and 18 wheelers a foot away from me blowing by at 90+ miles per hour. At the mid point in the year 2 members of the DoT road crew had already been killed, 2 that were reported and known, but the prisons and DoT were not legally obligated to report inmate deaths, nor was it publicly tracked in any way, so the real number may never be known. The only reason we knew there had been 2 was because one was from our camp and the DoT boss of the site was told about the other one. Maybe it was just 2 for the year, but we all knew better. It just let us know, while we were patching potholes in highways located near the posh residential and commercial areas of the county, just how little our lives were worth to the system.
There was one unit of housing in the camp that was not a century old with no air or heat. It was reserved for inmates on the outside work program. This housing unit had all the modern amenities including actually hot showers, air conditioning, and new TVs. These "workers" would be picked up every day at the prison by whatever employer contracted for them with the prison. They were typically paid $5 an hour for their work, while these companies paid the prison $15 to $18 an hour for their labor. The inmates must pay to stay in that improved housing. They must pay the prison for their bag lunch of a bologna sandwich and a boiled egg every day. The must pay the prison for their work clothes and for them to be laundered. Most of the inmates in that wing are able to save roughly $10 to $15 a day that they may get when they are released, but not if they owe any back taxes, restitution, court costs, probation costs, etc. It is just slavery under a different name with a layers of schemes to make feel more acceptable to the outside world.
I just wanted to share my experiences with others that may not ever stop to think what these programs may be like. I hope it helps.
thank you for sharing your experience.
@@niax782 Pretty obvious this ain't a "honest question".
@@niax782 That is just not the point. People who commit crimes remain people, who have fundamental interests that ought to be respected. It is not because someone commits a crime that they give up the right to live - even if they have taken this right from someone else! That is not to say that freedom is absolute, as one could imagine that the only way to deal with an armed and dangerous individual is to neutralize them and potentially killing them. Instead, that is to say that, once you are no longer an immediate threat, you remain what each of us are: individuals with fundamental and legitimate interest in freedom. Therefore, inmates, even when guilty, remain entitled to freedom (so long as the freedom of others is not threatened). Treating prisoners like property, making them into slave, is denying them the rights that their humanity entitles them to.
@@niax782 Do you think prison should be slavery sir? Or should it be about rehabilitation? Have you heard of Western European prisons?
@@niax782 So you think "killed while working during imprisonment" is a just consequence for committing a crime? Society's emphasis on punishment, pain, and re-traumatization rather than rehabilitation is genuinely disturbing
"You tend to latch on to kids that you know you can do something for, as opposed to the, just, like, the larger population of kids that you know you're failing." As someone who works with marginalized students, this hit me like a punch to the gut. Real tears shed. Truly amazing work here!
Yeah, I teared up too with Ben's story
I'm a white male who was raised in an upper-middle class suburb and I've still had bad experiences with cops my entire life, despite never breaking any laws. I've literally been pulled over because someone in the passenger seat of the car I was driving looked at an officer "wrong" at an intersection. I know another white person from the same town who was pulled over in his own driveway, because the cop "thought he had stolen the car." Then, when his mom came out and explained that it was her vehicle and it was not stolen, the cop changed his story and said he thought her son had been drinking. He did no tests and "let them off with a warning." They complained to the department and of course nothing ever came of it. I know a gay man from Tennessee who was arrested and detained overnight because the arresting officer accused him of drinking without bothering to test for it; he had never had a drop of alcohol once in his life at that point, and the experience traumatized him for life.
Fuck cops. I've had bad experiences with them despite breaking no laws my entire life, and I'm as privileged as they come. I've been called an "edgelord" and gotten weird looks from people for years whenever I've voiced this opinion. I'm glad people like you are spreading awareness through informative content like this. ACAB
But violent felons aren’t very good either. They can be just as bad or worse than cops
Yes bro, I'm also somewhat privileged and white and I had many bad experiences with cops. They used to follow and harass all the teenagers in town just for... existing. And post up at popular hangout spots just to watch them, come over and ask for everyone's information, IDs, home addresses. When no one was doing anything illegal. My one friend was 15 and got assaulted in a car by a 19 year old. Quite literally statutory r*pe. She was crying and delirious, and the police actually walked up to the car after it happened because of the commotion. But the dudes father was a cop with the department. The kid never saw any charges, and the girl was told she was "making it up"
One time a few kids were stealing money from cars around town. I guess one of them knew me, and gave the cops my name instead of their own. This resulted in the cop coming to my house, telling my grandparents to bring me to the station, and lecturing me for two hours about how I'm "going down a bad path" and how he thinks he's going to end up arresting me one day unless I find better friends. Also not-so-subtley trying to get information out of me, which obviously I didn't have. Then he tried to tell my grandparents I should do community service in order to "learn a lesson." Years later, I ran into this cop again and he said straight to my face, that I was "quite the little douchebag" when I was younger. All because I wasn't accepting his bullshit about how I deserve to be punished because some rando falsely identified himself as me.
I have more stories but those are the more egregious ones. Cops are disgusting. I have never once had a good experience with one.
@@oofballz4328 I have never been convicted of a crime in my life. And I especially wasn't doing anything when I was 14 hanging out in town. I've had plenty of bad experiences with cops, not just one. Every single experience I've had with them has been negative.
I think it’s important to say that the probability of being harassed by police officers increases when somone is POC but just because that is true, doesn’t mean those who are white are escaping from the power imbalance. A white person may have more privilege than POC but they can be affected as well by the ridiculous level of authoritative power, at this point, as long as somebody is rich, especially rich, and white, that is where all the benefits are
Lets never forget that slavery, actual literal slavery, is still legal as long as someone gets convicted of a crime first.
And they can say anyone has committed a crime if they want to. Examples of actual crimes people were enslaved over:
Walking on the wrong side of the train tracks
Whistling
Unspecified
Knowing Better has a fantastic video where he answers when the last legal slave (by the legal term slave) was freed and he came up with 1942. But I've heard 1963 as well. In reality, Jim Crow is alive and still good friends with lawyers.
@@TheReddaredevil223being unemployed, being homeless, doing things after a certain time while black
@@chaotickreg7024there were people in rural areas of the Deep South being convicted of engaging in slavery/the slave trade as late as the 1960s. Typically through debt bondage and quasi-legal contractual agreements. I.e. you pick up a black hitchhiker and offer him a sandwich, then demand that he work to pay off that sandwich, then refuse to let him go because his debts grow faster than his pay. (This is a real case I remember reading about).
This is true! (And the framers of the Constitution did nothing to prevent it.)
I got arrested in a Gwinnett county HS when I was 17 for terroristic threats and acts of violence. To spare the full story, I was convicted of it again and then the state wanted to put me away for good. I had to go to court and everything and the school and the person who accused me the second time came on the stand and admitted that what they did was wrong and shouldn't have happened and I was found unanimously not guilty. From that day when I was 17 to this day, I have had to deal with the blowback of just being arrested, even after being found not guilty. It's hard to get a job, a loan, approved for a car, an apartment and I'll probably deal with that the rest of my life. Ppl only wanna think of the carceral system in a linear way "You did X, so you deserve Y" but what happens when ppl served that Y, for whatever they did? That school that sent me to jail for 3 weeks when I was 17 admitted on the stand that they did it becuz I "looked intimidating". I promise you there is some white kid, my age who did the exact same thing and was just sent home and spared having their entire life derailed. Like FD said, most ppl are complicit in policing as it is becuz of their proximity to the carceral system, the farther away from it, the less you think about it but to ppl who HAVE dealt with it, they wouldn't wish it on anyone.
Even without the arrest record, there's a high likelihood you would still probably experience a lot of the racist indignities you referred to. White convicted felons without a high school diploma had the same employment prospects as African Americans with a college degree and no criminal record. In regards to receiving callbacks and getting a job. This was published in the sociological study *"marked."*
Arrested but not convicted? You should be able to vet that removed from your record. I heard Judge Greg talking about it. Serious, look it up tho.
You lied when you said you would spare us the full story.
I am white with a college degree. I've seen the 'justice' system from the inside for a short time. So has my wife, my brother and a few friends. I was incredibly privileged to get out lightly. I now have a degree and a good job.
If my skin had more melanin I would not be where I am today.
@@vanthdreadstar8788 You want a fuller story of imperial injustice, read _Assata_
This was a paragraph or so
There’s no two ways about it. Police violence is a form of domestic terrorism.
Looting businesses isnt domestic terrorism though
@@oofballz4328why not both
@@fukquro I was being sarcastic, btw
@@oofballz4328 property damage is just like taking away human righrs
My friend was kidnapped and sa when she was 12 the rapist/kidnapper got 3 months. The police treated her a child and a victim like she was the rapist. They made fun of her they said she was lying they defended the rapist. They acted like doing their job was an inconvenience and they couldn’t care less.
I've called the police exactly one time and it was enough to learn my lesson: I was 16 and someone broke into our house in the middle of the night and tried to assault my mom, who was the sole caregiver for me and my brother. I had to chase him out of the house with a hatchet. Afterwards, I thought that the best thing to do would be to call the police so that they could offer us some sense of security because my mom was too scared to even speak to me and we didn't have much family to turn to. The cops showed up two hours afterwards and acted like my mom was just pretending that she'd been attacked and treated me like I was an idiot kid. Then they left, and my mom was so scared to fall asleep in that house again that we had to move away.
And yet despite the fact that I wished I had been able to catch that guy and make sure he couldn't hurt my family again, what I want most is for that to never have happened in the first place and to never happen again to anyone. Police can't bring me closer to that reality, but robust social systems that actually meet our needs can. At the very least, well funded support systems will do better at helping us heal in the aftermath of those things than two worthless cops shrugging their shoulders and talking down to us ever will. Police don't protect any of us, they serve the state and capital interests at our expense.
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@@sakinemirkanyou shouldn't have to live with the death of someone on your hands because the police can't be trusted.
Holy shit, I hope you all are doing good now.
I called the cops once too and learned my lesson. I was 21 and homeless and got robbed at gunpoint. The detective had the cops frisk me, cuff me, put me in the backseat, and drive me to the other side of the block to make my husband "tell the truth" about what happened. Even the cops said it was ridiculous. She also made me feel like shit saying there was a missing kid she could be looking for but instead she had to come to us.
I did call 911 recently on the behest of my neighbor, who was beaten bloody with a gun in our parking lot. But other people had already called too. I was more concerned with getting her an ambulance though as she was pretty messed up.
If you became a police officer, you could be that change.
I am a 6’4 300 pound black man. Recently graduated. Filmmaker. I am a victim of police brutality twice. I wish I had the privilege to see police and think to myself “oh thank goodness I’m safe”
I can only imagine brother. I'm a 5'10 white guy, software development and I've been assaulted by police. On the other hand, I was once let go by police after having found drugs on me IN ALABAMA. So even the "good" stuff shows how fucked things are. I still fear cops, I can't fathom what it's like for you.
@@agluebottle it's funny... Bear with me my story has a point.
When I was a kid COPS would come on TV and I would sneak and watch it, because the theme song was awesome and the "cops" seemed to be really serious about their job.
I ended up being utterly confused, because the cops were always chasing poor uneducated White people... And a few domestic abusers... And some female pillbillies... Which were also poor uneducated White people. Every now and again a Black person would be involved or someone whose family descendants were South of the border if the episode took place in Florida.
In hindsight I realize America is so segregated that growing up in the then much Blacker Atlanta, the COPS episodes I saw showed mostly White "criminals", and other parts of America probably saw a Blacker version.
The other thing I noticed was most of the "criminals" weren't actually bank robbers and murders. They were poor, uneducated, often homeless, often mentally ill, and addicts. Why would adults enjoy watching the parts of society we stepover get embarrassed beyond their already s**** situation? Jerry Springer rose to fame a year or two later and I realized adults just like watching Trainwreck TV.
All this to say yeah the justice system is set up to punch down and it knows no color. However, based on who I would see the police to be "too busy to do paperwork on" a darker complexion would definitely make you more likely to get arrested.
@@sabersin7694he should, his kind should still be incarcerated for all the crime they commit on their same race.
I mean I don't even feel that way (safe) and I'm an average-sized W lady. I won't say every average street cop is violent because that hasn't been my experience but they are assholes. They have no business being out there and they're looking for money that's what it comes down to. That, and someone to fuck with, usually someone homeless. They're looking to steal from you, either your vehicle if they can find some minor violation, or your money through a ticket extortion or even perhaps a on-site theft of whatever money you have on you after they intimidate you into an illegal and violative vehicle search.
The only time that I'm not worried is if I'm driving past in a car and they're clearly not paying any attention to me.
It's sad that so-called security officers or safety officers in this country make exactly no one feel safe. It's because most of them are sociopaths, many of them are predators, and they are in a criminal gang bound on exploitation, harm and grand larceny. Yes there are detectives who are supposed to investigate alleged crimes but let's just look at this comment section, how many people have felt validated, respected, and treated respectfully by responding officers and/or detectives?? I'm not hearing one story to that end. It may be happening somewhere and I hope it is, but I just never get to hear about it.
I mean it's a job for a sociopath. Why would anyone be able to sleep at night after arresting somebody that they never met, that has never done them any harm, and that wasn't presenting any harm to anybody else? They weren't a suspect in a murder or rape case- maybe they were just found with drugs while going about their business, or they had a minor bench warrant for a nonsense citation such as shoplifting or some other unnecessary bullshit?? In order to move up in the cop world you have to be a sociopath because you have to be perfectly happy harming to people you've never met and who have never done you harm and are not a harm to anyone else or a suspect a legitimate crime. Cops are sociopaths because they participate in the "roadside racket" which is responsible for the larcenous seizure and grand theft of collectively, millions and billions of dollars of assets from travelers and local citizens every year. That, plus tickets, which are just theft and extortion, add to the loot.
PD's are nothing but organized crime schemes. The very best thing any local leader can do to protect their community is to shut these filth down. They can maintain a small supply of 911 responders and some detectives under a different umbrella.
My cousin became an LAPD cop a couple years ago and it definitely is hard to reckon with my love for my cousin and only wanting the best for him and him joining one of the most notorious police force’s in the country. Recently he left field duty or field work and now his job is to compile evidence against child rapists and child sex traffickers so I’m actually proud of him now. He literally has to sit and watch and get evidence on some of the most horrific monstrous actions humans can ever do. I couldn’t even imagine having that job.
"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me."
-Martin Niemoller
"Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented."
-Elie Weisel
I'm in Chicago and I remember 7 years ago I had a mental health crisis when I was 15. I tried committing suicide and my parents called in a psych ward to detain me for treatment. I was usually greeted by an paramedics who would transport me but when I went outside there were 8 cops who all had their hands placed above their guns saying they got a call for a highly unstable person. I completely froze and my stepdad came out and explained the situation just for all of them to get disappointed. It was extremely traumatic and if my body had reacted with fight instead of freeze or even if I tried to run back in the house, I'm sure they all would have made me into swiss cheese.
Holy shit. That's so fucked up.
I am glad you are still here my sister - mental illness is the last thing anyone deserves but 15 - I may sound like the boring old asshole I am but that sounds like the description of a young girl. A wise and intelligent young lady I would wager but in the grand scheme of things still a child regardless. To not only have to deal with feeling so poorly in the first place but to add to that, suffering the mental abuse from 8 state sanctioned sadistic killers... I hope the last 7 years have brought you the peace and happiness you deserve. Love from all here who care from the UK xx
So sorry dude.
The most jarring thing I see with police is when they're disappointed when they can't shoot/hurt someone. It's like they get the job to act out violence thats sponsored by the government. idk why else you would be a cop if you knew you had to kill people for work.
Never call the cops. If there’s mental health involved they will use it against you. That’s what they did to me last week.
I got arrested when I was 13 for defending myself against my brother, who was trying to beat my head in with a glass bottle. I finally fought back and socked him in the face and my mother had me arrested immediately. I'd been horribly abused by my family for my whole life, and had been abused by students and teachers at school, and I didn't care enough to defend myself from the cops too.
As they're driving me downtown to juvenile hall, the cop driving comments on my lack of fear/sadness/defensiveness/general emotion, and then says, "I bet you'd show more of a reaction if I pulled over and (G)raped you." (extra letter included to avoid censorship which really I shouldn't have to do.)
Again, I was 13. His partner just slumped and looked out the window wistfully and had no other reaction to his buddy threatening to (G)rape a child. The worst part is, if I'd been 18 or over, I'm positive he would have done it, and had done it before. In my state, at least at that time, cops could legally have intercourse with arrested persons if the arrested person "consented". I'm sure that sicko had a lot of detained people who, according to him, "consented".
It feels wrong to give a thumbs up to such a raw story of horribly abusive humans
Thank you for sharing your experience
@@fionafiona1146calling them humans or pigs feels too wrong.
@@aprinceofearthsea4875 don't insult pigs, those are much more intelligent and empathetic than humans, especially considering the harm domestication dose to those attributes.
@@fionafiona1146 Humans are far better than police, let's be clear.
I am a white 23 year old woman. Raised in poverty and both of my parents were incarcerated in a federal prison. The affects are still felt today emotionally and financially. I was put in the county overnight in Indiana over a joint. I am here for police and prison abolition.
Your parents obviously did something pretty bad to land in Federal prison.
taxes to cops or taxes to gangstas ... law and order either way though gangsta due process has yet to be demonstrated
Abolition does not mean that I don’t want justice and/or rehabilitation. Did u even watch the video?
@@user-md1fq9zb9g That's a dumb argument because it completely ignores reality.
Bad people exist, and sometimes force is needed to bring justice. Police emerged as a thing to become that force. Get rid of police, and soon something similar to police will come about after society realizes you actually need cops if you want your country to not look like Mad Max.
@@POCKET-SAND What makes you think police emerged as a thing to become that force? Are you just assuming that to be true?
In reality, the police emerged because a group of those exact bad people you just mentioned built up massive amounts of wealth through the exploitation of the working class, and then decided they needed a group of people who could help them maintain control of all of the country's resources. He describes some of the history of this exact process in the video you left this comment on.
Bad people absolutely exist, as you said. And for some reason, you are currently licking their boots.
My cousin was killed by a cop. My cousin was a teenager, just driving home from baseball practice, and was murdered by an officer who was “pursuing a lead in a crime.” The officer in question got away with his crime because of qualified immunity. My cousin was a great kid, a pillar of his community. I’m still pissed.
Edit to note that it took months before I could watch this video because I’m still grieving, 35 years later.
I’m a lower class white male, and I got exposed to the justice system at age 17. I was arrested for possession of cocaine with intent to distribute in a town that predominantly held white upper class public schools. I was tried as an adult, expelled from school, and spent the next few years dealing with the justice system in one form or another.
My eyes were opened to the treatment of black and brown individuals when I saw how differently I was treated for the exact same crime versus other people of color. We had to go to drug rehabilitation classes, and every week I interacted with people from all age ranges, some of which had already done hard time. I have never met a single person that being put in the system helped. Even the “counselors” at these classes treated black and brown individuals differently. I was treated as a “good kid” who had “made mistakes”, while another person my exact same age with a less egregious crime was told again and again how stupid and disrespectful they were even when they gave the same responses I did.
The entire justice system only exists to generate revenue for the state, and even at the “rehabilitative level” ends up causing far more harm than good. I never felt more threatened or in danger than I have in the company of police or administrators in the justice system. Had I not directly had this experience, I would not identify as an abolitionist. It amazes me when other white folks ask me wide eyed about my experiences, and how uncomfortable they get when I answer them honestly.
I won't say that revenue isn't generated for the state. I will say that there is a massive amount of revenue generated for private capital. Who do you think owns the booking systems? The roster system. The systems medical charts in? Where do you think commissary comes from? Who runs the telephone system? It's all contracted to private companies that have their fingers in the pie at every level of government from town jails to federal (not to mention private prisons, nor contracting out the labor of inmates). Governments in the US do not have enough funding to build & operate these things themselves, the costs are passed on to those caught in the system & their families.
What is it that you want abolished?
Ya, being in the system is like living in the constant threat that if you answer wrong, they will pull a gun and the never ending humiliation that drives people to rebel when pushed into the corner. I was never in the sysfem, but I can always see the resentment toward the system, which means people hold more resentment than they do understanding the problem. That's a never-ending circle jerk.
Thank you for sharing your story. I do believe the whole policing system is overall unfair and dangerous. The only "privilege " I see is that you may have been a little less likely to die at the hands of the police.
@@xingzheli7431 prisons and the for-profit justice system. I want private corporate money out of prisons, an abolishment of laws that would require imprisonment, and ultimately over time the replacement of the prison system with a rehabilitation focused approach that doesn’t focus on punishment as the sole measure of justice.
Me: "is it illegal to call an officer pig?"
Police officer: "Yes"
Me: "Okay. But is it illegal to call a pig officer?"
Police officer: "No, of course not."
Me: "Good to know. Good night officer."
😂
Bruh 😂
That's a good one
First amendment
You’re so real for that
I think someone wrote a book people insist on misunderstanding as critique on communism rather than any authoritarian structures 😉
I remember wanting to be a cop when I was a kid...then I got taken away from my parents because they had a small baggie of weed...
The brainwashing to make people think cops are good people in REAL. People need to know. The police are the people's greatest enemy, not what you want to be.
Sounds like a personal issue bud.
@@WGPhil-uw5cs Sounds like a human rights violation to me. Jailing somebody for something that is medicinally beneficial and causes no harm to anybody else. Bet you would hate it if they passed a prohibition law on alcohol. Imagine getting arrested just because you chose to drink (even though alcohol is genuinely far more dangerous, more addictive and causes far more death and violent assault)
@codesm96 medical benefits like schizophrenia? Sure bud. I think all mind alternating substances should be illegal. I'm not sure why you think I would be for alcohol.
@@WGPhil-uw5cs None of them should be illegal. Should be for responsible use, legally licensed and regulated for sale over the age of 18. Also I have been using weed for over 12 years and I have not had ONE single schizophrenic episode, it's done far more good than any harm for my health conditions such as IBS and gastroenteritis. MOST people who have it won't either, the ones that do are already susceptible to severe psychiatric issues such as predisposed to schizophrenia, have a history of poor mental health or psychosis so no, you are wrong. If it has no medical benefits are you falsely claim, why are qualified doctors prescribing this as medicine then? Do you know better than they do? Crime has gone down in places weed have been legalized because police are no longer wasting taxpayers money arresting consenting adults who are using this for their own reasons and not harming other people while more serious crimes are being ignored because a police officer would much rather arrest someone for a simple, petty crime (even if it harms nobody) than they would more serious ones where there are victims involved. Tell me, why do you think someone using weed is worth taking police away from more serious crimes such as assault, robbery and rape? We shouldn't be punished, arrested, fined or imprisoned for a naturally grown substance that has not been the root cause of any recorded deaths and people can seek help much easier if legal than they ever would when it is illegal. People like you are the reason why so many states and countries are turning to crap. You don't support the freedoms of citizens who are getting arrested for a near victimless crime. How is that right in any way? Explain this to me. Sounds like you hate it based on your gut feeling and also have done no real research into it's effects and uses, you haven't put forward a good argument, just one that was easily debunked so you don't really have a valid opinion on the matter, it's not to late to get your point across again with some evidence but if you try, it will actually go against you.
As a veteran the moment that made me open my eyes was watch Army Lt. Caron Nazario be pepper sprayed in uniform at a traffic stop. He was held at gunpoint and told that he should be a afraid.
I as a white 17 year old was sentenced to 8 years for a conspiracy to commit burglary charge. Never entered a home. Never stole anything. First charge. That’s the rural Midwest. My entire family is addicts. All my friends are dead or in jail. The closest thing to someone on the left is twenty miles away. I still try and organize. I still agitate. I still do what I can.
Wow I think the biggest priority here is getting your life together, I hope you can manage it
That's good. Everyone is gonna put their two cents in here young man, so take it all with grains of salt. But my only recommended is two words. Get. Out. Get the hell away from there, from that family, and any friends. Nothing about that environment will do you any good at all. Get out as quickly as you possibly can.
Keep yourself safe
I'd probably be considered right-wing by most of the people here, but I definitely don't trust the DOJ or its officers. Looking at what they've done to our 2nd Amendment is all I need to know, but if that's not enough, I can see how they treat prisoners, and how they treat our border security (the DOJ is currently trying to get Texas to take down its ocean-buoy system).
The DOJ hates the citizens, likes crime, loves human trafficking, and is obsessed with torture and profiteering. If we have an apocalypse and they survive, they will go full Tower of London on the people.
Midwest is rough. Its a solemn frontier. I'm a lefty im in fort Wayne so I'm not to far away
As a male victim of CSA, it takes a massive effort to make anyone believe you.
I'm so sorry
I wish you well on your healing. I’m so sorry you experienced that ❤️🩹
im 30 years old, and my assault happened so long ago, and i still have to argue with some people that i was SA'ed at 8. its so infuriating.
What's the "C" before "Sexual Assault" mean?
@@arthurbarbosa8204 I’m pretty sure it stands for child
I called in my mom for her emotional abuse and when the cop (who i told the department NOT to send) came not only did he side with my mom he also said others have it worse and that im just a normal teenager. CPS, who came a month earlier, didn't even really talk to me and said that the only thing that needed done was clean my room (unlivable) and dropped the case. I don't know what I am supposed to do anymore about this.
Im sorry this has happened to you. Sleep over with a friend with a welcoming houshold, or just spend lots of time with them. Tell/ask your mom each time, and then slowly increase your time with that family, or rotate families. I had a couple of friends did that with eachother. Cats, if they dislike their home will do the same thing, and they definitely have the right idea. I hope your situation gets better.
lol snitch "Girl boss" haha only fans 304
@girlbossincorporated
I and my wife went to CPS in Beaver, Utah to report sexual abuse of her before school age grandchild and I was told, "If you come back, I'll have you arrested for trespassing". I told her, "If the need arises, I'll be back". I worked for many years to help that child and many others.
Not really related, but CPS is corrupt. CPS had an open case on my family for 7 years, putting us in deeper debt and causing my parents (especially my mum) ptsd. Realistically they didn't have a case and when it came down to it taking so many kids would be great for their business.
They usually take kids from poor families and put them into foster homes where they go from home to home and often turn to crime.
I understand what happen to my family isn't commen, but CPS works under capitalism so is fundamentally a business.
Calling CPS should be a last resort, because most kids end up worse, and the ones that do need help often don't get any.
CPS is a joke when it comes to helping people.😞And Gen Xers and boomers tend to unjustifyingly take the side of adults regardless if the adult is in the wrong. Please try to find somewhere safe. A friend's home maybe.
I'm 5'6, small, pretty privileged, white, and neurodivergent. I grew up in a small southern town.
When I was in third grade and I was grabbed by a teacher by the wrists, I hit them on their hands grabbing my wrists because it was a trigger for me. A cop was called in to talk to me, and I was unsure if I was getting arrested or not.
In high school, I was nearly detained for saying I was going to kill someone after a book was intentionally dropped near my head to wake me up when I had drifted off to sleep in class. I sometimes wonder if I had been a person of color, it would have been worse for me, as the cops were brought in to the office to stand there as they told me that I was very nearly arrested.
Since all of these incidents, I've been terrified of cops, and even now I am terrified to even see a cop or walk by one. The police are used as a cudgel against neurodivergent folks and especailly neurodivergent BlPOC because the system doesn't begin to try to understand them, using terror to force any group of ostracized people into submission. ACAB
I kind of always knew that the legal system was fucked, but once I'm at my boyfriend, who was fresh out of prison for a drug charge, and I realized that all of the people around us on the sex offender registration had done less than half of the time he did. One man was charged with the sexual assault of an infant, and still did less than half the prison time of my boyfriend who just got caught with some drugs.
So yeah, it's beyond fucked.
OMG Unbelievable... This video and these comments have been very eye-opening to me
The First Offense Act is responsible for that, but it is being addressed.
Ian Watkins shivers
I was sexually assaulted and people often asked me why I never went to the police.
I saw how the police treated victims and how the the criminal justice system would’ve picked apart my mental health issues in public. I just thought it was better to not go through with the whole ordeal.
i am so sorry for what happened.. this whole system is just messed up
It was the right decision. From what I saw growing up, you call the cops, they arrive, take notes, shrug... and leave. If you're lucky.
The only time cops do anything is when the victims fight back against their abusers... prisons and juvenile centers jail a *disturbing* amount of victims who hurt or kill their abusers in self-defense, *especially* Black women and girls.
I hate that you've been forced to endure that without the help that these corrupt systems cynically pretend to promise us, it's absurd.
@@kemiiwiithe system isn’t messed up, people are messed up. The system would work very well if the right people were involved.
@@chasemiles9569 People are messed up BECAUSE the system is messed up and working exactly as it was designed. It doesn’t matter how many hands change in this socioeconomic system, nothing in any level of government will ever work for the betterment of people so long as this disgusting system is allowed to exist
I am so sorry, there are hardly many judges who aren't dismissive and cruel to assault victims...
my brother is developmentally disabled, very touchy, sometimes has meltdowns, sometimes runs out into the street- every time we're in public i worry he'll run off and some cop will take one glance and either decide he's a violent drug addict or decide that they can pretend they thought that. will yell "stop," he won't stop, they do g-d knows what. fun fact! he is white and this has already happened to several of his non-white classmates, one of whom was 11 years old when a cop traumatized them so badly they had severe issues for a year, lost all trust in any kind of authority. they can't even handle deaf people who LITERALLY CANNOT PHYSICALLY HEAR THEIR COMMANDS, much less people who cognitively cannot understand and/or "appropriately" respond to them
My dad was incarcerated for many years in Atlanta. Of course he has his problems that sent him to prison but going there has done absolutely no good for him. The prison industrial complex enslaves people and also puts them in situations where they end up going back into the system. Your video has inspired me to interview him on the subject so I can get a more personal experience of the effects of the prison industrial complex
My grandpa was a cop. He was bad enough at work that he was briefly suspended for brutalizing a teenager in the 80s, and he regularly beat my grandma and my dad at home. His coworkers knew this about him. In 2020 I ran into one of his old coworkers by chance. He called my grandpa "rowdy", but otherwise spoke fondly of him. I always hear the line that "nobody hates a bad cop more than a good cop", but the reality is that they rarely hold themselves or each other accountable.
Nobody hates a bad cop more than a good cop...because all the folks who do get detained and beaten.
On my god, this makes me so fucking sad. 😞
I think your grandfather was an exception. Most cops are good cops, regardless if they turn a blind eye to the doings of bad cops. If they do their job well, that's what matters, not what other cops got going on.
@samspade8830 so those cops knowing about an actual crime taking place - the domestic assault of OP's family - and doing nothing about it were the good ones or. . .? 🤔
@@Citycomeawalkin Yes. It's not their concern if it's not reported. You can apply the same principle to any workplace. I'm sure there are countless jobs where co-workers know of another worker being abused, or doing the abuse to their significant other, and don't do anything about it. You can't apply this to just cops, it's human nature to turn a blind eye to domestic violence.
I fault OP Alex's father, and grandmother for not reporting, more so than the police.
Man, i was a teenager/young man during the "Guiliani Era". I was CONSTANTLY profiled by the NYPD, from being pulled out of Taxi cabs for no reason, thrown against walls and fences just for walking home from school in the Bronx, and told "I better not let them see me around here." In my own neighborhood. I never did walk the streets fearing Police, but hating them until this day where i see them for what they truly are, the hand and baton of Capital that extorts the populace. Thank you.
Most militarized, most funded, and most deadly gang in nyc. I was 12 during stop and frisk bloomberg era and I’m a white passing Hispanic male and on two separate occasions was stopped by police before becoming a teenager in that era
Rudy "Jerkoff" Guiliani, is that the same guy who supported Jan.6th, was arrested, and then got himself a jail mugshot that can be viewed online, and previously was about to pull his junk out in front of a young woman, i'm sorry "adjusting" his belt and pants to be more comfortable on camera while he was laying on a bed?
It’s sick how after 9/11 so much of the mainstream narrative portrayed Giuliani as a hero and it took him being a bumbling fool for Trump for that to finally end. He was always terrible
As a conservative, brainwashed kid, I mindlessly supported the police and believed defunding them was unreasonable. But ever since the summer right before my freshman year when a paranoid anonymous parent of one of my friends stumbled across my RUclips channel and expressed completely unreasonable and unfounded concerns to the police that I would be a threat to others or myself because of a couple of purposefully out of context edgy jokes I made at the time I was in middle school, leading them to knocking on my door when I was alone without any adults and breaching my privacy to investigate my room, I had become uncomfortable and skeptical. My beliefs were later reinforced in senior year once I had started to open my mind and become more progressive and an overenthusiastic and proud, young cop came into the classroom and talked about what the police in school do in cases of suspicion of drugs and weapons. It all seemed so unfair and invasive and whenever I questioned the ethicality and fairness of it, I was talked down to as if I was stupid, in a subtle, subliminally threatening way, as if she was putting me in my place under her individual authority. I was very uncomfortable, as were my friends, and she seemed to almost flaunt and brag in a subtle way how she could technically do anything if she wanted because she could say there was reasonable suspicion, and that if you refused to cooperate with her invasion of your privacy to search you, that you would be arrested and punished. The red flags popped up even more when I brought up my search incident and she talked down to me smugly even more, defending them and saying they were in the right and I was in the wrong. She tried to make it seem like I was in a perfectly sound position to tell them that I didn't want to let them in, despite the fact that I was a teen without parents home and under stress. That was the moment that I realized I cannot, and never will be able to trust the police.
Sounds like a Karen problem, not a police problem. And police legally can't enter your house without a warrant . . . unless you give them permission to do so. In cases in which they're worried the suspect might later hide, destroy evidence, or worse, they'll pre-emptively get a warrant before the first visit.
@@POCKET-SAND police "can't", but they will do everything within their power, including coerce and lie, to do so.
@@acex222 According to whom exactly? That's what I like about the Left, it's mostly anecdotal hear-say they use to justify their unreasonable views of defunding or abolishing police.
The great thing about modern times is most police stations now require officers to wear body cams and all recordings of police interactions are publicly available. When this started to become a thing, the Leftist rejoiced that police would now begin to be shown as how they "actually were" according to Leftist logic. What actually happened was the cams showed the suspects to be the ones at fault in the overwhelming majority of police interactions.
@@POCKET-SANDhe was a minor at the time so even if he did give the officers permission they still wouldn't be allowed in the house
Lol. Don't act innocent
You must have done something really messed up if the cops were involved.
Was walking on a corner trying to find my Uber, across the street was a car accident with a bunch of cops casing the place. Two of them came over and immediately got in my face, hounding me, asking me what I was doing there, if I lived around the neighborhood, blocking me off from any sort of exit, not even giving me time to respond to their questions. I'm black but was raised with the mantra of 'Do nothing wrong, nothing bad will happen'. That incident could have gone very wrong had I been a shade darker, been more resistant to their bullying. I realized then how messed up policing in this country was. ACAB forever.
Legit had an existential crisis watching the early version. If prisons are for those who choose crime to pay the bills over homelessness and homelessness is for those not yet incarcerated and with no family support, then there is no escape. Prisoners are forced to labor or endure more torture and the homeless are a spectacle warning to those who would dare deviate from being a compliant worker. Attempting to co-opt the system from within is to give it power. The only answer is to tear the system down.
If you wanted to really offend the snowflakes who think america isn't racist anymore you might even call it slavery part 2.
Who says the system has a problem with you tearing it down? They'll help you. Certainly the Republicans will help you. It is not as simple as tearing anything down. Tearing down takes a second. Do you really believe things will be better for the downtrodden in a second? Okay, stopwatches ready. It is better to wring out whatever concessions you can by whatever strategy you can wring it out and there are wrongs you cannot right which will never be righted not by fixing thing or by tearing them down that is the sadness we all face.
@@tankerbrujafr
Real talk
The most perfect system of slavery, is one where the slaves believe themselves to be free
55:05 "I lament Ben's potential, but, I want to be clear, 'potential' is not a prerequisite for basic humanity." This is so important and can't be stressed enough. It's important to see people's strengths and give them the tools and reinforcement to grow them, but, ultimately, we don't care for people because of what they could hypothetically offer society in the future, we care for them because they're people, and they're part of our communities like anyone else.
Thanks for the regards. I’m definitely leveling up everyday, contributing to family and community wellness. Just reached my 1 year anniversary of being out a few weeks ago (8/26/22). Just another unfinished story ✊🏾, but more stronger now than ever before
@@francmono Do you think we can talk? I don't want to ask you a million questions about what that was like unless you would like that (I'd be down to listen to anything and everything you want to say on it), I'm actually more interested in talking about music. I'm about to watch your long video after I finish this one, but I checked out that freestyle at the beginning and I was floored.
"potential is not a prerequisite for basic humanity" full stop. so powerful.
Now I see!! THAT'S WHY I LIKE YOU!!! I too was a teacher! I left because the school system focuses on low-hanging fruit of pre-packaged, well-conditioned, high scoring children. I was excited to tap-in with the "most-loved" kids that are on the brink of falling into the system. Most of those overlooked kids were thee most intelligent and unchallenged students who saw school as "boring". They needed to find stimulation that puts their intelligence to work to provide income for a family they morally take responsibility over - despite being 10-20 years younger than the youngest adult in the house. So, teaching kids to invest in their intelligence instead of a quick turnaround was MY challenge! It was like a field-test of all my outreach skills! Yet, when I was reprimanded for hyper-focusing on the kids that lower our overall test scores (especially when I challenged admins and/or Truancy Officers and/or behavioral management programs), I was done. I'd rather go back to teaching art and/or mentoring while making money selfishly in a mindless job. Watching kids fall into the cycles I climbed out of because I will get fired if I fuck up the school's budget by October is not worth 50% of low-income wages. I'm qualifying for EBT while trynna tell families that education gets you off EBT?? GTFOH
P.S. 1:09:11 well said 🤯
P.P.S 1:44:30 I did and it didn't go well. And I don't believe I have the balls to do it again. Separately, my older brother did in protection of his own daughter, and his outcome was drastically worse - luckily he survived 🙏🏽. Immediate extrajudicial capital punishment is an effective tool for curbing community oversight.
Nobody should make money from prisons. Incarceration should always be a burden and should never be incentivized
(Edit) this guy was entirely right, i misread it as making money from prison. leaving reply up because its annoying to me to just see like 5 people replying to something that isnt there Also sidenote it seems like people think i meant that prisoners make the money the earn? I didn't mean that at all, I just didnt mention the profits made off of prisoners
Bro what
Are you fr saying, after watching this video, that being in prison is a desirable to make money in any circumstance
For sure dude if i can't get a job I'll just do crime, get sent to some of the worst places you could possibly be in the world, and make under 5 dollars an hour while living in horrific conditions alongside massive expenses from court.
Unapologetic slave labor sounds like a really necessary disincentive
@@irrelevantotaku I think they are referring to the prison industrial complex as a whole. Basically, referring to the private prisons and their owners and the politicians they collude with
@@irrelevantotaku seriously? It's not prisoners that make the money, it's others that make the money from prisoners. From companies that charge per prisoner, to fleecing prisoners by charging them, to using them as slave labor or low cost labor. Kamala Harris famously fought to keep people incarcerated because the state needed their labor. A judge conspired with a prison company to send teens to a private prison because he was receiving kickbacks. This is why punishing people should always be a burden on society.
@@irrelevantotakuokay I'd like to hear you sing this same time after falsely getting convicted
@@irrelevantotaku you completely misunderstood
As a member of the military, one thing that pisses me off about the cops is their insistence on larping as soldiers without actually going through the training for it
Unless you're Special Operations, your level of danger and risk of losing your life as a service member these days is lower than a cops.
@lamar_sepi0l WRONG. When we deploy even as support troops you can be mortared or rpg'd on base with ease. Cops act as if all US persons are not only a threat but ARE going to kill them and are currently aiming a firearm at them. If I or my brothers and sisters in arms aimed my weapon at an Iraqi (Only saying as an example) who is being sus af on base but not armed I'm about to get paperwork/jail time. You only aim your weapon at someone as a last resort and to kill them, not to threaten someone into doing your illegal request and if they don't they die and you get 4 weeks paid leave and no jail time.
@@lamar_sepi0lin 2022, 226 pigs died in the line of duty, an average on 1400 troops die yearly in the line of duty, 250 of those being self inflicted deaths. Please don't talk about things you have no idea about.
And where were you fighting again that really needed you to kill people? Where you needed to risk your life? Most people signing up to be soldiers are larping as soldiers too.
@@user-tf8xr8wc9u I didn't sign up to be a soldier or kill. I signed up to not live in poverty and be a farmer like my family before me for over 100 years. I killed noone but even us in the medical services get sent places that get bombed. Just so you know since you seem not to most of the military recruits are child "soldiers" who do it because we don't have many other options. I signed military papers at 16 years old friend. I am not proud of what I did but that is something I have to live with for the rest of my life.
I’m Cuban-White, but I’m painfully white passing. I had a friends mom in my car, turned out she was wanted and had $20 of H on her. She wouldn’t admit to it and I took the charge because my fiancé was also in the car and they were going to charge all of us for it.
That $20 bag of smack cost me $2500 and I still haven’t gotten it cleared from my record 4 years later. The cop who charged me even said he didn’t believe it was mine, but he said he had shit to do. Ain’t that fucking nice.
Oh and it was 4 hours away from where I lived, too, so I had to make 8 trips down and back at the height of Covid season.
I told police and sheriffs and court-ordered psychiatrists and all sorts of authority people that I was being abused by a man in my family from when I was a tweenager until my mid-twenties. I'm now 41 years old, I've been incarcerated only about two years of my life, total, for a few misdemeanors and minor things like that. As of writing this, my abuser has never spent a night behind bars in his life.
I'm still seeking justice, but I don't want the authorities who ignored me, or even my abuser, to go to jail. I just want the truth on the record. I was abused, victim-blamed, manipulated, cut-off from my family... but the worst things that happened to me were the couple months of incarceration here and there when I was an angry kid being angry. I won't wish that on anybody, especially not some 70 yr old dude who won't survive his sentence. We all mess up and we all deserve help.
American have to wake up to the reality of injustice in this nation and to the dangerous ideologies that threaten our democracy and humanity. This video was absolutely fantastic, well researched and delivered in the perfect voice. Keep up the good work!
From an outside perspective, the US seems like such a strange place: police with little to no training, a society with a strange kink for punishing people, and absolutely no rehabilitation for people caught up in the criminal "justice" system. It's absolutely insane.
It is truly awful.
Yea, pretty fucking odd from the outside in. Absolutely "normal" to most here.
Yes, but also police are horrific everywhere. It's just next level in the US.
I can relate to a lot of the things mentioned in this video, both as someone with white privilege and someone neglected, harmed, and endangered by police as a child.
And i live in Canada.
Altho, also, Canada is like, number 2, because our rich landlords (politicians), love copying as much as possible from American politics, especially capitalism.
@@cafesoftieyeah man can't think of a country where cops aren't shitty on some level. Giving a section of society the monopoly on violence just don't work
Don't forget those double standards
Dropping on 9/11 too? The balls on this man...
Fr I was like “Woah”
RUclips will bringing FD down like Building 7.
Came here to say this lol
Yeah, the 50th anniversary of the CIA instigated coup that overthrew a democratically elected government in Chile and installed the military junta of that butcher Pinochet.
Bruh I forgot it's 9/11
Honestly as a kid of immigrant parents and being the first generation of my family in America. You notice it almost right away especially when you are a POC immigrant or when you don’t speak English in itself. From very young I was always put in the impression to never get in a cops way, be in high alert and make yourself as less “suspicious” as possible. Basically cover your identity and act like what the system considers “ safe”. I’m 15 now and luckily never got into any police related altercations but some of my family has indeed and what the reason was for. It was simple and very profiling such as looking “like an illegal” “looking very suspicious” “ doing ____ disobedience” which would be absurd. My dad and uncle had to run for their lives because of immigration going into their work and basically deporting people that were working which didn’t have documentation on the spot. My mom already had a hiding spot on her first job just in case immigration ever came during work too.
Kid that's got to be a nightmare and exhausting. As a black man they can't deport me but they sure be ready to kill me.
I am a survivor of domestic abuse. My abuser has never faced consequences and never gone to trial because it would be a long, traumatising, and expensive process where I am forced to relive the worst year of my life just for a small chance that of person who hurt me going to jail. It is easier for me to live in a world where the person who hurt me is still out there and facing no consequences than one where I seek justice.
Pleasantly surprised there are way more people in the comments defending pigs than there are supporting cops.
“ACAB, just don’t bring the big eared, curly-tailed cuties into it 🐖”
It’s true, pigs are so much more than cops
just don't go into the replies... >_
It’s crazy that people are put through crazy conditions in prison with no rehabilitation and expect them to be functioning members of society.
That's because they AREN'T expected to become functioning members of society but repeat offenders
@@StonedHunteryep . It’s how they keep making money
I mean it's crazy that we imagine people will be rehabilitated when they get out and reintegrate into society at ALL, let alone when our stupid society says "oh btw also getting a job, loan, apartment, car, welfare, food stamps or anything is going to be 10x as difficult because specifically because you're an ex-con, good luck 👍"
The system is operating exactly as intended.
If the American government doesn't even help those they send to fight their wars, there's absolutely no hope for the carceral system in terms of therapy and rehabilitation. Broken people keep the broken system afloat: trauma is profitable under capitalist sentiments. It's all a revolving door.
the George Floyd section really got to me. I'm a black woman, and I want to go to every single protest against everything that opresses me. The problem is i have the biggest fear of either dying from rising up, or getting arrested for a crime that will never allow me to get a good paying job. I did not know that there were people who had to sit there and watch George die because of the unbearable fear of the policeman, and it just hurts that this is where we're at
That worthless dope feind killed himself by living the vile life he chose to live.
If you feel sorry for a parasite like that, it says a lot more about your morals and ethics than it does about anything else.
@@Hammerhead547Go home. Your mother is disappointed in you.
@@Hammerhead547L
@@Hammerhead547 you calling other people scum is deeply ironic
knowing how hateful youtube's community is, im shocked that these comments are so positive! To whoever might be moderating the comment section, keep up the good work and thank you for removing the braindead people who are driven by illogical hatred 💗
Other than simply watching videos, my knowledge of RUclips is pretty limited. Never needed any more. Your comment kind of concerned me, causing me to think someone is allowing some comments and not others. If that's the case, it has taken all the good, this video has potential for and turned it bad. Straight censorship. There are always 2 sides to anything, allowing one sides opinion and eliminating the other, is completely wrong. Hopefully these comments are all opinions, and just a few.
If people still see cops as bad then you’re just a bad cop, a good cop exist, ACAB is such an American concept
@@brianstephens1488 It isn't that deep. RUclips comments are most often one-sided on any video. But their opinions usually coincide with the opinions of the person who uploaded the video unless that person does or says something that betrays the beliefs of their audience. Because most people don't care to watch a video that reinforces an opinion/belief they don't agree with. It's kinda messed up to immediately assume there's censorship here. That just makes it seem like you never wanted to give the video a chance to begin with.
@@thewatcher7940He didn't immediately assume. Og commenter said that someone was removing "braindead comments" and he basically said, ~I didn't know that, that's messed up, they shouldn't do that~ in the kindest way possible.
I think you're the one who just doesn't don't want any defense of those aforementioned "braindead comments"
@@brianstephens1488 i dont think the mindless ramblings of white nationalists are worth arguing with, a lot of these ppl r inherently reactionary and care more about being right than actually having a proper debate and understanding the other side. those are the comments that are being deleted
If you ever want to get depressed, go into the comment of any online news article about poor prison conditions. People in this country are fully convinced that every criminal on earht is deserving of permanent torture
I don't think the popularity of fundamentalist Christianity in America is the only factor by any means, but that conceptualization of crime and punishment fits very well with any religion that believes Hell exists and is just.
@@michaelbenson5677 well the history of prisons in the US directly traces its lineage back to fundamentalist Christianity so...
@@----------............. let me ask you something: do you think pedophiles and child abusers make the conscious decision to be attracted to and predate upon children?
@@davidtaylor142predating upon children is very much a conscious decision on their part
@@yourdad3275 really? You think pedophiles are just regular people that are so evil that they just decide to hurt children? There's nothing wrong with them at all? They're just "bad guys"?
The cops who refused to take my report traumatized me more than the assault itself. I only called them because emergency rooms kept turning me away. The whole situation was a terrible farce. Thank you for raising awareness.
Stay strong. I hope you are seeing a psychologist. It is disgusting how people treat victims. People should take this seriously everytime. Even if there is an incredibly small minority who fake being a victim (my understanding is that almost no lies about this), they should be taken seriously as well, better to be on the side of peoples' well being then on whatever the fuck those people are on the side of.
Sending you love and support. Hope you’re okay now
I’m a unique exception to your audience. I am an upper class white lawyer. However, I was born into poverty, was in and out of the foster system, and my parents were in and out of jail as a kid. I also worked as a public defender for 9 years and tried my best to mitigate the horrid nature of the system.
A thought for future discussion on this topic: prosecutors have more authority than cops and are equally if not more corrupt and more racist as an institution- especially in the south. Yet they’re never talked about. My prosecutor counterparts would froth at the mouth to send poor addicts to the “human warehouse upstate” (actual quote on record from a prosecutor- judge didn’t bat an eye). I have watched them justify videos of police brutalizing people and they prosecute crimes when it’s proven on video that the cops are lying.
I’d love there to be more examination of this problem in the system. The public defender system is always critiqued and discussed, cops are discussed and law enforcement, but I’d love to see the prosecutor system examined.
This is a really a important perspective that I've never heard of before! It seems as though you are in a good position to shed light on it. Have you considered writing/speaking on the subject yourself? It sounds like you've seen a lot of it first-hand.
Damn I want to look into this more
Word!! I'm also a college drop out. I had an undiagnosed mental illness. Professors would ask me why I had problems with the consistency of work on my papers, often begrudgingly giving me A's and discussing my perspective in classrooms. My work was sometimes great and other times so bad that they tried to say I was lazy and plagarizing. No matter how hard i tried, I always met with the same challenges to get earned reapect. I had to move to a new state later, because of a sick family member and at that college I was told to show proof of my mental illness or I would be viewed as making it up to get out of doing homework and kicked out of class, no matter if the professor was just basic and boring. I even had a professor announce to the class that I likely did not have a mental illness and people like me just want to get out of things, which I believe is against HIPAA, but no one challenged it. Colleges are beholden to a different jurisdiction, which is the problem with rape cases on campus. This is after that professor told me I had a promising future in writing, but then talked to my old professors who said I always had a plagiarizing thing that they couldn't prove. After all the abuse for which these professors likely took classes on educational psychology and why students don't do well and how to help them, I left with the realization that in my history classes that leaned toward Marxist ideology and what I believe, had not taken into the account of the marginalization of mentally ill pelple, like me. I would never have a voice in academia, because no one would trust me. Because, the institution and academia of history does not focus on the individual as part.of the institution, but instead society, which I believed, too, at that time. Its a problem with the teaching of history and needs to be corrected. I also know that anyone can become educated without buying into the indoctrination of actually marginalizing the very real understanding of how people process information. I feel it's an oxymoron, because it omits agency of the individual and variety of voices. Why we need to have diplomas from a university is beyond me. We just need good mentoring and be able to show we can do the work.
I lived in Germany and in their universities, you aren't graded per class, you're graded at the end in a large comprehensive test. Education is free and you only pay for the final test. This overly institutionaized belief that everything must have a diploma marginalizes a lot of people. I only had a couple classes left and it hurts to not be included in an education that made my life so much better, but I'd rather not support the institution when so many of us are silenced. If you want respect in academia, you publish, but no one wants the view of a mentally ill person no matter how intellectual. I couldn't find not one professor that thought I had a chance in academia, because to them I was a fraud.
I had a stalker some years ago, someone i was friends with at one point . He sent violent emails to me, even stating that he would "go somewhere with a lot of people and do something horrific" if i didnt call him. He also detailed how hed be intimate with me, telling me that i must know that were meant to be together, that im being delusional and running from true love. Just crazy sh**.
I brought it all to the police and they told me that there was nothing they could do bc, "women get restraining orders and run back to their exes all the time." Uh what? Explained over and over that no actually that was never gonna happen in any universe and it definitely didnt happen in this one, but they believed HIS RAUNCHY EMAILS over me bc he said he loved me. Like okay and did you not even read the parts about murdering people or me?? Not gonna use some common sense and realize theres something kind of WRONG here??
It was my first interaction with them, when i felt that i needed their protection. They failed miserably.
They wait until someone is killed/ before its too late before they start acting doing something. The most useless profession I swear.
Sorry to hear that. I don't know what sort of people take up this work for them to behave this way.
I've been detained, I'm a white guy of relative privilege like you've said. My parents were homeless for a small time while I was in high school and we were sleeping in a car. Because we were in a Walmart parking lot, police came and detained us. I still wake up panicked if I hear something that sounds like a knock on the window. This is the lightest, most basic interaction with the police I've ever heard of and it has traumatized me for life. Police are not a cure for crime, they are an occupying militia that has declared war on poor and minorities. ACAB
I’m sorry about the PTSD you were given by those society had designed as an authority figure when you a vulnerable minor.
You should blame more than just the cops for that scenario, no? The law for making it illegal to sleep in a private lot, society for not providing for the homeless... Cops aren't occupying anything. They're here on invitation. So look at who is inviting them.
@@CarrotConsumerand cops agree to obey it
More than 10 years ago I suffered a Gran mal seizure. My husband called 911 and at the time, I was belted up in the passenger seat of my car. When the first officer came, she ripped me from the seat and insisted on handcuffing me because I was non compliant. I don't remember much except from when I was coming around already at the hospital, and I learned that she had dislocated my left shoulder. She claimed that I was having an overdose. But the lab reports from all my blood tests showed that she was wrong. I spoke with several lawyers and only one was willing to take the case. All I got was a lousy $7500 for a lifelong issue that causes me pain (physical and mental).
@@lisarodriguez6966 That's so crazy, but I can believe it! What a dumb cop!! I'm so sorry for you.
I think for most white people it's tough to reconcile the reality that in many ways we're directly contributing to a system that we're barely aware of because it makes us specifically feel "safe". This was a tough watch because it's easy for someone like me to sit here and say we need to 'reform' and 'fix' the institutions that we've been manipulated into believing are essential while impoverished people are suffering on our taxpayer dollars. This is a fucking incredible video and it really destroys the whole notion that the police system has any real benefit to modern American society, and it's completely opened my eyes to just how disgustingly privileged I am to be benefitting off of the suffering of minority groups in this country.
For those who don't know, we Americans like to brag a lot in schools about how we fixed society. MLK is packaged as the guy who ended racism in America and the whole "I have a dream" speech is considered in American education to be a reality. We don't learn about the Detroit riots, or the history of policing as an extension of slavery or even the ramifications of the 13th amendment. We're lying to our children about how we're all singing Kumbaya and celebrating diversity until we get old enough to realize nothing's really changed. We're living the same cycles of brutality we have been for centuries because the system still profits from punishment and social engineering instead of actually addressing the root causes of crime and poverty.
Phenomal video. Can't wait to check out your other stuff.
The thumbnail of this video went through an entire character arc.
Hopefully this is the one that unlocks it's full potential
The simple fact is rapists and murderers ARENT IN OUR JAILS. We have over 2 MILLION AMERICANS INCARCERATED and WE KNOW that rapists get away with it 99% of the time because of how poorly police treat victims of violent crime. I’ve only ever reported my own sa 1 time because the police told me (a 14 year old boy) that I would have to wear a wire and put myself in the dangerous person’s presence again. I couldnt do it and felt guilty for years that person would go on to sa more children, but when I found out I was the 3rd underage person to report the same predator, and realized it was never my burden or fault to bear. This system protects rapists, abusers, and violent criminals. They will only lock up black and brown people for things that shouldnt even be crimes, rather than face reality and confront the real perpetrators of violence. I’ve been a police and prison abolitionist for years now so seeing more and more people talking about how a real sustainable future might be possible through these conversations helps keep my head up.
You also bring up a good point as to the patriarchal system not protecting boys and men, their own if you will, from s.a. Simultaneously, throwing this "those feminists don't care about male victims" idea to the wolves that puts these issues back again to a binary fight. The amount of places I've worked and volunteered at and known about to help d.v. folks had almost no cis-het men who even worked there or with the programs. We need the society at large to understand that patriarchy is upholding this interpersonal violence for all people, regardless their gender.
Or most rapists get away with it because rape is a difficult crime to prove. We would expect this even with a perfect policing and justice system.
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how horrible it is that i was relieved to hear ben went to prison, only because i was so heavily expecting to hear he'd been killed by police. f the police.
I was too! I was totally expecting that .. like I was steeling myself for the news. I was so certain that's what was coming. I guess it's better he "only" had to lose ten full years of his life for something that was admittedly wrong, but something that the victim no doubt was able to recover from in a relatively short period of time and move on with their life.
What I don't understand is how they sentenced him as an adult when he was 17. Guess the DA and the judge collaborated together as they always do to make sure the poor black kid got absolutely no leniency FOR A FIRST OFFENSE AS A YOUTH.
You gotta love the sadists and racists who control the courts.
That makes us 3. God what have we been conditioned to believe.
I was already starting to tear up, almost screamed when I saw him on zoom, glad to know that all in all he’s still striving forwards
@@WindowsXP_logon_sound_25yrsagoit was an armed robbery homie
@@token2471 was anyone shot? Was any violence used? I'm not saying it's okay but we all make poor decisions. He was only 17. He was probably peer-pressured. Should have been six months juvie with an apology to the victim not 10 years. That obviously violates the constitutional protection against cruel or unusual punishment like everything else in our system today. The Constitution is just toilet paper to judges, cops and DA's today. And you know they tried him as an adult even though he was 17 and this was his first offense.
But you can't subjugate tens of thousands of poor black people without long mandatory minimums. It's all about keeping a permanent underclass. Keeping that hard nazi boot of the State on the neck of people from groups that certain people in high places don't like.
I don't know about you but at 41 I make a hell of a lot better decisions and have more mature thinking processes than I did at 17.
If he had been a white kid from the burbs he probably would have got 3 mos. If he was the judge's kid nothing would have happened at all.
I mean shit we could just have the death penalty for everything which is what I'm sure some people would love, but would that really be just???? Talk about the efficiency tho.
I'm privileged, i will admit that. Im a white woman in a middle class family but I have also been arrested and gone to court. I didn't do time as I was 14 years old and the crime was labeled as unserious enough but the experience and way those small town North Jersey cops treated me will always traumatize me. It was creepy and scary in so many ways. Im clean now and have been since then im 20, and still get profiled as "one of the bad ones" (literal quote from one of the cops who arrested me) which is fucked on so many levels. After that I avoided going to the police to report my physically abusive ex who SAed and r*ped me because I was scared of how they would react and then treat me.
Watching the whole segment about Ben was fucking rough. I felt so bad for that child who was incarcerated. When I saw the conversation between you and him after he got out of prison I was in floods of tears. You're a good person, FD. I just want you to know that. Thank you for everything that you do, and just for being you.
I was almost stabbed to death in my complex last month by some random person who didn’t live there; I fended him off with my own blade, recorded video of the attack which showed his face, and I called Pico Rivera Sheriff’s station immediately and made a report. I gathered info on who the guy could’ve been from people who’ve seen him before around the complex, spoke to the people he was visiting and got info on him and handed it in; after two weeks of them saying nothing to me they bring me into the station to have me ID a bunch of randos, none of whom look literally anything like the person in my evidence, so after telling them that none of these are him and asking if they followed any of my leads they basically almost chuckled as they said “no” and then politely told me to go fuck myself.
For context, I’m a white male homeowner whose condo complex is gated; the only thing that even puts a dent in my privilege is my Bisexuality. They don’t give a shit about literally anybody and will go out of their way to not do anything about anything even if you basically hand them a roadmap to your assailant. They explained it to me in such a way that made it seem like they want me to go Red Dead Redemption mode and bring ‘em in myself.
They are *_EXCLUSIVELY_* here to punish and harm you. They are not here to help *_ANYBODY_* except themselves. They are a gang, they are the antithesis of order, and they have to be dismantled.
Sounds about right. I got hit on a sidewalk and was pinned between the car and a bollard in a hit and run. They never took any statements, no witness report, they did absolutely nothing and they wanted to close the case two days later because of "no evidence". I got angry and asked a friend to go down the street and check for CCTV and they got footage. We gave that to the police and they bemoaningly reopened the case. They went on to do absolutely nothing, even after finding the guy, because he was a rich local and I was a stupid Eastern European immigrant. All I got was a permanent injury, loss of income and months of pain. Thank you, police!
They couldn't care less and you better not put them to work or they'll start loosing their patience with you.
Thats fucking terrifying, glad you managed to survive
This is exactly why people are drawn to gangs; your odds of getting jumped skyrocket when you're alone and get caught lacking. Yet gang the mentality is still constantly stigmatized.
@@NathanHoff96 i remember being nearly mugged twice in the same year when i was in middle school, the time when i with someone i remember being more capable of thought and function and was able to escape. The time i was alone they let me off for whatever reason and mocked my hair.
Both were over a scooter i used to take to school to save on transportation costs(NY kid) it was a heavy duty thing and much nicer than a razer. The experiences deeply effected the way i moved thrpugh the city and interacted with those around me for a long time. It's rough being alone, even harsher when you're in a hazardous situation; i can empathize with the need to make oneself feel strong when it feels like the world is telling you you're weak.
Sorry that BS happened to you, dude. The world lies... alot, but this world is a co-op only game. Single players get singled out.@@tariqdanzig3621
Been arrested a few times. The first time, my wife hyperventilated and passed out and the cop threatened to call an ambulance despite repeatedly being told that wasn't necessary and we couldn't afford it. It was terrifying to think that the cop went from "hey, why are you walking in this neighborhood" to "if you don't wake that woman up I will subject you to medical debt" as a fucking THREAT.
When a couple of friends of mine got mugged and used my phone to call the cops, the cops were hostile to all of us for visible Queerness. The cops did fuck-all, other than make us feel even more unsafe.
The idea of avoiding calling for medical aid because you can't afford it - and that then being used as a threat by a 'public servant' is absolutely horrifying. I am so sorry that happened to you.
Pigs are such natural scum aren't they???????
@YourCapybaraAmigo_17yrsago it wouldn't be the UK as its free to call an ambulance here, so it can never be used as a threat
@@DylanJaco that's true ....
@DylanJaco@@WindowsXP_logon_sound_25yrsago It was in Texas, a little over 20 years ago. Ambulances have gotten A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE in the interim.
I live in Seattle, and the main issue amongst polls was an increase in crime. This has resulted in a large number of people voting in new centrists that promise to provide more money towards police recruiting, meanwhile they're also discussing shutting down and consolidating public schools, and have no solid plan to increase affordable housing. It's extremely disappointing when plenty of research has shown what actually improves crime rates, but people just fall back on hiring more cops as some attempt at a quick fix.
Good point
I swear I will always have my blood boil when people say that cops are what keep us safe and that all those who ended up in jail are serving what they deserve no matter the treatment to the point of the death penalty. I have heard of many people being killed for things that later on were innocent of. If those criminals dressed in uniforms did their jobs there wouldn’t be any bad treatment or people having their lives ruined over such ridiculous things. My dad had gotten stopped by the police and searched for “looking like a cholo” he had his head shaved and jean shorts on. My cousin was 3 at the time and was crying her lungs out because she thought my dad was going to jail. If a three year old is so afraid of the people we call the law then why are we sitting here saying they do what best serves us. For showing up and just being there. Sit a moment and think about that
I had an acquaintance, a young man I once worked with. He had told me that he applied to be a police officer but had been let go before completing training. He said he did well academically but had exhibited too much empathy for the public and showed a tendency to "work reasonably" with people rather than immediately crack skulls. I guess he was too nice to be a cop. That confirmed for me a few thoughts I'd always had about cops.
The society we live in is sick. It constantly deprives its citizens, putting them into dire straits, encouraging mental illness, fear, anger, and despair. It will incarcerate and victimize people who need help, creating a self-generating cycle of crime and punishment.
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You have it EXACTLY 👏🏾 The prison industrial complex is a self-perpetuating system, rooted in slavery, for the profit of the owning class.
It hinders and detracts from our society. It does not help or add to it.
Predatory capitalism functioning as intended.
I agree, I simply disagree with the nonsense such as defunding the law enforcement, which is not a smart or logical idea and will only lead to a spike in violent crime especially towards women who will be left completely vulnerable and are more so now than ever and it will only get worse. It will lead to gangs ruling the streets. Pick your poison. Instead you would need to get rid of the corruption which trinkles down from the top, and that my friends means overthrowing this government and establishing a new one which... just so happens to be a constitutional right that everyone seems to have forgotten about or are simply too scared to take on the few in power that have been empowered by the masses... do the math, the odds ain't in their favor
alternatively he did absolutely fucking horrible and decided to make up a story that is less embarrassing and puts himself on a pedestal
i don't think you should let subjective information form your opinion on anything since that could be anything from the complete truth to 100% made in china fabrication on top of the fact that it paints you as one of those people who look at a news headline and trust it entirely as if its gospel when doing the smallest amount of research disproves every subjective claim
i can rant on and on about me hating x or y but it doesn't matter when you realize that you're basing an entire opinion around outliers lol
hopefully more naive people don't read this
I’m a pretty young white guy living with his well off parents and this video has really helped me come to terms with the current system of oppression. Despite some personal experiences with 1 cop in particular who saved my life back when I was considering taking mine, no cop I’ve seen in my life has ever remotely cared about helping people, and that 1 cop retired early because he hated the police system. We’re friends to this day.
What I find ironic is that I often talk to white men (especially fellow vets) that talk openly and passionately about not being a boot licker and the willingness to fight the government. They lament on how police are used to enforce bad policies that infringe on civil liberties. However, this only ever seems to apply to federal law enforcement; hardly ever to state and never local law enforcement. I'm not sure where the dissidence comes from (probably from political propaganda) but I'm disheartened that my conservative leaning brothers can't see how this is not serving BOTH of us and that we need to unify on these policing and ultimately policy issues.
I am someone who has been to jail, I've altered my life to spend it covering criminal justice maters, and while I was doing that my little sister was ripped from her apartment door by a rapist, who raped her in the woods outside of her apartment. Her case is ongoing, and her dealings with prosecutors have traumatized her nearly as much as the initial attack.
My apartment was directly across form her stair well when the attack occurred. I was woken up by police, who had me search for my sister's phone in pouring rain that was thrown into the woods by her rapist. That was how I learned she had been attacked. I then went to the hospital to meet her.
After all of that, I struggle with this issue so much. Her attacker, who is 100% guilty, who literally raped her in the woods and has DNA evidence proving it, has refused all plea agreements, which forces my sister, the victim, to look him in the face in a room full of people she does not know and describe in explicit detail how he raped her. She is terrified of the trial. She didn''t asked to be raped, to damn near be choked to death in the woods, and then have to give depostiions, and then have to speak about it in front of a crowd of people.
She told me recently, "I did not ask for this. I did not asked to become a "victim" who has to explain how he raped me. I did not ask for my life to put on hold until this (the trial) is over. I did not do anything to deserve this."
And she didn't. The man who raped her had already been to prison for battering his girlfriend. Before he raped my sister, he abducted another girld, through her in a car, and she jumped out while it was moving. Then he stalked my sister's apartment complex, snuck up behind her and threw her to the ground by her neck when she tried to unlock her door and walk in. After the rape, she walked into the apartment and met her roommates, naked and covered in dirt, just sobbing.
What should happen to the man that did this? How do we confront it? I never thought it would happen to "us." To my sister.
Man, I can't even say how many times I've sobbed about this. It's horrible.
These kinds of crimes, that my sister suffered, are extremely difficult to confront. That said, almost all of the people I see on a daily booking log at the local jail are arrested because they failed to appear at a court hearing, they failed a drug test, etc. I ended up in jail because of an undiagnosed mental health disorder. I don't have any answers. My experience in jail was traumatizing. My sister's experience as a victim of a heanous (unbelievably horribly crime, she was almost choked to death) is awful.
Everytime I see a video like this in my feed my heart rate jacks. I finally watched this after ignoring it repeatedly because I could not handle watching this subject. Right when it posted, my sister visited me because it was the 2-year anniversary of her attack. She did not want to be alone on that date. While visiting, she broke down. She's someone who has always felt that prisons should be abolished. And yet, she is a victim of a damn near homicide, a brutal rape, and the system has deeply traumatized her in her search for justice.
I don't have a point in this comment. It just hurts. The whole thing. That is all.
This is too detailed. I have very strong suspicions about you
Thank you for sharing this…my heart goes out to you
I'm so sorry. Please tell your sister she is so strong for me. You'll both get through this, I know it.
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so if prisons should be abolished where should her rapist be placed? to live amongst society?
Everyone please remember to download/screen record this video if you want to re-experience it in its (non-Nebula) original state, before FD does the inevitable dance of taking down and re-releasing this video to placate the algorithm.
RUclips got FD tweaking his videos more than Kanye did The Life of Pablo
Tech Fam:
What’s the best way on desktop Mac OS to screen capture With Audio?
ty for the reminder i can already watch it on nebula. 💙 i am very dumb and forget a lot. 😅
Honestly I'm just gonna support him on nebula because it's only $2.50 that's a steal but otherwise I agree
@@ExtremeEnthusiast704 Capture of momentarily available streaming video is a broader matter with various important applications (other than not relying on something being eternally available in its exact current form).
For example, a lot of the preserved documentation of the 1/6 insurrection attempt was harvested as part of a rapid crowdsourced effort to suck up as much of participants’ Parler platform video posts as possible Before they were mostly deleted over the next 12-36 hours. That publicly (but briefly) published content was then aggregated into an open source reference archive available for all of us citizens, a resource which went on to be available to congressional and law enforcement investigations of the attempt to smother the democratic will of the people.
So some people have just acquired a general instinct to grab a personal copy of things that might not last forever, even when they’re paid subscribers of that thing. After all, why obligate someone else to preserve it for you in perpetuity?
(this habit of capturing the ephemeral probably goes back to when we’d xerox borrowed zines and pamphlets and rare books, dub speeches or radio discussions on cassette tape, and copy precious vhs resources. the underground has to keep its own distributed library, its own distributed historical record, with no single point of failure to be attacked)
just a thought…
That's actually a fact though...
I grew up poor and am a white person in TN and the closest I’ve been to jail is being fingerprinted but let me tell you the smugness these officers walked around with seriously made me angry like they’re the presidents of their own concrete island. I’ve seen these people harass homeless people for no good reason other than they “took away from” the aesthetic of the alley, to which businesses praised them for doing it. If they’re not required to protect people then they’re useless. Content like this helps me remember I’m going in the right direction when everyone else around me is drooling over boots. Thank you for your dedication to educating all of us ❤
I have a graduate degree in a criminal justice related field. My professors would always tell all their students to never trust police, but then turn around and spout the same thin blue line propaganda. This led most of my classmates to read the same research for class that you make accessible to the public here, but then decide that they want to work for the police or the FBI, or similar organizations. The cognitive dissonance was truly astounding to me.
Anytime cops show up to my school and talk about their job my first thought is always 40% of cops
For anyone that needs context a study stated that 40% of cops have been arrested and or exposed for domestic abuse and seeing how the law system is the other 60% probably haven’t been caught
@@_INKY_THE_IDIOTsource?
@@RickyWatter32 google
@@RickyWatter32 look for this "Police and Violence at Home: What The Numbers Say" by andrew burmon, he quotes the survey from years back when the cops would still cooperate with such scrutiny.
My dad was a cop and I loved him. But he fit that 40% stereotype and taught me to never trust cops.
I remember a few years ago when a SWAT team got the wrong address for a raid and threw a flash bang grenade through a window that landed in a baby’s crib and badly burned the baby inside. The family that lived there was not black. I think they were white, but maybe hispanic.
So it blows my mind when white people and middle class people defend the cops without question. You’re not safe just because you’re white and middle class. All it takes is one wrong address and they’re kicking down your door and tossing a grenade in your baby’s crib. All it takes is getting the state abbreviation wrong reading your license plate and they’re rolling up on you with guns drawn. All it takes is a cop blindly firing their gun in a TJ Maxx and you’re catching that bullet in the dressing room because they’re a bad shot and poorly trained. What if you’re driving from the bank with $2000 withdrawn for a perfectly fine reason and a cop stops you, sees the money, decides it’s drug related because it’s cash, and you’re a victim of civil forfeiture?
I’m not safe just because I’m white and middle class. Nobody’s safe from a screwup with a badge and a gun.
White woman chiming in here to say you’re absolutely correct. Our race won’t save us from fascists. There is no reason to not show solidarity
That SWAT thing is a dumb argument. You're talking about something that happened once and are now making a public PSA about it as if the SWAT team is kicking down doors every hour. I don't where you live but where I'm at that never happens. So I think the more pressing issue is why your neighbors are getting SWAT'd so much that it makes you have a negative opinion of the police
@@Kyrid happened once? buddy there are plenty of swat and wrongful arrests happening all the time. one happened recently. i mean, Breonna Taylor? Dallas swat in 2022? that one family on the highway like a month ago they held at gun point?
@@Kyrid Bro not only does this kind of thing happen all the time where it's just a cop fuck up but "SWAT"ing where someone calls in a fake tip that sends the SWAT to your house is also very possible, you can probably look up compilations of streamers getting raided because their address got doxxed
Bro what are you talking about? Cops can't civilly seize money without a nexus of crime, you have to go back to like 2018 for the flashbang story. What personal experience do you have with police? Are you sure you aren't just programmed?
I'm a black man and a police officer and I am scared of the police. Even when I'm at work
You’re a black policeman?
Oh no man
ACAB
@@LoopyLemon775 ?
"'Potential' is not a prerequisite for basic humanity" BARS
I'm not from the US but I know a bunch of people who were arrested for peacefully protesting and half of the boys in my class had criminal records because they smoked or got into a fight and were too poor to "buy forgiveness" under the table. Ever since I was a child I knew the police aren't your friends. They came to schools with dogs and promised us that if we go to protest they'll arrest us and we'll never be able to go to universities. There were countless records of them putting drugs in people's cars, homes and even pockets while searching. And don't get me started on the way they react when someone reports SA or DA. Being a woman who grew up in a low-income neighborhood really makes you panic every time you see someone in uniform.
The police suck here in Argentina, there's some abuse and some real criminals get away through the justice system, but shit like that will almost always be dealt with in the moment by the cops basically. My friends have had interactions like that and unless you're a drug dealer they dgaf. The only person that actually got into jail was a guy that killed someone In a fight after the club, like, THATS when you go to jail , people don't really get records for stupid shit
Wow that's really a shame. Do you feel comfortable saying where you live?
And that sucks. We know. But all we can do is try to grow a movement, because that and straight up violence are the only things that work
@@Virjunior01 Yeah, go ahead and try that city boi
I'm assuming it was just coincidence, but my headcanon says you chose this day to publish to reclaim it from the pigs. I approve
Man...I'm now only halfway through the video, but you have opened my eyes and changed my views. I'm not even American, but you can find this system everywhere in the world.
genuinely, thank you and anyone else vocal on these issues for your bravery. one of the most terrifying ideas to me is the thought that if i or others i love might be too effective in their advocacy, it could very well be a death sentence
i am aware it sounds extreme, but consider what happens to literally any revolutionary action which grows too successful
I've been handcuffed several times, assaulted by police (how many times, i've lost count), hospitalized by police (essentially a jail for someone they cannot determine has actually committed a crime). Most assaults/incidents with the police happened when I wasn't old enough to be in highschool. I was never arrested nor "caught" for a crime but you DO NOT have to be a so-called criminal to have a bad experience with them. i was advocating to abolish the police when i was a kid, before i even knew the word abolish i knew i wanted them gone. when I was a victim of crimes in my life, the police have NOT ONCE prosecuted the individual(s) committing said crimes. Not even pursued them.
Hey, I not only know but lived with formerly incarcerated individuals.
Contrary to popular belief, these people are not the thugs they're portrayed to be.
If anything, they're some of the smartest folks I ever seen and had the privilege to learn from.
Thank you for this man. You're one of the best this platform has to offer.
Yep my wife is a felon and she helped numerous women get their GED/High school diploma. Inmates really have a higher reading level than the general public. All inmates are required to at least read at an 8th grade level and all inmates must have a high school diploma or equivalent.
There are some programs for those that want the help but for the most part rehabilitation is treated as a joke. A lot of People shouldn't be there in the first place, people need help up not punishment, especially the poor.
@@Earlydoors272My wife was a victim of being wrongly convicted. Imagine being innocent, the cops arrest you and lie to you and the judge, delete evidence of their wrongdoing, and while you're at trial any defense you might have gets tossed out because the judge, prosecution, and cops are in bed together. Society will always see her as a criminal. This happens more often than you think and I hope no one ever has to be in that situation.
I'm sorry to hear that you had a terrible thing happen to you and your family. I hope you can have healing and closure/justice.
Look at the pot calling the kettle black, a whole lot of projecting you're doing here.
The people I'm talking about were framed. But you clearly know everything so please, impart your wisdom on me some more.@@Earlydoors272
Exactly, dude came in here with the narrative already lined up.@@DrFeelGood96
Bruh just ignore them. They're either a bot or as stupid as a bot, either way you too good for them. Respect your time and have a wonderful day. :) @@WhizPill
My experience is when I need them to do something, their hands are tied. But when they have to do something to me. Up as many charges as possible and make me look bad as possible.
I’m white and I got accosted by the police when I was 14-15 because my family member was trying to punch and kick me but I took them down and held them on the floor. The police showed up but instead of asking the drunk bastard why he was trying to kick the shit out of me they threatened me and put me in cuffs for not putting up with abuse. It really made me wonder what’s going on with these officers?
I’m black, and I’ve been pulled over SOOOOOO MANY TIMES. I tell people of other races and they do not believe me. It’s always some fuck shit that my car looked like one that was recently stolen, or I match a suspect, or my tail light was out, or some don’t even tell me why the pull me over, but EVERY TIME I’ve EVER been pulled over, I am ALWAYS searched. I have a book worth of stories I could give you but I’ve NEVER had a good interaction with police
I'm a black female and my BF is White. He got stopped for no seatbelt. The officer tells ME to put my hands out of the window and runs MY name meanwhile the white driver with NO insurance gets to just drive away. No ticket or anything
White man and I’ve had a lot of black friends ride in my car with me and have been pulled over and had the cop wanting to search my vehicle and was given worse punishments where as other times I would have maybe gotten a “warning” or just a ticket
@@larae6885Yeah I remember a white colleague drove my Haitian friend to the railway station and they stopped her car and barely interacted with her after that, completely focussing on him when all he was doing was trying to go home.
I'm 29 and white and I'll say it, yes police as a whole are racist. As a whole, black people are their main target. Not all cops but many and as a whole, most. I lived next door to a cool officer and we talked about deep situations and gave each other company. The one thing he hates about being a cop is the racist environment, what they train you to look out for the most, and they embed it in the cops since day one. He said no, not all. But most are and said most are racist to begin with so they have no issue targeting black people. Not every single one, but most are racist and masons. Look up the Masons history to the kkk. Yep
Meanwhile I've only had good interactions with the police, because I am white and speak french while living in Quebec. The moment I see the cop is white and francophone, I know I'm getting off with a warning (or at the most a fine) and so I had no real personal issue with police until I realized that me and my white friends had been skating by drunk driving without licenses and shoplifting while my black friends got ID'd for smoking a joint on their own balcony in a legal province. I've never hesitated to call the police for help and feel safe when I see them patrolling, and it's absolutely abhorent that half the population in my region is made to feel the opposite way, to fear authority and avoid this instituation that's supposed to serve and protect the people.
I am a disabled white woman and I am terrified of the police. I learned that lesson early, when I was in 7th grade and tried to commit suicide. It really annoyed a cop that was supposed to be going off shift but he had to come deal with me instead.
when i worked at cvs in the pharmacy, i still remember when a cop came to ask about something over the counter for bug bites because he was in a field for hours after a call about a young man attempting suicide. he said if the man had “actually done it” he wouldn’t have gotten chewed up by mosquitoes for two hours. i was standing at the register convinced i had heard him wrong. i literally did not know what to say.
What does your disability have to do with this? Did I miss something?
@@thefridge7335 I experienced callousness and cruelty from the cops while I was still relatively well. Now I have multiple issues thatbmean they can even more easily harm me with their actions than it would take to injure someone else. The prospect is terrifying.
@@thefridge7335i cant speak to the specific person, theyve answer you.
As a profrssional, it creates a cycle of trauma.
Police are the first to be called on most cases of mental illness crisis, specially first contacts.
If their are callous, and ive never seen or heard of an experience that at least one, often most, of the present are, it leads to violence situation(may be physical but verbal always happens)
This causes trauma in the disabled person which means that now everytime they fear a crisis because police will be cause which triggers the trauma which worsens their state.
This often happens on non neurodivergent people, but gets maximised for diabled people and compounded for neurodivergency
@@thefridge7335 you have to understand that life is usually and more than often both parties having some foul, however police create crime. They use tactics and methods that encroach and they create conflict with escalation. Not to mention many police departments have confirmed gangs in them and the FBI and such "say" they deal with it but they do not. On top of that when police commit acts of brutality they can apply to the next district over. I could go on and on about foul acts against humanity, from Sandra bland, to the murder of Oscar Grant. It is totally obvious that much of law enforcement must be reformed or restructured.
Seeing the titles of this video shift is fascinating and disheartening. You Rock, FD, thank you for doing what you do.
33:11 "They Live" is such a underrated masterpiece
i grew up in a abusive household and i called the police a few times but they basicly brushed it off and on the third call said they would now have to press charges on my family member if i called again. as a young teen i wasnt going to do that. they basicly told me dont call again. im 22 now and going through therapy i never told anyone what was going on and im just now realising how much a life of that environment scrambled me up
If you wanted help, why didn't you let them charged them?
@@hmmm2564 in those situations its tough. id lived under the same roof as them they are family after all type thing. also taking legal action at the age of 14 is kinda crazy. its not a decision i was ready to make myself. youve gotta realise how shattered my confidence levels were too. below bedrock. its just a rough situation. alot of weight comes with giving someone a criminal record.
@@----------............. some areas deal with abuse differently. Its more about station culture than anything. Some are working hard and do try to protect and serve, other ones care more about meeting a quota and doing the least amount of work to get there. I really don’t understand why so many people are laying so much doubt when these people are being vulnerable with these sensitive stories. I know so many people who grew up in abusive households and the police never did anything. That doubt you’re trying to press on is exactly what these police do trying to act like all they want is the truth.
@@hmmm2564 the climate around child abuse has changed dramatically in the last 10-15 years. Its taken much more seriously now. I don’t know how old this person is, but its likely they grew up before they started taking it seriously. Filing a suit against your parents when you’re a child is an insane expectation. Not to mention how the police can send the kid home if they don’t believe them which can make the abuse even worse.
@@----------............. deliberately misunderstanding people and using anecdotal claims to support a broad policy. What a surprise.
I worked in the oil field a couple of years ago. It was a job that was considered easy to get. It was me. A white guy from a lower middle class background, and a group of black folks who mostly had gotten out of prison. They talked to me a lot. The word "ally" left their lips in regards to me. Not because i read a bunch of theory or black literature. Not because I marched beside them. But because they said I was the first white person most of them met who was willing to listen to them. They taught me a lot. I got a different perspective on the world than I normally would have just sitting in the break room and talking without judgement. I was working there when George Floyd died, and they gave me a piece if advice i carry with me when I see black people going forward: There are things about the experiences in your life that you can't tell white people. They have been taught to see you as a monster, and, whether they know it or not, most white people have been trained to treat you as such the moment you break character around them.
Conversations like that and watching your videos made me realize just how much i have grown and need to grow as a person.
The things I learned working there made me see my friends and coworkers' faces whenever the police brutalize people. It's wrong on levels I will never be able to comprehend, and people like you giving the world information the way you do is the only pathway I've seen towards true justice. So thank you.
You did what many of us white folks who claim to read books failed to do lol.
Good on you, bro.
Amen.
I've never known racism until my family & I migrated to the US.
My wonderful interaction with the police began when I was 13 years old. I was bruised from head to toe. When the sheriff's deputies arrived, I BEGGED them for help.
I was laughed at & was told I probably deserved it.
Skip to when I was 17 --- I was "attacked" by group of men. I called the cops as soon as I managed to get away.
I ended up getting arrested for being the "wrong color" for the neighborhood.
(I've been arrested in white & black community as a result of racial profiling)
At 18 -- I was constantly pulled over & harassed by the Kenosha PD because they wanted to "see the face behind the name" (per verbatim).
At one time, I locked myself out of my house. Someone called the cops.. (perfectly understandable).
I was faced with NUMEROUS cops with assault rifles aimed at my head. (Again Kenosha PD -- WI)
I've had too many cops approach me with their hands on their firearm. (I've never been violent nor do I have any record of being violent) Cops scare me to death.
I can be out south (Southside of Chicago) & my buddies will go out of their way to hide ME. They all know it's nothing but bs if the cops see me (and no they don't know me or anything.. it's my skin color) My best bud (who is black) will go out of his way to distract the cops because their focused is generally on me, not him.
I'm in my mid 40's. In all these years, I've had *1 single* good interaction with a cop near grand rapid, MI.
My children fear the cops because of the interactions they've witnessed through me. And unfortunately it happened mostly while we were traveling for vacations to other states. (As a result, there are several states/ cities we refuse to travel to now & I will go out of my way to avoid driving through those areas as well. i.e texarkana, OK, etc..)
My son saw through his own experience the differences in treatment between him & his white friends. (He sat shackled in a cell while his white buddies were free, laughing & joking with the cops)
Granted I've had to teach my children without antagonizing the actual good cops. But it became one of my priorities so that these types of incidents can be minimized as much as possible & my children can remain safe from those that are there to "protect & serve".
Stay safe everyone.. Best wishes to all ❤❤
"you don't look like what you've been through" is the hardest hitting kind of compliment I can imagine
I became a felon when I was 22. I was an addict in an abusive relationship. I attempted to steal less 100.00 from walmart. I did 7 months for violating my probation. My mom tries to say that prison is what helped me. I tell her the only reason i am not back is because I had middle class parents who had a home for me to go to (they had to remove all alcohol and any weapons) and who would drive me to work, my meetings, my classes, ect.
I have a friend who moved cities to try and stay clean. She went to a halfway house and had a job but her probation officer decided her job was too far away from her halfway house so she had to quit which meant she couldn't pay rent so she ended up in a shelter where she couldn't be during the day and she couldn't find another job and so she went home up north relapsed and went back.
I have another friend who lives with her grandma in a home without running water on the back roads with no car her probation officer wants her to have a job by the end of the month? How? There are no buses.
They are the lucky ones the rest are dead.
Mind blowing hearing that a probation officer took someones job away from them, someone that the probation officer should be helping. No one should have to overcome addiction on their own, without an ally, let alone overcome it with an enemy
I'm sorry you had to deal with that. The system is set up to be abusive and sadistic.
It's designed by those who love evil and love hurting people, it's not there to help.
How are you doing today??
Punishing people with extreme censure for minor violations including including shoplifting or being late to an appointment is one of these monsters favorite things to do.
Yes shoplifting is a misdemeanor but it will stay on someone's record for up to three years in most municipalities which means it's possible for future employers to discriminate based on that. They shouldn't be able to but I've known people it's happened to. So for some tiny shoplifting nonsense, it can potentially keep you unemployed and broke. So if you want someone to become financially self-sufficient where they won't be tempted to shoplift, is setting them up for unemployment and homelessness really the way to do that? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE??? It's so disgusting. But they always want more feesh meat sacrifices to enter into the prison system. Their dream is to lock up 50% of the population. I believe they're deeply unhappy with their current levels of incarceration, they want extra supermassive incarceration, simple mass incarceration isn't enough for them. These are monsters who are possessed of an evil that we cannot fathom. They are all the devil's payroll.
Now you can see the inherent immorality and stupidity and cruelty of the system. It's shockingly immoral. It's all about cutting people's legs out from under them, then blaming THEM for not being able to walk, then locking them up for as long as possible. They do this in California with disgusting efficiency. Nobody seems willing or able to stop it. It's amazing because evil keeps winning on a large scale and it really is in mindfuck. The satanic demons won't be happy until there's a prison on every corner and everybody that country and their cousin is behind bars.
Shoplifting doesn't hurt stores. I understand that it is an annoyance but it doesn't hurt the stores and no one should have to be punished for it.
Negligible amounts of inventory loss are the cost of doing business and if stores don't like it, they can close. It's that simple. Government has no obligation to protect the stores greed or guarantee their profits. Sure, there's consequences for high-level theft, but petty floor theft shouldn't fact be treated that way. A given business's profits are business owners responsibility, not Uncle Sam. What about that free market they love to claim we should have? The free market includes ebbs and flows, including sales going up and down, customers making choices where they want to shop, and a small amount of leak. Stores owners really are pathetic people because they're so greedy they see every lost dime as an outrage and they want govt to destroy shoplifters as if the shoplifters were professional thieves taking their entire billion-dollar inventory and bank account. It's MADNESS.
Bottom line, shoplifting isn't a crime. It just isn't. The store's can afford to part with this material. it's not going to hurt their overall bottom line in any significant way. It's always less than 1% of their total sales which negligible amount, something they should just get over, accept and move on from. Besides, they'll have loss insurance so for them to get their panties in a bunch over the losses they claim they suffer from shoplifting, just shows them to be the disgusting liars that they are. Stores do not suffer from shoplifting, and that's a fact. So shoplifting should not be criminalized at all, it just kicks people in the mouth who are desperate and trying to survive and that's shameful.
Desperate people shouldn't have their futures thrown in the shitter just cuz they took a few petty items from the store that most likely that the store would have thrown out anyway. Stores waste a mind-boggling amount of inventory, which should be illegal because those things could go towards a needy family in their community. Useful items and food should never be allowed to be legally wasted by choice. There should be steep penalties for this.
And you probably have problems getting your past status expunged right? You know it's all set up this way on purpose right?? They want to get people in the system by any means necessary and they don't ever ever want them to get out. It's all about supermassive incarceration. It's all about mass slavery.
They want to destroy the human spirit that's what it all comes down to. I don't mean to sound extreme but I've had enough people close to me now who have been incredibly harmed by the system and it's not set up to help, it's setup to destroy and keep destroying. I'm not especially religious but I do believe that there's a very dark evil force that motivates these people who control the way the process works.
I try to brainstorm ways to destroy the current system we have because it is a deep evil and it's operating on Satan's agenda. I am working on it. Thru lawsuits, ballot measures and getting better people in office we can start to dismantle this deeply evil system.
@@redpython99 all POs are evil. I speak from experience and the experience of people close to me. They don't want to help you they hate you and they will look for any reason to send you back to prison or jail. They're sadists. The power tripping monsters who are full of hate. It's very sad.
Edit: I know this may sound extreme but this has certainly been the experience of everyone I've ever known, and to a smaller lesser extent myself when I had to do low-level probation four an absolutely outrageous "violation" I was charged with. Don't you see, it's all a scam. it's all about giving sadists an opportunity to shove a boot on your neck while also extorting you for the maximum cash.
It's a really crooked criminal racket.